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KCDC said that if the Democrats win back the house, they will have subpoena power. The Trump organization will be investigated every day for 2 years. It will shut down the government from dealing with any issues. The Democrats will run in 2020 on Trump is corrupt. Impeaching Trump is not a top priority, but forcing a weakened Trump to confront the Democratic nominee.

Eugene Robinson is mad at the Sclapp family for taking a Limo to the NBC after party & buying a $3 million house. Eugene is mad that Trump is turning people into "Real Americans" vs the Media Elite.

Mika is muttering about porn stars again!

Eugene wants Democrats to be considered to be real people as well.

Joe is mad that the tax cuts helped the richest Americans.

Joe is mad at Trump for not being populist. Joe is mad that Hannity makes more money than him.

Eugene said Democrats should not say that they are out of touch with the real America.

Joe is now mad at Democrats. Joe admitted that Democrats did well on the East & WEst Coast.

Eugene said the Democrats have to build from the ground up.

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They finally covered Melania's surgery & Harry Reid's pancreatic .

Joe is mad at the weather & the rain. Joe is reading his cellphone & derailing Mika's conversation.

How do we solve the problem like Karins? Blame Karins for the weather.

Joe lost his glasses.

KCDC finally got her lightning intro. Let's forget about the victims of Gaza.

Andrea is back. James Stavridis has a long title. Mika trashed his title.

Andrea gave a commencement speech.

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

They finally covered Melania's surgery & Harry Reid's pancreatic .

Joe is mad at the weather & the rain. Joe is reading his cellphone & derailing Mika's conversation.

How do we solve the problem like Karins? Blame Karins for the weather.

I like Karins.  I have seen him pinch hit in the early morning hours and he did a great job.  He's smart, quick on his feet and can successfully read a teleprompter (and he's not frumpy).

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I have to say I really enjoyed that conversation about Pence putting distance between himself and Trump (that I knew) but I guess his efforts have been accelerated to accommodate a 2020 run as he knows there is going to be an opening at the top of the ticket so to speak.  He also has to watch out for Nikki Haley.  I knew most of it already but it was interesting to hear all the dots connected on air plus no one was trampled during the discussion.

And may I say Phil Rucker looked very sporty today in his check suit coat! 

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Eugene was asked about the inspiration behind his latest WaPo op-ed and as it turns out, long explanation short, sometimes Trump just bugs the shit out of Eugene. And then they discussed. Joe is O Ver E Nun Ci A Ting because he is On One.

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I tuned in for the 8:00/repeat of an earlier hour.  Just in time to hear the introduction of KCDC and Meeka asking where the lightning bolt was...never noticed it before but she is really passive aggressive, isn't she?  Like she is so happy to see Kasey but just has to demean her a little.    And then Joe cut her (Meeka) off.  For me, that made the whole show.  Wonder how Meeka would feel if they used a sound intro for her?  And it was in bad taste and annoying to boot.  

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4 minutes ago, Kemper said:

And it was in bad taste and annoying to boot. 

Exactly and she knew it was in poor taste but still had to push for it because it's "hers".  Blech.

Apparently she likes Jacob (so do I) as he got a "good job!" out of her.  It was a good segment, I like both him and my beloved whirling dervish Steve Kornacki.

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I can't believe it, they just spent 10 minutes on a video about Pennsylvania elections where I live--Lehigh Valley.  I thought I was on the wrong channel!

I heard on another station that AvenHottie may be dating Christie Brinkley.  They also said that he is not squinty and has never worn fleece (I made up the last sentence...)

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10 minutes ago, suomi said:

Eugene was asked about the inspiration behind his latest WaPo op-ed and as it turns out, long explanation short, sometimes Trump just bugs the shit out of Eugene. And then they discussed. Joe is O Ver E Nun Ci A Ting because he is On One.

I'm going to have to read his op-ed today as it sounds like it will cheer me up.  Thanks Suomi for highlighting this!

2 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

I can't believe it, they just spent 10 minutes on a video about Pennsylvania elections where I live--Lehigh Valley.  I thought I was on the wrong channel!

Get out!  If you happen to see Jacob today please tell him chloesmom is a big fan! . . . hee!

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Who is this slimebag?  Oh the chairman of some betting site . . . yeah just what we need, to gin up more "enthusiasm" during sports contests when watching at home as those are always so polite now.

eta:  oh and more good news.  Sports team's value will double in value while people who probably can't afford it throw stupid money at them.  Sigh, I have to go read Eugene Robinson's op-ed now . . . 

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1 hour ago, Chloesmom said:

Yikes, Joe just steamrolled right over Mika in closing out that last segment.  He must be in a mood and a half.  Back to the bunker with you Joe!

Has he been doing it all morning? I was watching at the lead for the China story and he told her she was taking too long and just interrupted her to do his own thing. I left after that. They really need someone who knows her value to make a clip of just one week's worth of Joe being a sexist douche-canoe, sit them all down and show it all at once -- and then actually do something to fix their set's culture.

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I saw a new MSNBC promo this morning. It looked like nearly all of their talking heads except for these two. (Unless I missed them - altho I saw it twice.) I was thinking OK, it's just the evening lineup but then I saw Stephanie Ruhle and Joy Reid and they're morning peeps.

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6 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

Has he been doing it all morning? I was watching at the lead for the China story and he told her she was taking too long and just interrupted her to do his own thing. I left after that. They really need someone who knows her value to make a clip of just one week's worth of Joe being a sexist douche-canoe, sit them all down and show it all at once -- and then actually do something to fix their set's culture.

He does seem to be more boorish than usual today but showing him/her clips aren't going to change the climate on that set.  Joe's been a smarmy tool since he first joined the network and Mika and her multiple personalities doesn't help.  Their show is the only show that has this vibe.  You can put the exact same guests on different shows and the viewing experience is a 180.  I've been watching more this week because CNN has David Gregory on and he irritates me more than they do.  I look forward to either Cuomo coming back or Berman starting his permanent gig so I can go back to ND.

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12 minutes ago, suomi said:

I saw a new MSNBC promo this morning. It looked like nearly all of their talking heads except for these two. (Unless I missed them - altho I saw it twice.) I was thinking OK, it's just the evening lineup but then I saw Stephanie Ruhle and Joy Reid and they're morning peeps.

Oh phooey, I glanced up when it was on but wasn't paying attention.  I'll watch for it and hopefully it'll be in their PR rotation for other shows too as I would like to see it.

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I'm kind of surprised JoMika didn't get MSNBC to pay for them to go to London for the wedding.    Oh, look! This is how two people who are actually in love treat each other! How interesting. Harry doesn't berate her in front of others, and Meghan actually does know her value. She's been standing up for women since she was a young girl, she got Procter & Gamble to change an ad campaign so it didn't berate women as just the homemakers. 

Gosh Mika. What have you done except write books about yourself and tell others how to live their lives? 

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28 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

Gosh Mika. What have you done except write books about yourself and tell others how to live their lives? 

Off the top of my head:

Broke up two marriages (although now that everything is said and done I would bet Susan is more than good with it now)

Uses her children as props on Instagram when she is taking a pounding on Twitter

Uses her pets as props on Instagram when she is taking a pounding on Twitter

Missed her opportunity to teach Creative Remembering 101 (aka I'm not complicit, you're complicit)

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1 hour ago, teddysmom said:

I'm kind of surprised JoMika didn't get MSNBC to pay for them to go to London for the wedding.    Oh, look! This is how two people who are actually in love treat each other! How interesting. Harry doesn't berate her in front of others, and Meghan actually does know her value. She's been standing up for women since she was a young girl, she got Procter & Gamble to change an ad campaign so it didn't berate women as just the homemakers. 

Gosh Mika. What have you done except write books about yourself and tell others how to live their lives? 

Mika &Joe did host Morning Joe from London when Kate & William got married. 

Katy Kay was the royal correspondent.

Joe interviewed a few people in the UK government.

 The show was fun & it allowed Joe & Mika some time together away from their spouses.

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3 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

I have to say I really enjoyed that conversation about Pence putting distance between himself and Trump (that I knew) but I guess his efforts have been accelerated to accommodate a 2020 run as he knows there is going to be an opening at the top of the ticket so to speak.  He also has to watch out for Nikki Haley.  I knew most of it already but it was interesting to hear all the dots connected on air plus no one was trampled during the discussion.

And may I say Phil Rucker looked very sporty today in his check suit coat! 

I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump did not run in 2020. Did the show discuss Pence hiring Corey Leendowski?

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14 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika &Joe did host Morning Joe from London when Kate & William got married. 

Which was in 2011.  That awful picture of Meeks on that desk was published in September 2012 the same month Joe filed for divorce from Susan.  And then they are offended when people throw shade at them.

1 minute ago, oakville said:

I wouldn’t be shocked if Trump did not run in 2020. Did the show discuss Pence hiring Corey Leendowski?

I guess it's wishful thinking on my part but I was more taking it as they know Mueller has the goods on Trump and he won't be a factor in the 2020 elections.  I did not hear/see anything about Lewandowski but it is yet another interesting piece of the political pie that is the Trump White House.

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I've been MJ-free for about two weeks now and I'm doing fine.  The days seem a little longer, less stressful.   I'm not as engaged in the news.  Trump's antics no longer set the tone of my day as they did when I listened to Scarborough ranting about them before breakfast.   I know Scarborough and Mika are hypocrites but they seemed like useful hypocrites up until the morning following Michelle Wolf's appearance at the Nerd Prom.   That's when I realized the rent was too damn high and shut them off for good.   I highly recommend it to everyone.

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1 minute ago, millennium said:

I've been MJ-free for about two weeks now and I'm doing fine.  The days seem a little longer, less stressful.   I'm not as engaged in the news.  Trump's antics no longer set the tone of my day as they did when I listened to Scarborough ranting about them before breakfast.   I know Scarborough and Mika are flagrant hypocrites but they seemed like useful hypocrites up until the morning following Michelle Wolf's appearance at the Nerd Prom.   That's when I realized the rent was too damn high and shut them off for good.   I highly recommend it to everyone.

I miss your analysis!. I admit to not watching as much Morning Joe. I still try to do mini recaps for historical record

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15 minutes ago, oakville said:

I miss your analysis!. I admit to not watching as much Morning Joe. I still try to do mini recaps for historical record

I do miss the snark opportunities and the fun here every day.   Mika's defense of Sarah Sanders (and p-whipped Douchebro's chiming in) was just more than I could stomach.

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23 minutes ago, millennium said:

I've been MJ-free for about two weeks now and I'm doing fine.  The days seem a little longer, less stressful.   I'm not as engaged in the news.  Trump's antics no longer set the tone of my day as they did when I listened to Scarborough ranting about them before breakfast.   I know Scarborough and Mika are hypocrites but they seemed like useful hypocrites up until the morning following Michelle Wolf's appearance at the Nerd Prom.   That's when I realized the rent was too damn high and shut them off for good.   I highly recommend it to everyone.

I was off work for a few days last week and didn't watch much either.  It is very relaxing to not have this insanity blaring at you morning and night.  

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9 hours ago, suomi said:

I saw a new MSNBC promo this morning. It looked like nearly all of their talking heads except for these two. (Unless I missed them - altho I saw it twice.) I was thinking OK, it's just the evening lineup but then I saw Stephanie Ruhle and Joy Reid and they're morning peeps.

I just saw more of it just now before Hardball and it looks like it is promoting their up and coming line up of intrepid reporters/those that have been given prime spots to hone their skills or those that have a firm grasp on their timeslot.

I did not see the Coosome Twosome.

Now for something totally different, The Mooch on Hardball . . . you can't make this stuff up anymore.

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21 hours ago, cased said:

I totally agree. I was just thinking the same thing, and “overcompensating” was also the word I was thinking. I get that Mika is proud of her daughter graduating from college, but I think she is going WAY overboard with all the baby photos. 

She's still going! There's no end in sight!

Something has to be going on here. I was looking at the comments on one of the baby pics and her other daughter, the one Oakville said was dropped down the stairs and spent her baby year in traction, commented with something like "I don't look like this in any of my baby pics." I felt the shady chill all the way here in Queens. Lol. 

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2 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

She's still going! There's no end in sight!

Something has to be going on here. I was looking at the comments on one of the baby pics and her other daughter, the one Oakville said was dropped down the stairs and spent her baby year in traction, commented with something like "I don't look like this in any of my baby pics." I felt the shady chill all the way here in Queens. Lol. 

I do believe this comes under the heading of "you can run but you can't hide" . . . 

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I started watching this in January of 2017 after retiring. I initially found it satisfying to hear them when they started turning on Trump and I would actually set my alarm to wake up for it.  I think, like everyone else, I've just grown weary of Joe & Mika's shenanigans, and really weary of all things Trump.  I do appreciate coming here to read what you guys are saying because now I mostly just turn it on for a short time and then start my day.

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Wednesday Recap. Mika & Joe are on set. Good discussion about North Korea. Comedy routine with Mika & Joe trying to goad Trump into meeting with Mueller.

Joe said he was right about Obama being naive with Iran.

Joe gave several of greatest Talking points tour. Joe said he was right aboutReagan.

Mika the frumpy Librarian is back. She is beaming at Joe. Mika & Joe think that they are Gracie & Allen show or Ricky & Lucie.

Heidi gets the library

Heilemann is on set.

Trump is being taking for a fool & is a bad negotiator according to Joe.

Joe said Trump is a day trader & a failed businessman.

Why won't America listen to Joe ?

Joe admitted that Gina Haspel will get confirmed. he did not say that several democrats are supporting her. keep Quiet Joe. No one will find out about Warner voting for Haspel.

It's a classic Morning Joe show today.

Tim Ryan from Ohio is a good guest. I hope he runs for President. He seems to be a reasonable Democrat.

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For me, Joe offers no new insight - Trump is a day trader is not new nor does it elucidate anything - and Mika offers no insight. The people that may say something interesting - the guests - aren’t allowed to talk or Joe talks over them. Mika’s sighs and muttering add nothing. It’s clear that they find each other fascinating. I’m just not sure why. They have gotten boring and occasionally insufferable. Time for a break from the show. 

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I tuned in just in time to see the man and woman (sorry, but I don't know their names and don't recall seeing them before...both were passionate) giving their strong opinions over the Palestinian situation and Hamas; I found it really interesting.  And they actually got to talk for a bit and have a pretty good back-and-forth.  Then.  Joe started bloviating...loudly.  He surely does remember  the success(es) of the Reagan administration; as do all Republicans who bring them up as talking points on MJ.  But Joe kept going and going; I am not sure he if stopped for breath; Meeka looked fascinated by his every word.  The entire rhythm of the show came to a halt so Joe could brag on his conservative credentials; oh, and he managed to work Zbig into his trip down memory lane;  Meeka coyly asked him to stop. I cannot cannot believe his audacity and ego which seem to be getting bigger.  Please please  someone make him stop talking.  I switched to New Day then CBS This Morning.  It gave my ears a break; this morning is the first time that his quiet shouting has made me immediately flip the channel.  He must exhaust himself.

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24 minutes ago, may flowers said:

For me, Joe offers no new insight - Trump is a day trader is not new nor does it elucidate anything - and Mika offers no insight. The people that may say something interesting - the guests - aren’t allowed to talk or Joe talks over them. Mika’s sighs and muttering add nothing. It’s clear that they find each other fascinating. I’m just not sure why. They have gotten boring and occasionally insufferable. Time for a break from the show. 

Today, Joe bashed Obama for being naive about Israel

Joe bashed George w Bush for being wrong about Iraq & building a Jeffersonian Democracy .

Joe bashed Trump for not understanding history

Joe raised Reagan for being tough with Gorbachev in Rekyavik

Joe said being tough on the Soviets ended up ending the Cold War in 1989

Joe bashed Trump for not getting concessions from Israel in exchange for the embassy being moved to Jerusalem

Joe once again admitted to voting for the embassy to be moved to Jerusalem, but the timing wasn’t right

They played the Peanuts clip of Lucy & the football. The North Koreans always play this game with the USA.

Chang did some research on North Korea. The Chinese are weakening

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5 minutes ago, oakville said:

Chang did some research on North Korea. The Chinese are weakening

Oakville, when you have a moment could you expand on this please as I turned it off after the Israel/Palestine discussion which was really interesting until Joe had to insert himself into the conversation and hijack everything.  Toad.

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The Chinese are not enforcing sanctions against North Korea. Gas prices are falling in North Korea.

The cChinese do not want North Korea to reunite with S Korea. They don’t want a USA ally on their border.

Joe said the Chinese have long term objectives. Trump is a fool that only thinks 1 day ahead.

Joe trashed Trump as a failed businessman who had run up $9 billion in debt.

I wish had had the guts to trash Trump to his face in 2015 & 2016.

However, ratings are the most important thing for Joe.

I hope Mika doesn’t let Joe give part of his ratings bonus to Heidi or Kasie or Elise Jordan

Mika tried to imitate Trump by repearing the words , Chiiina,

Joe also did impressions.

Did they discuss any of the primary results in Pennsylvania.?

On a personal note, I will be doing recaps from sunny Sarasota this December.  My bunker will have a view of the Gulf of Mexico.

I think I would like to do a snarky podcast about Mika & Joes antics one day after I retire.

1 minute ago, Chloesmom said:

Oakville, when you have a moment could you expand on this please as I turned it off after the Israel/Palestine discussion which was really interesting until Joe had to insert himself into the conversation and hijack everything.  Toad.

Seethe post below. Chang said the Chinese are in cahoots with North Korea. Kim went to China twice in the last few months.

Joe said Trump didn’t get his advisors to help him prepare for North Korea.

Joe said Trump comes u with ideas on a whim

Joe blasted Trump for his tweet about saving the Chinese company.

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28 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Meeka looked fascinated by his every word.

And therein lies her appeal for him.  I certainly can't think of anything else.  Okay, maybe one thing, but eeeeewww.

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Oakville, this last post of yours is prime stuff!!!

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He surely does remember  the success(es) of the Reagan administration; as do all Republicans who bring them up as talking points on MJ.

Blerrggg.  I hate when they talk about Reagan.

I was driving so could not see whether the speaker was a R or a D but since he thought there was nothing wrong with Trump supporting China, I assume an R. He had a Southern accent (Which to me also spells R, although that's a stupid assumption of mine)  And SHS is spinning the old "Trump is a Master Gamesman" schtick."  I would pay cash money for SHS  to one day just drop the mic, unclasp her pearls and walk away.  But she stays, her eyes becoming more and more soul-less every day.

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Recently, I've been enjoying the last 1/2 to an hour of the show.  This morning, Katie Couric is on and they are talking about political correctness and the last of her series called America Inside Out. I like the author interviews.

I briefly checked in a couple of times earlier but caught the show once when Joe was was going on and on about whatever (tuned him out), when Joe was bashing past Presidents, and later when Mika was muttering while he was talking.  I've been trying to stay away from the negativity about the show, but am getting tired of the sameness.  One option is to watch the last hour only and then pick up Stephanie Ruhle for the latest news. We use this time for breakfast and to talk and read the newspaper.  This would make for a late morning for us. By 8am I'm usually ready to step away from the TV.

It looks like Mika and Joe think that the part of the show where she mutters is entertaining. Another part of their shtick is when Mika begins to read something and Joe acts like no one would do or say what she is reading about, and he over talks her.  I am becoming convinced that this is all planned but it has gone on too long.

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13 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

The Mooch on Hardball . . . you can't make this stuff up anymore.

He was on The Opposition Monday night. I don't think he knew it was satire. 

So this morning Mika is questioning whether it's okay for her daughter to binge watch The Office?  Just enough, you fucking idiot.  The list of awards this show was nominated for and/or won is as long as your arm. Peabody, Emmys, Creative Emmys, Golden Globe, ALMA, GLAAD, Producers Guild, NAACP. That's not even half of them.    

Fuck you Mika.   

That's what she said. 

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How old is the daughter that wants to binge watch?  Where has Meeka been the last 10 years?  God, how can a woman on teevee every morning be so ignorant of any type of pop culture.  It is an act and it is not cute; which is what she is going for.  Again...can't be said enough....I cannot cannot stand her.  Wish someone would play music when Joe has bloviated too long...like they do at awards shows.  Let's them know it is time to get off stage.

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1 hour ago, navelgazer said:

Bari Weiss, again.  She's getting her talking points out, that's for sure. 

Blech. 

agree.

This is a terrible situation, but Israel is making it worse instead of better. There is no reason for Netanyahu to be such an asshole, other than he's Israel's version of Donald Trump and plays to his base of hardliners.  A more moderate leader could show compassion for the Palestinians, and help them to get democratic elections and get out from under Hamas & the PLO. Instead he just keeps taking more land, imposing more restrictions and then he can say "see I told you they're nothing but terrorists". 

And that Nicki Haley bitch walking out of the UN meeting when the Palestinian entered the room. 

Yeah, that helps. 

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4 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

He was on The Opposition Monday night. I don't think he knew it was satire. 

So this morning Mika is questioning whether it's okay for her daughter to binge watch The Office?  Just enough, you fucking idiot.  The list of awards this show was nominated for and/or won is as long as your arm. Peabody, Emmys, Creative Emmys, Golden Globe, ALMA, GLAAD, Producers Guild, NAACP. That's not even half of them.    

Fuck you Mika.   

That's what she said. 

? W-H-A-T? Her daughters are grown adults, why is she even concerned with what they watch.  

I bet her girls are questioning whether it’s ok for her to sleep with her boss. Maybe that can be the next family discssion on MJ. 

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Just now, Kemper said:

How old is the daughter that wants to binge watch?

Aren't they both in their 20s? 

It's The Office, Mika, it was on prime time tv, it's not a snuff film you twit. 

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W-H-A-T? Her daughters are grown adults, why is she even concerned with what they watch.  

They showed a clip of Carell I didn't catch which episode it was from. (I've watched it so much I could probably tell from just the scene).

She got all flustered as everyone was laughing and said "My daughter is watching it all the time (or something to that effect) is that okay???"

I thought Joe was going to smack her.  He Willie & Heileman then talked about the genius of it, and she kept trying to read her little spiel on the teleprompter. 

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1 hour ago, navelgazer said:

Bari Weiss, again.  She's getting her talking points out, that's for sure. 

Blech. 

She's awful. When she was a student at Columbia she tried to have Muslim professors fired because they are Muslim (and that made her uncomfortable, or something). She actually says out loud and in public that Palestinians, adults and children, died for the PR and photo op.

Joe's crush on her says a lot about him, even if he is trying to hide it these days.

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13 minutes ago, madfortv said:

It looks like Mika and Joe think that the part of the show where she mutters is entertaining. Another part of their shtick is when Mika begins to read something and Joe acts like no one would do or say what she is reading about, and he over talks her.  I am becoming convinced that this is all planned but it has gone on too long.

YES  x 1,000,000.  This show has morphed into bad sit-com territory.   It's embarrassing for me as a woman to watch her sit there, taking on barbs and insults and dismissive behavior from her so-called boyfriend, while touting that Know Your Worth stuff.  Seriously, how clueless can one person be????   It very likely could be all planned out by the two of them; in the end, it only makes Meek-a look dumb and bullied.  What a hypocrite. 

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2 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

She's awful.

Yes, she is. 

Joe isn't the only middle-aged white boy to have a crush on Bari.  Count Bill Maher in that same fan club as she's scheduled to be on Real Time this Friday, which means I'm very likely to skip it. 

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13 minutes ago, XOQueens said:

oe's crush on her says a lot about him, even if he is trying to hide it these days.

He's not one of those Rapture in Israel idiots is he?  That's why the Evangelicals etc support Israel so much. They could give a shit about Jews, they need to be there when the big God space ship shows up to take them to that Golden Corral in the sky. 

Yeah this is another Bill Maher I won't be watching. 

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On ‎5‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 8:04 AM, suomi said:

I saw a new MSNBC promo this morning. It looked like nearly all of their talking heads except for these two. (Unless I missed them - altho I saw it twice.) I was thinking OK, it's just the evening lineup but then I saw Stephanie Ruhle and Joy Reid and they're morning peeps.

Ok, I've seen about two or maybe three of the new promos and I think the reason why the Butch and Sundance aren't included in them is because they aren't journalists.  Just a couple of talking/bulldozing/teleprompter reading heads.  I can't believe they let Ronan Farrow go and keep these two around.

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9 hours ago, teddysmom said:

Just enough, you fucking idiot. 

Oh goodness you do have a way with words my friend . . . I almost splurted my Aldi sangria all over my laptop . . . :)

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