The Crazed Spruce November 17, 2017 Share November 17, 2017 Quote Madani and Sam plan a delicate operation. Curtis tries to connect with Lewis, and Frank encourages Micro to get his hands dirty. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 18, 2017 Share November 18, 2017 This was really good. I loved watching Micro/Castle work together and I was shocked when the truck slammed into the Van. There's a part of me that worries Micro is going to lose it and become very dangerous to himself/Frank/the world. 2 Link to comment
JustaPerson November 18, 2017 Share November 18, 2017 "We speak Farsi at home" And yet all of Dinah's scenes with her mom are in English... 4 Link to comment
AimingforYoko November 19, 2017 Share November 19, 2017 3 hours ago, JustaPerson said: And yet all of Dinah's scenes with her mom are in English... Nah, all Netflix shows are equipped with a babel fish. Ebon Moss-Bachrach is killing it as Micro. 4 Link to comment
thuganomics85 November 19, 2017 Share November 19, 2017 Good old Turk! I love how he keeps kicking around no matter which infamous characters he crosses paths with (and gets his ass beaten by.) Micro watching Sarah/his wife clearly crushing on Frank was all kinds of messed up. Since it looks like Lewis won't be joining Russo and his Anvil group, I continue to wonder what is going on with him. I'm worried for Curtis now that Lewis knows he was the one that talked Russo out of it. Not exactly Dinah's best first mission as the boss, but at least she's still alive! But I'm guessing they are setting it up for no one to believe her when she tries to tell everyone that it was Frank who was behind the hijacking. 1 Link to comment
peach November 19, 2017 Share November 19, 2017 I made it through 4 episodes, but I cannot get into this. I was led to believe there would be Punishing in this series. Instead, it's ham-handed messaging, and it's boring. 4 Link to comment
benteen November 21, 2017 Share November 21, 2017 (edited) Awesome car chase on the end and I agree that Ebon Moss-Bachrach is killing it as Micro. His getting into Frank's face by telling him that he got his hands dirty was a perfect reaction. Frank also has really good chemistry with Micro's wife. I'll say one thing about Billy Russo, he really know how to give a great sales pitch to his potential employees. Turk was pretty funny in his scene but Comic Frank definitely would have blown Turk's brains all over that shipping container. Edited November 21, 2017 by benteen 3 Link to comment
Ottis November 22, 2017 Share November 22, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 11:18 AM, peach said: I made it through 4 episodes, but I cannot get into this. I was led to believe there would be Punishing in this series. Instead, it's ham-handed messaging, and it's boring. I'm bored, too. What is Frank even doing? He just seems to wander from scene to scene. I thought he was more driven than this. 2 Link to comment
peach November 23, 2017 Share November 23, 2017 22 hours ago, Ottis said: I'm bored, too. What is Frank even doing? He just seems to wander from scene to scene. I thought he was more driven than this. He was more driven. It's like he was a totally different character in Daredevil, which I loved. When I heard he was getting his own series, I wondered if it would work, because maybe he would be best as the spice, not the main course. And now they've changed him into something non-Punisher-like. What is even the point? And I couldn't care less about this Dinah character. The Punisher has always been my college son's favorite comic character, and he also gave up on this. 1 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 24, 2017 Share November 24, 2017 (edited) I'm the same I made it through 4 episodes where I was nodding off during most of it. I don't even know if I'll finish the series, I finished Iron Fist mostly because the supporting characters were interesting. No one is interesting on this show and it's boring. That is not a good combination to keep me watching. Then again I was never as enamored with the Punisher on Daredevil as some others. I liked him well enough and thought he was a good foil to Daredevil, I didn't miss when him when the show switched focus to other storylines. Also considering the traffic here, it doesn't look like the Punisher works for everyone. Edited November 24, 2017 by Sakura12 1 Link to comment
MisterGlass November 26, 2017 Share November 26, 2017 I didn't read Punisher comics, so all I have to go on is a cheesy movie and the Daredevil eps, but this is the episode where I knew I was invested in what happens next. I like this slow burn drama, and it has me guessing. I also like that they are spending real time on side characters. I know it's going to end in tears with Lewis, but it's hard to predict how. In some ways this has more in common with Jessica Jones that with the other Marvel series in that it is as much about the tortured characters as it is about action. 8 Link to comment
Chicago Redshirt November 27, 2017 Share November 27, 2017 Comic book and movie Punisher was motivated by his family's death to declare war on all criminals, which is almost by definition never-ending. What has driven Netflix Punisher was exacting revenge for those specifically responsible for killing his family. This Punisher thought he achieved that revenge by killing Schoonover and all the members of all the gangs. So what we are seeing in these early episode is what happens to a warrior when he thinks the war is over. I at least am cool with the change. 6 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 27, 2017 Share November 27, 2017 16 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said: Comic book and movie Punisher was motivated by his family's death to declare war on all criminals, which is almost by definition never-ending. What has driven Netflix Punisher was exacting revenge for those specifically responsible for killing his family. This Punisher thought he achieved that revenge by killing Schoonover and all the members of all the gangs. So what we are seeing in these early episode is what happens to a warrior when he thinks the war is over. I at least am cool with the change. I liked that look at post war/revenge Castle. I liked how they used it to draw parallels to the Soldiers at Curtis' meetings. There was a lot more depth to the story and character than I anticipated. 4 Link to comment
Taryn74 November 27, 2017 Share November 27, 2017 30 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said: There was a lot more depth to the story and character than I anticipated. Definitely. That's why I'm thoroughly enjoying this series. 2 Link to comment
peach December 2, 2017 Share December 2, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 4:39 PM, Chicago Redshirt said: Comic book and movie Punisher was motivated by his family's death to declare war on all criminals, which is almost by definition never-ending. So what we are seeing in these early episode is what happens to a warrior when he thinks the war is over. So...the opposite of the Punisher. Link to comment
johntfs January 11, 2018 Share January 11, 2018 On 12/1/2017 at 7:06 PM, peach said: So...the opposite of the Punisher. No, more a "pre-Punisher" than anything else. Of course the first targets that Castle goes after are the ones directly responsible for his family's deaths. While he tried to move on after getting that apparent revenge, he clearly can't. It didn't take much to draw him into killing the construction workers. Now he has a new set of targets. He's getting intel on them and equipping up. Presumably this season will finish that storyline and Frank will finally achieve his revenge. And season 2 will find that it's not quite enough, that he has to stay at war to stay functional. And that will be the real Punisher. 2 Link to comment
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