Season 7 First Looks etc.

[Martinigirl]

On 4/13/2017 at 3:04 PM, AndySmith said:

A sneak peek at Kim and Rinna from next week. I found myself cracking up mostly at Kyle's reaction...ok, maybe cracking up isn't the word. But I did find her interesting to watch, even if she doesn't say anything.

 

Yeah, she's a real peach

[KungFuBunny]

10 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Yeah, she's a real peach

I don't know if she's a Georgia Peach but I can say I prefer Kim High As A Georgia Pine...at least we can blame her behavior on some substance

[thefog]

With Kim, I'm sure there's some jealousy towards Eileen.  Eileen won the Emmy right before joining HW's.  She's maintained a 30+ year acting career - which is very difficult to do.  The Young and Restless is TV royalty and has a much winder audience than HWs.

Whereas Kim's acting career has long faded.  She is just another washed up, high maintenance neurotic child actor, with addiction problems who goes from rehab to rehab, who makes headlines for getting arrested for being a public nuisance.

Edited April 18, 2017 by escape

[WireWrap]

3 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Kim may be receiving help to treat her alcoholism but has yet to seek help to treat her ASSholism

Maybe she and Rinna can get "Assholism" therapy together! LOL

[nexxie]

4 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

Maybe she and Rinna can get "Assholism" therapy together! LOL

That's a show I'd watch!

[Dutchgirl]

8 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

IMO it's just perception based on who someone likes. In the scene that ran across my IPad, LVP was the one to insert her opinion into the Rinna/Kim bunnygate saga, but there are several posts on here about how Eileen inserted herself. I think it's just because many don't like Eileen. If Eileen would have been inserting herself to defend Kim, some would have thrown her a parade. Suddenly her voice would be a welcome one. How strange is that? And why wouldn't Eileen point out the obvious? That Kim is clearly doing this for attention and to be nasty. Wouldn't most people defend their friend? And certainly mileage varies on who has been more nasty to the other - Kim or Rinna. Both are wrong, but we are just sitting on our couch with our opinions. Luckily for most of us, we've never met Kim Richards, or her dog, but Eileen has. She has been snarled at by Kim, talked to like shit by Kim, had a party ruined by Kim. She sat on a reunion stage 2 years ago with that nutter Kim while she minimized her dog attacking her niece, mocking Kyle with words like "it was just a bite on her fucking finger". Eileen was there for that. She saw that nastiness in person. Kim Richards is the nastiest person to ever be on this show (IMO worse than Brandi), so I am pretty much OK with Eileen having an opinion that points out what an overall lousy person Kim Richards is. 

 

It's funny Eileen seems blinded by Rinna's constant, endless, tiring antics toward Kim. Kim's dog? Geez, a bit of a throwback but if my dog bit my sister's kid OFF the show, I'd be embarrassed and a little more than pissed that she brought it up ON the show. Kim is everything we all think she is, but she's also been poked too many times by too many desperate housewives scrambling to climb on top of her. Rinna is restraining-order material.

[motorcitymom65]

29 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

It's funny Eileen seems blinded by Rinna's constant, endless, tiring antics toward Kim. Kim's dog? Geez, a bit of a throwback but if my dog bit my sister's kid OFF the show, I'd be embarrassed and a little more than pissed that she brought it up ON the show. Kim is everything we all think she is, but she's also been poked too many times by too many desperate housewives scrambling to climb on top of her. Rinna is restraining-order material.

The dog bite isn't really much of a throwback, since she has been sued again as recently as last June for the same damn thing.  

[Dutchgirl]

5 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

The dog bite isn't really much of a throwback, since she has been sued again as recently as last June for the same damn thing.  

...and it still has zero to do with the show. Complete non-starter.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Dutchgirl

[Dutchgirl]

On 4/15/2017 at 5:53 PM, KungFuBunny said:

If Rinna wants to clap back....she can say I'm so sorry - it was thoughtless of me to give you a gift I brought from Target that you could never return or exchange.

Kim should be thanking Rinna and quietly shove that bunny back behind the couch. A stuffed bunny with bad juju beats Rinna boiling a real rabbit in a pot in Kim's kitchen. Be thankful Kim...and quiet. No sudden movements.

[motorcitymom65]

9 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

...and it still has zero to do with the show. Complete non-starter.

Maybe to you....but it goes to who Kim is. Eileen saw it up close and personal. It would be hard to forget. That is the person that Kim Richards is. Drunk or sober, no matter. 

[Jel]

23 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

IMO it's just perception based on who someone likes. In the scene that ran across my IPad, LVP was the one to insert her opinion into the Rinna/Kim bunnygate saga, but there are several posts on here about how Eileen inserted herself. I think it's just because many don't like Eileen. If Eileen would have been inserting herself to defend Kim, some would have thrown her a parade. Suddenly her voice would be a welcome one. How strange is that? And why wouldn't Eileen point out the obvious? That Kim is clearly doing this for attention and to be nasty. Wouldn't most people defend their friend? And certainly mileage varies on who has been more nasty to the other - Kim or Rinna. Both are wrong, but we are just sitting on our couch with our opinions. Luckily for most of us, we've never met Kim Richards, or her dog, but Eileen has. She has been snarled at by Kim, talked to like shit by Kim, had a party ruined by Kim. She sat on a reunion stage 2 years ago with that nutter Kim while she minimized her dog attacking her niece, mocking Kyle with words like "it was just a bite on her fucking finger". Eileen was there for that. She saw that nastiness in person. Kim Richards is the nastiest person to ever be on this show (IMO worse than Brandi), so I am pretty much OK with Eileen having an opinion that points out what an overall lousy person Kim Richards is. 

That is my opinion, too.

I saw the way Lisa did it as a continuation of, or a return to, the whole positive sounding stuff Kim was saying Re:  the possibility of a future friendship between Kim and Rinna that happened before the bunny return.  Lisa was, in my mind, trying to highlight and remind Rinna that Kim had just said a bunch of positive stuff before Andy asked the "viewer question". 

Bringing the bunny, the question timing, the question itself = shenanigans.

[AndySmith]

13 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Maybe to you....but it goes to who Kim is. Eileen saw it up close and personal. It would be hard to forget. That is the person that Kim Richards is. Drunk or sober, no matter. 

She definitely has her issues, that's for sure.

[AndySmith]

Looks like we (finally!) get an update on Max's search for his bio mom next episode...

[Wings]

I am curious to know who Max' birth mother is, too.  I like these stories.   I hear of many adopted thanking their birth mother for giving them up if they have a good life.  It is clear Max is loved and throw in wealth and you have a fairy tale ending!  Not sure we will know how this story will unfolds since they will fight to keep it under wraps to film for next season.  

There can be problems with the birth mother trying to get a piece of the money when found, too.  I cannot remember the specifics, because it was years ago,  but there was a situation where this happened.  I have no doubt that Lisa and Ken have a fear about this.  

Edited April 19, 2017 by wings707

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, wings707 said:

I am curious to know who Max' birth mother is, too.  I like these stories.   I hear of many adopted thanking their birth mother for giving them up if they have a good life.  It is clear Max is loved and throw in wealth and you have a fairy tale ending!  Not sure we will know how this story will unfolds since they will fight to keep it under wraps to film for next season.  

There can be problems with the birth mother trying to get a piece of the money when found, too.  I cannot remember the specifics, because it was years ago,  but there was a situation where this happened.  I have no doubt that Lisa and Ken have a fear about this.  

I believe the birthparents sent Max to foster care and Ken and Lisa adopted him at under six months.  I may have this wrong but I am also under the impression his birth parents are Americans.  There may be an opportunity for  People Magazine story. 

I believe it is exciting for the whole family that Max discover his biological roots.  His birth parents could be in their early forties vs Ken being in his early seventies. Good times.

[Wings]

13 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

I believe the birthparents sent Max to foster care and Ken and Lisa adopted him at under six months.  I may have this wrong but I am also under the impression his birth parents are Americans.  There may be an opportunity for  People Magazine story. 

I believe it is exciting for the whole family that Max discover his biological roots.  His birth parents could be in their early forties vs Ken being in his early seventies. Good times.

Were they living in the states at the time?  Must have been.  

[lauralu]

My take away from the reunions so far is consistent with what I've felt since the show began and that while there have been many unlikable housewives, Kim Richards takes all the cakes for un-likability.  She is just truly awful to her core.  When she's drunk, high, sober, all the time.   Even when she's trying to be cute and talking about turtles, it just comes off as weird and stupid.  Ugh.  My hate for her is deep.

[sarivon]

On 4/19/2017 at 9:33 AM, AndySmith said:

Looks like we (finally!) get an update on Max's search for his bio mom next episode...

 

She needs to step away from the scalpel or needle or whatever. Her face is moving funny. And not moving, LOL.

[NeverLate]

On 19/04/2017 at 3:24 PM, wings707 said:

Were they living in the states at the time?  Must have been.  

I love that Maxs wants to thank them, if they hadn't thought about his well being, he wouldn't be where he is now. He had a lovely tribute to Lisa and Ken on his FB page apparently. I cry seeing Lisa cry about the yulan dogs, our city adopted some of them.

[Wings]

12 hours ago, Fanny Mare said:

I love that Maxs wants to thank them, if they hadn't thought about his well being, he wouldn't be where he is now. He had a lovely tribute to Lisa and Ken on his FB page apparently. I cry seeing Lisa cry about the yulan dogs, our city adopted some of them.

I work in dog rescue and have for a long time.  A lot brings me to tears and Yulan is on the top of the list.  I tear up when LVP does, too.  

[WireWrap]

4 hours ago, wings707 said:

I work in dog rescue and have for a long time.  A lot brings me to tears and Yulan is on the top of the list.  I tear up when LVP does, too.  

I lost it when Ken cried, big time!

[NeverLate]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

I lost it when Ken cried, big time!

Me too. :)

[Wings]

1 hour ago, WireWrap said:

I lost it when Ken cried, big time!

I did too. 

[Christi]

Lisa's rescue is on Facebook.  I'm in rescue as well, and she really is doing a lot of good 

[Wings]

35 minutes ago, Christi said:

Lisa's rescue is on Facebook.  I'm in rescue as well, and she really is doing a lot of good 

Yes, I am keeping abreast of what she is doing.  She is a good woman.  I have mad respect for her. 

Edited April 23, 2017 by wings707

[Jel]

On 4/22/2017 at 8:33 PM, Christi said:

Lisa's rescue is on Facebook.  I'm in rescue as well, and she really is doing a lot of good 

That is great to hear, Christi. Awesome that you work in rescue, too. Thank you for that. :)

[zoeysmom]

Rinna claims she is Kim's meal ticket:  http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/real-housewives-of-beverly-hil-64332.aspx

Eileen doesn't speak to people she speaks at them.  Angry woman and full of low blows. Can't wait for her to whittle her work resume to just "The Young and The Restless".  Kim's insertion as to Rinna and Eileen bouncing off each other is just as relevant to Kim as Eileen going after Dorit about a conversation she was not a part of.  They all thought Kim's assertion into the Pantygate conversation was fine.

Rinna needs to reflect on the fact the last two seasons she has used others' illnesses/diseases as a way to bring attention to herself.  No one finds Rinna and her daughters interesting and I would like a moratorium on Harry Hamlin.  I am so tired of hearing his name.  Again lies about Harrys involvement -he didn't suggest a gift for Kim he signed off on Rinna's attention grabbing scam. 

Edited April 25, 2017 by zoeysmom

[AndySmith]

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Rinna claims Kim is her meal ticket

Actually, Rinna was claiming Rinna is Kim's meal ticket:

"You know what Kim,  you just want to be on a show and I'm your meal ticket," Rinna claims. "I'm it, baby. I'm sorry -- I'm your meal ticket."

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Eileen doesn't speak to people she speaks at them.  Angry woman and full of low blows.

I'm not sure I see either that way. She doesn't come off as 24/7 angry (that would be Brandi), nor does she go for the low blow the way others do.

Edited April 25, 2017 by AndySmith

[zoeysmom]

Kyle let's Rinna know how things stand:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/episode-21/videos/next-on-rhobh-the-bunny-aftermath 

11 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Actually, Rinna was claiming Rinna is Kim's meal ticket:

"You know what Kim,  you just want to be on a show and I'm your meal ticket," Rinna claims. "I'm it, baby. I'm sorry -- I'm your meal ticket."

I'm not sure I see either that way. She doesn't come off as 24/7 angry (that would be Brandi), nor does she go for the low blow the way others do.

OOPS-I fixed it and put up the video

[Jel]

Rinna's arrogance and delusions know no bounds.  She's Kim's meal ticket? Kim you-stole-my-goddam house Richards, Brandi attacker then defender, all around drama causer and story line-generator Kim Richards? GTFOH.

Rinna's more like a giant pimple -- yes, you notice it and think about it and are grossed out by it, maybe you even obsess about it for a little while because it's so irritating and embarrassing, but mostly you just can't wait for it to go away.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Jel

[zoeysmom]

15 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Actually, Rinna was claiming Rinna is Kim's meal ticket:

"You know what Kim,  you just want to be on a show and I'm your meal ticket," Rinna claims. "I'm it, baby. I'm sorry -- I'm your meal ticket."

I'm not sure I see either that way. She doesn't come off as 24/7 angry (that would be Brandi), nor does she go for the low blow the way others do.

Eileen is always angry, maybe it is her grieving process.  She was ahead and should have stopped when she decried Rinna words at Kim.  Either one is responsible for the words or they or not.  Kim's words that night were more observational and accurate, as Eileen and Rinna prove once again. 

I don't think a rational person can keep saying, "you don't know what you saw," really Eileen that is the very definition of obnoxious.

Edited April 25, 2017 by zoeysmom

[AndySmith]

Always angry? There must have been someone else on this season called Eileen who was always angry that I didn't notice. Eileen might not have been laughing and smiling all the time, but if anything, she seemed a bit sad more than anything, possibly due to the grieving progress. But I wouldn't call her always angry, given that we saw her not being angry many times throughout the season.

I wouldn't say that is the definition of obnoxious, especially when compared to people like Kim or Rinna.

[PhilMarlowe2]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Kyle let's Rinna know how things stand:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/episode-21/videos/next-on-rhobh-the-bunny-aftermath 

OOPS-I fixed it and put up the video

See, this is why I think Kyle is full of shit and I kind of understand Lisa Rinna's problem with her. Kyle insists she does not need to apologize for her sister - fair enough - but then she will be the first one to go after Lisa for the things she says about Kim. So, in this situation, Kyle has zero to say about Kim's bunny stunt but then acts all outraged when Rinna makes her comment about Kim using her as a meal ticket. Kyle doesn't stay out of Kim's battles - she selectively gets angry on Kim's behalf but then bristles at the idea that she should have to hold Kim at all accountable for her part in things. Kyle is kind of an enabler in that regard.

[zoeysmom]

3 hours ago, AndySmith said:

Always angry? There must have been someone else on this season called Eileen who was always angry that I didn't notice. Eileen might not have been laughing and smiling all the time, but if anything, she seemed a bit sad more than anything, possibly due to the grieving progress. But I wouldn't call her always angry, given that we saw her not being angry many times throughout the season.

I wouldn't say that is the definition of obnoxious, especially when compared to people like Kim or Rinna.

What I don't care for about Eileen, is how she always wants to have a resolution conversation.  It would be great if she (a) didn't screw up and say things such as "two days before my mother died" and become frustrated and condescending to the person with whom she wants resolution conversation.  At Camille's she throws something out there and then feigns, "I don't think I am the bad guy here."  She is.  All Eileen had to do is tell Erika that she and Rinna found the flash amusing until she/they realized Erika was embarrassed/hurt.  It did not need to involve Dorit and it certainly did not need two or three visitations.

Eileen made snotty comments walking into Game Night and then claimed she was happy to see Kim-not what she said on the way in.  Eileen was pissy in Mexico telling people what to do about a conversation she had no part of.  She then went out on the boat and was angry at LVP for calling out Rinna.  She attacked PK after Erika brought him into the conversation. 

All I can say is the reason people don't let Eileen talk is she is just so self-righteous.  She wanted some sort of stupid resolution with Dorit over her mother's death.  Eileen can't have it both ways and demand these resolution conversations, ask a question and then tell someone to stop talking when the conversation doesn't go her way.  No one and I mean no one other than she and Rinna cared if her mother's death impacted her treatment or opinion of LVP.  PK made an observation based on what Rinna said as far as having a different outlook after her father's death and threw Eileen into the mix mentioning the deaths of her family members.  At no time did the Kemsleys question either Rinna or Eileen's grieving process let alone denounce it. 

Edited April 25, 2017 by zoeysmom

[thefog]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Rinna claims Kim she is Kim's meal ticket:  http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/real-housewives-of-beverly-hil-64332.aspx

Eileen doesn't speak to people she speaks at them.  Angry woman and full of low blows. Can't wait for her to whittle her work resume to just "The Young and The Restless".

What exactly has Kim Richards done career wise in the last 30 yrs???  Eileen has won an Emmy for Best Actress - and maintain a 30+ acting career - which is very difficult to do, especially for an actress.  Whereas Kim is just another washed up, high maintenance neurotic child actor, with addiction problems who goes from rehab to rehab, who makes headlines for getting arrested for being a public nuisance.

Edited April 25, 2017 by escape

[zoeysmom]

18 minutes ago, PhilMarlowe2 said:

See, this is why I think Kyle is full of shit and I kind of understand Lisa Rinna's problem with her. Kyle insists she does not need to apologize for her sister - fair enough - but then she will be the first one to go after Lisa for the things she says about Kim. So, in this situation, Kyle has zero to say about Kim's bunny stunt but then acts all outraged when Rinna makes her comment about Kim using her as a meal ticket. Kyle doesn't stay out of Kim's battles - she selectively gets angry on Kim's behalf but then bristles at the idea that she should have to hold Kim at all accountable for her part in things. Kyle is kind of an enabler in that regard.

Rinna's problem with Kyle stems from the fact she keeps breaking promises to Kyle, in spite of numerous times Kyle has forgiven Rinna.  I do think Rinna honestly believes that she was defending Kyle and supporting her Season 5.  It stopped being about Kyle though the minute Rinna sent the texts to Kim.  That was on Rinna and her unfilled chance to have another go at Kim for her Amsterdam comments.  How soon Rinna forgets that Kyle had no problem telling Kim her behavior in Amsterdam was indefensible.   

Well Rinna is fairly inconsistent in her opinions of what Kyle should do.  Kyle should have thrown Kim out Game Night for her treatment of Kyle's guests, according to Rinna.  Then turns around and calls Kyle an enabler.  An enabler would apologize for the alcoholic's behavior, well people let the alcoholic apologize or not.  I thought Kyle was very judicious after telling Rinna she was wrong for the "let's talk about your arrest" comment to say to both of them they just don't mix-like oil and water.

Kim's bunny stunt stands on its own.  Rinna asked Kyle how she felt about it.  Kyle said she doesn't apologize for anything her sister does because it is not her.  Obviously Kyle didn't approve.  I agree with Kyle, Rinna's comment about Rinna being Kim's meal ticket was stupid, she and Kim were the originals and it has been Rinna that keeps bringing up Kim not the other way around.  One can defend without enabling.  The reality this year is Rinna through her comments to Kim, could have been stopped at one episode, but noooooooooo, she decided she needed to talk about her again with Eden.  Then she facilitated a lunch with Eden with Kim's alcoholism being the appetizer, entrée and dessert.  Kyle does have the right separate from his sister to correct Rinna when she twists the truth.  If Kyle's anger with Rinna seems to lie in Rinna's repeated hurtful comments toward Kim, Dorit and PK.  I am quite certain Rinna's next target will be Kyle next year.   Hopefully, Rinna decides to leave Kim out of it.

Bottom line with Rinna is Kim brings out the real Rinna, a mean, vulgar, hateful, jealous woman.

[AndySmith]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

What I don't care for about Eileen, is how she always wants to have a resolution conversation.  It would be great if she (a) didn't screw up and say things such as "two days before my mother died" and become frustrated and condescending to the person with whom she wants resolution conversation.  At Camille's she throws something out there and then feigns, "I don't think a am the bad guy here."  She is.  All Eileen had to do is tell Erika that she and Rinna found the flash amusing until she/they realized Erika was embarrassed/hurt.  It did not need to involve Dorit and it certainly did not need two or three visitations.

Eileen made snotty comments walking into Game Night and then claimed she was happy to see Kim-not what she said on the way in.  Eileen was pissy in Mexico telling people what to do about a conversation she had no part of.  She then went out on the boat and was angry at LVP for calling out Rinna.  She attacked PK after Erika brought him into the conversation. 

All I can say is the reason people don't let Eileen talk is she is just so self-righteous.  She wanted some sort of stupid resolution with Dorit over her mother's death.  Eileen can't have it both ways and demand these resolution conversations, ask a question and then tell someone to stop talking when the conversation doesn't go her way.  No one and I mean no one other than she and Rinna cared if her mother's death impacted her treatment or opinion of LVP.  PK made an observation based on what Rinna said as far as having a different outlook after her father's death and threw Eileen into the mix mentioning the deaths of her family members.  At none time did the Kemsleys question either Rinna or Eileen's grieving process let alone denounce it. 

Again, I don't see what that has to do with her being ANGRY! WOMAN! all the time.

Weren't they all being pissy discussing a conversation none of them, sans Rinna, were a part of? As far as Eileen's comments being snotty and then claiming to be happy to see Kim...it's called being nice to someone. Why start a problem when she can just try and keep things civil?

Attacking is also a strong word. God forbid anyone should have a bit of emotion when discussing certain issues they feel strongly about...

Also, it's kind of strange that you say people don't let Eileen talk but at the same time, she tells others to stop talking...aren't they all then guilty of the same thing?

[zoeysmom]

24 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

 

24 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Again, I don't see what that has to do with her being ANGRY! WOMAN! all the time.

Weren't they all being pissy discussing a conversation none of them, sans Rinna, were a part of? As far as Eileen's comments being snotty and then claiming to be happy to see Kim...it's called being nice to someone. Why start a problem when she can just try and keep things civil?

Attacking is also a strong word. God forbid anyone should have a bit of emotion when discussing certain issues they feel strongly about...

Also, it's kind of strange that you say people don't let Eileen talk but at the same time, she tells others to stop talking...aren't they all then guilty of the same thing?She

To me she is angry or the show doesn't agree with her.  Not since her first season and I really, really liked Eileen has Eileen not been moody about something or someone and finally now it seems she is just always angry, except when it came to Erika's meltdown and then it was "sweet" of Erika to apologize again. 

The others became a part of the conversation when Eden told LVP, LVP told Kyle and the rest discussed it at dinner the night before the party.  Eileen was the only one without a clue as to what was going to be discussed and yet she is the one telling Rinna, "bring her here."  Eileen whined about having to go to Game Night in the limo, on Kyle's front lawn and then she and Rinna groaned and made faces over some comment Kim made about tinkle, tinkle.  This is why I believe Eileen to be angry all the time.  She went to Game Night with the express purpose of bringing up crap and roasting Dorit. . . . again.  Why should Eileen care what PK and Dorit think about her reasons surrounding her unresolved anger towards LVP?   That is what I mean about being angry.  People don't just keep bringing up contentious situations if they are content.

She did attack PK and told him off when it had nothing to do with her.  Once again she ordered someone to be silent.  Eileen for two seasons now has pretty much just inserted her angry self into other people's situations* and not done anything to help matters.  I give her a pass in Hong Kong because I do believe "Resolution Eileen" was headed in the right direction by letting Erika know Dorit didn't commit a heinous act.   That backfired for her.

*I gave Eileen high marks (her first season) for trying to smooth things over between Kim and Kyle at lunch with the three of them and for having Kim over for the script read in spite of the fact Kim had treated her poorly and was an ass at her home.  To me Eileen seemed like she was truly looking to resolve issues. 

[AndySmith]

She hasn't been angry plenty of times.

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The others became a part of the conversation when Eden told LVP, LVP told Kyle and the rest discussed it at dinner the night before the party.  Eileen was the only one without a clue as to what was going to be discussed and yet she is the one telling Rinna, "bring her here."

How do you know Eileen wasn't told off-screen? Also, just because the others were told about, that doesn't mean they were a part of the actual conversation; really, the only people who were involved were Rinna and Eden who were discussing Kim and Kyle.

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This is why I believe Eileen to be angry all the time

Yes, except all those other times where see seemed to be having fun, like when she went roller blading with Rinna and Dorit, or when she looked like she was having fun at the Great Gatsby night and other events.

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She went to Game Night with the express purpose of bringing up crap and roasting Dorit. . . . again.

Actually, she probably went to have fun, like most of the ladies (again, she seemed to be having while the games were happening, but I guess we'll ignore that too to fit into the preposterous Eileen Is Angry Woman All The Time! narrative...

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Why should Eileen care what PK and Dorit think about her reasons surrounding her unresolved anger towards LVP?   That is what I mean about being angry.  People don't just keep bringing up contentious situations if they are content.

Yeah, why would she be angry if she feels they are talking about her?

People also don't just live with one emotion. People are complex being with multiple feelings and emotions. Strange concept, I know, but it is possible to be content with most things in your life but still be angry at a couple of assholes at the same time.

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he did attack PK and told him off when it had nothing to do with her. 

Heaven forbid she jump in to help out a friend...

[thefog]

1 minute ago, zoeysmom said:

She has been angry with LVP for two years.  It is not a good look as she comes off as an angry woman.

She must come off so angry that BRAVO had her and Rinna all over the network promoting the Reunion and the movie Unforgettable.  She must come off so angry that People Magazine just named her one of the Most Beautiful Women - with BRAVO bragging about it.

[WireWrap]

18 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

 

You can still offer support for your friend, even if they are doing just fine. And she wasn't whining at the table, she was comforting and supporting her friend.

Seriously.

But she (and Rinna) would not allow Lisa or Kyle to defend their friend (Dorit). They kept telling Lisa to stay out of it! Double Standard Much? LOL

[AndySmith]

Or maybe LVP just needs to step up and not let herself be "shut down"/"stay out of it"/etc? If she really felt that strongly about Dorit, she could have pushed harder when defending her.

[Martinigirl]

Kyle and LVP most likely don't agree with Dorit

[WireWrap]

8 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Or maybe LVP just needs to step up and not let herself be "shut down"/"stay out of it"/etc? If she really felt that strongly about Dorit, she could have pushed harder when defending her.

Lisa has never been one to shout over others, which is what would have been required! LOL

5 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Kyle and LVP most likely don't agree with Dorit

Lisa has said that Dorit "Likes to talk" too much but that she was never mean or tried to hurt Erika in any way. So, Yes, Lisa likes Dorit and Kyle/Mauricio, Lisa/Ken see Dorit/PK socially, going out to dinner/drinks with them. They are all friends in real life. That can't be said of Erika, Eileen and Rinna, who don't do things with each other unless there are cameras around. LOL

[AndySmith]

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Lisa has never been one to shout over others, which is what would have been required! LOL

She doesn't need to shout over other to get her point across, or to express herself, if she really wanted to...

[WireWrap]

11 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

She doesn't need to shout over other to get her point across, or to express herself, if she really wanted to...

No, she would have had to shout to be heard over the others attacking Dorit. She and Kyle both said things in Dorit's defense each time but that didn't stop Eileen and Rinna from telling them to stay out of it, that it didn't involve "them", like it involved Eileen/Rinna at all either. LOL

[AndySmith]

As we've seen previously, neither women are shrinking violets when it comes to confrontations when they feel they want or need to get involved. They could have just as easily pressed on and stayed in the conversation...had they really wanted to.

[WireWrap]

10 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

As we've seen previously, neither women are shrinking violets when it comes to confrontations when they feel they want or need to get involved. They could have just as easily pressed on and stayed in the conversation...had they really wanted to.

Nahhh,  Dorit was doing fine defending herself and didn't require a "team" to help her. Both Lisa and Kyle said what they wanted and weren't going to get into a shouting match with Eileen/Rinna because they knew it would not help anyone, even Dorit.

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[AndySmith]

If Dorit didn't require a team they wouldn't have gotten involved to begin with, they would have just sat back all through it. The fact that they were shouted down or told to stay out of it, and they did, means they might have had more to say, but really seem to want to enough.

[WireWrap]

7 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

If Dorit didn't require a team they wouldn't have gotten involved to begin with, they would have just sat back all through it. The fact that they were shouted down or told to stay out of it, and they did, means they might have had more to say, but really seem to want to enough.

I disagree. Both Lisa and Kyle had information they thought Erika needed to hear, I suspect they thought Erika was given bad information (aka lies) about what Dorit/PK actually said. They said it, refused to engage in a shouting match and allowed Dorit to handle it. Not every disagreement requires the others join in and maybe had Dorit/Erika been able to both have their say without Eileen/Rinna interjection their "opinions" into it, things would have been settled there. Of course, had Erika been honest with Dorit, that she was hurt/embarrassed, up front instead of saying she was "good" that she was "fine", maybe this would not have morphed into what it now is. LOL