Season 21 Live Feed Discussion

[Tuxcat]

Honestly I could see Jackson putting up any one of the six...or sam..or nick. I don't see him necessarily sticking with any plan.

[Dmarie019]

If Christie is dumb enough to use it to save jack then I hope cliff puts her up as replacement for Jackson’s regular veto 

[zorak]

Just now, Dmarie019 said:

So could Jackson potentially get his regular veto AND the dpov? And then cliff chooses one replacement and Jackson chooses the other? 

No.  The veto is only used once.  Jackson would be an idiot to not use it on himself and if Christie activates the power, Jackson decides who the replacement nom is.

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, Dmarie019 said:

So could Jackson potentially get his regular veto AND the dpov? And then cliff chooses one replacement and Jackson chooses the other? 

No. Veto is upgraded to DPOV. Jackson would choose his own replacement, who will sit next to Jack for eviction night.

[Tuxcat]

When does Christie actually activate the power? 

[missyb]

Holly explaining to Kat that really, Nick should go up , not Bella. Everyone hates her. Nick is more logical, sensible and Cliff wants to work with Nick. No one will touch Bella. She will self destruct. 

Holly has good points. Nick is more dangerous to her crew than Bella.

[sphoebus31]

Just now, Cutty said:

Hopefully the DR mindfucks Christie into not using it. 

She would be crazy to use it when she's not in danger.  As long as Cliff reassures her she's not going up, she should take advantage of the opportunity to get Jack out.  Then she'll do her manic talkin' damage control and probably come out okay, except for with Jerkson.

[zorak]

Holly seems to think that Kat will be able to get away with voting Bella out and people still won't realize that she's with the 6.

[missyb]

Tommy and Christie will most likely not like Nick going up. They want him in their back pocket for later.

[Dmarie019]

2 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

When does Christie actually activate the power? 

It almost has to be before veto meeting if Jackson needs to know if cliff or himself get to choose the nom. 

[Tuxcat]

2 minutes ago, sphoebus31 said:

She would be crazy to use it when she's not in danger.  As long as Cliff reassures her she's not going up, she should take advantage of the opportunity to get Jack out.  Then she'll do her manic talkin' damage control and probably come out okay, except for with Jerkson.

True but her paranoia is a problem. Even if Cliff tells her she's not in danger he could still put her up.

[zorak]

3 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

When does Christie actually activate the power? 

I think I heard them say it has to be before 11 a.m. on the day of the veto meeting.  But I could be wrong.

[sphoebus31]

1 minute ago, Tuxcat said:

True but her paranoia is a problem. Even if Cliff tells her she's not in danger he could still put her up.

Agreed.  I'm hoping Cliff can manage Christie's 'PMS' then. 

[zorak]

Jackson is talking to the camera telling his momma he did it for her.

[vb68]

Christie really was dumb as hell to tell everyone about the power.

She would have more options with it just keeping it quiet until SHE wanted to use it.

[zorak]

Analyse is asking Jack if Christie is still going to use the power.  Jack says he thinks so because it's the only way they can guarantee that one of the 6 doesn't go up as a replacement.

[eskimo]

So what are the odds that Jack still goes this week, up against Bella or Nick?

[CringeWatcher]

7 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

True but her paranoia is a problem. Even if Cliff tells her she's not in danger he could still put her up.

Can I be honest with you? Christie is *literally* the flakiest person in that house. She will drive herself crazy with the decision, and I’m thinking she will change her mind about 31 times between now and whenever she has to make her final answer. Meanwhile, everyone in that house has ideas on who should be the replacement, and they aren’t really all on the same page. Plus, Christie has *literally* been on the fence about jack for weeks now. I really think it will be Christie having a meltdown from the pressure, and I’ve got popcorn ready for that. Bonus: sad scared bella. So not ideal, but still potential for dramz.

[sphoebus31]

Just now, vb68 said:

Christie really was dumb as hell to tell everyone about the power.

She would have more options with it just keeping it quiet until SHE wanted to use it.

I want to like this post about 100x.  Her mouth is going to be her undoing.   Now she either has to weaken her position by using the power, or make enemies--Jackson at the very least-- in her alliance by not using it.   I think she and Tommy have kept themselves in a decent position so far, but things might start getting stickier now.  As they do.

[Cutty]

ugh. I knew Cliff was going to get fucked by this stupid power the second he won HOH. This is why we can't have nice things.

[me5671]

Sigh. Well, it's official. Big Brother Season 21 was fun for a grand total of nearly two days. Cliff's HOH is now likely to be but a hiccup to their games, as the Shitty Six will likely come out of this unscathed if Christie uses her power. 

On the bright side, Cliff flushed out both of the stupid remaining powers in the game. And at least we will just lose awful Bella, rather than one of the more likeable outsiders. 

It's just frustrating that it appears sam, nick, jess, and Kat refuse to accept that they've been left out of the cool kids alliance. They'd rather desperately grovel at the alliance's feet and play for 7th through 10th place rather than align with Cliff and fight back. 

[zorak]

Bella is talking to Jackson in the target bedroom.  I have a feeling she's going to try to make him not name her as the replacement if Christie activates the power.

[Cutty]

Just now, eskimo said:

So what are the odds that Jack still goes this week, up against Bella or Nick?

Comes down to Kat and Jess. 

Not great, Bob. 

[zorak]

Christie is talking to Tommy.  She says she doesn't want Jack to go home.  She's worried that if Bella goes up, Jack still might go home.

[sphoebus31]

1 minute ago, zorak said:

Christie is talking to Tommy.  She says she doesn't want Jack to go home.  She's worried that if Bella goes up, Jack still might go home.

Let the Christie spin begin:  "It doesn't matter what I do, Jack is still going home, so I might as well keep my power for later."

[zorak]

Just now, sphoebus31 said:

Let the Christie spin begin:  "It doesn't matter what I do, Jack is still going home, so I might as well keep my power for later."

Let's manifest it!

[zorak]

Jackson to Bella:  "Are you and Nick ok?"  He says he can just tell by the look on a couples' faces if things aren't ok.

Jackson just told Bella that if it came down to him, Jack, and Holly in the final 3, he'd vote out Holly.  

[zorak]

I would love for The Universe (or is it the DR?) to give Christie a sign that she needs to save the power for herself.

[missyb]

10 minutes ago, me5671 said:

It's just frustrating that it appears sam, nick, jess, and Kat refuse to accept that they've been left out of the cool kids alliance. They'd rather desperately grovel at the alliance's feet and play for 7th through 10th place rather than align with Cliff and fight back. 

Kat is really in the best position of the house. She has a 3 person alliance with Holly and Jackson. I think it supersedes all the others , even for Jackson.

[sphoebus31]

2 minutes ago, zorak said:

I would love for The Universe (or is it the DR?) to give Christie a sign that she needs to save the power for herself.

If it's true that production is unhappy with Jack, then I'm sure the DR will plant the right seeds in Christie's mind so that she doesn't use it. 

Edited July 21, 2019 by sphoebus31
fat fingers

[Callaphera]

LOL

[zorak]

1 minute ago, Callaphera said:

LOL

I hate Derrick so much but he's probably right!

[Callaphera]

Just now, zorak said:

I hate Derrick so much but he's probably right!

Brett even retweeted it and called it #gold. 

[zorak]

I think Jackson just said that Jack compared Kat to Rainman.

[CringeWatcher]

Hold everything! Is that christie’s bag she just got into downstairs? Is there not a *rule* that have nots must take their crap up to the have not room? What anarchy is this? 

[zorak]

Jackson says he feels like Kat is socially awkward but super smart.

[peachmangosteen]

31 minutes ago, zorak said:

I think I heard them say it has to be before 11 a.m. on the day of the veto meeting.  But I could be wrong.

I heard that as well, but I think I heard it from Nick so who knows.

19 minutes ago, eskimo said:

So what are the odds that Jack still goes this week, up against Bella or Nick?

0%. Kat for sure will just do what Jackson wants and Jessica likely will too tbh.

[missyb]

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#BB21 #BBLF Jackson: Her (Kat) and cliff are probably two of the most underrated players in this game... Cliff is one of the best players in the house.

Another genius heard from.  Kat is suppose to be a secret weapon.  For him and H0lly. Not good to broadcast how good she is !

[Alice Mudgarden]

13 minutes ago, zorak said:

I would love for The Universe (or is it the DR?) to give Christie a sign that she needs to save the power for herself.

"Some of your house mates requested brussel sprouts for dinner next week. What are your thoughts on that?"

[Cutty]

Christie: I am not going to final 6 with couples.

She says her ideal F6 is her, Tommy, Kat, Jess, Nicole, Cliff

[zorak]

Tommy is telling Christie that she's benefitting herself in 2 ways by using the power.  He says she'll be saving an ally who would protect her and she'd be getting someone (Bella) out who is a threat to her.

Edited July 21, 2019 by zorak

[Dmarie019]

23 minutes ago, CringeWatcher said:

Hold everything! Is that christie’s bag she just got into downstairs? Is there not a *rule* that have nots must take their crap up to the have not room? What anarchy is this? 

I don’t think that’s a rule. 

[zorak]

Christie is getting all teary eyed over her agony over whether or not to activate the power.  Shocking I know.

[Callaphera]

2 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

I don’t think that’s a rule. 

It is if Christie and Jack say it is because then they can whine about respect when no one else cares or follows the rule. 

[CringeWatcher]

2 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

I don’t think that’s a rule. 

Haha, I was being facetious. She was bitching about camp comebackers leaving their stuff downstairs, and so aquadouche wanted to make a “rule” that they kept their stuff upstairs. 

[Callaphera]

Just now, zorak said:

Christie is getting all teary eyed over her agony over whether or not to activate the power.  Shocking I know.

Holy shit, I am manifesting that scene from The Shining happening in Christie's uterus SO HARD RIGHT NOW.

[Tuxcat]

Honestly Cliff, put Christie up! She's a crying mess. 

[zorak]

Just now, Tuxcat said:

Honestly Cliff, put Christie up! She's a crying mess. 

He can only put her up if she doesn't activate her power.

[zorak]

Nick, Bella, and Cliff are in the boat room.  They're talking about how Jack seems very confident that he's staying this week.  Bella says they seem to think Christie is going to use the power on them.  Cliff says they'll be ok if Christie doesn't use it.

[Callaphera]

So can we just appreciate that Jack's power also fizzled and died a slow death like a deflating balloon farting around the room before it just collapsed at some poor kid's feet? I mean, he re-drew Veto and didn't need to because one of the noms ended up winning it anyway. So even if he stays, the power got smoked out (ugh, thanks for that one, Christie and Tommy). 

Way to go, BB. Way to go.