All In With Chris Hayes - General Discussion

[AntiBeeSpray]

7 hours ago, jjj said:

When  did Chris start announcing the length of the commercial breaks?  I just noticed this Monday and today (20th and 21st), and it makes me crazy.  "We're taking a break for two minutes."  "We will be right back in 60 seconds."  It actually makes me nervous, like I am on a time clock.  I am not hearing this on the other evening shows. 

At least there's a mention. I swear the breaks seem longer than that with a lot of shows these days.

[attica]

He's been doing that for a few months now. I suspect that kind of tease encourages viewers to hang out and watch the commercials.

[AntiBeeSpray]

6 hours ago, attica said:

He's been doing that for a few months now. I suspect that kind of tease encourages viewers to hang out and watch the commercials.

Probably. But there's always the mute button ;).

[NextIteration]

I appreciate it because I tend to watch "live" teevee on a bit of a delay so I can ff through commercials.  His time indications warn me, heh.

[shok]

The media is making me sick these days, literally ill, with their obsession with Trump and everything he says and does. Are they really so clueless that they don't comprehend what they're doing to the country with their incredibly biased constant coverage of Trump? And even boyfriend Chris Hayes is as complicit as the rest of MSNBC. Tonight he breathlessly led off his show with "an international press conference devolves into a global therapy session on Trump!!!!!!!!!"

No, Chris, that's not how it went down and it was the media that took it down. Jeebuz Murphy, the three government leaders had all talked for some time about climate change, immigration, trade, terrorism - you know, stuff that really matters? - and outlined their policies and the steps that they had agreed to take pertaining those issues. The media steps up to ask questions and did they ask one thing about those critical matters? No, they immediately start asking about Trump, as if it matters a goddamn whit what garbage Trump has spouted about whatever he lies about. I hold the media 100% responsible for what they have unleashed on the country, and the world, by not treating Trump as the con man scam artist he is.

[M. Darcy]

Wow, that guy from the Trump campaign.  First of all, waterboarding is torture.  That's not even a question. And, so then he keeps saying "I totally disagree with his stance on torture but yes, I think he is the best person to be President." 

[attica]

Geez, everybody knows Hillary is worse than torture....[/eyeroll]

[represent]

LOL, oh Hayes, I love ya.

You, Rachel Maddow and your video tape.

Never lies.

Go Foxwood Resort Casinos.  My dad and his brother like to visit from time to time.  

[stormy]

There should be more Chris Hayes on MSNBC.

After spending 30 unfortunate minutes with Chris Matthews and his never ending talking over his guests (what's the point? Don't have any on then you can look into the camera and talk nonstop), Chris comes on.

He's a breath of fresh air on this stuffy boring network everyday.

[jjj]

I had watched the Obama/Clinton first joint appearance and enjoyed it -- but enjoyed Chris Hayes' reporting on it even more on Monday evening.  It seemed even more energetic the way he presented it.

Tonight he really is asking Senator Sanders the hard questions of "she has more votes, and you both will never agree on all policy points, so at what point do you acknowledge this?" and got a grudging admission from Sanders that an endorsement is on the way, which is the closest I have heard him come to saying he will endorse her, instead of his usual dodging the question with "we are going to Philadelphia to carry our agenda forward."

And I do love his "bottom ten" list of Trump's worst hits, with the updates.  Number one (=bottom of the bottom): "Praising Saddam Hussain"

[shok]

6 hours ago, jjj said:

Tonight he really is asking Senator Sanders the hard questions of "she has more votes, and you both will never agree on all policy points, so at what point do you acknowledge this?" and got a grudging admission from Sanders that an endorsement is on the way, which is the closest I have heard him come to saying he will endorse her, instead of his usual dodging the question with "we are going to Philadelphia to carry our agenda forward."

I wish just for once when Bernie is prattling on about how he will do everything in his power to stop Donald Trump that Chris would pipe in and say "How?". He hasn't done a damn thing yet and he certainly has never told anyone what he intends to do because he's always too busy blathering on about his own ambitions.

Edited July 7, 2016 by shok

[jjj]

I had a feeling Chris would be in Dallas by today, and indeed he is -- he is doing a great job leaving space for the residents and officials of Dallas to speak (no talking over them, like other on-air personalities), and he also provides such a great balance of the shock of the events in Dallas, Baton Rouge, and St. Paul, with the need for thoughtful reporting. 

[netlyon2]

I hate that these tragedies are happening, but I generally feel a bit better when it's Chris who's covering them, especially on the ground.  He seems to genuinely care for and respect the people he interviews, shown in things like extending his condolences to the rapid transit chief and expressing his relief that Mark Hughes is okay.  He and Trymaine Lee are MSNBC's best on location team, I think.

Edited July 9, 2016 by netlyon2

[Padma]

So glad to find this thread with  others who think Chris Hayes is great! Couldn't agree more with the posts about him covering Dallas. He was wonderful with Mark Hughes--and Hughes' very articulate brother. He somehow combines being respectful and compassionate with asking good, often probing or uncomfortable questions, but from a place of sincerity, because they're things that people will benefit from knowing and thinking about.  And not a trace of smugness (unlike BriWms & LOD) and never rude to his guests (like Chris Matthews is nearly all of the time). After a day of looking for good coverage on ANY channel, it was wonderful to find Chris on tonight.

I know his show doesn't get the ratings others do, so  kudos to MSNBC for keeping him on-air. Hopefully that will never change.

[jjj]

40 minutes ago, Padma said:

So glad to find this thread with  others who think Chris Hayes is great! Couldn't agree more with the posts about him covering Dallas. He was wonderful with Mark Hughes--and Hughes' very articulate brother. He somehow combines being respectful and compassionate with asking good, often probing or uncomfortable questions, but from a place of sincerity, because they're things that people will benefit from knowing and thinking about.  And not a trace of smugness (unlike BriWms & LOD) and never rude to his guests (like Chris Matthews is nearly all of the time). After a day of looking for good coverage on ANY channel, it was wonderful to find Chris on tonight.

I know his show doesn't get the ratings others do, so  kudos to MSNBC for keeping him on-air. Hopefully that will never change.

"Sincerity" is the perfect word for Chris -- he combines that with a humane approach that still does not get in the way of his ability to be the reporter rather than the empathizer or moralizer.  I think he has a natural skill for the balance this requires. 

Edited July 9, 2016 by jjj

[NextIteration]

13 hours ago, netlyon2 said:

I hate that these tragedies are happening, but I generally feel a bit better when it's Chris who's covering them, especially on the ground.  He seems to genuinely care for and respect the people he interviews, shown in things like extending his condolences to the rapid transit chief and expressing his relief that Mark Hughes is okay.  He and Trymaine Lee are MSNBC's best on location team, I think.

Along with Craig Melvin.

[NextIteration]

I'm a little bit bothered (putting it in this tread should maybe be in the MSNBC thread) that they have a few of their big names in Dallas and sent nobody here to the Twin Cities and didn't keep people in Baton Rouge and here.  I think Trymaine was in Baton Rouge earlier in the week.  

[M. Darcy]

I think I'm in love.  I love anyone who throws shade at Rudy G but that ex NY Cop took it to an entire other level. I think Heather appreciated it also - she did have a smile on her face and Chris's expressions were hysterical.

[nowandlater]

Chris Hayes had Jelani Cobb and this cop guy on.

The cop guy, of course, had a lot of complaints about what Obama didn't say. But correct me if I'm wrong -- didn't Obama say much of what the cop dude claimed he didn't say?

[Rhetorica]

9 minutes ago, nowandlater said:

Chris Hayes had Jelani Cobb and this cop guy on.

The cop guy, of course, had a lot of complaints about what Obama didn't say. But correct me if I'm wrong -- didn't Obama say much of what the cop dude claimed he didn't say?

He did. But cop dude wouldn't, couldn't, or didn't hear it. He wouldn't even listen to Chris. I think Chris just gave up on him. Wasn't this the same cop dude on last night?  

[kassygreene]

Yep.  And last night he did a glorious take-down of Rudy G.  But tonight he indeed didn't listen - to Obama or anyone else.

[represent]

54 minutes ago, kassygreene said:

Yep.  And last night he did a glorious take-down of Rudy G.  But tonight he indeed didn't listen - to Obama or anyone else.

I think the cop was conveying how not only he understood, but how the rest of the cops understood Obama's speech for the most part. And I got that overall, they thought he was talking down to them/chastising them.

I did agree with him when he said about twice that Obama is damned no matter what he does/says, he can't win.

I also heard when he said that to the cops, blue collar guys/gals, all they see when they look at Obama is someone who is elite, something to that effect. I've heard this criticism before, that he comes off as if he's chastising, looking down on... 

He cannot win, he's too elite, not blue collar enough, too uppity, not black enough for some in the black community, it doesn't matter. 

He . Can. Not. Win.

On the other hand, when I heard reporters previewing what he might say in the speech, I knew it wouldn't go down too well with the cops. For this day, they only wanted him to focus on them and their sacrifices and to be spoken of in a positive light. Not that he didn't, but there was also criticism. And yes it was of ALL of us he was criticizing including himself, no one was exempt. But on this day, they just didn't want to hear what they needed to do, to be better.  

He tried to weave in how we got to this point and tie it in with not letting the death of the five officers be in vain. So if we all continue to work toward unity by admitting our handicaps, progress will continue like it has been there in Dallas and their deaths wouldn't be in vein. I saw how he tried to weave that together, but their wounds were way too fresh to receive that message. Because based on what I've heard about the Dallas police department, under any other circumstances they would be open. They seem to be making effective changes. But not today, they couldn't take it. 

This is me, trying to put myself in their shoes.

[M. Darcy]

Yeah, my love for the cop has dimmed a bit. 

[attica]

I was very happy to see Irin Carmon on defending RBG. I feel like some of the criticisms of her comments comes from a 'woman should shut up' place rather than a 'scotus should shut up' one, since the only blowback Scalia ever got was brushed away with 'Scalia's gonna Scalia' dismissals. And I like the phrase 'incandescently angry.'

[NextIteration]

I cannot with the remarks about RBG with the memory of justices not showing up for the SOTU, which is an obvious political statement, or Scalia duck hunting with Cheney whilst he was under investigation.

I'm saddened that RBG was forced to write an apology this morning. tRump is an  existential threat to mankind.

Edited July 14, 2016 by NextIteration

[NextIteration]

2 hours ago, NextIteration said:

Double post, can't get rid of quote.

Edited July 14, 2016 by NextIteration
Double post.

[represent]

5 hours ago, NextIteration said:

I cannot with the remarks about RBG with the memory of justices not showing up for the SOTU, which is an obvious political statement, or Scalia duck hunting with Cheney whilst he was under investigation.

I'm saddened that RBG was forced to write an apology this morning. tRump is an  existential threat to mankind.

What stands out for me the most is her model example of actually giving an apology.

That's what reporters should focus on since it's something that I've never seen Trump do.  He's actually gone out of his way to say that he won't apologize. 

That aside, when I heard what she said, I was like WTH? There was a time in this country when most of the general public would have had no idea what the voice of a Supreme Court judge even sounded like.  There was a time when I don't remember them giving interviews, you'd be lucky to remember what they looked like, let's get back to that. We know they have their own personal politics but it should never be front and center as they need to appear impartial. 

I know the world feels like it's coming to an end but...LOL

Edited July 14, 2016 by represent

[Rhetorica]

This wasn't on All In. Chris had a panel before the opening of the GOP convention. I couldn't believe what I heard and had to look it up. SMH.....

 

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/19/rep_steve_king_defends_rncs_lack_of_diversity_where_did_any_other_subgroup_of_people_contribute_more_to_civilization/

[Sharpie66]

It sounds like All In will be on at 6:00 eastern time prior to the official team coverage at 7.

[Rhetorica]

I was glad that Chris was the one to announce the Dem VP. His colleagues seem to respect him. 

[stormy]

I can't miss this show.  Chris is the best show host on this network.

Tonight's "baby montage" with the ultimate Trump rant ending was the best thing I saw all day.  Or maybe this week.

[attica]

I have been brooding about the lack of updates on the Fantasy Draft, and now we have a winner! I'm so delighted; I loved that bit from start to finish in a way that still surprises me.

[stormy]

A couple of days ago, Rick Wilson was on the set with Chris to discuss the new republican candidate for president.

I know Chris likes Rick, but I found it pretty funny that he seemed to have had to suppress laughing in his face.

[attica]

Excellent segment on the DOJ scourging of the Baltimore PD. And not for nothing, Trymaine Lee's new facial hair configuration is verrrry attractive. Which surprises me, but there you go.

[Lexx]

"Yes, we're live at 11.  Why?  I don't know!"

At least Chris is honest about this bizarre 11 p.m. special edition.

[Sharpie66]

Does anyone know if the video from the 11:00 broadcast is available on the MSNBC website? I watched the 8:00 broadcast on dvr-delay long after the 11:00 one was over and done with, so I couldn't record it.

[AntiBeeSpray]

It's not up yet. They're up to the 10th.

[car54]

I wonder how he got those great guests to come on that late--Chris is a little high energy for bedtime --I usually do his show--and Rachel is a little less high energy--then Laurence is usually calmer so I can kind of wind down, but I happened to be up late and I thought the 11 pm show was better than his regular slot last night.

[Lexx]

2 hours ago, car54 said:

I wonder how he got those great guests to come on that late--Chris is a little high energy for bedtime --I usually do his show--and Rachel is a little less high energy--then Laurence is usually calmer so I can kind of wind down, but I happened to be up late and I thought the 11 pm show was better than his regular slot last night.

It reminded me of how "Up with Chris Hayes" was run.  Have a panel spend multiple segments going in-depth on a topic.  The 8 p.m. show is much more conventional in how it structures its' segments.

[represent]

These people are insane. If you want my black vote then Mitch McConnell and the leaders of the republican party with Trump at the front can start by making a public apology to Obama for the Birther Movement.  Otherwise, I'll never vote republican again, and I have voted that way twice in my life time.  They refuse to get how offensive that movement was to black folks, they don't get it.  Do they really not get that?  I'll never forget it.  I want humility something that not only Trump lacks. They'd like to act like they are better than him on this front, nope, they're not. You say it was wrong, you say it was disgraceful, you say it was bigotry, end of story. They can go to the black church all they want, they won't find me there. I was raised Roman Catholic. I didn't grow up in the black church so Omarosa and her band of sleazy pastors can go preach it elsewhere.   She's another one who makes me want to hurl, she and Pastor Devil Darrell Scott.

When you get invited to speak by the NAACP, go, they won't bite. They have manners, maybe they won't clap, but they won't be allowed to boo either. You're not going to some rally of unruly people. Hell go to the smaller events like the organizations for black business owners, business? That's supposed to be right up their alley, but they don't have the courage to at least show up for something like that. 

Yeah, Hillary is weak, right. She took her ass down to West Virginia just so they could look her in the face and tell her ass off and that's exactly what they did. She sat there and took it. While the rest of the people stood outside with pitch forks. 

Bye, just bye republican party, cowards.

Edited August 19, 2016 by represent

[attica]

Joy is so good as a substitute in prime time. Such good, cheerful energy, but not in a perky/dumb way. Her weekend show has been bigfooted by five-rings coverage lately. Here's my idea: if they want something live for the 11 pm hour, instead of having Chris work both, why not give that slot to Joy? More Joy, is my point. Yeah, it's probably a temp thing until the elections, but still: More Joy!

[car54]

Attica, Brian Williams is taking over 11 pm from Labor Day through the elections--I think they're just rotating other people in to fill the slot until he starts.

I've heard Matthews might be retiring after Nov--so I'm hoping Joy takes his place--I enjoy her a lot too.  She's done an excellent job on All In and she's a good lead in for Rachel.

[attica]

I laughed out loud at Jeilani Cobb's 'OMG, Chris!' response at CH's 'Guiliani Cobb' malapropism.

[attica]

Really good segment with Heather McGhee. (I have kind of a girl crush on her anyway.) I will say if it were me in her chair on CSPAN, my first response might have been more in the lines of 'yeah, dude, not my job to fix your racism for you.' But she's a better person than I am, clearly.

[stormy]

Can we now have seen the last of Katie Packer?  She is insufferable.

Earlier in the week, she was on with Lawrence O'Donnell and I had to hit mute.  She's pathetic.

[attica]

Something positive to be said about this election cycle is that it's freed up tv newspeople to openly deride talking heads who spout arrant nonsense like Packer did here. Chris and Rick's snorting was actual balm to me.

[stormy]

LOL!

[NextIteration]

On 8/19/2016 at 6:58 PM, car54 said:

Attica, Brian Williams is taking over 11 pm from Labor Day through the elections--I think they're just rotating other people in to fill the slot until he starts.

Well that's bad news. :(

Is it terrible for me to want Matthews not retire?  On second thought, I'm not sure I want to hear him spitting out criticisms of the Clinton Administration v2.0.

I guffawed at Chris' "Katie Packer, Katie Packer" last night - she wasn't stupid rabid GOP up until Real Time and this last week on MSNBC, I thought maybe she was a reasonable Republican, whoops, my bad.

Also, @Lexx I agree that the late night live version reminded me of "Up" a show that Kornacki ruined and I miss so much, which in turn made miss MHP, though I've come to appreciate A.M. Joy as well.

Edited August 27, 2016 by NextIteration

[attica]

I finally watched the 11 pm (ET) verzh of All In, and boy, youse guys are right. So much fun, so reminiscent of his old Up days.

Plus, Eric Boehlert is foxy.

[M. Darcy]

I'll miss the 11 pm repeat when BW gets his own show...but maybe they will just show it at 11:30 instead.

I can't decide which is more annoying - what that AJ woman says or her voice as she says it.