Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[oakville]

The interview with DeSantis began at 947 am.

Joe said they would focus on Israel . Joe invited DeSantis back for another interview. later.

DeSantis had good knowledge about the history of Israel. He said Florida has a large Jewish community & everyone is hurting.

DeSantis does support Israel defending itself & it shouldn't be afraid of any backlash from the UN.

DeSantis brought up his service in Iraq. Iranian-backed militias killed Americans in Falujjah.

DeSantis wants more sanctions on Iran. They shouldn't use money to fund terrorism.

Joe said Iran has sponsored terrorism since 1979.

DeSantis said money is fungible. Iran could use money from different sources to fund terrorism.

DeSantis implied that he wouldn't support the Trump waiver.

He blamed Obama & Biden for being too dovish on Iran.

Joe said Netanyahu's indictments may have distracted him.  He said Haaretz was a left-wing newspaper.

Joe doesn't want Biden campaigning from his basement. Trump shouldn't keep documents in a toilet.

 

[tres bien]

Too bad Joe didn't ask DeSantis if he cares about the Jewish community in FL why he's never condemned the white nationalists that show up even in front of Disney World carrying flags with swastikas.

Sounds like it wasn't a very in depth interview 

[Kemper]

10 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Sounds like it wasn't a very in depth interview 

We’re talking Joe “Back when I was in Congress” Scarborough. What did Meeka’s dad call him? Stunningly superficial? Was Meeka present? 

[SeanBug]

35 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Too bad Joe didn't ask DeSantis if he cares about the Jewish community in FL why he's never condemned the white nationalists that show up even in front of Disney World carrying flags with swastikas.

Sounds like it wasn't a very in depth interview 

Caring about Israel so you get raptured up to Heaven with your Evangelical base, and caring about the American Jewish community are two entirely different things. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by SeanBug

[tres bien]

35 minutes ago, SeanBug said:

Caring about Israel so you get raptured up to Heaven with your Evangelical base, and caring about the American Jewish community are two entirely different things. 

Yep. As I posted earlier Rule #1 don't upset the base 

[oakville]

2 hours ago, SeanBug said:

Caring about Israel so you get raptured up to Heaven with your Evangelical base, and caring about the American Jewish community are two entirely different things. 

Joe forgot to tell DeSantis that he was awarded the Key to the City of Jerusalem when he was in Congress for his support of Israel.

[tres bien]

After his humiliating interview with DeSantis yesterday Joe couldn't pull his self out of his bunker this morning. He couldn't ask the tough questions, hold DeSantis accountable so his whitewashed interview has him hiding out this morning 

[millennium]

(probably) unpopular opinion:  too much coverage of Israel/Palestine conflict.   Not just on Morning Joe but every show on MSNBC for the past three days.

Yes, it's huge and should be covered by the news.  But at the same time, we have some urgent problems back home as the future of our democracy hangs in the balance.   Pushing all national stories off to the side so the network can do wall-to-wall coverage of the Middle East is a disservice not only to viewers but to the nation.   Why can't cable news handle more than one crisis at a time anymore? 

[oakville]

On 10/11/2023 at 6:25 AM, tres bien said:

After his humiliating interview with DeSantis yesterday Joe couldn't pull his self out of his bunker this morning. He couldn't ask the tough questions, hold DeSantis accountable so his whitewashed interview has him hiding out this morning 

Joe returned today. He Joesplained the issue of Israel ending the occupation of Gaza in 2005 to the Israeli Press spokesperson. He agreed with all of Joe's points. Joe said aid to Gaza is used by Hamas to make tunnels.

[oakville]

The interview with Michael Oren was very moving.

[oakville]

In the 3rd hour, Joe went on a long rant against President Trump. Joe said Trump has to stop praising dictators.  Joe is mad at Trump for insulting allies.

Lemire agreed with Joe. He can't believe that Republicans would nominate Trump again.

Joe said Trump should not show war plans about Iran to random people at Mar A Largo.

[oakville]

Joe also went on a rant against Harvard students that supported Hamas. Joe said there is too much anti semitism on college campuses.

[tres bien]

Yesterday solo Mika did a very good job and I was thrilled when she slapped Heilemann down for his crazy $6 billion talk which was inaccurate but he blathered on.

Besides what the hell is wrong with him? He sounded half awake and incoherent 

[Kemper]

I think Heilemann has been checked out for quite awhile. 

[oakville]

Joe was left alone in the Jupiter bunker today. Mika is in the studio today. She is wearing a black jacket.

Joe was happy the US government listened to him and froze the $6 billion in Qatar that was supposed to go to Iran. Joe wants to tighten the screws on Iran so they stop funding Hamas.

Joe is mad at the House Republicans for not picking a Speaker.

Joe is mad at Trump for praising Hezbollah & attacking Israel .

 

Joe said he led the charge to get rid of Newt Gingrich as speaker.

[oakville]

There was a special tribute to Mike Barnicle today. He turned 80 years old !

They showed clips from early episodes of Morning Joe.

Joe called him one of the best columnists in Boston history.

Joe said he wakes up early & likes to work with family.

Mika hugged Mike at the end of the segment.

[Kemper]

So Mika was wearing a black jacket? At first I thought it was a detective-y black trench coat. Then I thought if she added a pearl necklace she would be going to a ball…or opera. It was draped. But she seemed better without Joe bombasting next to her. At least the part I watched.

[jenkait]

On 10/12/2023 at 12:45 PM, Kemper said:

I think Heilemann has been checked out for quite awhile. 

I'm pretty sure it's Nicolle Wallace he likes, he acts like such a buffoon around her 🙄

Never been a Heileman fan. 

Just now, jenkait said:

I'm pretty sure it's Nicolle Wallace he likes, he acts like such a buffoon around her 🙄

Never been a Heileman fan. 

LOL Kemper, I thought you said he was checking MIKA out. I just went back to your comment and realized you said he WAS check out. Oh good grief 😂

[ButterQueen]

I haven’t watched in a couple years….the election wore me out.

Anyway, WTH has Mika done to her face/eyes?

[oakville]

Joe was happy that the centrist parties won the elections in Poland. Joe said the new government will support Ukraine. Tusk supports Western democracy.

[Kemper]

5 hours ago, ButterQueen said:

I haven’t watched in a couple years….the election wore me out.

Anyway, WTH has Mika done to her face/eyes?

I wondered the same thing a week or two ago. I have been visiting kids and grands…and experienced a…what is it? 4000 something picture tv. Is it 4000g? And the tv was huge! Because of course it was. 🤓 Poor Meeka, what on earth has she done! It has aged her. She is a very attractive woman but this recent work has made it kind of hard to look at her. I know most every woman on tv has had cosmetic surgery; sadly, the business is what it is. But Meeka’s seems more glaring than most. Hopefully it will settle in. Today I am back home so can whine with my cat. And watch my apparently blurry tv.

Edited October 16, 2023 by Kemper

[plumbago blues]

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

Poor Meeka, what on earth has she done! It has aged her.

Glad that I was not the only one who thought something was "off". Tuned in last week and, OMG, a certified trout pout! Real Housewives' worthy. Her whole face looks...what, severe? Not in the least bit attractive. Caught her (again) in her lying "Come to Jesus" post of a few years back, that she was done with all the tweaks and tucks and would just embrace aging. She looks awful. I also expected to see her wrapped in the colors of the Israeli flag and a vase of the country's flowers. Guess that was just a Ukrainian thing. I'm done checking in this show. The hosts and the guests/format are just boring. And so irritating.

[ButterQueen]

19 hours ago, plumbago blues said:

Glad that I was not the only one who thought something was "off". Tuned in last week and, OMG, a certified trout pout! Real Housewives' worthy. Her whole face looks...what, severe? Not in the least bit attractive. Caught her (again) in her lying "Come to Jesus" post of a few years back, that she was done with all the tweaks and tucks and would just embrace aging. She looks awful. I also expected to see her wrapped in the colors of the Israeli flag and a vase of the country's flowers. Guess that was just a Ukrainian thing. I'm done checking in this show. The hosts and the guests/format are just boring. And so irritating.

It’s almost as if she stretched her face vertically.  It’s very masculine,

 

[SeanBug]

Well I guess we know who Morning Joe is backing in the Republican primary.

Chris Christie.  It seems he's on at least once a week now. 

News flash Joe: he's not going to ask you to run his campaign or be his chief of staff, or whatever fever dream you're having about getting back into politics. 

 

[Kemper]

Remember when Mark Halperin was a regular and he was on the list of “Most Punchable Faces” from some group/social media? Cannot remember. Well, Christie’s got a punchable voice. I grab the remote whenever he is on. Do Joe and Mika ever learn? Joe is a polished Christie a lot of the time. Bombast and ego.

[SeanBug]

5 hours ago, Kemper said:

Remember when Mark Halperin was a regular and he was on the list of “Most Punchable Faces” from some group/social media? Cannot remember. Well, Christie’s got a punchable voice. I grab the remote whenever he is on. Do Joe and Mika ever learn? Joe is a polished Christie a lot of the time. Bombast and ego.

I did like Mika and Heileman going after him for his bs answers re Jordan. "You haven't met Putin, have an opinion on him?"

 

[millennium]

On 10/17/2023 at 1:14 PM, ButterQueen said:

It’s almost as if she stretched her face vertically.  It’s very masculine,

Her face seems to have changed a lot in the last few months.  I was attributing it to radical contouring.   I'm not sure.   I was trying to picture what her face must look like when she comes out of the shower and found myself stymied.   She looks like a Mika celebrity double now.

So I tuned in at 6 am hoping for some news about the fiasco in the House of Representatives.   Not only did I find Scarborough absent, but as of 6:30 am there hadn't been a word about national news.   Just Gaza-Hamas, Gaza-Hamas, Gaza-Hamas.  Click.  

I have also been turning off the show every time David Ignatius appears.

[chick binewski]

As usual it was worth the 90 minute chorus of umms from Mika today to watch her barely tolerate Christie. Joe's the only one who lets his bullshit fly.

Edited October 19, 2023 by chick binewski

[oakville]

Joe discussed his time in Congress. It was a very productive time for Congress. Joe worked with Clinton to get many reforms done and balanced the budget. Joe wants Congress to get its act together.

[tres bien]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Joe discussed his time in Congress. It was a very productive time for Congress. Joe worked with Clinton to get many reforms done and balanced the budget. Joe wants Congress to get its act together.

Yes don't we all.

I don't mind Joe reminiscing about his days in Congress especially today when he rattled off all the accomplishments makes me yearn for yesteryear.

I wish Joe would run for something. We're being denied his political genius 

[SeanBug]

Does Joe ever mention it was his mentor Gingrich who gave the Speaker position the power to shut down the government, and when Gingrich was ready to compromise with Clinton, Joe threw one of his well known hissy fits. 

It wasn't all puppies and ice cream.  Joe was part of a group of younger members of Congress called the New Federalists. Has he talked about his wanting to shut down the Dept of Education?  Cut ties with the UN? 

No?  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/12/before-scarborough-left-the-gop-he-led-a-congressional-revolt-and-tried-to-cut-ties-with-the-un/

[Kemper]

Joe has an idyllic memory of Back When He Was In Congress. Has he ever had Newt on? They could relive their shared glory days. 

[tres bien]

Richard Haas is insufferable

Edited October 20, 2023 by tres bien

[Kemper]

Well, all of The Regulars become insufferable at some point. He is usually pretty innocuous. Maybe it is talking endlessly about the same thing that drives them over the edge.

[millennium]

15 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Maybe it is talking endlessly about the same thing that drives them over the edge.

Takes a toll on viewers, too.   No surprise to me that MSNBC's ratings have plummeted by 33% since the Gaza-Israel conflict began.

[Kemper]

Mika interviewed the author of Mitt Romney’s biography. He revealed Mitt’s description of different politicians over the years; they were remarkably candid. I can’t remember his exact description of Newt G but it made me snort laugh. Why? It was the exact way I would describe Joe. 😁

[chick binewski]

I have a feeling neither Joe nor Al will take note of David Brooks' advice about inserting one's personal experiences when being told someone else's story. 

I was super confused by the end of that segment. When Mika was asked to tell something about herself we don't know I swear she responded "Minnie Mouse. I eat four or five a day." Is she talking about vitamins/ice cream sandwiches or am I possibly deaf/mentally impaired?

[SeanBug]

On 10/20/2023 at 9:01 PM, millennium said:

Takes a toll on viewers, too.   No surprise to me that MSNBC's ratings have plummeted by 33% since the Gaza-Israel conflict began.

I've actually been watching a little more than I used to, but only if something breaking news-ish happens.  

I think the drop reflects the fact that most viewers are older, and do not like MSNBC being supportive of Palestinians and their struggle while also firmly stating Israel has every right to defend itself.  That fact seems to get missed, all anyone hears when American media or politicians preach caution is "You're against Israel". 

No, we just know what happens when a war is started without thinking thru to the end result. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2023 by SeanBug

[Kemper]

2 hours ago, chick binewski said:

I was super confused by the end of that segment. When Mika was asked to tell something about herself we don't know I swear she responded "Minnie Mouse. I eat four or five a day." Is she talking about vitamins/ice cream sandwiches or am I possibly deaf/mentally impaired?

Maybe she eats Minnies. I’ll show myself out.🥰

[SeanBug]

 

9 minutes ago, Kemper said:

Maybe she eats Minnies. I’ll show myself out.🥰

I swear she called Elise Jordan "Louise".

This is what happens when you aren't that great reading a teleprompter or speaking on camera to begin with, and then you Botox yourself into not being able to move your mouth and speak correctly. 

Like you said in your "KYV Challenge" Mika, "be better on camera". 

WTF is she eating four or five times a day?  I thought all she did was drink Starbucks, run, ride around in the lobster boat in her Greta Garbo Getup, and move Mom's Haunted Forest  around the Eastern seaboard.  Oh and the cakes that look like a bunch of teenagers got high AF and hungry and decided to bake a cake at 3 am.  

 

[plumbago blues]

My 5 second pass by the show and it was the battle of the foreheads: Joe and Ignatius in a side by side split screen. Joe is rapidly morphing into David.  

[Kemper]

Meeka: “Your father married me and Joe” to Elijah Cummings daughter. Well. Today, me and my friend are meeting for lunch. 

[SeanBug]

1 hour ago, Kemper said:

Meeka: “Your father married me and Joe” to Elijah Cummings daughter. Well. Today, me and my friend are meeting for lunch. 

I had it on during that segment but was in the kitchen and didn't hear everything Mika said. 

But congrats Mika, you made yet another segment about yourself.  And bonus, with bad grammar. 

I'm pretty sure his daughter knows he officiated at your wedding.  Did you get a chance to tell her he knew his value?  JFC woman just shut up already. 

[Lowcountry snark]

2 hours ago, Kemper said:

Meeka: “Your father married me and Joe” to Elijah Cummings daughter. Well. Today, me and my friend are meeting for lunch. 

I mute the show mostly.  But to discuss the good social works of Elijah Cummings, and then have a minute and a half montage of Joe and Mika with Elija Cummings in the background... I was taken aback.  They minimized him into a prop. 
Kinda gross, kids.  But you're like the GOP, you're so far gone from the reasons you're doing this.

[millennium]

At 6:36 today Mika stumbled over a word, then reported that the Maine shooting suspect had recently spent time in a "mental health cafility."

 

[Kemper]

Meeka is stumbling this morning. She just used inappropriate slang and mispronounced a guest’s name; but did quickly correct herself on that. Wish I could remember the slang but cannot. Then she holds up her phone so all can see what the alert looks like that is going out to college students in the mass shootings area.

Is Joe ill? Today is a huge news story day. The shootings, the new Speaker of the house, and news from The Mideast. And baseball.

 

[Kemper]

I just tuned back in and saw a pro basketball coach (Mike Brown?) give the most passionate, from the heart response to last night’s shootings. It was at an after-game press conference … he simply said it all. For me, this hit hard.

[tres bien]

We expect Joe not to there one or two days a week that Mika (or Willie) doesn't bother telling us anymore 🤣

[millennium]

10 hours ago, Kemper said:

Is Joe ill? Today is a huge news story day. The shootings, the new Speaker of the house, and news from The Mideast. And baseball.

Based on many months of MSNBC viewing, I have concluded that the hosts -- especially the Scarboroughs -- don't care what's happening in the world.   Maybe they figure, oh well, there will be another crisis next week.

[millennium]

Scarborough's over-the-top advocacy for Israel is too much, way too much.   Everyone on the panel is sitting there in silence while he's ranting, like they're afraid to speak.  He sounds like a zealot.