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Mind Your Surroundings: Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow and Other Superhero Universes

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apinknightmare
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I mean, I don't want her in a suit so it's not the "never" in this instance that bothers me, but Marc saying that Felicity specifically would make the notion of superheroics "silly." Why? In this show

Carrie Ann
Carrie Ann

And then someone tells him that what he did was okay because of reasons, or that he can't keep feeling guilty, he just has to move forward. Like, no, just...go ahead and feel really guilty for awhile?

SleepDeprived
SleepDeprived

Hey, now... Listen. The practice of proper etiquette during an impromptu wedding officiated by your best friend in a park, right after the funeral of a beloved colleague, is of the utmost importance,

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dtissagirl

There are a bunch of random actors I can't stand for no reason whatsoever, or for really stupid reasons. I just own it and try to avoid them as best as I can. Joseph Morgan from TVD/The Originals is probably my stupidest gratuitous hate -- I think his mouth moves in a super weird way when he speaks, so I hate him.

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Primal Slayer

Primal Slayer

Just now, apinknightmare said:

For anyone currently watching LoT, has the Laurel stuff been dealt with yet? I'm currently hate watching Grey's Anatomy, and am only flipping over during commercial breaks.

Yes. Sara can't save Laurel since the entire Lance family would just end up dead according to Rip. Lame reason, Sara's surprise presence would've made a big change.

And they just showed a new generic promo with Laurel in it.
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Delphi

Delphi

Sara showed back up to Starling,  during the time Lance was watching the coms last night and broke down and told her.   It was very well acted.  

 

Sara then tried to kill Rip. Awesome. 

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AyChihuahua

AyChihuahua

7 minutes ago, apinknightmare said:

For anyone currently watching LoT, has the Laurel stuff been dealt with yet? I'm currently hate watching Grey's Anatomy, and am only flipping over during commercial breaks.

In the original timeline,

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Laurel, Sara, and Quentin all died. So I guess if she saves Laurel, she and her dad die?

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nksarmi

nksarmi

Holy crap, they just flat out said there is a Justice Society of America in the future Flarrowverse!!!!!

My cross over dreams of Barry running to the future and meeting them just became a possibility!

(Also Sara and Lance made me tear up a little)

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kismet

kismet

Haha @wonderwall that's really upping the stakes.

On another note, if PB's time was limited in A422 because of LoT Finale, I'm glad now because those scenes were heartbreaking and genuine. They did do a better job of handling LL's death. From SL's initial response to the touching flower at the grave. All I have to say is thank you LoT for also removing time travel as option to bring LL back. Sad but sacrifices have to be made sometime.

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Sakura12

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The Hawks and Savage are gone!

Justice Society of America for Season 2 with Hourman. I didn't know he was a beloved character. Or maybe they meant the JS part is the beloved part? 

LoT did handle Laurel's death. I do like that Rip said if she saves her sister, her and Quentin die. And that's all it took for Sara to not save Laurel. 

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wonderwall

wonderwall

Just now, Sakura12 said:

LoT did handle Laurel's death. I do like that Rip said if she saves her sister, her and Quentin die. And that's all it took for Sara to not save Laurel. 

Laurel tied Sara up and chained her like an animal. I doubt it was a tough choice to make lol

2 minutes ago, kismet said:

Haha @wonderwall that's really upping the stakes.

If ya can't handle the heat then don't play the game. Just sayin' (I'm definitely mixing up 2 different phrases aren't I)

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Starfish35

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Lol.  You are.  But I'm enjoying the enthusiasm.  :)

Sounds like the finale gave me everything I wanted except a Snart resurrection, and I didn't really expect that, at least not so soon.

Who the heck is Hourman? *off to Wikipedia*

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kismet

kismet

Well if SL tried to save LL, all 3 would have died - so LL would be dead either way. There really was no choice to make.

Snart was in a bar in CC in 2013, so we did get to see him for a min or 2. Rory got to say good bye.

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nksarmi

nksarmi

11 minutes ago, kismet said:

So who wants to take bets that the BIG crossover is going to be Justice Society of America related?

I don't want to bet on it - but it is what I said would be the easiest way to do a four show cross over. They can have Kara be an Earth 1 Supergirl or Powergirl who arrived before Clark and is still too young herself to come out and cape up. I know that wouldn't be Supergirl's Kara but they can always have Barry and Oliver visit her later for a mini cross over.

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Sakura12

Sakura12

2 minutes ago, hogwash said:

Sara has chemistry with freaking everyone. I loved that scene between her and Rip. Really bad justification for not saving Laurel but I'm not picky.

Sara loves her dad more than Laurel. I agree with her choice. 

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Primal Slayer

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4 minutes ago, kismet said:

Well if SL tried to save LL, all 3 would have died - so LL would be dead either way. There really was no choice to make.

Snart was in a bar in CC in 2013, so we did get to see him for a min or 2. Rory got to say good bye.

That seemed to be in the original timeline. Had Rip dropped Sara off on day of the big event, probably would've been a lot different.

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AyChihuahua

AyChihuahua

Just now, Starfish35 said:

So am I understanding correctly that Rip's family did not get saved after all?  

That is accurate, and he and Savage had a TRULY awful scene in which Savage threw that in his face. Maybe the worst acting (from the Savage guy) I have ever seen on a network show.

3 minutes ago, Primal Slayer said:

That seemed to be in the original timeline. Had Rip dropped Sara off on day of the big event, probably would've been a lot different.

He said he knew, whatever that means, that it was going to go bad, even if he sent her with the whole team.

Laurel's dead, dead, superdead, couldn't be more deaddeaddead.

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Sakura12

Sakura12

Well at least they admitted they had no idea what to do with Hawkgirl. She was so useless. I'm fine with them getting rid of all three weak links in one fell swoop. Hopefully they do better in the casting of the new characters. 

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quarks

quarks

So not only did the Arrowverse's favorite staircase just show up on The 100, it featured a fight scene!

It's going to be in one of the first five episodes of Supergirl. Calling that now.

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Primal Slayer

Primal Slayer

They made the characters so 1-note anyway that it isn't a surprise that they wouldn't be inspired to write for them. They had Kendras entire story revolve around Carter instead of making it about her and embracing the characters very interesting history or JLAnimated history of being a spy sent to Earth.

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Carrie Ann

Carrie Ann

Well, that explains why there were no Hawks in the sizzle reel. I had a feeling, but I'm really glad they did that. I wish more shows would be so quick to drop their dead weight characters.

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nksarmi

nksarmi

I really, really wanted to like Kendra. Carter was always too blah. But I was so willing to try for her. Then they put her with Ray and I was still willing to try because she was all "I will choose my own fate" and the nope. I hope they do a much better job with the next woman they cast/introduce because I'm almost at the point where I'm ok with this just being a boys club with Sara in charge.

I can still get my strong girl fix on Supergirl.

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tennisgurl

tennisgurl

Legends just got rid of the Hawks AND Savage! Oh happy day! The worst parts of the show are gone. They have trimmed what was not working, and kept what was working (except for Snart, who I will forever miss, but he will be coming back from time to time at least, and will be back on The Flash at least), and seem to be heading into a really interesting direction. Good job show. More shows in this verse need to know when to cut lose what is not working.

Plus, this was the first time I really felt the death of Laurel. Sara and her grief and her scenes with Quentin were very well done. It actually got me a little teary over Laurel. Worked a million times better than the awkward stuff on The Flash. 

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thegirlsleuth

thegirlsleuth

In the press release they put out this morning about the next season of LoT, they included Hawkgirl in the cast (they also included Captain Cold which I hand waved because he's supposed to be a floater possibly).  Obviously I understand why they might lie about her inclusion, but it now makes me wonder if everyone listed in the Arrow press release will appear next season.

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Sakura12

Sakura12

The Hawks could still show up in Season 2. I'm just happy they are no longer a main part of the show. They got rid of their weak links early on, maybe they are finally learning. 

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thegirlsleuth

thegirlsleuth

I do wonder about Willa and Paul Blackthorne, mostly because I feel like their stories could be tied up in very final ways at the end of the season.  With both daughters gone from the show, Paul's ties are especially weak.

Or maybe they're going to off Emily and bring Earth-2 Laurel over from the Flash to be the new Black Canary, thereby ensuring her one true pairing with Green Arrow.

I'm KIDDING.

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quarks

quarks

Yeah, they left things so that they could bring the Hawks back for a few guest spots, the way Arrow brought Roy and Katana back this year, but they don't have to.

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NumberCruncher

NumberCruncher

2 hours ago, AyChihuahua said:

That's the thing, he's a perfectly fine actor. I think he kind of oozes douchey arrogance, but he is a fine actor. It's not him, it's me.

I don't think it's you.  I met him at SL Comic Con last year and found him to be rather cold and aloof which caught me by surprise because I had seen so many interviews and gifsets where he was cute and friendly.  He was the exact opposite in person.  I'm not a terribly outgoing person myself so I can't decide if he's just a normally reserved person or if he really didn't give a crap about being there but I'm not going to lie--it was a bit disappointing that he couldn't even bother to look up from signing his autograph to say "hi".

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