SimoneS April 21, 2015 Author Share April 21, 2015 I am glad to read that Teresa is returning. I had hoped that she would become a regular cast member. I just hope that the actress is not pregnant or no doubt unimaginative Grimm writers will subject us to yet another pregnancy. Link to comment
ottilie April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 (edited) well - (living in Portland) yesterday I spotted that they were filming outside the house on Prescott st that Juliette fictitiously owns. First, I saw that there were dozens of Universal studios trucks and equipment being set up in the surrounding blocks that afternoon. They were getting two cherry picker lifts ready with cameras both in the block down the hill, and to the east of her house. Later around 7pm when it was about to get dark, they had shut off traffic on two blocks of Prescott and there were a lot of people at the intersection staging something. Most of them were camera crew, and it is impressive how many people are involved. It can make you feel forgiving about minor illogical plot points that the writers struggle with. I bet they were filming night scenes outside, and nothing inside the house. They must have to rehearse each minor scene several times, with regards to how people stand and move around, and it involved a full day of setting up these cameras and lights. They also have to think in advance of where they will go around town. If the season is almost over, are they starting on the subsequent season? Could they really be finishing a part for a show in two weeks? Anyway, they're fairly relaxed about the people in the neighborhood and I saw people jogging along the sidewalk and a homeless person carrying his bindle full of aluminum cans through their scene and nobody shouted orders at them. Edited April 22, 2015 by ottilie 2 Link to comment
OtterMommy April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 well - (living in Portland) yesterday I spotted that they were filming outside the house on Prescott st that Juliette fictitiously owns. First, I saw that there were dozens of Universal studios trucks and equipment being set up in the surrounding blocks that afternoon. They were getting two cherry picker lifts ready with cameras both in the block down the hill, and to the east of her house. Later around 7pm when it was about to get dark, they had shut off traffic on two blocks of Prescott and there were a lot of people at the intersection staging something. Most of them were camera crew, and it is impressive how many people are involved. It can make you feel forgiving about minor illogical plot points that the writers struggle with. I bet they were filming night scenes outside, and nothing inside the house. They must have to rehearse each minor scene several times, with regards to how people stand and move around, and it involved a full day of setting up these cameras and lights. They also have to think in advance of where they will go around town. If the season is almost over, are they starting on the subsequent season? Could they really be finishing a part for a show in two weeks? Anyway, they're fairly relaxed about the people in the neighborhood and I saw people jogging along the sidewalk and a homeless person carrying his bindle full of aluminum cans through their scene and nobody shouted orders at them. Yesterday was the last day of filming (although some of the actors have already finished up for the season, both Sasha Roiz and David Giuntoli have been done for several days), From what I understand from Bitsie Tulloch's IG and Twitter feeds, they were filming exterior shots of the house with Juliette. Link to comment
OtterMommy April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 (edited) Promo photos from 4.20: http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/grimm-episode-420-you-dont-know-jack.html It looks like Juliette does indeed go a little pyro at the trailer--which is actually not a bad thing, story wise. Other than the vials of dried toad skin and Siegborst Gift and, of course, the super soaker, they don't really need the trailer at this point. They are having much better luck going to Monroe and Rosalee to identify Wesen and getting rid of the trailer, it keeps those two character more in the loop. But, on the other hand, it is a supremely cruel thing to do to Nick on a personal level--that was the one connection he had with his heritage AND the only thing he had left from his Aunt Marie. Edited April 22, 2015 by OtterMommy 1 Link to comment
ShadowFacts April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Promo photos from 4.20: http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/grimm-episode-420-you-dont-know-jack.html It looks like Juliette does indeed go a little pyro at the trailer--which is actually not a bad thing, story wise. Other than the vials of dried toad skin and Siegborst Gift and, of course, the super soaker, they don't really need the trailer at this point. They are having much better luck going to Monroe and Rosalee to identify Wesen and getting rid of the trailer, it keeps those two character more in the loop. But, on the other hand, it is a supremely cruel thing to do to Nick on a personal level--that was the one connection he had with his heritage AND the only thing he had left from his Aunt Marie. I don't need any more reasons to dislike Juliette at this point, but this one would take the cake. The trailer is intensely meaningful to Nick and it is a historical archive going back through the centuries and continents. Nick was way too casual about protecting it, though he never thought Juliette would be one he would have to protect it from. 4 Link to comment
caseylane April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 If that spoiler is true, Juliette can't die fast enough. 6 Link to comment
beadgirl April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Ugh, I don't like this at all. I've always been a fan of Juliette, and I'm willing to cut her some slack, but the writers seem determined to make her irredeemable. 1 Link to comment
orza April 22, 2015 Share April 22, 2015 Hopefully, this is all leading up to a big showdown with death scene that gets her off the show. 3 Link to comment
ottilie April 23, 2015 Share April 23, 2015 "Promo photos from 4.20: http://www.spoilertv...-know-jack.html " oh, I guess they found their first murder victim at the Amtrak station. Some people were saying that something was being filmed kind of under the Steel Bridge, which is where the amtrak station starts. Link to comment
chrisvee April 23, 2015 Share April 23, 2015 If that spoiler is true, Juliette can't die fast enough. Totally agree 3 Link to comment
joeyg0118 April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 i am sorry but i know they lost me tonight ...the trailer, the historical perspective, the vast amounts of information lost, really means the show can never be anything but more soap opera drama ...and thats just not me ...sorry writers but i will not even finish out the season. Link to comment
Free April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 i am sorry but i know they lost me tonight ...the trailer, the historical perspective, the vast amounts of information lost, really means the show can never be anything but more soap opera drama ...and thats just not me ...sorry writers but i will not even finish out the season. They just had to get rid of something that had full of answers after meandering for 4 seasons. Link to comment
chrisvee April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 (edited) I can't believe they destroyed that trailer and all its gorgeous and valuable historical artifacts. I don't care if Juliette is being influenced by hexen nastiness as a consequence of a spell gone bad. She can't come back from this. Based on the promo and spoilers, I'm worried she forces Nick to shoot someone. Edited April 26, 2015 by chrisvee Link to comment
formerlyfreedom April 25, 2015 Share April 25, 2015 Folks, a reminder - this is the Spoiler topic - you're talking about stuff that happened on the most recent episode, and that should go over in that topic, please. Thanks! Link to comment
OtterMommy April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 (edited) Okay, with recent developments, how do you think the spoiler that someone (2 people?) will die. Here is how I see the characters' chances: Nick - Nope, they aren't going to kill of their main character. I mean, technically they already did that once so I hope they wouldn't do it again (but then...Adalind's pregnant again....) Juliette - BT has mentioned coming back to Portland in a few months to start work on Season 5, so if she does die she will somehow be resurrected. Sorry folks, Juliette isn't going anywhere. Monroe - I don't think he's going to be in good shape at the finale, but I don't think he'll be dead. Rosalee - Well, I guess she's a possibility, but I just don't see it happening Hank - I still think he's one of the more likely to bite it, simply because he can be removed from the story line pretty easily. Wu - More likely than Nick, Juliette, Monroe, or Rosalee, but unlike Hank, he is actually useful now. He probably knows more about Wesen than Nick does at this point. I mean, Nick would go to the trailer when he needed to find things out. In the early episodes, there were a couple of scenes where Nick was doing some reading just to gather information, but for most of the last 4 years, he only hits the books when he needs a specific bit of information and then leaves. And Hank, well, he just sort of tags along. Wu, however, actually goes there to study and we've already had one incident where Wu could identify a Wesen than Nick had not yet encountered. Renard - It's possible, but I think he'll end up being the serial killer that the last 3 episodes will focus on. I think the bleeding bullet wounds indicate something other than his death. Adalind - As much as I like Claire Coffee, this would be my choice, but I just don't think it is going to happen. Sigh...... Kelly - The most likely in my book. She's the target of the Royals--and by extension, Juliette--and Adalind. I read a speculation that the season will end with Adalind betraying everyone to get Diana, which will lead to Kelly's death. Interesting, especially since the writers are trying so hard to paint Adalind as a damsel in distress. There is also the small matter of Mary Elizabeth Mastontonio, or however you spell, being cast in a pilot for another show. Of course, that show has not yet had a pick up and, even if it did, she could probably still pull off the 2 or so episodes of Grimm each season, but the powers that be like to have their actors available. Trubel - Nope. Not going to happen--it would be pointless to kill her off. Other than being a friend to Nick and being a rather inexperienced Grimm, she isn't really valuable to the antagonists. Bud - Please, please, please NO! I feel I have to beg because, after they torched the trailer, I know that sweet Bud is not safe. I'm hoping the fact that the fans pretty much adore him will keep him safe. Kenneth - I would LOVE that. He's just another pointless and interchangeable Royal, but an especially annoying one. Hmmm, did I miss anyone? I wish we had a poll function here to keep track of people's predictions! Edited April 27, 2015 by OtterMommy Link to comment
formerlyfreedom April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 I wish we had a poll function here to keep track of people's predictions! We actually do have poll function here. PM me () or @SilverStormm and we'll be happy to set that up for you! Link to comment
ShadowFacts April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 I think Kelly and Kenneth are most likely. Nick can go really dark. Kelly is never on-screen anyway. The idea of Renard being the serial killer, very interesting. He has been increasingly violent and out of control. How would that resolve? He can't stay a police captain. Not in my Grimm-verse anyway. Link to comment
OakGoblinFly April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 I'm thinking it's Kelly as Kenneth was as subtle as a dropping anvil in his conversation with Juliette. I don't think the powers-that-be have the guts to kill of Juliette (though I wish they would). 1 Link to comment
FormerMod-a1 April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Maybe Adalind and her baby? That would be two. I'm not saying I want this, but I also don't want to deal with a baby. 1 Link to comment
OakGoblinFly April 27, 2015 Share April 27, 2015 Maybe Adalind and her baby? That would be two. I'm not saying I want this, but I also don't want to deal with a baby. I am very fearful that the writers are going to find a way to make the baby Juliette's as a side effect of the body swapping sex ....... and I, for one, would be very sad if we lost Adalind. I haven't like what the writers did to the character - but I've enjoyed her enough to want to keep her around a bit longer (especially if she returns to season one and two form). Juliette cannot depart the show fast enough for my taste. 4 Link to comment
Free April 28, 2015 Share April 28, 2015 I'm thinking it's Kelly as Kenneth was as subtle as a dropping anvil in his conversation with Juliette. I don't think the powers-that-be have the guts to kill of Juliette (though I wish they would). Exactly, this series has been relatively predictable. Link to comment
OtterMommy April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 (edited) Promo photos for 4.21 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/grimm-episode-421-headache-promotional.html Apparently Renard was not enough forJuliette. And Trubel....with a machete! Edited April 29, 2015 by OtterMommy Link to comment
Free April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 And who knows if that pic was Julliette seducing Mr. Royal. She could be holding him down to bitch at him and maybe blame him for something. Nope, that's only reserved for Nick and the gang who's there to get walked all over every time they try to support or help her. Link to comment
OakGoblinFly April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 (edited) Promo photos for 4.21 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/04/grimm-episode-421-headache-promotional.html Apparently Renard was not enough forJuliette. And Trubel....with a machete! Let's just hope she uses that on Juliette. Edited April 29, 2015 by OakGoblinFly 4 Link to comment
ShadowFacts April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 I note that Juliette has the same (non) expression in every shot. 4 Link to comment
Prevailing Wind April 29, 2015 Share April 29, 2015 Well, after seeing that commercial with that guy (Icky?) "Number 44! That's me...gonna get some cold cuts, gonna get some cold cuts..." I don't think the deli analogy holds up. 1 Link to comment
Lii April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 If Trubel chops her non emoting head off with a big ass machete I'll celebrate at any deli you'd like. 3 Link to comment
kathyk24 April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 According to TV Guide during the season finale Nick will seek revenge on the Royals. I hope this doesn't mean Kelly dies. Link to comment
OakGoblinFly April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 According to TV Guide during the season finale Nick will seek revenge on the Royals. I hope this doesn't mean Kelly dies. You know that is exactly what is going to happen; Kenneth's less than subtle conversation was a dead give away. Link to comment
OtterMommy April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 https://youtu.be/QAN3s1IO7Yk https://youtu.be/El0dnCohjq8 Two new previews for 4.20. Not wild at all about either of these...it looks like Adalind is being sainted by the writers. However, when she "tests" the cure, wouldn't that subdue her biestness? I guess there are 2 ways to look at that. One - she could really value her life over her powers and is willing to give the latter up to protect the former. Then, we're set up for Nick protecting her from here on out and my Friday nights are suddenly free. -Or- Two - Adalind lied about what this potion was supposed to do and, if both Adalind and Juliette drink it, they will somehow be bonded together and form a super villain. This could be really bad or really awesome...and a fabulous way for Adalind to exact revenge (yet again) on Nick...and get her baby back. I think number 2 is by far the better outcome (even if it sets up more baby drama...this time Nick is looking for his son...). And, as I said before, if TPTB try to ship Nick with his rapist, I am outta here.... Link to comment
ShadowFacts April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 Interesting previews. Nick mentions "according to the books". Is he working from memory, or??? And what pregnant woman swallows potions/poisons/foul tasting concoctions? Or do hexenbiests not have placentas like regular humans? Sadly there really are human pregnant women who ingest all kinds of bad junk. Link to comment
OtterMommy April 30, 2015 Share April 30, 2015 Interesting previews. Nick mentions "according to the books". Is he working from memory, or??? And what pregnant woman swallows potions/poisons/foul tasting concoctions? Or do hexenbiests not have placentas like regular humans? Sadly there really are human pregnant women who ingest all kinds of bad junk. I thought that as well about her being pregnant and drinking corpse juice. But, hey, she drank wine the entire time she was pregnant the first time.... 1 Link to comment
chrisvee May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 I've always thought Nick and Adalind have chemistry. And she showed redemption potential when she was on the road with that revolutionary dude while pregnant with Diana. Adalind minus some of her beisteness might be ok in my book. 2 Link to comment
OtterMommy May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 I've always thought Nick and Adalind have chemistry. And she showed redemption potential when she was on the road with that revolutionary dude while pregnant with Diana. Adalind minus some of her beisteness might be ok in my book. I actually don't deny that there is chemistry there. However, I just don't understand why entertainment thinks that rape is a minor crime. Yes, this was a rape of a man, which is rarely seen on TV. And it wasn't violent--in fact, Nick wasn't exactly complaining afterwards. But, Nick never consented to have sex with Adalind and Adalind made sure the sex happened. If you boil it down to that, it was rape. If the writers had found some other way for Adalind to de-Grimm Nick, I would have no problem with them getting together. Yet, the writers chose to go the sensationalistic route without any thought of what they were actually doing and they seem to have blown the whole thing off with no consequences (well, other than Adalind's time-release pregnancy and having to go through a ritual which made Juliette a hexenbiest). No one has ever really held Adalind accountable for what she did. 5 Link to comment
hincandenza May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 I actually don't deny that there is chemistry there. However, I just don't understand why entertainment thinks that rape is a minor crime. Yes, this was a rape of a man, which is rarely seen on TV. And it wasn't violent--in fact, Nick wasn't exactly complaining afterwards. But, Nick never consented to have sex with Adalind and Adalind made sure the sex happened. If you boil it down to that, it was rape. A thousand Likes on this; it was the gang-rape of Jason by the panther hillbillies in True Blood- played for frickin' laughs by Alan Ball, apparently- that had me turn off that show for good. It's so troubling how often shows will play up the serious trauma of their characters- male or female- as some badge of honor, or easy emotional vein to tap in manipulating the audience. The worst is when a couple of seasons later, the characters are buddy-buddy, as if any amount of water under the bridge would make you forget someone who tried to rape or kill you. The tiny credit I'll give Grimm is that at least no one has shown a hint of "Eh, Adalind's okay, just misunderstood". Well... so far, at least... 6 Link to comment
TwistedandBored May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 Rape is such a serious thing and that word should not be said lightly. I am not saying you guys are doing that but lately people have been saying that about almost every TV show that I feel like it loses it's power when the situation calls for it...like that Jason gang rape on True Blood. I think Adalind was deceptive in what she did to Nick but I don't think it was rape. In the eyes of the Portland law, it is not one of the criteria they use to define rape as well. So, I am not going to stand here and blame Adalind for violating Nick's right when in season 1, Nick violent kissed Adalind against her will. I guess that was fine because she was evil, right? She should have filled charge against him then. No one innocent here. Link to comment
OtterMommy May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 (edited) Rape is such a serious thing and that word should not be said lightly. I am not saying you guys are doing that but lately people have been saying that about almost every TV show that I feel like it loses it's power when the situation calls for it...like that Jason gang rape on True Blood. I think Adalind was deceptive in what she did to Nick but I don't think it was rape. In the eyes of the Portland law, it is not one of the criteria they use to define rape as well. So, I am not going to stand here and blame Adalind for violating Nick's right when in season 1, Nick violent kissed Adalind against her will. I guess that was fine because she was evil, right? She should have filled charge against him then. No one innocent here. I don't agree. First off, what Adalind did to Nick fits the dictionary definition of rape: (from websters) unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim. I said earlier that Nick didn't seem to upset about it--and he didn't, at first. Once, however, he knew that it had been Adalind, it was quite clear that he realized the gravity of what had happened. No, there was no "force" involved, but that isn't necessary for it to be rape. But, as I said, Nick never gave consent to have sex with Adalind. You can't get much clearer than that. We could also go into how Adalind did roofie-like magic on Hank to get him to sleep with her..... Also rape. Of course, by that definition, it could be argued that what Nick did to Adalind was also rape except for the fact that it was not "sexual penetration." There was nothing sexual in what he did when he stuck his tongue in her throat--he did it only so that she would bite him hard enough to draw blood. And, they had been going toe-to-toe in a very physical, very violent fight and Adalind was giving it as good as she was getting it. I don't think it is unreasonable to assume that Adalind may have killed Nick (or Nick may have truly killed Adalind) if the fight had continued. I agree that rape is a very serious thing--which is why I am very disappointed in how this show is handling it. I don't think that those of us who have a problem with this are bandying around "rape" casually. In fact, I think we are doing quite the opposite. Edited May 1, 2015 by OtterMommy 3 Link to comment
caseylane May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 Just to play devil's advocate, Nick did penetrate her body with the express purpose of sharing bodily fluids so... Television has always played fast and loose with rape. When Luke and Laura became THE romantic couple on TV years ago I gave up all hope. That was a violent rape and they ended up happily married. Rape has been romanticised in not only TV but a hella lot of romance books. If women are buying and enjoying them how the hell do we expect male writers to get it right. 1 Link to comment
OtterMommy May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 I think this convo has veered away from spoilers, so I'm taking my reply over to the writing thread. Link to comment
formerlyfreedom May 1, 2015 Share May 1, 2015 Yes, let's return to discussion of spoilers please. Link to comment
chrisvee May 2, 2015 Share May 2, 2015 I think this season has to end in Juliette's death. Everything seems to be leading towards a Buffylike ending where Nick has to sacrifice her. Is there any chance that Juliette has accepted already that the only way this can end well for Nick is with her death and she's setting this up deliberately so Nick will kill her? So she's not betraying Nick -- she's trying to set up the inevitable so that he can kill her without guilt? 1 Link to comment
Free May 2, 2015 Share May 2, 2015 I think this season has to end in Juliette's death. Everything seems to be leading towards a Buffylike ending where Nick has to sacrifice her. Is there any chance that Juliette has accepted already that the only way this can end well for Nick is with her death and she's setting this up deliberately so Nick will kill her? So she's not betraying Nick -- she's trying to set up the inevitable so that he can kill her without guilt? A sacrifice would be the only way to 'redeem' her character, otherwise, she's just a poorly written character who's been forced into the villain role and it's sadly dragging the show down. She's already doing more damage than Adalind has done and if she's responsible for the death(s) in the remaining episodes, then that's even more reason to get rid of her. Link to comment
Prevailing Wind May 3, 2015 Share May 3, 2015 I wonder how many takes they had to do of Nick's anguished "NOOooooooooooooo" at the end of the promo. Did he have fun doing it? Link to comment
OtterMommy May 5, 2015 Share May 5, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/05/grimm-episode-422-cry-havoc-promotional.html Promo photos from the season finale....Crossbows galore! And it looks like Kenneth is probably not one of the deaths (bummer....) Link to comment
TVSpectator May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 http://www.spoilertv.com/2015/05/grimm-episode-422-cry-havoc-promotional.html Promo photos from the season finale....Crossbows galore! And it looks like Kenneth is probably not one of the deaths (bummer....) If Kenneth doesn't die or gets shipped on a bus, he will probably be eating up all of the screen time next season. 1 Link to comment
OtterMommy May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 If Kenneth doesn't die or gets shipped on a bus, he will probably be eating up all of the screen time next season. My theory, based on that picture, is that Kenneth is being arrested for the touted murder. I'm assuming it is Kelly, which means she dies either in e21 or in the beginning of ep22. Which also means that is not the big thing that is supposed to end this season. Which means some other crap is going to come up--I'm hoping it is the ridiculous Jack the Ripper plot and not more Juliette (not that I'm a fan of the Jack the Ripper plot at all, but at least it has Sasha Roiz in it). On another board, someone made the suggestion that Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio doesn't even actually show up--they use a double for her scenes (you only see her from the back) and then CGI her face from previous appearances and her death will happen basically off-camera (if she is actually the character that dies). I don't know if that is true, but I do know that she is NOT currently listed in the casts for either 4.21 or 4.22 on IMDB. But, back to Kenny Boy. Him being arrested is not great news--it means he'll be in jail...in Portland...next season. Sigh. Link to comment
Free May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 My theory, based on that picture, is that Kenneth is being arrested for the touted murder. I'm assuming it is Kelly, which means she dies either in e21 or in the beginning of ep22. Which also means that is not the big thing that is supposed to end this season. Which means some other crap is going to come up--I'm hoping it is the ridiculous Jack the Ripper plot and not more Juliette (not that I'm a fan of the Jack the Ripper plot at all, but at least it has Sasha Roiz in it). On another board, someone made the suggestion that Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio doesn't even actually show up--they use a double for her scenes (you only see her from the back) and then CGI her face from previous appearances and her death will happen basically off-camera (if she is actually the character that dies). I don't know if that is true, but I do know that she is NOT currently listed in the casts for either 4.21 or 4.22 on IMDB. But, back to Kenny Boy. Him being arrested is not great news--it means he'll be in jail...in Portland...next season. Sigh. So she's not even in the episode where she might get killed off? Well that's even cheaper than Henrietta getting killed off in a pathetic way. As for Kenny, Idc, he's a generic baddy that could easily be replaced like all the other Royals. 1 Link to comment
OtterMommy May 6, 2015 Share May 6, 2015 So she's not even in the episode where she might get killed off? Well that's even cheaper than Henrietta getting killed off in a pathetic way. As for Kenny, Idc, he's a generic baddy that could easily be replaced like all the other Royals. Well, we'll see about Kelly, but is looking like she won't actually be there for her own death. I mean, MEE isn't contractually obligated to do anything for the show, so I could see it happening that they have to kill Kelly without her.... I agree with you about Kenny. There really isn't anything that interesting about him. I miss James Frain..... 1 Link to comment
OtterMommy May 13, 2015 Share May 13, 2015 FINALE Sneak Peaks! https://youtu.be/9ZLgojkeke0 Nick *finally* figures out that 2+2 equals Juliette is evil (and Hank get to give him the "No shit, Sherlock" look) https://youtu.be/p74SJewpvA4 And Bud has plenty of toothbrushes.... 3 Link to comment
ShadowFacts May 14, 2015 Share May 14, 2015 After the finale sneak peeks, I watched the brief interviews with Russell, Silas and Clare, and they all have interesting takes on the season. Link to comment
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