SuperNormal: Public Appearances, Tweets, Media And Other Social Media Of The SPN Cast

[DittyDotDot]

52 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

ETA: I've heard him talk about Deadpool but not GotG.

Guardians of the Galaxy was back before Jensen started being more open at cons as he has the last couple years. I remember all the talk about it over at TWoP a the time and as I recall they really wanted Jensen and it was a done deal, but there were lots of scheduling conflicts. Not only with Supernatural, but if I remember right, it was when Daneel was pregnant with JJ. But, the talk at the time was the job was Jensen's if he could make himself available.

[Aeryn13]

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I think because Jensen hasn't done anything but Supernatural for a few years now people assume no one knows his name or thinks of him for roles, I think this shows there are people out there running shows who do know who Jensen is. And, I think Jensen will be able to easily go on and do something after Supernatural if he so desires. 

That depends. At a certain point, if you`re never available, people will stop considering you in the first place. Now if that point already has passed, I don`t know. Undoubtedly both Jensen and his management are aware of it and he still keeps signing on for SPN so there is that. He is lucky to be a man because as Jeffrey Dean Morgan and others have proved, you can have a late start for a pretty good career still. Actresses have it much harder in that regard.

I only know that if I were in his management, I would have probably taken poison after the GOTG thing. Like, OMG. But good for Chris Pratt, he managed to go A-list from it.            

[Pondlass1]

With that talent (and that bone structure) Jensen's career can take him right into old age.  He's got years left as leading man status.  I, personally, hope he doesn't go into a super hero movie after Supernatural.  They take ages to film and he'd be on screen about 15 minutes - and if they put a mask on him... well, I'll riot in the streets.  

I'd rather he move to a Netflix series or HBO series or something like that where his acting talent can be showcased.

But that's just me.  Not a fan of super hero and special effects films.

I am convinced Jensen's name appears at the top of many casting directors' lists. They're waiting for Supernatural to die.

[Aeryn13]

For the most part I love superhero and genre films. Some of them are much deeper than people might give them credit for. However, if you are up for a major role, they lock you down for a multi-year deal which can both be a good or a bad thing, depending on what opportunities that might bring or curtail.

HBO, I can`t see happening because IMO Jensen is clearly not someone comfortable doing excessive nudity or sexual shots. Netflix, possibly. Personally, I would hope for another genre project, mainly because I`m interested in those the most but I can see how someone coming off of years of such a show would like to do the polar opposite.  

[MysteryGuest]

20 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

With that talent (and that bone structure) Jensen's career can take him right into old age.  He's got years left as leading man status.  I, personally, hope he doesn't go into a super hero movie after Supernatural.  They take ages to film and he'd be on screen about 15 minutes - and if they put a mask on him... well, I'll riot in the streets.  

I'd rather he move to a Netflix series or HBO series or something like that where his acting talent can be showcased.

But that's just me.  Not a fan of super hero and special effects films.

I am convinced Jensen's name appears at the top of many casting directors' lists. They're waiting for Supernatural to die.

I'm with you.  I really have no interest in some superhero role for Jensen.  HBO or Netflix would be great, mainly  I'd love to see what he could do with great writing.  I'm not sure he'd want to sign up for some regular series television again, at least not right away.  It's a grind, and being away from the family all the time is hard.  But if he could do something short, something like Big Little Lies that was only 7 episodes...I'd love that!

[Pondlass1]

4 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Big Little Lies that was only 7 episodes...I'd love that!

Off topic but I really enjoyed BLL too.  Great writing.  Great acting.  Hope it returns.

I do agree, tho, that I get the impression that (although not a prude in any sense) Jensen's not keen on sex and romance roles.

[MysteryGuest]

6 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I do agree, tho, that I get the impression that (although not a prude in any sense) Jensen's not keen on sex and romance roles.

I think if the part were good enough, he'd take it, as long as it weren't too gratuitous.  He looked pretty uncomfortable in some of his early stuff, but I think he's more relaxed about many things now.  Shades of Gray crap, no, but I don't know that he's against some sort of relationship drama.  I think the issue with Supernatural is that the show isn't about relationships, so showing the boys shirtless all the time would be strictly for objectification reasons, and I get why they'd be uncomfortable with that.  

[The Morning Star]

1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

Off topic but I really enjoyed BLL too.  Great writing.  Great acting.  Hope it returns.

I do agree, tho, that I get the impression that (although not a prude in any sense) Jensen's not keen on sex and romance roles.

Kinda OT but I never understood why in today's society being prude is considered a negative trait.

One of the main reasons I like Jensen Ackles is that he's a guy with standards and in today's overly sexualized movie/TV show environment it's breath of fresh air knowing there is still good looking guys like Ackles who wouldn't like to whore themselves out on tv whenever they could because it's "cool" and the new social standard.

[Aeryn13]

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I think if the part were good enough, he'd take it, as long as it weren't too gratuitous.  He looked pretty uncomfortable in some of his early stuff, but I think he's more relaxed about many things now.

I still couldn`t see things like Game of Thrones or Rome or True Blood. Raunchy doesn`t always have to mean super-crappy like Fifty Shades but IMO those things are not up his alley. For example I like James Purefoy but staring at his full frontal for a good five minutes on Rome was kinda awkward. And it wasn`t even a sexualized scene. He just stood there nude without a care in the world. Not in Jensen`s comfort zone, I think.    

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One of the main reasons I like Jensen Ackles is that he's a guy with standards and in today's overly sexualized movie/TV show environment it's breath of fresh air knowing there is still good looking guys like Ackles who wouldn't like to whore themselves out on tv whenever they could because it's "cool" and the new social standard.

I don`t think actors on HBO shows "whore themselves out" for example. I have no problem with either, actors who decline such roles and actors who embrace them. 

[The Morning Star]

23 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

I still couldn`t see things like Game of Thrones or Rome or True Blood. Raunchy doesn`t always have to mean super-crappy like Fifty Shades but IMO those things are not up his alley. For example I like James Purefoy but staring at his full frontal for a good five minutes on Rome was kinda awkward. And it wasn`t even a sexualized scene. He just stood there nude without a care in the world. Not in Jensen`s comfort zone, I think.    

I don`t think actors on HBO shows "whore themselves out" for example. I have no problem with either, actors who decline such roles and actors who embrace them. 

I didn't know HBO made shows.....

Most of what I've seen resembles softcore and at times hardcore Pornography.

I have a general problem with today's TV and Movie environment, you can't have male and female characters interact anymore without some sort of "Romantic" (Sexual angle) unless they are blood And even that is slowly becoming another "outdated" limitation that we need to get rid of.

A few years ago at least you were content that two same sex human beings were able to interact with no sexual Angle and now today, because everything is an election and everybody must feel included even two dudes or gals cannot inhibit the same space without a hint of sexual Angle or irrational fans forcing their illogical shipping down everyone's throats.

 

So yeah, I truly believe today "whoring" out on Televesion has become a virtue and being prude has become a negative attribute for losers.

[ILoveReading]

In one of Jensen's meet and greets (I think it was Asylum) he confirmed that it was Ajax he was offered the role of.  It was a done deal if the scheduling could have been worked out.  It's too bad it couldn't because I liked the character and I think Jensen would be a fantastic bad guy.  I have my fingers crossed (odd are slim to none, I know) that maybe SPN will be done or in shorter seasons for Guardians of The Galaxy 3.  Jensen would be perfect to play Adam. 

As for Fifty Shades of Grey, IIRC, Jensen said the producer of the movie actually drove to his house to talk to him.   So glad that didn't work out, because that is one role I'd have no interest in watching him in.

[MysteryGuest]

2 hours ago, Aeryn13 said:

I still couldn`t see things like Game of Thrones or Rome or True Blood. Raunchy doesn`t always have to mean super-crappy like Fifty Shades but IMO those things are not up his alley. For example I like James Purefoy but staring at his full frontal for a good five minutes on Rome was kinda awkward. And it wasn`t even a sexualized scene. He just stood there nude without a care in the world. Not in Jensen`s comfort zone, I think.    

Well, he watches Game of Thrones, we know that much.  I agree though that nude scenes would not be his thing, but I really wasn't thinking about that when discussing what I'd like to see him in.  Something like Bloodlines, for example.  No nudity (that I can remember), but just well written, interesting characters.  I think you can still portray adult situations without the need for gratuitous nudity.  Nicole Kidman was the only one nude in Big Little Lies, and honestly, if they hadn't gone there I don't think it would have made that big a difference.  

[catrox14]

2 hours ago, The Morning Star said:

I didn't know HBO made shows.....

Most of what I've seen resembles softcore and at times hardcore Pornography.

Sounds like you're confusing HBO and Skinemax (Cinemax).

HBO has always featured nudity and sexual content as part of their prestige programming but IMO it's not overly gratuitous in most cases, iMO.  It really comes down to the intent of the sexuality and nudity as to whether it's gratuitous or not. My main gripe is that the men on GoT are not nude as often as the women and that makes it seem more imbalanced and gratuitous. 

I don't know where the idea that Jensen is against nudity and sexuality in film nor TV is coming from. I've only ever seen him openly complain about one film and that was Devour, which he said ended up being quite different during filming than what he signed on to do. I don't know if he was referring to the sex scene or that there was some incestuous overtones to the film.  He had no problem with his sex scenes with Anna and the Amazon. I've never heard him remark that he regretted doing 'Blonde'. 

Jensen has mentioned before that he loves Game of Thrones and he said that David Nutter told him if he wants on the show he will make it happen. Unfortunately, Nutter doesn't seem to be attached to GoT anymore, but he is working on Shameless on Showtime. Jensen joked about Game of Thrones being the show where a bunch of naked guys are fighting each other which I'm pretty sure he confused with Spartacus, either intentionally or as a joke.

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[Aeryn13]

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I don't know where the idea that Jensen is against nudity and sexuality in film nor TV is coming from

I don`t think he looks down on it or anything and he doesn`t appear to have any problems doing "normal" romantic or sexual scenes. But I flat-out do not see him as an actor who would do full frontal nudity shots in a project. 

[Binns]

Mark seems less bitter- 

 

https://storify.com/SPN_sil/mark-sheppard-panel-at-spnphx-2017

[MysteryGuest]

I'm glad he seems to be doing better, but it still makes me sad.  I agree that they haven't had anything of interest for him to do for a few seasons now, but they haven't for Cas, either.  I just don't really agree that the characters stories are over, I personally think the writers just aren't good enough to come up with anything.  And again, how they think Lucifer is actually more interesting than Crowley is beyond me.  

[catrox14]

8 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

I'm glad he seems to be doing better, but it still makes me sad.  I agree that they haven't had anything of interest for him to do for a few seasons now, but they haven't for Cas, either.  I just don't really agree that the characters stories are over, I personally think the writers just aren't good enough to come up with anything.  And again, how they think Lucifer is actually more interesting than Crowley is beyond me.  

I think Mark is being magnanimous. This doesn't really give me hope anymore that Castiel is going to last until the end s13.

[Wayward Son]

3 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I think Mark is being magnanimous. This doesn't really give me hope anymore that Castiel is going to last until the end s13.

Yep he came off to me as very clear that anyone not named Sam and Dean are rather expendable. Then again, even as a Cas fan,  I've never bought the idea Cas / Misha have an automatic free pass until the end of the series like many fans seem to believe.

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[MysteryGuest]

3 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I think Mark is being magnanimous. This doesn't really give me hope anymore that Castiel is going to last until the end s13.

But how many times are they going to "kill" Castiel before it becomes completely ridiculous?  I think they've reached that point already, frankly.  I also still think that Misha is much too popular with the majority of the fan base for them to really get rid of him.  They may try switching things up a bit next season to see how the fans take to that, because they can always put Cas back to normal if the reception to "not quite Cas" is less than positive.  But I think killing him would cause a major backlash.  

This past finale proved that, IMO.  After the episode aired, people were hysterical that everyone had been killed, but once we learned that Cas would be back, things pretty much quieted down.  I believe there would have been a much bigger reaction to Crowley's death, if they hadn't made everyone panic about Castiel.  Maybe that was their plan all along.  Take the impact out of Crowley's death by upping the ante with Cas' death.  Then let it slip that Cas would be back, so fans would be so relieved they wouldn't bitch too much about getting rid of Mark.  It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[rue721]

UO alert:

I know that the "even when I lose, I win" line is dear to Mark's heart because of his campaign, but I'm glad that they cut it. It's a pretty irresponsible line for a character to commit suicide to onscreen IMO, because it glorifies suicide and makes it sound like a courageous/strategic/smart decision.

If this were a different show, if this were Bates Motel or Breaking Bad or something, maybe that would still be OK -- but IRB this isn't an especially dark or especially mature show (said with love), and the fans as a group are especially sensitive to mental health and anti-suicide awareness because of various other fan/BTS-related stuff (like the Always Keep Fighting campaign); and, given the givens, I just don't think it would have been appropriate.

Also, in a less meta sense, Crowley's death was actually meaningless in the end, and it didn't actually trap Lucifer in the AU (which TBH I'm fine with. Shit happens and plans don't work out. I think that's fine and reasonably good storytelling. YMMV), so it would have ended up being incorrect anyway.

Anyway, I don't want to judge anybody because I have no idea what went down to precipitate this break between SPN and Mark Sheppard (and NDAs make it vanishingly unlikely that anyone outside the show ever will IMO), but I maybe kind of need a break from MS for the moment. I liked him as Crowley, but I have found this split between him and the show so graceless on both sides that I am not at my warmest toward him. Just being real. Maybe this is how he always is at cons, but reading those tweets rubbed me the wrong way a little. Eh.

[catrox14]

10 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

his past finale proved that, IMO.  After the episode aired, people were hysterical that everyone had been killed, but once we learned that Cas would be back, things pretty much quieted dow

I know I talked myself into believing it's not Cas, but that might be the fake out and he dies...like before the mid-season finale. I mean they did it in the s7 premiere instead of at the end of s6. That saves a lot of Cas/Misha fans from bailing during the Hellatus. I can see that happening all over again since Dabb just keeps repurposing old plots for 'Nostalgia' only they flip it   and Cas stays dead. Permanently.

spoilers for s13

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Yes I know

I know Jared screwed up but we really don't know what was true and what wasn't at this point. That Scooby Ep doesn't mean that Misha will be around for the  episodes prior to that one and Misha might not even be voicing Cas in that episode either. 

[DittyDotDot]

I'm glad to see Mark has moved past his wallowing--or as he put it, "bitchy moany"--phase. This wears a bit better on him, IMO.

As to the line, I understand he liked the line, but, TBH, I don't think it was needed. In fact I thought he did say it, but apparently it was just heavily implied. Which I think is better anyway.

45 minutes ago, rue721 said:

Maybe this is how he always is at cons, but reading those tweets rubbed me the wrong way a little. Eh.

@SueB put it best, Mark is mercurial in temperament. I find, with Mark, you really do need to see and hear him, there's a lot in his mannerisms and intonation that doesn't come across in the reading. But, yeah, this is pretty much how Mark is. He'll give a absolutely deep and brilliant answer and then tell the next person they asked a stupid question, but with a smirk and a glean in his eye. 

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[catrox14]

5 minutes ago, rue721 said:

I know that the "even when I lose, I win" line is dear to Mark's heart because of his campaign, but I'm glad that they cut it. It's a pretty irresponsible line for a character to commit suicide to onscreen IMO, because it glorifies suicide and makes it sound like a courageous/strategic/smart decision.

This is probably better in a different thread but since you bring it up my question is:  what is considered a self-sacrifice for the greater good and what is suicide?  Crowley didn't kill himself just to do it. Crowley chose to kill himself to save the world from Lucifer, so I don't think the line is a problem in that case.  I see it as the same as Sam saying yes to Lucifer in s5. It was entirely possible that eventually Sam was going to die in Hell or be killed by Michael and/or Lucifer at some point. Heck the show had Sam say that Dean was going to kill himself by saying yes to Michael, yet the intention was to save the world as best they knew how at that point. Was that really any different than Crowley sacrificing himself to put Lucifer on permanent lockdown in the AU? 

9 minutes ago, DittyDotDot said:

As to the line, I understand he liked the line, but, TBH, I don't think it was needed. In fact I thought he did say it, but apparently it was just heavily implied. Which I think is better anyway.

If he had never tweeted that the line was written, would you have still thought it was implied? I mean I wouldn't have even thought about it if he hadn't said something.,

Not arguing, just curious.

[DittyDotDot]

4 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

If he had never tweeted that the line was written, would you have still thought it was implied? I mean I wouldn't have even thought about it if he hadn't said something.,

Not arguing, just curious.

Yes. In fact, when he tweeted that, my first response was, he didn't say it? I believe I even posted that here. So, yeah, I think it comes across just fine that Crowley was doing it to win. That's who Crowley is and always has been. Never crossed my mind he was sacrificing himself for any other reason, TBH.

[catrox14]

Just now, DittyDotDot said:

Yes. In fact, when he tweeted that, my first response was, he didn't say it? I believe I even posted that here. So, yeah, I think it comes across just fine that Crowley was doing it to win. That's who Crowley is and always has been. Never crossed my mind he was sacrificing himself for any other reason, TBH.

I know that's what you posted.

Is it more than in retrospect you can see that being something Crowley would say but if Mark had never said the line existed, how would you get 'Even when I lose, I win" as an implied outcome vs Crowley just doing something to help the boys because he really does like them. It's hard to explain what I'm getting at.

35 minutes ago, rue721 said:

Anyway, I don't want to judge anybody because I have no idea what went down to precipitate this break between SPN and Mark Sheppard (and NDAs make it vanishingly unlikely that anyone outside the show ever will IMO), but I maybe kind of need a break from MS for the moment. I liked him as Crowley, but I have found this split between him and the show so graceless on both sides that I am not at my warmest toward him. Just being real. Maybe this is how he always is at cons, but reading those tweets rubbed me the wrong way a little. Eh.

I don't think any thing went down that precipitated Mark's departure. He said that Crowley's character arc had run it's course in s11 really. I don't think he asked out but I think he expected maybe something to happen with Crowley but then he got tied up with Lucifer and it was repetitive. 

I think if there is any kind of break from the show, IMO, that's between Mark and the showrunners and nothing to do with the rest of the cast. 

[DittyDotDot]

6 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I know that's what you posted.

Is it more than in retrospect you can see that being something Crowley would say but if Mark had never said the line existed, how would you get 'Even when I lose, I win" as an implied outcome vs Crowley just doing something to help the boys because he really does like them. It's hard to explain what I'm getting at.

Probably because Lucifer and Crowely were talking about winning and losing and Crowley being Crowley, he never does anything that's not in his own self interest. Crowley may have affection for Sam and Dean, but he didn't do it for them and it never crossed my mind he would.

I actually have a distinct memory of Crowley saying "Even when I lose, I win." Which, on rewatch, I realize I just made up in my head. But, I had it before Mark tweeted about the line. 

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[rue721]

21 minutes ago, DittyDotDot said:

He'll give a absolutely deep and brilliant answer and then tell the next person they asked a stupid question, but with a smirk and a glean in his eye. 

Man, I don't really like that. YMMV of course. Just a matter of taste.

Teasing is all well and good, but IMO it's not really teasing when the person doesn't know you and when you don't really have free reign to respond (b/c he's the performer and you're an audience member, for example).

I guess I just have too much of a chip on my shoulder for that shit. My immediate response is, are you coming at me? Why are you trying to fuck with me in front of everyone? What did I ever do to you? Probably not the best way to be, but...I dunno.

I guess his fans aren't so generally so self-serious & uppity :P

*shaking it off* Trying to cut the guy a break, though.

[catrox14]

1 minute ago, rue721 said:

Man, I don't really like that. YMMV of course. Just a matter of taste.

Teasing is all well and good, but IMO it's not really teasing when the person doesn't know you and when you don't really have free reign to respond (b/c he's the performer and you're an audience member, for example).

I guess I just have too much of a chip on my shoulder for that shit. My immediate response is, are you coming at me? Why are you trying to fuck with me in front of everyone? What did I ever do to you? Probably not the best way to be, but...I dunno.

I guess his fans aren't so generally so self-serious & uppity :P

*shaking it off* Trying to cut the guy a break, though.

I think fans that go to Mark's panels know that is his schtick and they more or less expect it.

6 minutes ago, DittyDotDot said:

Probably because Lucifer and Crowely were talking about winning and losing and Crowley being Crowley, he never does anything that's not in his own self interest. Crowley may have affection for Sam and Dean, but he didn't do it for them and it never crossed my mind he would.

I actually have a distinct memory of Crowley saying "Even when I lose, I win." Which, on rewatch, I realize I just made up in my head. But, I had it before Mark tweeted about the line. 

Well, that is prescient!

(or did you just out yourself as a person from SPN who knew this line had been written! DUN DUN DUN!) 

[DittyDotDot]

1 minute ago, rue721 said:

Teasing is all well and good, but IMO it's not really teasing when the person doesn't know you and when you don't really have free reign to respond (b/c he's the performer and you're an audience member, for example).

That's why I say you need to see and hear him. If you see his mannerisms and hear his intonation, you can see he's teasing, but just reading it--depending on your own leanings--you wouldn't get that. I think the fact that Mark is hard to pin down is probably what draws most people to his panels. Some people like a mystery.

[MysteryGuest]

I have to say that I've tried to watch a few of Mark's panels in the past, and they normally just leave me frustrated. He never answers a question.  Even when he's been part of a joint panel with other cast members, he's always straying off the main topic.  I enjoy the character Crowley, I respect Mark as an actor, and we share the same political beliefs, so I'm pre-disposed to like him, but I doubt I'd pay to see him talk.  I don't mind kidding around, but I do like to hear answers to the actual questions.

[The Morning Star]

15 hours ago, catrox14 said:

Sounds like you're confusing HBO and Skinemax (Cinemax).

HBO has always featured nudity and sexual content as part of their prestige programming but IMO it's not overly gratuitous in most cases, iMO.  It really comes down to the intent of the sexuality and nudity as to whether it's gratuitous or not. My main gripe is that the men on GoT are not nude as often as the women and that makes it seem more imbalanced and gratuitous. 

I don't know where the idea that Jensen is against nudity and sexuality in film nor TV is coming from. I've only ever seen him openly complain about one film and that was Devour, which he said ended up being quite different during filming than what he signed on to do. I don't know if he was referring to the sex scene or that there was some incestuous overtones to the film.  He had no problem with his sex scenes with Anna and the Amazon. I've never heard him remark that he regretted doing 'Blonde'. 

Jensen has mentioned before that he loves Game of Thrones and he said that David Nutter told him if he wants on the show he will make it happen. Unfortunately, Nutter doesn't seem to be attached to GoT anymore, but he is working on Shameless on Showtime. Jensen joked about Game of Thrones being the show where a bunch of naked guys are fighting each other which I'm pretty sure he confused with Spartacus, either intentionally or as a joke.

Let's talk GOT for example, these are some of the scenes I remember from the show:

Emila Clarke getting penetrated from behind by Jason Momoa .

Some dude I can't remember teaching two girls how to lick and drool over each other.

A couple of dudes having sex.

Somebody getting a blowjob and ect ect.

Shows like Game Of Thrones are the fantasy of a hormoned up 16 years old Boy, tons of sex, nudity and violence and all of them for the sake of Nudity and sex and violence as opposed to serving a purpose in telling story.

 

What I've seen and heard from Ackles so far suggests he has a set of standards and rules, perhaps an appearance in a show like GOT would give it a mere minute of something that resembles a show.

[Aeryn13]

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Shows like Game Of Thrones are the fantasy of a hormoned up 16 years old Boy

If said boy also dreams about complex political maneuvering, then I`d agree. And the sex and violence serve to establish the world the characters live in as violent and somewhat decadent. Sure, some of it may be gratuitous but not the entirety. And I`m not even a big fan of it but the writing is miles better than it is on SPN. 

So IMO if that is the yardstick, IMO Jensen is currently on something that only resembles a show. 

[The Morning Star]

28 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

If said boy also dreams about complex political maneuvering, then I`d agree. And the sex and violence serve to establish the world the characters live in as violent and somewhat decadent. Sure, some of it may be gratuitous but not the entirety. And I`m not even a big fan of it but the writing is miles better than it is on SPN. 

So IMO if that is the yardstick, IMO Jensen is currently on something that only resembles a show. 

I'd argue the opposite.

The children in charge of this show maybe too incompetent today but we complain that these writers kill characters to "shock" us in the finale every now and yet, that's GOT on a normal day.

I'm sorry but introducing busses full of characters only to kill them and replace them with another buss full of characters in 2 episodes is no "good writing".

I'm also unable to see the complex political maneuvering that you speak of, All I've seen so far has been molten gold/silver, behadings, lots of blood and sex.

[Icarus]

Hmmm Game of Thrones is based on a series of books which are extremely well written and the show follows the main themes of what is written in the books.  It is much easier to write sex and violence in a book than show it on the screen so sorry but I strongly disagree that it is written for 16 year olds as said above it is a fantasy world and is a very violent one.  I enjoyed the books myself but after the first series gave up on the tv series as I also found it difficult to watch rather than read.

[The Morning Star]

11 minutes ago, Icarus said:

Hmmm Game of Thrones is based on a series of books which are extremely well written and the show follows the main themes of what is written in the books.  It is much easier to write sex and violence in a book than show it on the screen so sorry but I strongly disagree that it is written for 16 year olds as said above it is a fantasy world and is a very violent one.  I enjoyed the books myself but after the first series gave up on the tv series as I also found it difficult to watch rather than read.

I did not say it was written for 16 years olds, I said the show is the fantasy of hormoned up 16 year old boys, whether or not you like the said fantasy who am I to say you should or shouldn't like something.

It's just that because it entertains you for whatever reason, doesn't make it a well written piece of political philosophy.

Let's just not pretend it is something more than what it actually is.

[Aeryn13]

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It's just that because it entertains you for whatever reason, doesn't make it a well written piece of political philosophy.

Let's just not pretend it is something more than what it actually is.

Taking it over to the Supernatural Smackdown thread.

Edited June 11, 2017 by Aeryn13

[MysteryGuest]

Just watched the Phoenix con, and Jensen and Jared are definitely making noises about the end of the show.  Jared again mentioned episode 300, and Jensen was asking whether any other CW shows do 23 episodes.  So, maybe it's possible they could be convinced to continue past 300, if the network agreed to the option of a much shorter season, but I'm not sure that's going to happen.  I know it has to end eventually, but I'll be sad when it does.

[Binns]

33 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Just watched the Phoenix con, and Jensen and Jared are definitely making noises about the end of the show.  Jared again mentioned episode 300, and Jensen was asking whether any other CW shows do 23 episodes.  So, maybe it's possible they could be convinced to continue past 300, if the network agreed to the option of a much shorter season, but I'm not sure that's going to happen.  I know it has to end eventually, but I'll be sad when it does.

Jared has been saying that  a while...so a full season 13 and partial 14 + a movie...but recently he's been talking about small mini seasons on Netflix too. I'll hate to see it end, even with my frustrations with the writers. 

[MysteryGuest]

If they could get Netflix to buy into the mini seasons idea, that would be very cool.  

[Pondlass1]

Are there good YouTube videos up already for Phoenix?  Fans are awesome.  I'm off to check...

[DittyDotDot]

40 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

Are there good YouTube videos up already for Phoenix?  Fans are awesome.  I'm off to check...

Here's links to the Stageit vids. I haven't watched them yet, but started Jared and Jensen's. I don't know, sometimes I really get into them and sometimes I just can't. And, unfortunately Mark Sheppard opted out of the live streaming. I'm not finding any videos of him yet. I'm sure they'll crop up sooner or later, though. ;)

J2 Panel:

 

Misha's Panel:

 

Brianna and Kim:

 

Ruth:

 

Jim Beaver:

 

Rachael Miner:

Edited June 12, 2017 by DittyDotDot

[Pondlass1]

Hey, thanks @DittyDotDot 

[catrox14]

Edited June 12, 2017 by catrox14

[Wayward Son]

26 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

<333 J2M! 

[catrox14]

Just now, Wayward Son said:

<333 J2M! 

I love their pose. It totally screams 'Come at us, haters! You wanna mess with us and our LGBTQ friends and family, you got another thing coming!"

I LOVE IT!

[catrox14]

LOL, Misha!

This is design is really pretty funny. You have to look closely to see the changes.

 

[catrox14]

[FlickChick]

Did you notice that Misha spells it "Cas". Yeah, Misha LOL

[catrox14]

6 minutes ago, FlickChick said:

Did you notice that Misha spells it "Cas". Yeah, Misha LOL

Hee.

[Wayward Son]

52 minutes ago, FlickChick said:

Did you notice that Misha spells it "Cas". Yeah, Misha LOL

Us Cas spellers have worn him down and converted him to the light ;)