Morrigan2575 January 28, 2016 Author Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Looks like this is a fake annoucement, sorry. Edited January 28, 2016 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) The article was written in June though. Probably not true. Edited January 28, 2016 by lemotomato Link to comment
apinknightmare January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) NM Edited January 28, 2016 by apinknightmare Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 28, 2016 Author Share January 28, 2016 Yeah, I just actually checked the dates. going to delete Link to comment
bijoux January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Too bad. I was really looking forward to the anti-hero thing. The weird thing about the wedding hints is that it's five episodes away whatever shape it takes on. I guess it could be because he was just filming it. I don't know if we brought it up, but the actress playing Cupid posted on Twitter that not everything you see on the Internet is true after those reports from set came out. I can't remember her name right now or I'd bring it over. Meaning it could be anything. It was just a dress with the Felicity tag, not specifically a wedding dress, wasn't it? What if they're guests at someone else's wedding? Maybe going there for some semi-undercover work? Link to comment
dtissagirl January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Maybe Oliver and Felicity do start planning the wedding for sometime around March [Dig and Lyla got married around that time], except everything blows up in 415. Hey, maybe the wedding stuff in 416 is all real, but the wedding is off, and Oliver is in one of his catatonic states, imagining a big what if, except he's all alone in the hall. [i'm not gonna give up on the All By Myself visual, sorry.] And then Cupid finds him, or something. 6 Link to comment
Chaser January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 DR talked about a wedding, called Oliver Felicity's husband and liked a photo of the hotel ballroom on IG. Idk what any of this means. Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 The weird thing about the wedding hints is that it's five episodes away whatever shape it takes on. I guess it could be because he was just filming it. I don't know if we brought it up, but the actress playing Cupid posted on Twitter that not everything you see on the Internet is true after those reports from set came out. I can't remember her name right now or I'd bring it over. Meaning it could be anything. It was just a dress with the Felicity tag, not specifically a wedding dress, wasn't it? What if they're guests at someone else's wedding? Maybe going there for some semi-undercover work? Amy Gumenick, who was likely talking about the Canadagraphs guy saying she was a jerk, bc she committed the ultimate crime of not speaking with random dude trying to engage her. The Canadagraphs guy has been fairly accurate lately. I can buy a wedding, but not a real O/F wedding. Totally bizarre in-story timing, not enough actors there, not during sweeps (does anyone seriously think they're going to do a real Olicity wedding outside of sweeps?). Link to comment
looptab January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Maybe Stephen was trolling. Like, they overcome the BMD somehow and get married for real in the next episode, only to finally break up over something else later. o.O (kidding. sort of.) Edited January 28, 2016 by looptab Link to comment
Chaser January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Or not take advantage of the 100th Episode Crossover Event! Seriously if they don't take advantage of that I will be pissed. 5 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Maybe Stephen was trolling. Like, they overcome the BMD somehow and get married for real in the next episode, only to finally break up over something else later. o.O (kidding. sort of.) Then all that BMD setup would have been for five minutes of relationship tension? SA said 4.15 ends on a note that Olicity people will not like. Then they reconcile in the first five of 4.16 and have enough time to get a fancy wedding set up, and then what, are divorcing by the time of the FF? And again, get married outside of sweeps? It seems FAR more likely that DR is being loose with language and talking about scenes he just filmed. Link to comment
bijoux January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 DR talked about a wedding, called Oliver Felicity's husband and liked a photo of the hotel ballroom on IG. Idk what any of this means. If one wanted to be paranoid, it could be interpreted as if he had been told that it was Dig in the grave and he was giving away spoilers intentionally. I don't think it's true but I'm sort of surprised that there hasn't been speculation about this yet. At least as far as I know. Amy Gumenick, who was likely talking about the Canadagraphs guy saying she was a jerk, bc she committed the ultimate crime of not speaking with random dude trying to engage her.Ah. I missed that part. Thankfully. But thanks for filling in the gaps. Link to comment
calliope1975 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Or not take advantage of the 100th Episode Crossover Event! Seriously if they don't take advantage of that I will be pissed. Agreed. If I have to suffer through increasingly poorly planned crossovers, with more and more shows added, you better give me my goddammed 100th episode Olicity wedding. I accept it will be interrupted by a villain so everyone can put their leather and little masks on, but I want the wedding! 8 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 CG: https://twitter.com/canadagraphs/with_replies Then about three hours later she Tweeted not to believe everything you read. The idea that anyone, much less actors, are required to interact with anyone who wants to interact with them absolutely floors me. I lived in LA for awhile, walked right past Spielberg, and did not bother him. Much worse for me, saw Sarah Michelle Gellar and her husband at that Malibu fish place, there was hardly anyone else around, and I am a HUGE BtVS fan. But I still didn't bother her. Bc that's just ridiculous. 3 Link to comment
thegirlsleuth January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I'm not sure how it intersects with Nyssa's return, but is it possible that there is a real wedding but that Damien's wife is able to root out the marriage to Nyssa and show that Oliver is now a polygamist, invalidating his marriage to Felicity? Polygamy is completely in this show's wheelhouse, and if anyone could root out a marriage in an obscure location, it would be Damien and his wife. If their marriage is invalidated and then the next week the baby mama drama hits, then that could be the one-two punch in the O/F relationship. It would be a testament to Guggenheim's storytelling if the stupidest plot point from season three and the stupidest plot point from season four finished off one of the most loving, mature relationships on tv, at least temporarily. 2 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Bigamy, not polygamy. Polygamy is when the parties pretty much agree to it. I just can't see it. I don't see any scenario in which it goes from all the awfulness coming up, including a known bad Olicity scene at the end of 4.15, to a real wedding in 4.16. Nope. And we're not just theorizing the kid is taken in 4.15, we have actual pictures of the BM actress on set. BMD definitely hits in 4.15, and it makes no sense, not even Guggie sense, that it goes from that to a real wedding in the next episode. Occam's razor says it's not a real O/F wedding. Re the Nyssa thing, I can't see Felicity caring. She already knows about that, and her reaction has been to make jokes. Why would that harm their relationship now? Edited January 28, 2016 by AyChihuahua 1 Link to comment
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) But according to the spoilers, the BM drama comes back in 415 and the wedding was filmed for 416. And OMG, I can't believe we're speculating about another questionable wedding again. Why can't all reminders of season 3 just go away already? Edited January 28, 2016 by lemotomato 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Since DD is former LoA and might possibly have some HIVE loyalists infiltrated in there to keep tabs on things, I would find it easier to believe he'd find out about the marriage than the kid. Unless he tails Oliver going for a visit. But it's TV logic, so whatever, man! 1 Link to comment
GirlvsTV January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 What If the wedding is another flash forward? If they are concerned about losing people due to Oliver and Felicity being on the outs, maybe using a flash forward wedding would be how they reassure those people everything is good? It would also give those viewers an incentive to stick around and see how they eventually get back together. Link to comment
thegirlsleuth January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Felicity and Nyssa would make swell sister wives! I think Felicity would only care if for some reason DD was able to prove that her marriage to Oliver was invalid because Nanda Parbat is a protectorate of, for example, Florin, and that marriages performed in Nanda Parbat are recognized under international law. Therefore, if she and Oliver did have the white wedding, it would not be valid. I may have read Jane Eyre too many times. 4 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) But according to the spoilers, the BM drama comes back in 415 and the wedding was filmed for 416. And OMG, I can't believe we're speculating about another questionable wedding again. Why can't all reminders of season 3 just go away already? Which is why I am 99.99999999999999999% positive it is not a real O/F wedding. I am still expecting it to be a hallucination or dream. Not only does it make no sense, but also it's not sweeps. I thought Mericle said no more flash-forwards, but Bamford is saying he directed one in his episode? What If the wedding is another flash forward? If they are concerned about losing people due to Oliver and Felicity being on the outs, maybe using a flash forward wedding would be how they reassure those people everything is good? It would also give those viewers an incentive to stick around and see how they eventually get back together. According to CG, Cupid was there, and she was arrested at the wedding. She probably drugs him to make him marry her, he hallucinates Felicity, then TA comes to rescue him and arrest Cupid. Easy peasy. Although I really wanted her to think GA sucked and make fun of the new suit. Damnit. Felicity and Nyssa would make swell sister wives! I think Felicity would only care if for some reason DD was able to prove that her marriage to Oliver was invalid because Nanda Parbat is a protectorate of, for example, Florin, and that marriages performed in Nanda Parbat are recognized under international law. Therefore, if she and Oliver did have the white wedding, it would not be valid. That would be the most easily annulled marriage in the history of ever, though. Agreed re the sister wives. Edited January 28, 2016 by AyChihuahua Link to comment
apinknightmare January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I thought Mericle said no more flash-forwards, but Bamford is saying he directed one in his episode? No, he directed the scene in the limo. 1 Link to comment
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Bamford directed the flash forward in 410, apparently Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Thanks! That's weird. Why would he direct just that one scene? Link to comment
bijoux January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 According to CG, Cupid was there, and she was arrested at the wedding. She probably drugs him to make him marry her, he hallucinates Felicity, then TA comes to rescue him and arrest Cupid. Easy peasy. Although I really wanted her to think GA sucked and make fun of the new suit. Damnit..She could still do it if she tries to marry Oliver but doesn't know about his connection to the Arrow and GA. Maybe she talk about her past lovers -Arrow and Deadshot - and compares them to GA and whoever the latest SUICIDE squade member/victim is. I'm still pretty fond of the theory with Cupid using Oliver and Felicity as Ken and Barbie dolls to play wedding with. Just the right amount of crazy and it would mess with the two of them something fierce a few weeks after the break up.BTW, there's a three week break between 4x15 and 4x16 airing according to IMDb. 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 The actor who plays DD was spotted near the courtroom also. Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Stephen Amell to appear as future Oliver Queen on Legends of Tomorrow “Every once and a while, we do an episode where the 10-year-old me has to pinch himself,” executive producer Marc Guggenheim says. “We’re not only introducing our version of Connor Hawke to our universe, we’re going to meet the 2046 version of Oliver Queen, and Stephen Amell is going to be reprising his role from Arrow. As an added bonus to comic-book fans, Oliver is missing his left arm and will be sporting a goatee, in a nod to the character’s appearance in the seminal Dark Knight Returns. We think this episode features some of the coolest things we’ve ever done.” Call me crazy but the idea that Oliver Queen is going to lose his arm in 30 years is something I don't find cool. 14 Link to comment
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 The Flash Forward scene was filmed around the time when this pic was taken posted on 8th December 2015 https://twitter.com/ArrowProdOffice/status/674306017572818944 Link to comment
apinknightmare January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Yes, please, after all this dude has gone through, I'm glad to see he's going to lose a limb. Hopefully the non-Legends fix that timeline. Edited January 28, 2016 by apinknightmare 14 Link to comment
tarotx January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I think seeing a what if Oliver will be cool but he's not going to be our Oliver since the legends are going to make a difference ;) 1 Link to comment
Velocity23 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Wow Oliver just cant win with MG and AK around. 4 Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 She could still do it if she tries to marry Oliver but doesn't know about his connection to the Arrow and GA. Maybe she talk about her past lovers -Arrow and Deadshot - and compares them to GA and whoever the latest SUICIDE squade member/victim is. I'm still pretty fond of the theory with Cupid using Oliver and Felicity as Ken and Barbie dolls to play wedding with. Just the right amount of crazy and it would mess with the two of them something fierce a few weeks after the break up. If it's a Ken and Barbie thing, she sure manages to get a nice venue. That's partly why I figure hallucination, bc the hallucination would include the venue. I'd be fine with that, though. I just really want someone to make fun of the suit. She seemed really narcissistic, do you think she'd be interested in putting on a crazypants wedding for two other people, with her as just like the planner, v. her own wedding? Oh hey, just realized they totally did this on Gotham a few episodes ago! 1 Link to comment
dtissagirl January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Yuck, please don't bring Frank Miller to my mindless candy entertainment, I don't wanna throw up. Edited January 28, 2016 by dtissagirl 1 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 January 28, 2016 Author Share January 28, 2016 Meh, future stuff is irrelevant. Link to comment
catrox14 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Ugh. I really hate this BS with Oliver and the VAN DYKE (It's not a goatee, Guggenheim) and missing arm in the future. On one hand (no pun intended) maybe it will be enough to stop all BECAUSE COMICS clamoring as to why we don't have that nonsense in "Arrow". On the other hand, I worry we'll eventually have BC/GA romance BECAUSE COMICS which does nothing but undercut the Olicity in the present. And will ramp up the desire to see it in the future. Bleh. Edited January 28, 2016 by catrox14 Link to comment
calliope1975 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I'd rather Earth 2 or Earth 14 or Earth 47 have armless Oliver instead of our Oliver. I'm just going to assume by the future they'll have cool replacements. Coulson lost a hand, and he's fine. Or that this is yet another timeline that will be altered by Barry doing something stupid. 5 Link to comment
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 “Every once and a while, we do an episode where the 10-year-old me has to pinch himself,” executive producer Marc Guggenheim says. “We’re not only introducing our version of Connor Hawke to our universe, we’re going to meet the 2046 version of Oliver Queen, and Stephen Amell is going to be reprising his role from Arrow. As an added bonus to comic-book fans, Oliver is missing his left arm and will be sporting a goatee, in a nod to the character’s appearance in the seminal Dark Knight Returns. We think this episode features some of the coolest things we’ve ever done.” 10-year old MG is responsible for all the "because comics" storylines? That explains a lot. Please stay on LoT forever, MG. Please please Ugh. I really hate this BS with Oliver and the VAN DYKE (It's not a goatee, Guggenheim) and missing arm in the future. On one hand (no pun intended) maybe it will be enough to stop all BECAUSE COMICS clamoring as to why we don't have that nonsense in "Arrow". On the other hand, I worry we'll eventually have BC/GA romance BECAUSE COMICS which does nothing but undercut the Olicity in the present. And will ramp up the desire to see it in the future. Bleh. The only good thing about this is that it's happening on LoT, in a hypothetical future, so we can choose to not watch/acknowledge it 9 Link to comment
dtissagirl January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 10-year old MG is responsible for all the "because comics" storylines? That explains a lot. Also explains the terrible math, because he was 16 when armless Oliver Queen showed up in Dark Knight Returns. 6 Link to comment
dtissagirl January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 But hey, Felicity dumps Oliver in 415, next day on LoT he's #foreveralone witthout an arm. 2 Link to comment
catrox14 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 The only good thing about this is that it's happening on LoT, in a hypothetical future, so we can choose to not watch/acknowledge it Only if it's like Earth 489756403. I mean isn't there a chance that what happens in Legends is a possible true endgame for Oliver because Guggie is so in love with the comics it seems still? Link to comment
lemotomato January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) If it turns out that old Oliver is forever alone (or married to some rando) because he never reconciled with Felicity or that she died, I could put up with the stupid van dyke and even the missing arm. What I won't accept is any implication he ended up with BC at any point. NOPE. Edited January 28, 2016 by lemotomato 1 Link to comment
Sakura12 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 It was Earth-31 Oliver that lost his arm. Link to comment
wonderwall January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Caity Lotz tweeted about this episode... The emojis seem to make sense https://twitter.com/caitylotz/status/665151193216237568 Heartbreak which is Felicity probably breaking up w/ Oliver and him ending up alone w/ a van dyck and 1 arm and Oliver probably dies when he helps the LoT crew save the world (and they fail probably). They go back in time save the world and help Oliver try to fix things in the past (not that Oliver/Felicity will reconcile in the past but that maybe Oliver realizing what his future holds without her will make him work harder to win her back). Edited January 28, 2016 by wonderwall 1 Link to comment
jay741982 January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Maybe they're hoping that killing Laurel will be seen as an appeasment for having to kill off Waller and Katana? I really don't want them killing off three females this season. I know they resurrected Sara but they only did that cause of Backlash . Tommy is still the only male that was killed that stuck Link to comment
tarotx January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 I really don't want them killing off three females this season. I know they resurrected Sara but they only did that cause of Backlash . Tommy is still the only male that was killed that stuck Technically there were 4 male deaths last season with Akio, Shrieve, Maseo and Ra's. Plus a fake Ray death and of course and in show Roy fake death and him leaving. Link to comment
AyChihuahua January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 Caity Lotz tweeted about this episode... The emojis seem to make sense https://twitter.com/caitylotz/status/665151193216237568 Heartbreak which is Felicity probably breaking up w/ Oliver and him ending up alone w/ a van dyck and 1 arm and Oliver probably dies when he helps the LoT crew save the world (and they fail probably). They go back in time save the world and help Oliver try to fix things in the past (not that Oliver/Felicity will reconcile in the past but that maybe Oliver realizing what his future holds without her will make him work harder to win her back). Didn't they say they wouldn't be crossing LoT over with Flash/Arrow that much? I bet it's more of an Easter egg. 2 Link to comment
tarotx January 28, 2016 Share January 28, 2016 (edited) Didn't they say they wouldn't be crossing LoT over with Flash/Arrow that much? I bet it's more of an Easter egg. Probably since remember showrunner PK described the episode as a ghost of Christmas past type http://www.ksitetv.com/interviews-2/dcs-legends-of-tomorrow-talking-spoilers-with-ep-phil-klemmer/92651/ Edited January 28, 2016 by tarotx 2 Link to comment
jay741982 January 29, 2016 Share January 29, 2016 Technically there were 4 male deaths last season with Akio, Shrieve, Maseo and Ra's. Plus a fake Ray death and of course and in show Roy fake death and him leaving. Oh duh I had an attack of the dumb lol Link to comment
BkWurm1 January 29, 2016 Share January 29, 2016 Thinking about the halluci-wedding, it could either be a big troll move, and a further chance for SA to show off his kicked puppy face. OR, it could be great. Say in the previous episode, Felicity dumps him. That dream is, seemingly, over. He may also lose the kid to witness protection, and the mayoral election. The latter two aren't necessary, though...so he's dumped, and sad, but he's let her walk away and given up that dream, bc when it comes to emotional stuff for himself, that's what he always does. Then he's drugged and hallucinates or dreams his perfect wedding to Felicity. I would love for the show, instead of using that to give us MORE sad Oliver, to make it the kick in the ass he needs to decide to WORK for Felicity. It has so many advantages...finally he'd be, effectively, giving himself a pep talk. Finally he'd be deciding to work and change for Felicity. Finally he'd be doing something to achieve his dreams instead of just sadly and resignedly giving them up. Plus, that would make the halluci-wedding mean something, actually something fairly big and good in Oliver's own psyche. Given that this is basically what they did with Felicity - her hallucination prompted her to get her head to a better more proactive place, yeah, I could see this really happening. Crosses fingers. Link to comment
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