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hey're deviating more from the book this season

Is it possible to deviate more? ;)

 

They should just say it's "inspired by a book by Stephen King" and stop pretending.

 

Anyhow, speculations: I predict there's going to be a love triangle of some sorts between Julia, Barbie and a third wheel.Because a dead husband wasn't enough. (Unless he returns in all zombiefied Dome glory)

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I'm calling it now: Phil is the one who killed Angie.

 

I don't know why, it just feels like the kind of stupid plot twist that suits this show.

 

Well I guess he's the next to go or Forehead's mom, they're the expendable ones.

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Okay, Sam and Junior/James' mom are sibs, but couldn't Drownsie be a sister no one has spoken of since she drowned? (Total speculation since I refuse to read "spoilers" for this show because I don't want the equivalent of brain freeze as I read them.) No one talks about anyone that's alive, much less dead folks, except to bad-mouth them.

 

So Drownsie, a dead sibling and why she's in the Verdeaux Book of Crazy, is now the reanimated mouthpiece for the Dome. The Aaron to it's Moses?  Will it cause conflict with Monarch Julia who feels she knows the Dome better? Or will Monarch Julia just blindly believe any damn thing out of Drownsie's mouth and protect her against all naysayers, but especially Ms. Pine who is just a lowly high school science teacher.  ::rme:: 

 

As for Phil or Norrie's mom, I'm guessing that they'll be okay for now. When we hit halfway, though, one or both may be in danger. I'm thinking Phil may be done for sooner, not hearing from Big Jim or anyone, that the Dome wants the killing to stop.

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I wonder who Junior is going to obsess over now -- and who will be the new 4th hand that the dome needs ?

 

On the other hand, now that Angie is dead this will give Junior the opportunity 

 

to have sex with her corpse -- which occurred in the book.  In the book Junior had two dead 'girlfriends' who he had relations with.

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I wonder who Junior is going to obsess over now -- and who will be the new 4th hand that the dome needs ?

 

On the other hand, now that Angie is dead this will give Junior the opportunity 

 

to have sex with her corpse -- which occurred in the book.  In the book Junior had two dead 'girlfriends' who he had relations with.

 

I assume it's going to be a new girl, since she already seems like a replacement.  Angie's death give Jr more angst since the writers love this psycho so much.

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I'm calling it now: Phil is the one who killed Angie.

 

I don't know why, it just feels like the kind of stupid plot twist that suits this show.

 

Yes I agree.  This is how it will probably go:

 

1. For three episodes, Junior blames Big Jim for killing Angie.  Jim denies, but Junior doesn't believe him.  Nobody believes Jim.  Poor dear, it is so unjust to be accused of a crime you didn't commit.

 

2. Big Jim saves Junior's life and/or makes some other big gesture which makes Junior regain his trust.  It looks like Big Jim has turned over a new leaf!

 

3. Meanwhile, Phil the new Sheriff digs into Dodie's murder.

 

4. Surprise reveal!  Big Jim paid Phil to murder Angie, but now Phil has found out Big Jim killed Dodie, and Phil threatens the tell the whole town.

 

5. Headline on internet: Major Character Will Die on Under the Dome!  

 

6. Big Jim kills Phil to keep him quiet.  He's Big Villain Again!

 

7. Big Jim frames Barbie, Julia, Joe, Norrie or maybe even his own son for Phil's death.

 

Wash rinse repeat.

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There's an interesting call back in the Season 2 premiere with the unveiling of Sam Verdreaux, the drunk ex-EMT.

 

In the Season 1 premiere, Linda finds Duke Perkins relaxing in a jail cell bed, and tells him that Sam Verdreaux called and that while he sounded drunk on the phone Sam had heard a large bang and was calling to report it.

 

Apparently, Duke and Linda were on their way back from investigating the large bang at Sam's cabin when they passed Barbie on the road, right before the dome came down. Wouldn't that put Sam's cabin outside the dome ?

 

So apparently Sam Verdreaux sat drunk in his cabin for at least 2 weeks (he did have a lot of liquor bottles in his cabin), completely oblivious to the dome shenanigans.  I guess he finally ran out of booze and sobered up.

Also, was the large bang that Sam heard related to the dome -- although it occurred at least an hour or so before the dome fell.

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I'm just glad the Domeites are finally acting like real people and realizing that their food and water supplies are limited. I predict the next 'shocking twist' will be cannibalism - perfect for a Hannibal crossover.

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I was just wondering if you guys had any idea of who killed Angie? I mean, I'm really hesitating between 3 characters : it could be Junior, because we all know that he is unstable, but I don't think it's him. I also think it could be Sam, because he seems too nice and I just wonder why they would add a character that nice in the show, it doesn't bring anything interesting if he really is the guy that he pretends to be. Besides, he lives in the woods so he probably has an ax. Finally, it could be Lyle, because he's simply weird.

Do you guys have any ideas?

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Speculation about the dome: The only thing that would make sense to me is that there was some kind of toxic chemical event in the town that has everyone hallucinating, and the dome is some sort of containment tent.

I was just wondering if you guys had any idea of who killed Angie?

The scratches on Sam's shoulder were supposed to telegraph to us that he killed her, but it's also possible he was jut there when black-out drunk Junior killed her, or someone/something else scratched him. IDK. Joe's missing dog scratched him?
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I was just wondering if you guys had any idea of who killed Angie? I mean, I'm really hesitating between 3 characters : it could be Junior, because we all know that he is unstable, but I don't think it's him. I also think it could be Sam, because he seems too nice and I just wonder why they would add a character that nice in the show, it doesn't bring anything interesting if he really is the guy that he pretends to be. Besides, he lives in the woods so he probably has an ax. Finally, it could be Lyle, because he's simply weird.

Do you guys have any ideas?

 

They set it up to look like Junior (his drunken blackout combined with the bracelet under the bunk in jail), and now Sam (the scratches on his right shoulder and acting creepy) -- which probably means neither one did it.  But it really doesn't matter Under the Dumb -- Big Jim killed Rev. Coggins, Maxine Hargreave, Agatha  Hargreave and Dodee Weaver and there's been no repercussions from those at all (even though Barbie witnessed Big Jim kill Maxine, and then try to frame Barbie for it, Barbie has never mentioned Maxine's murder since to anyone).  Junior kidnapped and imprisoned Angie and killed Ollie -- again, no repercussions.

 

So whoever it turns out to be that killed Angie, nothing will happen to them -- plus as quickly as they went up, they have already torn down the gallows so their won't be anymore hangings.

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They set it up to look like Junior (his drunken blackout combined with the bracelet under the bunk in jail), and now Sam (the scratches on his right shoulder and acting creepy) -- which probably means neither one did it.

 

Yeah, it will definitely not be Junior.  The first suspect and the most obvious suspect is always a no.  Lyle seems too obvious as well.  Sam is still a possibility even though they revealed the scratches... it depends how long they want to drag this out.  But I agree it might not be him either, since they will go for the "surprise".  Or not so surprise, where they reveal it's Big Jim, who was the obvious tool to start with.  Or they will do some random out-of-nowhere killer like Phil the DJ, or Norrie's other mom possessed by the Dome or other such nonsense.

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The scratches on Sam's shoulder make us believe that he's the one who killed Angie. The only problem is that I don't think they would've shown it if he really were the murderer. They want to make us believe that Sam's the murderer, in order to surprise us when we find out he's not. So, it might be him, but I seriously doubt it. But who could it be then?

The only one I could think of is Sam, because the fact that he suddenly cares about Junior, after 9 years out of his life, could make us think that the only purpose of them becoming closer is for Sam to put the blame on his nephew. He knows that Junior is mentally fragile so it would be easy putting the blame on him, like putting Angie's bracelet under Junior's bed so he thinks he killed her. He doesn't remember anything from that night, and it would be easy to make him think he killed her. I think that's why Sam suddenly cares about his nephew.  I hope we're gonna find out who killed Angie in the upcoming episodes. 

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The actresses who played Angie and Linda, each have 3 more recent projects on their IMDb pages, which supports my theory that Angie and Linda were killed off because the actresses couldn't commit to a second season, not because of some plot point.

 

It could be the other way around, and they signed onto projects after they knew they were off "Under the Dome".  They started shooting the season a few months ago, so lots of time since then.  The actress (Angie at least) said she was surprised to be killed off, and I don't think she would lie about it.  The writers love killing people off, as they reiterated again at Comic-con, and they only have so many characters.  It's possible that they told Linda and Angie ahead of time they would exit sometime during Season 2 but didn't specify when.  This gimmick only goes so far, before the main cast is completely gone.  What other "originals" are left to kill off? 
- Big Jim (not going to happen)
- Barbie
- Julia
- Junior
- Joe
- Norrie
- Norrie's mom
- Phil

 

Now, the last two are cannon fodder for sure, but they will probably get rid of of another two for their big finish for S2 in their bloodlust.

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Natalie Martinez (Linda) has two projects in post-production and one in pre-production, so it is possible that she would be have been available for UTD season 2, but I could see them killing her off anyway.  I think Linda was expendable - they didn't seem to know what to do with her character, and she seemed to be getting more and more gullible and clueless.  Besides, they sort of needed her to be gone, since she was the only member of the police force left who was actually trained in law enforcement. 

 

Angie was more essential to the story - she seemed to be relatively smart and she was feisty - she wasn't going to blindly believe Big Jim or forgive him easily, she would continue to look for answers.  There doesn't seem to be a character that fits this anymore - Dodie had possibilities, but she was killed off, Norrie complains a lot but doesn't actually do anything about it, Barbie is always suspicious of big Jim, but he is more of a reacter than a self-starter.  This lead me to believe that they wouldn't have gotten rid of Angie if they didn't have to. Brit Robertson (Angie) has one project completed, one in post production and one currently filming - it doesn't seem like she would have had time to film Under the Dome season 2.  Although that doesn't mean that she quit, or that she wasn't surprised that Angie was killed -, she may have thought Angie could lay low, be held hostage again, or slip into a coma, and then come back.  

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For the Linda actress, I really wouldn't blame her for bailing.  They stopped writing her as an independently thinking character in the end of S1, and as you said, they were probably bored with a character who wouldn't cause problems.  But thinking back to early S1, with the fiancé, it's kind of a letdown we'll never get rewarded for the happy reunions in the end when the Dome is actually down.  Ditto with Dodie, who had a relative outside.  Who's left with an actual reunion of a loved one?  Did Joe's parents even show up for the Dome reunion?

 

Angie was more surprising, since she did have story especially with how much the writers love Junior.  From the interview she gave, though, it sounded like she was surprised she was written out so early in Season 2, so maybe she expected to go sometime during S2 but didn't know when?  She did say in the interview, she only signed on for 10 episodes of "Under the Dome", so she probably didn't want a long-range commitment.

 

Filming for S2 started March 3, 2014 and finished July (3.5 months of filming).  

 

Of her three projects mentioned, "Tomorrowland" already wrapped in Jan 2014, so that one is not relevant.  "Cake" filmed Apr 3 - May 6 (not sure how big a role she had).  So she could conceivably have been in several episodes of S2.  Or she got casted in March after finding out she was off "Dome".  She was announced as being in "The Longest Ride" in May, and that began filming June 16.

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I would have the dome slowly sink into the ground until the final dramatic episodes where the remaining survivors are crawling around like crabs and fighting Big Jim over the center spot with the four-foot head clearance.  Now that's a finish!

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My hope is that the series ends with the SCP Foundation showing up and declaring The Dome to be a Euclid level threat; they are able to get everyone out.  However, they all (except Barbie) become D-Class Personnel and they get shipped off to be used as test subjects :)

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Barbie's dad runs a company called Aktaion.  Aktaion (or Actaeon) was  Greek prince who had the misfortune of seeing the goddess Artemis (Diana) bathing with her nymphs.  Artemis/Diana cursed Actaeon by turning him into a stag, who is then eaten my Actaeon's hunting dogs after she made them go wild with the hunger of the wolf.

 

Think about it, won't you?  Thank you.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actaeon

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If this show is back next summer, I'm really gonna need someone to do away with Big Jim in a really horrible and fitting way.

 

Don't worry, Big Jim will shake off that shoulder gunshot wound just like Julia and DJ Phil did .... and be back to murdering in no time at all.

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Big Jim will have a moment of salvation from the Dome, save everyone in the tunnels, and they'll be back to worshipping him.  We'll have another season of Barbie and Julia working with him as if nothing had happened, and then in the next season finale, he'll kill the remaining redshirt original, Norrie's mom.

 

I'm guessing Sam is a goner/cannon fodder for the Season 3 premiere.

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