Little Women: LA - General Discussion

[Alapaki]

11 hours ago, Destiny74 said:

She could have developmental delays totally unrelated to her dwarfism.  If she does, it takes A LOT of hard work from parents and therapists to hit those milestones.  Joe and Terra will really have to step it up if that is the case.  

It seems to me that Penny is obviously developmentally delayed.  

I didn't comment on it at the time, but there was a scene earlier in the season that I found extremely disturbing.

Terra and Joe were at home, and Penny was "army crawling" and it was very apparent that she couldn't use her legs to do anything else.  At her age, that's a delay.

Then, they mentioned that Penny couldn't even "cruise" along furniture because her knee joints kept sliding out of place.  And they were personally debating whether to get her knee braces.

Now, I realize that a lot of the conversations that we see are artificial re-enactments (that would be clumsy "exposition" in a book).  But I really hope that they're consulting a medical specialist about that issue and not just deciding for themselves.  If a problem with her knee joints is preventing her from standing and weight-bearing, she's never going to develop the muscle strength and agility to walk.  Her leg muscles must be atrophying and the nerves are not learning what they need to know to send the signals to walk.

13 hours ago, PreciousGem said:

I wonder what was said about the others in her book that she needs them to sign a release?  If Terra does change her mind and tells Christy she would sign a release if christy wrote a book, christy should get that in writing. 

That's the thing.  You don't need a "release" to write an autobiography, unless you're planning on committing defamation.  Otherwise, no one would ever write an autobiography. 

[4leafclover]

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As for baby Penny, is there is something seriously mentally wrong with her? Poor baby never smiles, never laughs, 

Not to be mean but, Penny's mother is Terra and her father is Joe.  Really, is there anything there to smile about?  

[Alapaki]

I finally got around to watching this episode.  The difference between Penny, at 2, and Elena's children, at less than 1, is shocking.  

Brianna's story on that photo shoot just keeps changing, doesn't it?

I hate to agree with Christy on anything, but I'd have said "if this release is so important to you, I want a percentage of gross sales, and I want pre-approval on anything you write about me.  

Tonya continues to be an asshole.  If Christy lip-syncing a "midget" song is so fucking offensive, why was Tonya cackling when Terra told the others that she got the video from Tonya?  

And, wow, did Tonya look fat in that dress that she wore to help Terra get ready for the party.  You know, the party where she claimed someone stole her dog.  Because dogs never run away on their own.

Finally on Tonya. . . "My activewear (drink!) line launched.  Now I just need stores to sell it in".  Umm, that means it hasn't fucking launched!!!!!  

[Mosspack1970]

Attention ladies please buy clothes that fit. Enough with the sausage casing dresses 

Hallelujah we made it through an entire episode without Terra doing that awful crying thing where her voice goes so high only dogs can understand her. 

[Chewy101]

SO much hypocrisy. Terra is not one to cross. Christy basically said if you can write about me I can write about you, and Terra said no way. Then she turns around and airs Christy's dirty laundry to all of the girls, and not one thinks it is even inappropriate or vengeful. These are some mean, mean girls. As much as Christy is lonely and dying for girlfriends, she needs to look elsewhere.

Terra "hoping" that no one would cause a scene at her kid's party after doing just that last week was funny. And then, she ends up gossiping like an evil hen anyway.

Why was Tonya dressed for a funeral at Penny's Bday party?

Why do people still try to be friends with Briana. I'd take Christy over that delusional lunatic. Her photo shoot BS is embarrassing to watch. At least when Terra says she has something going on, we actually see it happen. Tonya and Briana, not so sure.

[Spiderella2]

On 5/24/2017 at 5:32 PM, renatae said:

"I still can't grasp the idea that in her mid 30's, Brianna becomes a runway "model."  And an author.  And a dancer.  What's next, a superhero?  lol  I'm no fan of hers, but to have it spread all over TV that you have body odor funk is embarrassing!"

 

So now on the episode from May 23, Brianna is blabbering on about Terra's book, saying, "Oh, now Christy wants to write a book, and next it will be Elena and Jasmine wanting to."  Being the Queen of piggybacking, I guess Brianna knows what she is talking about, LOL.

It took a lot of nerve, IMHO, for Terra to first state she was writing a book all about herself and then ask the others to sign off on it. While declaring it was "all about me," what is her excuse for needing them to sign off? She was pure manipulation finally meeting one on one nicey nicey with Christy, planning to butter her up to get the signature, then pounce on her about that video. Then passing it all around after Christy said how sorry she was, was a rotten move. Christy lecturing the others on this issue was not something I was around for, so I guess I'd feel differently if I had seen it. I don't know how rough she was on them. Personally, I don't understand why the "M" word is such a hot button for them. Being pretty old, I do not remember anyone ever using it in a derogatory way. It was just an adjective, period.

I honestly don't get why Terra is so desperate for everyone to sign the book release. She could still tell the same stories and just change the names to something fictional so a release is not required. Writers do it all the time and a real 'writer' would know that. I think it's more about rubbing her latest achievement in everyone's face than really needing their permission. Playing that midget video at Penny's birthday was totally uncalled for. 

When Christy said she would want Terra to sign a release too, I actually respected that. Terra obv isn't going to sign it, but I would want to know about Terra's dirty laundry, just out of curiosity. I thought Christy was overly emotional at the surgery, but the surgeon was very kind and reassuring to her. Does anyone have any pics of Todd now? I would like to see what he looks like and if he lost any weight. 

Tonya is becoming the greatest gossiper on the show. I guess since Terra is too busy with her projects, Tonya decided to step in to fill that void. She has blabbed so many times, spilled secrets, and put her foot in her mouth that I can't even respect her anymore. 

I know I said this a few posts ago but Briana is friggin delusional. She has all these lofty dreams and aspirations for herself . I'm all about dreaming big, but you also need a healthy dose of realism. So far she is woefully and epically Failing in all her dreams. She must have done something notable to get her on the show, but so far all I've seen is lies, lies, and even more lies. 

Singer - who has not taken any vocal training, thinking she will instantly become famous. So glad Berry Gordy didn't fall for the hype and kept it real. She's a mediocre singer, nothing special at all. She doesn't have the lung capacity, dedication, or years of vocal training under her belt to get beyond the mediocre level. 

Model- so you want to be a model, but your first stop is a "sexy" Maxim shoot? That whole photo shoot was extremely creepy to me with Matt grossly salivating on the set. Matt seems to be steering her more towards fetish MILF porn than actual modeling. Her next attempt at modeling was the runway show that she bragged about to Tonya, then whined because Tonya didn't invite her to the activewear launch. 

Poetess - she claims to write poetry and she did have that poetry reading in season 1, but it was an open mic event, nothing special there.

Author - Now she wants to write her Lil Fierce Mama book, which she hasn't begun writing yet, but has always been a dream of hers. If I had to choose at gunpoint between Terra and her book, I would pick Terra's because at least hers would at least be interesting. What is Briana going to write about.? Here are a few ideas off the top of my head;

1. How to land a creepy freak who  constantly cheats on you and disrespects you?

2. How to become estranged from all your family and friends?

3. How to end up in a domestic violent relationship?

4. How to ignore your health and wait to seek medical attention until the extent that you almost died?

5. How to waste your money on breeder pit bulls that will eventually bite you or your children?

6. How to turn yourself into the biggest liar on television? 

7. How to make all your friends secretly hate your guts and abhor your presence? 

8. How to create a funky natural body odor so all don't want to even have your wear their clothes, or near them. Just shower honey...I know you have 2 kids but I have 2.5 yr old twins and I still shower regularly. 

Hmmm, I mean, if she picked any of these, she would have a NYT best seller. I'm thinking her book will be more full of drivel, inspirational quotes and anecdotes she jacked from others. She is not real to herself or others, so her book isn't going to have anything real either. 

Edited May 26, 2017 by Spiderella2
Spelling & Tosia's suggestion

[Tosia]

Don't forget Brianna's rank body odor.

[heatherchandler]

15 hours ago, Alapaki said:

 

Brianna's story on that photo shoot just keeps changing, doesn't it?

Yes - and she should actually be thrilled that the photographer photoshopped her ugly face to look better... there is no way Maxim is putting her on the cover, in the magazine OR online unless she is heavily photoshopped.  Actually, even with the photoshopping, she is still not attractive, and kind of old.  

 

12 hours ago, Mosspack1970 said:

Attention ladies please buy clothes that fit. Enough with the sausage casing dresses 

Hallelujah we made it through an entire episode without Terra doing that awful crying thing where her voice goes so high only dogs can understand her. 

It is painful to watch when these ladies walk around in tight, cheap clothes and totter around in super high, ugly heels.  Maybe they want a little height, but seriously, the jig is up - you are small.  They always look so uncomfortable.  And Christy actually wiped out walking into that restaurant!

I cannot stand Terra, and when she does that stupid cry, it makes me hate her even more.  

[Irate Panda]

On 5/24/2017 at 11:25 AM, bichonblitz said:

Who's surprised Brianna's sexy photo shoot went nowhere? And they completely photoshopped her face! I would lmao if it wasn't so pathetic.

Totally agree with you....So Briana the delusional twit model was surprised a photographer would airbrush her photos, isn't that pretty much the industry standard? I get maybe not the industrial-strength job they did on her but she can't honestly believe she's model pretty.  Don't get me wrong I have zero chance of becoming a model which somehow is still better than Brianna's chances and I know she can't help the achon features but arent the majority of the people on these little women shows achondroplasia little people?  I don't think any of them have jacked up faces but Brianna is like I've said facially challenged.

 I'm trying to figure out if producers are just trying to embarrass her not possible after Matt or she really thinks she's going to become a huge star?  I guess she is willing to put up with it for a check but just when I feel bad for her because of the nationally televised BO stunt she turns around and does some other dumb shit now she's arguing about the word fierce.  I know it's bad because I absolutely hate Terra...and almost by default take the other person's side but Briana is just trifling because she puts herself in these stupid scenarios.  

Now that I think about it maybe she really is depressed I guess that would explain the B.O. she just doesn't care.  Her life is beyond screwed up.  I know most of it is her own doing but....I can't even complete this post because I know she'll do something infuriating the next episode and I'll hate her again.  Oh well I tried.

[Alapaki]

2 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Totally agree with you....So Briana the delusional twit model was surprised a photographer would airbrush her photos, isn't that pretty much the industry standard?

I find it very interesting that the last two times Brianna has gotten caught in a lie about her "career" (or at least got caught exaggerating an "opportunity") she's chosen to hide behind some sort of faux LP-activism stance as an excuse.

She "wouldn't" do the "runway" walk because the designer wanted her to wear average-size clothes and do something else to make her look taller.  Yeah.  I'm sure that happened.

And now she's diverting attention from the fact that this "Maxim photographer" who "hired her" was actually someone with a point-and-shoot that she found on Craig's List by complaining that he photoshopped her "Achon mid face"?  

If I were a legitimate LP activist, I think I'd be pretty pissed at Brianna for situationally taking up the cause solely to cover for her own lies and failures.

[bichonblitz]

53 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

She "wouldn't" do the "runway" walk because the designer wanted her to wear average-size clothes and do something else to make her look taller.  Yeah.  I'm sure that happened.

I remember she said they also wanted to lighten her hair to light brown to make her look taller. WTF? Umm yeah and an average size t-shirt will also do the trick. When you are 3'8" there ain't nothin gonna make  you look taller, boo. Stop with the bullshit, Bri. Her lies are becoming epic. Matt has really done a number on her or has she always been this bad?

[Tosia]

I think it's a combination of Matt's sick influence AND Brianna's delusional mindset coupled with desperation for a story line.  

"Everybody knows" that the word,  "fierce" belongs to Brianna completely.   LOL.

It seems to me that Bri was spoiled as a child because she was so small,  and got used to other people doing stuff for her or giving into her.  She was in a stroller until age 11 and I don't think it was all her family's preference. So, now that she's an adult, and getting pushback for her own choices,  AND finding out that she's not all that talented or cute, so it's a tough reality. BTW, her singing was painful.  Her face is bony, and is not attractive in many angles. 

In the preview for the next episode, was it Elena or Tonya who was arguing with Jasmine at the nail salon about letting Brianna grow up and handle her own problems?  Amen.

But Brianna can't, because she doesn't have the brain cells to argue for herself.  She never learned,  so she shuts people out. Just what Matt wants,  so he can control her.  Bri made her bed, and now. ......

[Irate Panda]

9 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

I remember she said they also wanted to lighten her hair to light brown to make her look taller. WTF? Umm yeah and an average size t-shirt will also do the trick. When you are 3'8" there ain't nothin gonna make  you look taller, boo. Stop with the bullshit, Bri. Her lies are becoming epic. Matt has really done a number on her or has she always been this bad?

I know!!! I was like WTF???  They wanted to lighten your hair to make you look taller???  She could have at least said they wanted me to wear lifts in my shoes and I was offended by that so didn't do the show or when I got there it was clear they wanted to use me as a "joke" or any of the other 5 billion more plausible excuses in the world. I don't remember her being this bad before Matt.  Honestly I don't remember much about Briana in the earlier seasons other than Todd supposedly being in love with her.  I can only hope all these nitwit shenanigans she finds herself in are for the show.  Does anybody know what Briana's job was before the show and I know this is probably a joke in itself but did Matt ever find a job or is it "taking care of Briana and the baby" in between texting people? I'm curious as to the salaries on this show besides Terra's are they enough to live on or do they make most of their money from appearances because aint nobody buying Little Boss activewear, makeup kits or any other crap they're shilling.

[Irate Panda]

On 4/14/2017 at 2:25 AM, Maharincess said:

I had the same thoughts about Brianna's "modeling".  I thought maybe she could model for the blind, like maybe a braille catalog or something but a fetish model is probably more like it. 

A BRAILLE CATALOG.....the only thing I can say is

[Irate Panda]

On 4/13/2016 at 10:23 PM, 4leafclover said:

^^^lol--and I refuse to even give odds on Brianna's singing career!  

Slim and none....and slim left town.  

[bichonblitz]

On 5/28/2017 at 10:01 AM, Tosia said:

It seems to me that Bri was spoiled as a child because she was so small,  and got used to other people doing stuff for her or giving into her.

I think it's the opposite.She said her bio mother was a drug addict, neglected her and gave her away. She doesn't even talk to the family that adopted her so it sounds to me like her childhood sucked.  To me, she's desperately trying to prove that she's something because deep down she feels like she's nothing. 

Edited May 29, 2017 by bichonblitz

[Destiny74]

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

I think it's the opposite.She said her bio mother was a drug addict, neglected her and gave her away. She doesn't even talk to the family that adopted her so it sounds to me like her childhood sucked.  To me, she's desperately trying to prove that she's something because deep down she feels like she's nothing. 

But, she doesn't talk to her family because of the whole Matt situation.  Her family was on earlier seasons and she got along well with them, especially her sister. 

[Chewy101]

23 minutes ago, Destiny74 said:

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

I think it's the opposite.She said her bio mother was a drug addict, neglected her and gave her away. She doesn't even talk to the family that adopted her so it sounds to me like her childhood sucked.  To me, she's desperately trying to prove that she's something because deep down she feels like she's nothing. 

But, she doesn't talk to her family because of the whole Matt situation.  Her family was on earlier seasons and she got along well with them, especially her sister. 

Yeah, I think she may have a complex about being adopted, so she won't let adoptive family in anymore. They used to get along fine - Matt just took them out of the picture.

She DID reunite with her birth mother in that spin off series that was just about her Matt.

[bichonblitz]

55 minutes ago, Chewy101 said:

She DID reunite with her birth mother in that spin off series that was just about her Matt.

Just my opinion, but I think they reunited for the spin off, who knows if they have kept in touch since. Bri said she had not seen her in 20 yrs. and all of a sudden she conveniently wanted to see her. It's not easy to forgive all that woman put Bri through as a child. It sounded like hell on earth. 

[Destiny74]

5 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Just my opinion, but I think they reunited for the spin off, who knows if they have kept in touch since. Bri said she had not seen her in 20 yrs. and all of a sudden she conveniently wanted to see her. It's not easy to forgive all that woman put Bri through as a child. It sounded like hell on earth. 

I couldn't bring myself to watch her special.  What was her childhood like?

[bichonblitz]

22 minutes ago, Destiny74 said:

I couldn't bring myself to watch her special.  What was her childhood like?

Her mother was a drug addict and would disappear for days with no food in the house, just to give you an idea. When the mom was home, she had strangers in the house all the time and only cared about her next fix. Typical addict bullshit.  Then she gave her up. Bri was not a baby when she gave her up so she lived like that for a while. It was a heartbreaking story and frankly I wouldn't let that mom any where near me or my kids but for the show Bri had her in her house. I don't like Bri but I can understand why she is so incredibly fucked up and makes the decisions she makes and would let a man like Matt manipulate her the way he does. 

Edited May 29, 2017 by bichonblitz

[Irate Panda]

After an all day marathon of LWLA (I know pathetic)I need to ask do any of the men on this show besides Preston have a job?  I was left wondering after Tonya telling Kerwin she's was the provider.  I thought maybe he was on some sort of disability since he seems to have trouble walking.  Chris went to conductor school (no idea what it was actually called) but did he ever get assigned to a route? Todd seems barely able to move so he also might qualify for disability but I'm not sure what kind of work outside the home he could do besides maybe telemarketing. Joe is/was a drummer but is he able to go on the road with Terra missing so much although I don't see how he's able to physically take care of two kids so maybe they just have the nanny stay at home? Matt....well Matt is Matt.   

In the midst of my binge watching I caught the episode where Brittany season 3? was talking about the women dating her Dad and when she got to Briana she said I heard she was psycho.  The next thing out of her mouth  was I know who's crazy...I know who's smelly so I'm wondering if that was a dig at Briana after Terra and Tanya's trash talking about her the last episode.

Edited May 30, 2017 by Irate Panda
Trying to find out if Briana is funky or Terra and Tanya are petty?

[4leafclover]

Welllllll, did you forget?  Matt is going to be a big bad MMA fighter and Brianna is going to be a singer/model/author/dancer/fairy/unicorn so they have a very rich future ahead of them!  lol

[Irate Panda]

1 minute ago, 4leafclover said:

Welllllll, did you forget?  Matt is going to be a big bad MMA fighter and Brianna is going to be a singer/model/author/dancer/fairy/unicorn so they have a very rich future ahead of them!  lol

What was I thinking??  Of course MMA champion of the world!  He also had the job "saving kids lives" ....sadly on that list I think fairy or unicorn are the jobs Briana are most qualified for

[4leafclover]

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..sadly on that list I think fairy or unicorn are the jobs Briana are most qualified for

Yes, and Matt too!

[Irate Panda]

I hate when Terra puts both her arms over her head and screams like a fool, I hate when she makes EVERYTHING about her, I hate when she does the cry/squeak/talk thing.  Basically, I hate Terra. 

[Mosspack1970]

21 hours ago, 4leafclover said:

Welllllll, did you forget?  Matt is going to be a big bad MMA fighter and Brianna is going to be a singer/model/author/dancer/fairy/unicorn so they have a very rich future ahead of them!  lol

When he said that I honestly thought he was joking at first. Until they started talking like it was reasonable option for out-of-shape too-old Matt. Can you see him going up against a ripped young guy that has been training for years? 

[pelucula]

On 5/11/2017 at 2:11 AM, bichonblitz said:

I was thinking that, too. Why go tell everybody until you know something for sure? I'm thinking she did that for the TV drama. 

 

On 5/11/2017 at 2:11 AM, bichonblitz said:

I was thinking that, too. Why go tell everybody until you know something for sure? I'm thinking she did that for the TV drama. 

how can terror claim to be "cancer-free" if she NEVER had cancer ??‍♀️.

[Tosia]

Ok, if someone had a "smell" issue, wouldn't that person --or any person--take showers regularly and wash their clothes regularly?   And especially if someone couldn't smell normally? 

Seriously, don't most normal people wash themselves or their clothes BEFORE they can smell them? 

I FLOVED Brianna saying that she has the talent,  but she is discriminated against because she is a little person.  Hasn't she recorded herself singing? ???????

Her hearing must be impaired 

[lasandi]

After reading all these posts I feel really sorry for Brianna coupled with how she is treated on the show by the other girls.  Terra said it best I think, Brianna doesn't stand up for herself so the others feel ok to gang up on her and say embarrassing things about and to her on national tv.  She doesn't push back hard enough. Brianna just seems so beaten down.  As far as Matt goes, I have no problem with him either.  That's Her husband and if she feels the need to forgive him, who am I to hate on him.  And I don't think Matt controls her either because if he did, her responses to those friends of hers would be more aggressive instead of being passive.  

[bichonblitz]

I don't get Brianna. She's using the fact that she doesn't have a good sense of smell, and this is why she has an offensive odor? Then even more reason to get yourself in the friggin' shower every day, wash your hair, brush your teeth and use deodorant. Every day. Like the rest of us do. Problem solved. It's really not difficult. And why doesn't Matt tell her she stinks if it's really so bad? Jeez. Excuses for everything with her!  

Jasmine needs to back off. I always liked her but her apology to Tonya which was rediculous because I feel Tonya did her wrong, and now starting shit with Terra and Bri about Terra's book title is getting to be annoying. Just mind your business, little budinski. 

Edited June 1, 2017 by bichonblitz

[pelucula]

On 5/26/2017 at 10:01 AM, Spiderella2 said:

I honestly don't get why Terra is so desperate for everyone to sign the book release. She could still tell the same stories and just change the names to something fictional so a release is not required. Writers do it all the time and a real 'writer' would know that. I think it's more about rubbing her latest achievement in everyone's face than really needing their permission. Playing that midget video at Penny's birthday was totally uncalled for. 

When Christy said she would want Terra to sign a release too, I actually respected that. Terra obv isn't going to sign it, but I would want to know about Terra's dirty laundry, just out of curiosity. I thought Christy was overly emotional at the surgery, but the surgeon was very kind and reassuring to her. Does anyone have any pics of Todd now? I would like to see what he looks like and if he lost any weight. 

Tonya is becoming the greatest gossiper on the show. I guess since Terra is too busy with her projects, Tonya decided to step in to fill that void. She has blabbed so many times, spilled secrets, and put her foot in her mouth that I can't even respect her anymore. 

I know I said this a few posts ago but Briana is friggin delusional. She has all these lofty dreams and aspirations for herself . I'm all about dreaming big, but you also need a healthy dose of realism. So far she is woefully and epically Failing in all her dreams. She must have done something notable to get her on the show, but so far all I've seen is lies, lies, and even more lies. 

Singer - who has not taken any vocal training, thinking she will instantly become famous. So glad Berry Gordy didn't fall for the hype and kept it real. She's a mediocre singer, nothing special at all. She doesn't have the lung capacity, dedication, or years of vocal training under her belt to get beyond the mediocre level. 

Model- so you want to be a model, but your first stop is a "sexy" Maxim shoot? That whole photo shoot was extremely creepy to me with Matt grossly salivating on the set. Matt seems to be steering her more towards fetish MILF porn than actual modeling. Her next attempt at modeling was the runway show that she bragged about to Tonya, then whined because Tonya didn't invite her to the activewear launch. 

Poetess - she claims to write poetry and she did have that poetry reading in season 1, but it was an open mic event, nothing special there.

Author - Now she wants to write her Lil Fierce Mama book, which she hasn't begun writing yet, but has always been a dream of hers. If I had to choose at gunpoint between Terra and her book, I would pick Terra's because at least hers would at least be interesting. What is Briana going to write about.? Here are a few ideas off the top of my head;

1. How to land a creepy freak who  constantly cheats on you and disrespects you?

2. How to become estranged from all your family and friends?

3. How to end up in a domestic violent relationship?

4. How to ignore your health and wait to seek medical attention until the extent that you almost died?

5. How to waste your money on breeder pit bulls that will eventually bite you or your children?

6. How to turn yourself into the biggest liar on television? 

7. How to make all your friends secretly hate your guts and abhor your presence? 

8. How to create a funky natural body odor so all don't want to even have your wear their clothes, or near them. Just shower honey...I know you have 2 kids but I have 2.5 yr old twins and I still shower regularly. 

Hmmm, I mean, if she picked any of these, she would have a NYT best seller. I'm thinking her book will be more full of drivel, inspirational quotes and anecdotes she jacked from others. She is not real to herself or others, so her book isn't going to have anything real either. 

you forgot to mention that you not only have time to shower but can also write a well thought out critique of bri. you hit the nail on the head: she lacks "dedication".

[Destiny74]

Was it just me or was that the dullest hour of LWLA ever?

However...

Brianna, it is a shame that your BO is so bad.  I would think that if I couldn't smell I would offend people with the smell of my detergents, soap, lotions, perfumes, and body spray rather than my BO.  People would have to have an intervention so I would stop using my Bath and Body Works.  It is really embarrassing this came out on TV though.  Also, you need to go to a doctor and have a straight up talk about your anxiety issues.  Your breakdown in the oxygen bar (huh?  At sea level?  I get having an oxygen bar on top of a mountain, but in LA? I guess the air is really that bad there) proved to me that you need help.  Whether that is counseling or some meds, you need help if talking about day to day life gives you that kind of anxiety.  Oh, another thought...QUIT PUTTING YOUR PERSONAL LIFE OUT ON REALITY TV AND ALL OVER THE INTERNET...that may help too.  Maybe you aren't cut out for stardom?

Todd, good on you man.  I hope the surgery helps.  Just know that it is not a quick fix.  You need to change your relationship with food. But, more power to you!

Christy, don't sign Terra release.  Or do.  Just know, those things about you she wants to include in her book will still be in there.  Just PLEASE don't let her bully you into it.

Tonya, be friends with whomever you choose.  Don't let Terra bully you into not being Christy's friend.  God knows Christy needs one.  Those looks Terra gave you and the things she said when you mentioned you saw her were horrible.  Be you.  See who you like and tell Terra to shove it up her ass if she doesn't like it.

Jasmine, stick to your own storyline, please, before I start to hate you too.  You need to realize that you can not like something, and find it distasteful (Terra being "Fierce") but it is not your battle to fight.  Sure, if you really want to, tell Terra you think it is awful for her to use that word, but let Brianna stick up for herself.  You have two adorable boys...they are who you need to fight for, not your grown ass friend.  I'm sure she will be bringing Terra a peace offering next week.

Elena, you were right.  Brianna doesn't need Jasmine to fight for her.  But Jasmine does have a point.  No one ever calls Terra out on her shit stirring.  The practice of just letting her shit lie and not making waves has led to Terra's enormous ego. Someone needs to hold her accountable for her Terraness.

Finally, Terra.  You are a really terrible person.  Really awful.  I believe you said you were just calling Christy out on her hypocrisy.  Terra, you are a hypocrite.  When on DWTS, didn't you make a big deal about wanting to stand up to bullying?  While at the time, you were bullying Christy?  Calling people names and degrading them is bullying, especially when it is a constant and driving (meaning you try to find ways to talk about them) thing.  I don't care that she "tried to ruin your life" GMAFB!  You could've been an adult and handled it thusly but you chose to act like a ten year old.  Idiot!  Anyway, point is, you are a hypocrite too.  Now, on to "fierce".  You cannot convince me you did not know Brianna is using that word.  One look at Brianna's Facebook or Twitter and you see it plastered everywhere.  No way you have never looked at Brianna's FB.  I could not care less what you title your lame ass book, just don't lie about it.  Besides, I thought you were the MiniMama?  Not good enough for publishing?

Oh, and the braids?  They make you look like the Dilophosaurus in Jurassic Park.  I was waiting for you to spit your venom at Jasmine and then attack and eat her.  From the heart, fire your hairdresser and anyone who tells you your hair has looked good these last few weeks.  They are not your friends.

Well, for a snooze of a show, I got awfully mouthy.  Sorry for the rant.

Edited June 2, 2017 by Destiny74
I have grammar OCD. ?

[heatherchandler]

46 minutes ago, Destiny74 said:

 

 

Oh, and the braids?  They make you look like the Dilophosaurus in Jurassic Park.  

 

Haha!!!  Omg I agree with your ENTIRE post, but this right here - too funny!!!

[bichonblitz]

Anybody see the wedding special? All I can say is holy shit, Elena. That picture of her first wedding with Preston........ her face is totally different. I mean totally. 

[kassa]

They've all changed so much!  

I think when it comes to the "releases" it must have something to do with their contracts for THIS show.  That none of them can talk about each other for profit without a release, or something.  To avoid tell-alls by the first person who bails out of the show on bad terms.  Otherwise there's no real reason you need a release for what you write about people you know... so long as it's true.

If these reality shows didn't have such clauses in their contract, we'd probably know ALL the secrets instead of just having blind items about them...

[Alapaki]

3 hours ago, kassa said:

I think when it comes to the "releases" it must have something to do with their contracts for THIS show.  That none of them can talk about each other for profit without a release, or something.  To avoid tell-alls by the first person who bails out of the show on bad terms.  Otherwise there's no real reason you need a release for what you write about people you know... so long as it's true.

I thought about that.  But they all surely had to sign non-disclosure agreements as a condition of being cast.  In that sense, a cast-member would need a release (or at least a contract amendment) from the show, not from another cast-member.

Then I thought that since Terra is an executive producer, in a sense she is the show.  So maybe they're afraid that if she writes something about the others, the others could argue that the show has somehow voided their NDAs, and be free to start telling tales.

Then I realized that I'd given this whole shitshow way more thought than it deserves.

As far as the last episode itself, really not much to say.  They're fighting of the word "fierce".  That pretty much sums up where this show is.

[Alapaki]

Also, and I know I've said this before, but:

Elena, wear a fucking bra!!!!!!

Jasmine obviously knows how to prop her puppies up-and-out.  It's not impossible.  

[Destiny74]

5 hours ago, Alapaki said:

 

Then I realized that I'd given this whole shitshow way more thought than it deserves.

 

LOL.  

I have thought that exactly.  After I write my diatribe, I go back and proofread, to make sure I am making sense to others and not just myself, and I cry a little for the lost minutes that I spent watching, writing, and rereading.  Then I drink some wine and think about how these people's lives are not mine and all is good.

Honestly, I rant here because no one in my "real" life watches the shows or even give a red damn about these people.  My friends and family are way more mature than I am.  ?

Edited June 3, 2017 by Destiny74

[Irate Panda]

Damn, that was basically a whole show about how Briana stinks and you know Terra reveled in it like a pig in slop. Now based on the edited conversation between Terra and a Jasmine it seems like at least one of them (Jasmine) tried to address it or hint at it but if Chelsea Handler (who I personally can't stand) is saying somebody/thing stinks in your group of friends Im pretty sure she's not sugar coating it.  Originally, I thought if Brianna was depressed maybe she just stayed in bed and didn't bathe but if she pulls herself together to film or go on Chelsea lately wouldnt you jump in the shower before hand? Is there a medical issue that can cause an odor?  Man, I'm grasping at straws like Brianna does career choices.  I guess It's just one more example of Brianna's low self esteem, but I do feel bad it was broadcast on tv multiple times by her "friends".

ETA was reading another board and apparently I missed the part where Briana said she doesn't shower because of her balance...<throws hands up> I got nothin'

Edited June 3, 2017 by Irate Panda
Again further investigation into the alleged funkiness of Brianna

[Destiny74]

51 minutes ago, Irate Panda said:

 

ETA was reading another board and apparently I missed the part where Briana said she doesn't shower because of her balance...<throws hands up> I got nothin'

LOL!  So, why doesn't she take a bath?  Hell, a sponge bath in the sink would do if she took one a day.  

Wait a second.  She has enough balance to wear high heels for her "Maxim" photo shoot, but not enough to take a five minute shower.  I call bullshit on that one!

[Nowhere]

I have zero problem with Christy. She has apologized to these horrid women so many times it's ridiculous. And in my opinion she hasn't done anything as bad as Terra and Tonya. She just better not sign that paper for Terra or she'll find her name smeared all over that book. Probably all lies. We've all made mistakes and Christy hasn't done anything any worse than any other normal person. And the midget video lol, I'm so glad she owned it and then called out Terra for doing midget wrestling on Jackass and other midget related entertainment. They've probably all done things like that when they were starting out. 

What's with Miss soft spoken Elena suddenly? Shaking her head as if she's above it all when the others come to her with more gossip. She was awful to Terra during DWTS. I guess it's her turn to try to clean up her image if she wants the kind of jobs Terra has been getting. I see through it. Terra turned sweet just before and during DWTS too. I wonder what Elena has coming up.

Jasmine needs to shut up now. She's as bad as Terra. Briana wasn't even thinking Terra used the word 'fierce' purposely but Jasmine had to basically make her feel like an idiot for not throwing a fit over a stupid word. Aaannnd now it's a thing. Good job Jasmine. 

Btw if Briana is offended by looking taller then she shouldn't wear heals. She made a mistake by turning down the edits for maxim. They edit everybody! Bodies, faces, everything is photoshopped. Be a model or don't. My vote is don't. 

[Alapaki]

1 hour ago, Irate Panda said:

ETA was reading another board and apparently I missed the part where Briana said she doesn't shower because of her balance...<throws hands up> I got nothin'

They muted out part of the sentence where Brianna said she didn't shower.  It may have actually been a voice-over because she might've been filmed from behind during that sentence iirc.  I had to watch a couple of times to make sure she was saying "don't shower" instead of "do shower".  Because . . . what?  

18 minutes ago, Nowhere said:

She made a mistake by turning down the edits for maxim. They edit everybody! Bodies, faces, everything is photoshopped. Be a model or don't. My vote is don't. 

It's worse than that.  She didn't turn down the edits "for maxim".  There never was a maxim photo-shoot or a deal for a maxim photo shoot.  There was just a photoshoot with a photographer whom either she or the show paid.  And the photographer did what any "professional" photographer would do in post-production.  What Brianna called an "a-chon mid-face" is so dramatic (look at her in profile, the area from her nose to her eyes is completely indented) that I'm sure it doesn't film well from any angle.

Once she was confronted with having to admit that she'd lied (or grossly overstated) about "having 'a Maxim' photoshoot", she tried to distract by claiming to take a little-people-activist stand.  If those photos were going to be in Maxim (with the photoshopping), she wouldn't have said a fucking word.  Instead she would've been waving that magazine in everyone's face.

26 minutes ago, Nowhere said:

They've probably all done things like that when they were starting out. 

Indeed.  When that conversation started, I turned to my wife and joked "who amongst us hasn't been an elf at Christmas?"  And, sure enough, that's exactly what one of them said.  

[Irate Panda]

51 minutes ago, Destiny74 said:

LOL!  So, why doesn't she take a bath?  Hell, a sponge bath in the sink would do if she took one a day.  

Wait a second.  She has enough balance to wear high heels for her "Maxim" photo shoot, but not enough to take a five minute shower.  I call bullshit on that one!

She could get one of those bath tubs old people get with the little door and built in seat so you don't fall or even get a kiddie pool and have away at it....Good lord I spend way too much thinking about this show.  If it as @Alapaki mentioned the sentence was muted/edited let's say she does shower I still give up because  her showers are not working.  I think Lifetime should pay us for our in depth analysis of this program.  We clearly put more effort into it than the producers.

[Nowhere]

1 hour ago, Irate Panda said:

She could get one of those bath tubs old people get with the little door and built in seat so you don't fall or even get a kiddie pool and have away at it....Good lord I spend way too much thinking about this show.  If it as @Alapaki mentioned the sentence was muted/edited let's say she does shower I still give up because  her showers are not working.  I think Lifetime should pay us for our in depth analysis of this program.  We clearly put more effort into it than the producers.

Do we really believe she smells that bad or do you think the women are exaggerating a couple of incidents? If she's that stinky how is she keeping a husband? Why have I seen her receive several pretty decent hugs by most of these women since season one? Who would want to go near her, much less hug her?. I don't know if I believe anything Terra and Tonya say, first of all. And second, all of them are mean girls and would love to humiliate Briana.

That said, if Briana smells like an infected gaping wound, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised. 

[kassa]

She might be more lazy about laundry than bathing. Face cloth swiping and regular laundry should be enough to remain socially presentable if you are conscientious. Who doesn't launder clothes before returning them? Even the mildest laundry detergent removes funk, even the fragrance free kind.

[Destiny74]

11 hours ago, kassa said:

She might be more lazy about laundry than bathing. Face cloth swiping and regular laundry should be enough to remain socially presentable if you are conscientious. Who doesn't launder clothes before returning them? Even the mildest laundry detergent removes funk, even the fragrance free kind.

That was another thought I had too.  Who borrows a shirt from a friend and returns it without freshly laundering it?  That's just the number one rule about borrowing things.  Even if it was dry clean only...take it to the dry cleaner.

Edited June 3, 2017 by Destiny74

[Irate Panda]

16 hours ago, Nowhere said:

Do we really believe she smells that bad or do you think the women are exaggerating a couple of incidents? If she's that stinky how is she keeping a husband? Why have I seen her receive several pretty decent hugs by most of these women since season one? Who would want to go near her, much less hug her?. I don't know if I believe anything Terra and Tonya say, first of all. And second, all of them are mean girls and would love to humiliate Briana.

That said, if Briana smells like an infected gaping wound, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised. 

I didn't really believe it when Terra said it because well it's Terra and Tonya is always going to agree with Terra unless it involves the logo for her ACTIVEWEAR!  It was Jasmine saying it that I thought it was probably true but I agree it might have more to do with the laundry. How the heck does she gets the clothes out of the washing machine unless she has the front facing kind.  Honestly, if it weren't this Terra would be griping about Brianna for something else until it was Christie's turn for Terra's wrath. Although I think it would take a lot more than  BO to make Matt leave.  Terra should spend more time worrying about Joe looking like he's going to topple over at any moment, but she's too busy airing other people's dirty laundry, literally and figuratively.

[Madding crowd]

The problem with the show is they are trying too hard to be like The Real Housewives without the wealth. I really can't stand any of them but I think Terra at least owns her bullshit and is doing it for her career. For example, Jasmine and Elena said she was a bad mother for going on DWTS, but if they had been offered the chance they would leave their kids in a minute to do it. On top of that, other contestants on DWTS have children too and sometimes you have to job opportunities when they arise. I also don't think writing a book means Terra is neglecting her children-I write and there are always chances when kids are asleep, with their dad, short bursts of time when they are with a babysitting etc-it is all jealously. I used to like Elena, but didn't like how mad she was after Terra invited her to the DWTS episode. Those people practice dancing 10-12 hours a day, Terra wasn't feeling well and she probably wanted to see her kids in the little off time she had.

I don't think Brianna should be on this show-she seems very anxious and damaged and is delusional about her getting book or modeling deals. I simply can't hold it against Terra for choosing to use the words 'fierce' in her title-Brianna does not have a book deal and never will. If she truly wants to write she should do it, but it seems her and Matt expect things to just drop in their lap. In regard to Jasmine-she is such a shit stirrer. She talks all sweet but always drops some bit of gossip that is guaranteed to start a fight "Aren't you upset that ..." She doesn't fool me with her sweet act. 

[kassa]

I forget the first time body odor came up (or second, because I noticed Tonya's reaction to whoever made the snide comment and thought "shoot, it really is a thing.")

Because she winced in a way that didn't read as " what are you talking about?" but as " yikes, are we going there on the show?" Jasmine responded similarly. If it weren't true somebody would have said "oh, she wasn't taking care of herself with the Matt stuff and the pregnancy, why are you making a federal case out of this?"  The problem must precede Matt or they'd blame him for it.