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S03.E15: Name 20 Picnics...Now!


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Not really a fan of this Jasper storyline. So Tandy and Todd fight over who's the better fake dad to him? Okay. When Jasper finally talks, the gang is gonna find out he's more intelligent than any of them. He DID survive on his own for god knows how long.

Tandy teaching Jasper how to leave flaming poop on someone's doorstep was great, though.

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This show seems to be wandering aimlessly now. Walking Dead ruined a show for me by adding a character that won't shut up and now this show is heading that way with a character that won't talk.

The only laugh for me was the inclusion of Toyotathon as a major holiday.

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4 minutes ago, Matt1 said:

Was I the only one expecting either Pamela or Mike to be in that police car?  And, what will come of that asteroid hit?

That wasn't an asteroid -- it looked like a part of the ISS that Mike abandoned.  Is it going to start a fire that burns down the office park ?  Probably. Except based on the what we've seen that object impacted hundreds of miles away, based on the trajectory.

The party was stupid.  Why celebrate all the holidays at once ?  Probably because they all know in the back of their minds that Tandy will end up accidentally killing Jasper so might as well get them over with at once.  Plus, wouldn't all that candy be long stale by now ?

Carol and her button obsession was stupider, especially because the payoff that she was 'worried' about her baby was such a let down.
And made worse by the fact that while 2 members of the survivors are pregnant, yet absolutely nobody has gone and found medical books to study up on pregnancy and delivery.  No, they are too busy doing stupid shit.

Jasper adds nothing to this show other than to give Tandy a reason to be an bigger idiot.

Why did Tandy need a Doc Brown-sized amp to listen to Jasper ?  Because it wasn't funny.
The birds and the bees talk was equally unfunny -- because Tandy doesn't seem to know that the birds don't fuck the bees in the 'birds and the bees' talk.

Still no sign of the calf, probably because it's dead in a ditch from lack of care.

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1 minute ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

The birds and the bees talk was equally unfunny -- because Tandy doesn't seem to know that the birds don't fuck the bees in the 'birds and the bees' talk.

Why is it called the birds and the bees? I never was explained this metaphor and a discussion is more fun than googling. 

Todd's dancing was kind of funny. But I guess I watch this show for the weekly mysteries to be solved. Not to laugh. This time I watched hoping Jasper would talk. He's cute.

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Upon 2nd viewing, it looked like a satellite, not part of the ISS, with the flames made to look like fiery wings until the solar panels crumpled.

And the store name looked like Moss Fleischer or something similar.

Just because they haven't found a dog yet doesn't mean all the dogs are dead.

And yet another episode goes by with no sign Kristin Wiig -- that's 5 now.

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I hope they don't try to pass off the ISS fire as threatening the office as it was hundreds of miles away as mentioned above and it was a strip mall surrounded by parking lots which would be likely to contain any fire.

How would Kristin Wiig even find them now? She only knew they were along the coast. Even if she did happen to remember the approximate coordinates, they are long gone and couldn't leave info since they had no idea where they would end up.

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They're pretty stupid about survival in general; they keep picking areas that aren't good to live/grow anything, somehow they can't find any canned meat despite 99.99% of the population dying so quickly there's plenty of everything else. 

Carol is just so freaking irritating. I wish she and Tandy would go off on their own and the rest of the cast found more people and tried to build a society. 

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19 minutes ago, Matt1 said:

Was I the only one expecting either Pamela or Mike to be in that police car?  And, what will come of that asteroid hit?

I wasn't (I kinda figured it had to be Melissa or Jasper); but when Todd was watching a DVD of the biopic Milk, I couldn't help flashing back to Pamela trying to teach her dog to talk ("Say it -- MILK!"). :D

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That party -- like her s.2 Christmas party on steroids -- must have been a helluva lot of fun for Crafty Carol, right in her wheelhouse. Yet it wouldn't surprise me if it was really more for her own benefit -- a creative outlet to distract herself (however briefly) from her worries and fears for her own pregnancy. (Speaking of which, I'm glad they finally acknowledged Erica's baby bump!)

As for Tandy and Todd's conflict, I'm actually relieved it had to do with a disagreement about Melissa, rather than the show simply repeating itself by either:

1) having Todd become jealous of Tandy over bonding with li'l Jasper instead of him (like he did towards the end of s.2 when Tandy started getting along better with Mike), or

2) having Erica choose Todd to be Jasper's adoptive father, and having Tandy get pissed about that (as he did over Todd getting to be the father-figure of her and Phil 2's unborn child in 2x12, "Valhalla").

I guess I could understand Tandy wanting to shield / protect Jasper, in his misguided way. Considering all the other trauma the kid must have been through, I would imagine the sight of a drugged woman stumbling around in a zombie-like state probably didn't faze him all that much -- though I wonder if on some level Tandy may have been projecting his own discomfort onto him...

To me, it seemed a bit more of a reach that Tandy excluding an ailing Melissa from the party would have triggered Todd's memories of not being allowed into nightclubs -- as awful as he must've felt, considering everything else that's happened I would've thought that aspect of his pre-Virus life would've been long behind him... Still, I suppose it would've been easy for him to have repressed that feeling after everyone else around him had died, thinking he would never have to go through it again -- in which case, it does sort of make sense that he would suddenly be reminded of it when he sees someone else being subjected to similar treatment (however well-meaning). :\

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So IS Carol actually pregnant? It would be really, really awful if she wasn't, after all that. If Phil could rig up some ultrasound equipment back in Malibu, can't they do the same thing now?

I was positive the episode would end with Tandy revealing he was scared of Melissa and projecting that onto Jasper. Incidentally, did he slip up at one point there and call Jasper "my son"?

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To me, it seemed a bit more of a reach that Tandy excluding an ailing Melissa from the party would have triggered Todd's memories of not being allowed into nightclubs -- as awful as he must've felt, considering everything else that's happened I would've thought that aspect of his pre-Virus life would've been long behind him

This here is much more of a reach, but I wonder... Mel Rodriguez is Cuban-American, so presumably Todd is too. And he's larger than the average hip young club-goer. Maybe it was plain old discrimination, which you never really get over...

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3 hours ago, sarahthenerd said:

So IS Carol actually pregnant? It would be really, really awful if she wasn't, after all that. If Phil could rig up some ultrasound equipment back in Malibu, can't they do the same thing now?

In this episode, Tandy seemed unaware of Carol's worries / fears; but I hope she brings them up to him at some point soon so they could do just that, to make sure. Right now he seems awfully focused on trying to impress Jasper; perhaps the next step in his development to leave that kid to Erica (as he chose her in the first place) and focus a little more on his unborn Yorbalinda or Beziqueel.

3 hours ago, sarahthenerd said:

I was positive the episode would end with Tandy revealing he was scared of Melissa and projecting that onto Jasper. Incidentally, did he slip up at one point there and call Jasper "my son"?

That's what I thought too, which is probably why I was so underwhelmed by Todd's reveal about his past. :\ As for the "my son" thing, I hope the next episode gets a little more into that...

3 hours ago, sarahthenerd said:

This here is much more of a reach, but I wonder... Mel Rodriguez is Cuban-American, so presumably Todd is too. And he's larger than the average hip young club-goer. Maybe it was plain old discrimination, which you never really get over...

Good points! 

2 hours ago, CofCinci said:

I guess satellites will start to fall from the sky?

The press release for the season finale says something about the gang facing "the long term consequences of surviving an apocalypse"; one of those things is that, with nobody on Earth to control the satellites, after a few years or so they eventually suffer orbital decay. While the piece that fell was far away from the gang, I suspect that was just a bit of foreshadowing as to what's in store for them...

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January Jones! Her performance of various states of mental stability and lucidity as Melissa have been great. I hope her character never quite regains full "normalcy" as it makes her character among the most dynamic of the group.

Speaking of performances. I am so glad Erica has much more to do in this segment. She's a good central voice to the group, but had long been on the periphery. As much as I liked Lewis, with him gone, she's able to do more. She bought into the ridiculousness of the holiday celebration and was giving it her all throughout.

One of my favorite moments. [Para-phrasing]

-"Ah yes the eyeroll, the non-verbal sign that you agree with someone" 

- *Whole head eyeroll from Gail]

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Was not enjoying the episode at all during all the party stuff, then Todd and Tandy started fighting and, coupled with the Melissa/Lewis bonding moment, and it saved the thing. Would have liked to have seen Tandy take at least one good punch though. He's certainly earned it.

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I didn't think there was anything particularly remarkable about Tandy referring to Jasper as his son. Didn't he sort of claim him as his son in the previous ep?

I knew that Jasper and Melissa would end up bonding somehow, so I was really irked waiting for that to happen. Seems like we're just treading water here.

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4 hours ago, CofCinci said:

What was the picture the kid drew?  Was it Rick and Carl from The Walking Dead?  Looked like a sheriff and a cop car.

I wondered about that; if that's the case, it could've been the kid's memory of being taken from his home after the death(s) of his parent(s). :\ 

I'm hoping we see more of that from him; if he really was only 4 or 5 when everyone around him died, he probably hadn't learned to read or write very well before then, but his being able to draw could go a long way toward filling in a bit of his backstory and revealing his personality. 

Considering that a kid character had been in the works for this show since s.1 -- according to a recent Q&A with LMOE's show-runners, had Carol gotten pregnant then, that's when Jasper would've been brought in as a way to give Tandy "parenting practice" before the baby's birth (the same function he's primarily serving now) -- having the child be nonverbal (for whatever reason) struck me as kind of a gutsy move. It frees the writers from simply falling back on overly "cute" / precocious dialogue or catchphrases for him, but things like facial expression, body language, and anything else he can possibly use to communicate become all the more important in establishing and developing the character.

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4 hours ago, sarahthenerd said:

Looking at Jasper's picture I think his dad (or someone else very close to him) was a cop, which explains why he was so happy to be in the cop car, it probably reminded him of his pre-virus life.

(If only the gang had thought of showing him the car earlier...)

Aww, I hadn't noticed the smiles before. :) 

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He DID survive on his own for god knows how long.

He flourished if his girth is any evidence. 

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Why is it called the birds and the bees? I never was explained this metaphor and a discussion is more fun than googling. 

Its origins are disputed but seems to be associated with old poetry one way or another.

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Upon 2nd viewing, it looked like a satellite, not part of the ISS,

Hard to tell . . . the international space station does look kind of like a satellite. 

I cracked up in spite of myself as Tandy was matter-of-factly explaining the porn video. 

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On 4/24/2017 at 7:30 AM, sarahthenerd said:

So IS Carol actually pregnant? It would be really, really awful if she wasn't, after all that.

I am worried about this.  Or just that something will happen that results in either it not being Tandy's baby or Carol not being pregnant.  I have been worried about it for a while. Since Todd made his speech about c-sections.

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He flourished if his girth is any evidence. 

That's what you get eating nothing but junk food for a few years. Trust me. 

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11 hours ago, possibilities said:

Wouldn't she know if she wasn't pregnant? I mean, it's been months. She would know if her cycle had returned.

I just figured she was referring to morning sickness, cravings and things like that (besides her belly not starting to grow yet). 

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On 4/28/2017 at 1:03 PM, iMonrey said:

Hard to tell . . . the international space station does look kind of like a satellite. 

<pushes glasses up bridge of nose>Actually, the ISS, by virtue of its orbiting the Earth, is a satellite.

Seeing as nothing came of it, I think it's probably not important which piece of space junk it was, just to indicate that things are failing (though, again, how does gas still work????).  Though by virtue of its size, the ISS might be a good bet if we're sticking with the rules of physics... smaller satellites would likely burn up in beautiful "shooting star"-like debris trails before hitting the ground.

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