adora721 August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Starry said: I don't want to give SBs the attention they don't deserve but what are they trying to say here? That Caitlin Snow-Allen cheated on her husband with a black man? Because Nora is obviously biracial. Well, some believe Nora gets her "coloring" from Joe, Barry's non-biological "dad" (LOL). 5 Link to comment
Trini August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 Wait, so with the latest poster, does that mean that Nora is officially 'Nora West-Allen'? There still hasn't been any straightforward listing of her name yet. :-/ Oh, and here's the promo pic without the E! logo: 2 Link to comment
Primal Slayer August 31, 2018 Share August 31, 2018 Lke the poster....but why is The Flash so bad with making good masks? Link to comment
Trini September 2, 2018 Share September 2, 2018 (edited) Aw, I like Nora's mask with the little lightning bolts(?) on it. And it's more streamlined than the one they gave Iris/Jesse/Trajectory. It won't be poster, but I'm hoping one of the set photographers takes a good West-Allen family pic sometime this season. That will most likely end up getting used more than this photoshopped composite. Edited September 2, 2018 by Trini 2 Link to comment
Kate45 September 3, 2018 Share September 3, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 5:10 AM, Starry said: I don't want to give SBs the attention they don't deserve but what are they trying to say here? That Caitlin Snow-Allen cheated on her husband with a black man? Because Nora is obviously biracial. No, of course not. Only Iris would cheat on Barry. Caitlin is so faithful to her men (We’ll pretend like she didn’t cheat on her fiancé in 1x19)! She’s darker because of Joe! ? No joke, an SB told me that once and I have never stopped laughing! They really believe their incest claims, lol. They really think Barry’s bio father is Joe, not Henry. 3 Link to comment
Trini September 3, 2018 Share September 3, 2018 Dragon Con panel with Tom Cavanagh, Victor Garber, and Brandon Routh: No real new info or spoilers for Flash; Tom gives a bit of the accent for the new Wells character. Link to comment
adora721 September 5, 2018 Share September 5, 2018 (edited) https://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-2018-season-premiere-spoilers/#!15/the-flash-fall-tv-preview-2018/ Edited September 5, 2018 by adora721 5 Link to comment
Trini September 5, 2018 Share September 5, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 3:34 AM, Trini said: It won't be poster, but I'm hoping one of the set photographers takes a good West-Allen family pic sometime this season. That will most likely end up getting used more than this photoshopped composite. 55 minutes ago, adora721 said: https://tvline.com/gallery/fall-tv-2018-season-premiere-spoilers/#!15/the-flash-fall-tv-preview-2018/ Aaaaaahhhhh!!! It came sooner than expected!! ??? 1 Link to comment
Trini September 6, 2018 Share September 6, 2018 (edited) I can't get over this beautiful little family! (Must... Not... Get hopes up...) The marketing people know what sells, I hope the showrunners/editors are paying attention. Edited September 7, 2018 by Trini 3 Link to comment
Trini September 7, 2018 Share September 7, 2018 Reminder that Candice and Hartley will be at a convention in New Jersey this weekend. I doubt we'll get much, if any, new info: 1 Link to comment
Trini September 9, 2018 Share September 9, 2018 From Heroes & Villains Fanfest: Candice, Hartley, and puppy cuteness! 4 Link to comment
Trini September 10, 2018 Share September 10, 2018 Video of Candice and Hartley's HVFF panel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf7j4x3mNko A couple of *spoiler* bits. Link to comment
Trini September 11, 2018 Share September 11, 2018 Wow, so this is the 3rd poster for the season so far: I like the tagline. 9 Link to comment
Trini September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 Now I just need a solo poster for Vibe, and a solo for Nora/XS, and I'm good! (Well, and new cast photos for everyone, but I know that's not happening.) Link to comment
paulvdb September 12, 2018 Share September 12, 2018 On 9-9-2018 at 8:57 PM, Trini said: I've previously mentioned that I don't like Ralph. And I'm also not a fan of Jim Carrey so this doesn't help if they want me to like Ralph. 2 Link to comment
Trini September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 New merchandise from Funko: https://www.funko.com/blog/article/coming-soon-the-flash-pop Now we just need Iris and Caitlin(Killer Frost?). Joe too, but seems less likely. 1 Link to comment
adora721 September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 Love seeing CP advocate for and support all the female characters on the show despite any BTS issues: 2 Link to comment
Primal Slayer September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 How sad! Funko had to release their surprise....exclusive Killer Frost. But yeah it is stupid that they give Jay a funko but not Iris? 4 Link to comment
adora721 September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: How sad! Funko had to release their surprise....exclusive Killer Frost. But yeah it is stupid that they give Jay a funko but not Iris? They gave Felicity one years ago as well, but not Iris. They should be ashamed. 2 Link to comment
Trini September 13, 2018 Share September 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said: But yeah it is stupid that they give Jay a funko but not Iris? I'm fine with all the characters they've released so far. It's typical that they'd do the super-powered ones first. They just need to also do Iris since she's a main character. And she's had powers, so they could even do that version. 3 Link to comment
Katsullivan September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Trini said: I'm fine with all the characters they've released so far. It's typical that they'd do the super-powered ones first. They just need to also do Iris since she's a main character. And she's had powers, so they could even do that version. That's a sad excuse for misogynoir. "Super-powers" weren't a requirement for other non-powered female leads like Felicity or Lois Lane (Smallville). The fact that they made two villain dolls (reverse flash and killer frost) before Iris is so disrespectful, I have no words. 4 Link to comment
SevenStars September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 16 hours ago, Trini said: I'm fine with all the characters they've released so far. It's typical that they'd do the super-powered ones first. They just need to also do Iris since she's a main character. And she's had powers, so they could even do that version. I will agree with this if this is the first set. But if it isn't, this excuse/reasoning doesn't work for me especially since Flash is on it's 5th season and has been a success for CW. 3 Link to comment
Trini September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 BTW, purple lightning is now in the profile pics of the show's social media: --- A few quotes from EP Helbing and Grant in EW's season preview article: Quote “I don’t want people’s expectations to be through the roof, but I really think this could be very similar to season 1 in [terms of] the heart and humor it had and the scope,” Grant Gustin tells EW. One thing contributing to the season’s lighthearted tone is the arrival of Barry and Iris’ (Candice) daughter from the future Nora (Jessica Parker Kennedy), which essentially thrusts parenthood onto the couple. “They’re learning all of the lessons new parents learn when their kids grow up, but since she’s an adult it sort of adds this heightened scenario to all those decisions,” says EP Todd Helbing. Although there’s some chilliness between Iris and Nora, the opposite is true of Barry and Nora’s dynamic. “The dynamic between Barry and Nora has been a lot of fun to play with. Nora really looks up to Barry, and they have a connection right away, and she brings out that kind of fun, more bubbly side of Barry that we don’t get to see quite as much anymore,” says Gustin. But, this is The Flash, so we know the fun times can’t last long, which is due to season 5 big bad Cicada (Chris Klein). “We learn pretty early on, which shouldn’t come as a huge shock, that Nora being here actually has something to do with Cicada’s arrival,” says Gustin. Taking the one spoiler-ish bit to the Spoiler thread. Link to comment
Trini September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 ET Live With Jessica Parker Kennedy: Lots of interesting bits, but she can't really spoil anything big. Link to comment
ruby24 September 14, 2018 Share September 14, 2018 Cool. Looking forward to the season quite a bit. I think having her there will introduce a new dynamic that hasn't come about with the intro of other new characters. Link to comment
phoenics September 15, 2018 Share September 15, 2018 18 hours ago, Trini said: ET Live With Jessica Parker Kennedy: Lots of interesting bits, but she can't really spoil anything big. God this casting was perfect. For a moment there, I thought that was Candice Patton! I saw the hair, the mouth, the eyes and the nose and thought it was her with a really bright light on her to account for the lighter skintone - but then I realized it was JPK! Wow! Link to comment
Trini September 17, 2018 Share September 17, 2018 They must know people are asking about this: 'The Flash Family 'Reunion' Mystery: Why Will Nora Be Chilly to Her Mom?' -- more quotes from Candice and Jessica. [going to comment in the spoiler thread.] Link to comment
Trini September 20, 2018 Share September 20, 2018 Reminder that Carlos and Danielle P. will be at Edmonton Expo this weekend. Their joint panel is on Saturday. Link to comment
Trini September 21, 2018 Share September 21, 2018 (edited) A few quotes from Helbing here: 'Todd Helbing Teases What's Ahead in Season 5' Nothing really new. ---- Pretty substantial interview with Patrick Sabongui about The Flash, and his character, Capt. Singh. Quote “Some kid entrenched in this community that doesn’t accept him or her can see themselves represented in Captain Singh either because of being a visible minority or because of his sexual orientation and feeling like they identify. That could have untold effect in that child’s life. That is real, more real to me than any contract or any ratings or any other kind of success. That is affecting somebody’s life that may not have found that they feel okay in their identity until you know maybe I can contribute to it. So it’s one of the highlights of my career, honestly being able to be part of people’s experience that way”, Patrick said. Quote I know he gives Barry a hard time. People are always saying ‘damn you really hate Barry’ and I don’t think he has any animosity towards Barry whatsoever. I think it’s a tough love. I know he did dress him down sometimes but it’s out of tough love. I think he expects more from Barry and he wants Barry to succeed. Barry’s a bit flaky in the real world especially if you don’t know the context of why he’s being flaky. I think their relationship continues down that path. Singh wants the best for Barry. He wants Barry to do better, he wants him to succeed. Edited September 21, 2018 by Trini Link to comment
BeautifulFlower September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 The only thing worthwhile that was said at the con was Cisco and Caitlin will have more friendships scenes this season. Nothing else was said. Apparently nobody asked about Caitlin's storyline. The con sounded boring Although this was interesting. For years, her favorite episode was always the karaoke episode (the sb shipbaiting ep). 2 Link to comment
Trini September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 (edited) Also from Edmonton Expo's gallery, a couple of photos of Carlos and Danielle (Sorry, can't seem to re-size the photo) : Carlos is wearing a Trejo's Tacos shirt! Edited September 23, 2018 by Trini Link to comment
Starry September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 8 hours ago, BeautifulFlower said: The only thing worthwhile that was said at the con was Cisco and Caitlin will have more friendships scenes this season. Nothing else was said. Apparently nobody asked about Caitlin's storyline. The con sounded boring Although this was interesting. For years, her favorite episode was always the karaoke episode (the sb shipbaiting ep). Did they ask about Cisco's storyline? Because I'm more interested in his character. 4 Link to comment
BeautifulFlower September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Starry said: Did they ask about Cisco's storyline? Because I'm more interested in his character. Barely anything was said about the new season except they would have more friendship scenes. It's the same thing that happened at comic con. Right now, it's clear Cisco has no storyline and will play support in others 3 Link to comment
adora721 September 23, 2018 Share September 23, 2018 I'm confused about DP and CV selling Cisco and Caitlin friendship scenes as the best S5 has to offer for them. It's not like we're lacking in friendship scenes for those two. Their friendship predates the show in "Arrow". It predates even knowing Barry and has been established since S1 and heavily reinforced in S3 when Cisco was the main support and driver for Caitlin's Killer Frost redemption drama. Julian was a close second. So, isn't this just more of the same? My hope is that it's just a ploy to turn them from friends into lovers. That would be new and interesting. 3 Link to comment
phoenics September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 On 9/23/2018 at 4:28 PM, adora721 said: I'm confused about DP and CV selling Cisco and Caitlin friendship scenes as the best S5 has to offer for them. It's not like we're lacking in friendship scenes for those two. Their friendship predates the show in "Arrow". It predates even knowing Barry and has been established since S1 and heavily reinforced in S3 when Cisco was the main support and driver for Caitlin's Killer Frost redemption drama. Julian was a close second. So, isn't this just more of the same? My hope is that it's just a ploy to turn them from friends into lovers. That would be new and interesting. I kinda upset that it appears Cisco has no storyline this season - maybe he'll have something more in the back half? But I'd prefer to see him have more. It kills me that EVERY season Caitlin gets an independent arc - a BIG arc - and Cisco is not really ever given a full one. Nevermind how Iris still hasn't gotten her due. 3 Link to comment
adora721 September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 (edited) By accident, I saw a screen shot of the "Composure Magazine" cover DP did back in 2015 (?) online yesterday. I'd heard about it, but never seen it. I found the link to the article. The cover calls DP, "The leading lady of the CW's Flash"; I find it hard to believe TPTB were OK with that. Later in the article, it doubles down on that in the excerpt below: "Last year saw much discussion about roles for women in the entertainment industry, and there has never been a better time to champion feminine power on screen. “The Flash” has embraced this from the beginning, as its hero owes much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady. “I’m so proud to play such an intelligent woman on television,” Panabaker gushes about her character’s credentials as an accomplished bioengineer." Was there any fan backlash on this when the article claimed that Barry owed "much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady", Caitlin? I know people went insane when Iris declared "We are the Flash". Edited September 25, 2018 by adora721 1 Link to comment
Trini September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 Preview of the new Flash book coming out in November: https://www.cbr.com/preview-the-flash-the-secret-files-of-barry-allen/ The publisher's site: The Flash: The Secret Files of Barry Allen Link to comment
Trini September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 (edited) Speaking of -- the third book of the children's novels comes out next week: https://www.abramsbooks.com/product/flash-the-tornado-twins-the-flash-book-3_9781419731242/ It's odd that they don't have a summary out yet. Edited September 25, 2018 by Trini Link to comment
Trini September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 Podcast interview with Barry Lyga, author of the book trilogy: http://theflashpodcast.com/episodes/the-flash-podcast-interview-barry-lyga/ He talks about the books, writing them, and how they relate to the TV show. Link to comment
Chick2Chic September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 5 hours ago, adora721 said: By accident, I saw a screen shot of the "Composure Magazine" cover DP did back in 2015 (?) online yesterday. I'd heard about it, but never seen it. I found the link to the article. The cover calls DP, "The leading lady of the CW's Flash"; I find it hard to believe TPTB were OK with that. Later in the article, it doubles down on that in the excerpt below: "Last year saw much discussion about roles for women in the entertainment industry, and there has never been a better time to champion feminine power on screen. “The Flash” has embraced this from the beginning, as its hero owes much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady. “I’m so proud to play such an intelligent woman on television,” Panabaker gushes about her character’s credentials as an accomplished bioengineer." Was there any fan backlash on this when the article claimed that Barry owed "much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady", Caitlin? I know people went insane when Iris declared "We are the Flash". From what I saw firsthand, many Iris, CP, and WestAllen fans were mad about that cover. There was lots of venting on twitter and tumblr about it, most of it correcting the magazine that Iris is the leading since she is the actual love interest of the hero lead as well as anger about CP being disrespected/dismissed. I don't recall the resolution but folks were boiling mad in the westallen tag on tumblr and twitter. IMO, that incident more than anything else started folks I know and saw to side-eye her. I also think it made Iris/CP/WestAllen fans double down on refusing to let Iris go the way of Abbie Mills and Dinah Laurel Lance. 4 Link to comment
Trini September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 (edited) Audio of Carlos and Danielle's panel at Edmonton Expo (Sept. 22): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJatvry5u5Y They really don't give any big spoilers. I think it's worth listening to for Carlos' responses. In the Q&A, several people ask them the same questions, though. Edited September 25, 2018 by Trini Link to comment
adora721 September 25, 2018 Share September 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Chick2Chic said: I also think it made Iris/CP/WestAllen fans double down on refusing to let Iris go the way of Abbie Mills and Dinah Laurel Lance. Thanks for details on the history. I am still quite shocked they didn't retract or change the leading lady detail even after all these years. Link to comment
phoenics September 26, 2018 Share September 26, 2018 9 hours ago, adora721 said: By accident, I saw a screen shot of the "Composure Magazine" cover DP did back in 2015 (?) online yesterday. I'd heard about it, but never seen it. I found the link to the article. The cover calls DP, "The leading lady of the CW's Flash"; I find it hard to believe TPTB were OK with that. Later in the article, it doubles down on that in the excerpt below: "Last year saw much discussion about roles for women in the entertainment industry, and there has never been a better time to champion feminine power on screen. “The Flash” has embraced this from the beginning, as its hero owes much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady. “I’m so proud to play such an intelligent woman on television,” Panabaker gushes about her character’s credentials as an accomplished bioengineer." Was there any fan backlash on this when the article claimed that Barry owed "much of his crime-fighting success to his leading lady", Caitlin? I know people went insane when Iris declared "We are the Flash". There was massive backlash from CP/Iris fans on this. We even sent notes to the magazine correcting them and making it plain that their FALSE take erased the actual female lead - CP. Then there was this interesting claim by DP fans that The Flash had no female lead - which quickly got disabused in the media because a flurry of articles came out saying CP was the lead (before Season 3). And in some, I think one of the Helbing brothers referred to CP as the female lead. And since that time, EVERY article refers to CP as the leading lady of the flash. It was a particularly bad time - and I sometimes wonder if this was a turning point for CP with DP. 3 Link to comment
phoenics September 26, 2018 Share September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, adora721 said: Thanks for details on the history. I am still quite shocked they didn't retract or change the leading lady detail even after all these years. Fans even wrote the magazine to explain to them that their cover was wrong. They never corrected it. I hope it's folded since then. Jerks. Damn - I'm STILL mad. And honestly this was when DP became essentially dead to me and I lost ALL respect for her. Everything people have said about her plotting with AJK and conspiring against CP became so much more probable after this. And this is after she spent time pre-pilot and during S1/2 doing EVERYTHING she could to erase CP ("I love being the only woman at Star Labs!" when asked about Iris eventually being there more, and pimping SnowBarry right in front of Candice and Carlos in an interview - you should have seen their side eye at her, to countless other micro-aggressions and foolishness over the years). No wonder there seems to be no love lost between them after what DP did. No wonder EBR and CL DROPPED DP from their social media. You KNOW some shit went down and they've chosen to back CP because they KNOW DP is shady AF. 4 Link to comment
Kate45 September 26, 2018 Share September 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, phoenics said: There was massive backlash from CP/Iris fans on this. We even sent notes to the magazine correcting them and making it plain that their FALSE take erased the actual female lead - CP. Then there was this interesting claim by DP fans that The Flash had no female lead - which quickly got disabused in the media because a flurry of articles came out saying CP was the lead (before Season 3). And in some, I think one of the Helbing brothers referred to CP as the female lead. And since that time, EVERY article refers to CP as the leading lady of the flash. It was a particularly bad time - and I sometimes wonder if this was a turning point for CP with DP. I think this was the end of the road for Candice, even though it was clear some tension was there by the end of season 1. 2016 also marked the only time Danielle wished Candice a happy birthday on SM and it was right after that awkward trip to Monaco together. I think even Danielle knew that magazine cover was a mistake, and I think she was trying to make up for it. Danielle knew that the magazine was going to feature her and claim she was the leading lady. That’s how these types of magazine covers work. It was an interesting move, but I think it mostly backfired on her, tbh. Edited September 26, 2018 by Kate45 2 Link to comment
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