Matt and Caryn

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/3/2021 at 12:20 AM, all4mom2 said:

Or he knows what makes for good reality tee-vee. 

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I mean sure, being cruel to the ex wife does get ratings. 

  On 7/3/2021 at 12:20 AM, all4mom2 said:

No one can say Matt isn't savvy! 

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Well, I've often said if you dangle a dollar Matt Roloff will bend over and spread his cheeks. But taking a check for being an intentional ass to the ex wife still makes me think he's not over the ex. 

[Joan of Argh]

  On 7/2/2021 at 11:53 PM, LucyEth said:

If he wanted her he would have stayed with her.  

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Exactly… Matt couldn’t hippity hop out of her house quick enough! 😋

He moved his ass to the DW and never looked back, Amy is like a toxic waste dump of anger… she doesn’t want Chris around Matt because the more time Chris spends with Matt the better he likes him… Matt’s a fun guy who always has interesting projects going on and Chris seems to like that… Amy is a boring old shrew and a sourpuss…. Blech!

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/3/2021 at 3:14 AM, Joan of Argh said:

He moved his ass to the DW and never looked back,

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Except you know, for spending years prying Amy off the property and then building a new house because the old one was "ruined" by Amy.

And you know, trying to be best friends with the ex's new boyfriend, and banging the ex's supposed friend and continuing to employ the friend who he dates so he can force the ex and the new girlfriend to interact. And when he's finally rid of the ex by buying out her interest in the property, he then invites her to use the property for an event that he knows will be fussy and full of details and will infringe on his own use of the land until its over. 

Honestly if Amy is obsessed with Matt because she talks about the farm, then Matt is surely as obsessed because he's had AMPLE opportunity to excise her from his life and doesn't. Seems like he can't let go. 

 

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/3/2021 at 4:11 AM, Dustbunny said:

Exactly Joan, Matt's finally free to enjoy his projects without a sour seahag shitting on every idea.

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Yet he keeps inviting ye olde sour seahag back into his life. ;)

[Joan of Argh]

  On 7/3/2021 at 4:11 AM, Dustbunny said:

Exactly Joan, Matt's finally free to enjoy his projects without a sour seahag shitting on every idea.

 

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Poor Sea Hag being compared to Amy! 😂

Matt’s enjoying doing whatever the hell he wants and spending whatever he wants and he doesn’t have to listen to Amy flap her gums…. She’s Chris’s nightmare now. 

 

[floridamom]

I think a lot of this animosity between Amy and Matt is scripted for the show. If this didn't exist, how interesting would this program continue to be? Not very, IMO. Viewers watch partly for the drama. All this fuss about finding a wedding venue??? Since Amy is so religious, why not get married in a church and rent the church hall for their reception? Done and done. No drama involved..no searching on camera, no Matt involved. Like I said,....all for the show.

[Spazamanaz]

  On 7/3/2021 at 11:54 AM, floridamom said:

I think a lot of this animosity between Amy and Matt is scripted for the show. If this didn't exist, how interesting would this program continue to be? Not very, IMO. Viewers watch partly for the drama. All this fuss about finding a wedding venue??? Since Amy is so religious, why not get married in a church and rent the church hall for their reception? Done and done. No drama involved..no searching on camera, no Matt involved. Like I said,....all for the show.

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I agree with this. Although I do think that Amy has a lot of animosity towards Matt, I don't think that is a put on for the show. 

[Jenny8]

  On 7/3/2021 at 12:29 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

But taking a check for being an intentional ass to the ex wife still makes me think he's not over the ex. 

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Or maybe it's just a little payback for all the years the ex was an ass to him?

Edited July 3, 2021 by Jenny8

[EllaWycliffe]

Maybe.. but if its payback then he's certainly not completely over his ex, now is he?

[floridamom]

I'm sure Amy isn't completely over what happened with Matt and does have hard feelings/animosity/betrayal issues and jealousy with Caryn. I think it's hyped up a bit for the show.

[all4mom2]

  On 7/3/2021 at 5:50 PM, EllaWycliffe said:

Maybe.. but if its payback then he's certainly not completely over his ex, now is he?

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Yes, he is.  If he weren't, he would be happy in another relationship.  See: Amy.

[EllaWycliffe]

Disagree. Someone completely over his ex wife wouldn't need, desire, or engage in payback.

[stoppro]

fuck matt and the horse he rode in on

[all4mom2]

  On 7/3/2021 at 7:59 PM, EllaWycliffe said:

Disagree. Someone completely over his ex wife wouldn't need, desire, or engage in payback.

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He would if it increased ratings or got them another season; show Matt (or Amy) a dollar!

[EllaWycliffe]

Yeah, I think Matt has Amy taking up a lot of headspace in his head. Too many comments and actions indicate he's never letting go of his anger and annoyance.

Mind you, I'd love to see Matt do the show without Amy and without being allowed to mention Amy. I don't think he could do it.

[SunnyBeBe]

I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the storyline for the show is if Matt will ruin the ceremony with his building. Recall, it was a big topic?  I’m not too worried.  

[ginger90]

2 pictures, 2 videos:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRIdJmDHPZf/?hl=en

[Jeanne222]

  On 7/10/2021 at 10:09 PM, ginger90 said:

2 pictures, 2 videos:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRIdJmDHPZf/?hl=en

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Matt's living his best life!  I bet he's so happy to be free!

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/11/2021 at 1:06 AM, Jeanne222 said:

Matt's living his best life!  I bet he's so happy to be free!

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Yet he was discussing Amy in the video on the atv.... Sure seems hung up on the ex

[LucyEth]

 I saw Zach and Jeremy.  No Audrey or Tori.  

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/11/2021 at 1:33 AM, LucyEth said:

 I saw Zach and Jeremy.  No Audrey or Tori.  

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I was honestly surprised to see Zach and Jeremy. 

[LucyEth]

  On 7/11/2021 at 1:28 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

Yet he was discussing Amy in the video on the atv.... Sure seems hung up on the ex

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I think people want to hear him mention Amy's wedding.  A few people were commenting on both his "lives" on instagram about Amy's request not to build.  

[all4mom2]

  On 7/11/2021 at 1:35 PM, LucyEth said:

I think people want to hear him mention Amy's wedding.  A few people were commenting on both his "lives" on instagram about Amy's request not to build.  

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Yes; I got the impression that whoever was filming asked him about it.  If he's faking his happiness with his life now, he's quite the actor!

Good to see Jer and Zach together again. 

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/11/2021 at 1:35 PM, LucyEth said:

I think people want to hear him mention Amy's wedding.  A few people were commenting on both his "lives" on instagram about Amy's request not to build

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Yet even though people do mention Matt on Amy's little talks, this is NOT a factor and Amy is deemed to be NOT OVER her ex. That's what I am not getting here. Matt talks about Amy all the time, usually in a snide negative fashion as he did in this video, and people insist "he's totally over her, he's HAPPY and glad she's gone and NEVER thinks of her" but when Amy does the same thing. she's a bitter bitch obsessed with her ex.

For the record, I don't think he's faking being happy - he was always happy when he was being an asshole picking on members of his family and getting his way. 

[all4mom2]

I think it's patently obvious that Amy isn't over her ex while Matt is.  Of course we're all entitled to our opinions.

[EllaWycliffe]

I think its patently obvious that Matt and Amy both have a lot of issues with each other and haven't let things go at all. Matt shows it by ragging on Amy in his little videos and by constantly inviting her into his life despite the divorce.  Matt gets all these kudos for being a big money maker while Amy is supposedly counting every penny... but he's the one offering up his precious farm for Amy's pleasure... and for TLC dollars. There's a disconnect here, because if we believe the "Every deal Matt makes is a huge money maker" silliness (I call it silly because his "big money making deals" are usually pie in the sky things or not actually money making deals - the "furniture deal" that appears to really be "Matt bought some custom chairs for himself") then Matt really shouldn't *need* to bend over and take it in the ass for TLC money, and yet there he is, letting Amy use the farm "for free". You do understand that while he's lauded for being so generous, he's actually getting a big check right?

But at the end of the day, if Matt wanted to be free of Amy, he could be. He owns the property so he can lock the gate and never let her on the property again. By his own bragging, and his fans bragging, his deals supposedly make big money so he shouldn't *need* to spread his cheeks and take it in the ass for TLC dollars and yet he allows the torture of constant Amy contact. For someone who would be happy to live his best life, he really can't seem to let Amy go. He doesn't need the show, he doesn't need the money, so why is Amy  constantly a factor in his life?

[winsomeone]

" so why is Amy  constantly a factor in his life?"  Maybe because they have four children together and will for that reason always be a part of each other's lives whether they wish it or not?

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/11/2021 at 4:24 PM, winsomeone said:

Maybe because they have four children together and will for that reason always be a part of each other's lives whether they wish it or not?

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Yet this is not a factor when Amy is discussed. Amy is always obsessed and not over her man, and that she's got four kids with him and will for that reason always be a part of each other's lives whether she wishes it or not is NOT an excuse - she is deemed obsessed and not over her ex. Matt gets excused even when he's rather negative and cutting as in this recent video but Amy? Clearly not over her marriage. That she has children with him is not an excuse. That fans ask about Matt is not an excuse. But with Matt its absolutely an excuse. All the factors that people cite Amy for being obsessed with her ex are excused when Matt's exhibiting the behaviors. 

Personally? I don't find it unusual that Matt, like Amy, is hung up a bit on his ex. I just find it odd that the same behaviors from Amy = obsessed and not over it while Matt is cited as completely over it and so so happy!

I'd also respectfully point out that walking away from 25 years of marriage and four kids with a grin on your face and a "I'm perfectly happy!" is a really odd emotional reaction. 

[all4mom2]

Regardless of how often who mentions whom and in what context or for what reason, the vibe Matt gives off is happy and a bit bemused whereas the vibe Amy gives off is angry and bitter.  The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference...

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/11/2021 at 5:03 PM, all4mom2 said:

Regardless of how often who mentions whom and in what context or for what reason,

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Actually these things do matter. 

 

  On 7/11/2021 at 5:03 PM, all4mom2 said:

The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference...

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Matt isn't indifferent, thats the problem. Someone who was indifferent wouldn't be inviting the ex to use his property and then making snarky comments to the public about it. 

[LucyEth]

What was snarky?  I heard him say, the house would be finished by the wedding date in one video and then in the other he said he put in something to make it prettier for the wedding.  Did I miss something?

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[EllaWycliffe]

Maybe. At about 3:42 in the one where he's on the atv filming, he's snickering how he promised to Chris and Amy to have the building "lets just say not under construction" for the the wedding, with laughter. Then he notes that there's always unforeseen situations that cause problems, that covid was interrupting the supply chain, and that they might need a miracle, all with chuckling. 

Now, again, I think Amy was foolish to accept the farm offer, but Matt saying building wouldn't start until after the wedding and then starting building 7 weeks prior and tee heeing how it might take a miracle is a wee bit snarky. 

[LucyEth]

Eh, not a big deal IMO

[Irate Panda]

  On 7/11/2021 at 5:03 PM, all4mom2 said:

Regardless of how often who mentions whom and in what context or for what reason, the vibe Matt gives off is happy and a bit bemused whereas the vibe Amy gives off is angry and bitter.  The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference...

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I think you are right it is the vibe that makes the difference.  I think Matt is happy with his life and has been for a while.  I think he really really stopped caring what Amy did after she left the farm. The only thing I think he cares about in regards to Amy is the part she plays in keeping the show on the air and the fact they do have kids together so they all have to be somewhat cordial.  Matt cares about the money.  Well, they all do, but I think he thinks the most about how to keep the show running.  Generally this season, when he’s asked a question about Amy or Amy and Chris, he laughs it off or deflects in a somewhat bemused way or even a “it isn’t my problem anymore” way.  I really don’t think he gives a damn because he still has the show, the farm, Caryn, the kids, and grandkids.  

I think the reason Amy comes off as bitter and angry is because she thinks he had an affair.  It doesn’t matter whether he actually did or not (as it relates to this post) because it is what she believes. No one will ever change her mind and I think it frustrates her even more because I believe she wanted Matt to universally be deemed the “bad one”, but he never was.  Additionally, she was never really propped up as the “wronged one”, well maybe by Lisa. Then we throw in “the longtime girlfriend” is seemingly embraced by the whole family including the grandkids. She doesn’t understand why Matt gets to be “happy”.  He’s happy because he doesn’t give a fuck, he’s out there getting his picture taken at Grandpa’s log cabin and trying to figure out how to get up the stairs at Caryn’s to get laid.  I’m not saying he was neve angry, but it came across more as frustration.  While Amy came off as wanting to tackle Matt every time she walked into the DW.  
 

                                                                                  

[all4mom2]

"Fustrated."

[Irate Panda]

  On 7/11/2021 at 8:32 PM, LucyEth said:

What was snarky?  I heard him say, the house would be finished by the wedding date in one video and then in the other he said he put in something to make it prettier for the wedding.  Did I miss something?

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I didn’t watch the video(IG not working for me) but read somewhere he was building a pole barn garage, if that’s what he’s building those usually take about 2 weeks.  If he’s building something else In the video I have no idea.

[ginger90]

  On 7/11/2021 at 10:09 PM, Irate Panda said:

I didn’t watch the video(IG not working for me) but read somewhere he was building a pole barn garage, if that’s what he’s building those usually take about 2 weeks.  If he’s building something else In the video I have no idea.

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The garage that’s being built now is the garage for the house. They are using wood that’s being milled on-site and elsewhere.

Also, he put in a berm to essentially block the view of it from where the wedding will be held.

 

[EllaWycliffe]

Interesting post about Matt over on redditt - in a thread titled "anyone know this family before they were famous?"

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Okay I was just showing my wife this thread and she reminded me our neighbor owns a liquor store that Matt Roloff used to frequent back in his drunken hay day when the show was just getting started. Guess he’d been going there for years but as his celebrity grew he’d become more and more obnoxious and rude and sometimes would come in drunk. Apparently they used to call him “Little Hollywood” when he was being too obnoxious. He didn’t like this and would threaten to “knock yer (F word) teeth out” with his crutch. 

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I mean, they aren't claiming to be a stripper so it may not be holy writ ;)

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[all4mom2]

In other news...I love the handprint idea!  Wonder if he'll mix up some new cement for the new one(s) later?  Maybe in the foundation for the house...

[Joan of Argh]

  On 7/12/2021 at 3:22 AM, all4mom2 said:

In other news...I love the handprint idea!  Wonder if he'll mix up some new cement for the new one(s) later?  Maybe in the foundation for the house...

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Maybe Amy will come over in her low cut costume and memorialize those jugs in cement…
They put the “PUMPKIN” in Matt’s punkin season! 😋

[LucyEth]

  On 7/12/2021 at 5:51 AM, Joan of Argh said:

Maybe Amy will come over in her low cut costume and memorialize those jugs in cement…
They put the “PUMPKIN” in Matt’s punkin season! 😋

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You crack me up!  Did you hear her man tell her she was the heart of pumpkin season in last weeks episode?   Yeah and apparently the boobs too!

[Teriacky]

Little People Big Boobs.. 

[EllaWycliffe]

Responding here instead of the Amy thread since its about Matt

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Of course Matt wants the wedding on the farm...and the TLC money...and the ratings...and for the show to succeed and continue...  That's Jackson's legacy!

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I wonder how the other grandkids will feel about Granpa Matt as they get older and realize Jackson has a legacy and they are no where near as special to Matt. 

[all4mom2]

  On 7/13/2021 at 12:42 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

Responding here instead of the Amy thread since its about Matt

I wonder how the other grandkids will feel about Granpa Matt as they get older and realize Jackson has a legacy and they are no where near as special to Matt. 

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With the exception of Lila, they're not "Little People," so they wouldn't inherit "Big World."

[LucyEth]

  On 7/13/2021 at 12:42 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

Responding here instead of the Amy thread since its about Matt

I wonder how the other grandkids will feel about Granpa Matt as they get older and realize Jackson has a legacy and they are no where near as special to Matt. 

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So far it is just Ember and Bode and I think those kids are much closer to Audrey's family than Matt, Amy and co.  Tons of pictures with her parents and siblings on Instagram.  They attended Ember's dance recital and Ember ran out to hug Audrey's mom.  No Roloffs in sight.

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/13/2021 at 12:51 AM, all4mom2 said:

With the exception of Lila, they're not "Little People," so they wouldn't inherit "Big World."

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Which may be true but isn't a nice message - "Granddad loves the kids who will continue the show and earning Granddad big bucks more and thats why Jackson gets special things you don't from Granddad".

  On 7/13/2021 at 12:55 AM, LucyEth said:

So far it is just Ember and Bode and I think those kids are much closer to Audrey's family than Matt, Amy and co.  Tons of pictures with her parents and siblings on Instagram.  They attended Ember's dance recital and Ember ran out to hug Audrey's mom.  No Roloffs in sight.

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Hmmm Audrey is currently pregnant and while I do applaud Molly and Jacob not rushing into having kids, they probably will at some point and honestly I can see Audrey not being so cool about days on the farm when the kids are old enough to understand that they're the lesser grandkids and Granddad Matt loves Jackson best.

I also wonder what will happen when Caryn has her own actual grandkids. No one likes seeing their kids put to the bottom of the pile. 

 

[LucyEth]

I think at this time losing the option to purchase the farm is still not sitting well with Audrey and Jeremy.  I sincerely believe they don't give a crap anymore about their standing with the Roloffs.  Time will tell, but I doubt I will care!

[Irate Panda]

I thought Matt was included in Jeremy’s “former” family.  Seriously though,  Matt and Amy didn’t seem to care about showing favoritism with their own kids, so I doubt they care about it with their grandkids unfortunately.

[babyhouseman]

  On 7/12/2021 at 2:55 AM, EllaWycliffe said:

He didn’t like this and would threaten to “knock yer (F word) teeth out” with his crutch. 

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Little gangsta Matt using his crutch as a weapon is funny. 

  On 7/13/2021 at 12:55 AM, LucyEth said:

So far it is just Ember and Bode and I think those kids are much closer to Audrey's family than Matt, Amy and co.

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I've noticed when a couple marries and has kids, the daughter's family gets more visits. I know this is not always the case. Knowing these people, there are probably bad feeling somewhere. 

[EllaWycliffe]

  On 7/13/2021 at 1:25 AM, Irate Panda said:

I thought Matt was included in Jeremy’s “former” family.  Seriously though,  Matt and Amy didn’t seem to care about showing favoritism with their own kids, so I doubt they care about it with their grandkids unfortunately.

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Its unfortunate to see the pattern repeat itself. Let's not forget that Matt's little golden boy didn't turn out so well.