Morrigan2575 November 30, 2015 Author Share November 30, 2015 *hearteyes over hand holding* Anyone know where this picture came from? Link to comment
Guest November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Anyone know where this picture came from? It's a split-second moment from the episode preview that's on Facebook. Link to comment
WaitandHope November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Last year at this time, I was super-excited for the crossover. I was lobbying for/telling people they needed to watch these shows because I knew the crossover would be great. And truthfully, it was really and truly great event TV. This year....eh. I think they are focusing on the two characters that will be the least liked and the most fantastical in the spinoff. It already takes a high level of suspension of disbelief to enjoy these shows, but even for this universe, Hawkgirl/Hawkman Is pushing it. I'm an easygoing viewer - I can accept almost anything and rarely catch even the most outrageous mess-ups in the script until you guys tell me about them - BUT I find myself less than enthused about the Hawks. Their story seems like it will completely pull me out of enjoying the rest of the plot. I'm planning to watch LOT, but they are literally 7 and 8 on the list of reasons why. I can't quite figure out why because Vandal Savage, OTH, has me very enthusiastic, I'm starting to think the reason they cancelled the fan screening is they were worried audience reaction would not be positive. It's too ad because there are certainly fun and exciting stories to tell when the whole gang gets together, I just don't think this is one of them. 3 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 November 30, 2015 Author Share November 30, 2015 It's a split-second moment from the episode preview that's on Facebook.Thanks Link to comment
bijoux November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 I think VS just stabbed OQ in the arm with one of his arrows But the arrow doesn't look like it is in his arm, just in the general vicinity of it. That's what I'm having a problem with. DEATH TO THE GRANDPA SHIRTS! I'm starting to fanwank that Oliver is chosing these shirts to send Felicity subliminal messages. Look at my dad shirt. Doesn't it spell reliability, someone who you'd spend the rest of your life with and hand eleventy brilliant gorgeus kids with? I really hope that's not the case, that the wardrobe department once again put a character in something that doesn't look good because the actress "likes" it. She's a gorgeous woman but that's not a good look. Again? 3 Link to comment
apinknightmare November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 But the arrow doesn't look like it is in his arm, just in the general vicinity of it. That's what I'm having a problem with. It looks like he jabs Oliver right above the wrist to me. Link to comment
AyChihuahua November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 (edited) "But the arrow doesn't look like it is in his arm, just in the general vicinity of it. That's what I'm having a problem with." That is exactly what happened when Oliver was supposedly stabbing RAG in the side in his big move, and the sword was 100% visible outside of RAG's body. It was PATHETIC. (SUCH a terrible fight scene.) So I wouldn't be surprised if he misses but it's played like he hits. ... "Again?" I'm guessing the BC outfit, which KC has said she had a lot of input into. It looks like he jabs Oliver right above the wrist to me. Hopefully tearing the hell out of the shirt. Edited November 30, 2015 by AyChihuahua 2 Link to comment
bijoux November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Twitter users who have seen the crossover describe Oliver and Felicity as being honest and emotional. And something surprising happening that wasn't even spoiled by the NZ promo (the kid). Link to comment
Soulfire November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 (edited) Heartbreaking is making me think Baby Mama will refuse to let Oliver have anything to do with the kid. And I could actually see Oliver having to come to terms with that. And changed would then be, now they (Oliver and Felicity) both know what they want (ie, a future together, kids someday) leaving them both more sure of what they want, together, and for things to be as sure as will ever Arrow be, allowing Oliver to be at a place where he feels he can propose to Felicity (strongly suggested happening the episode after, in 409). Edited November 30, 2015 by Soulfire 4 Link to comment
bijoux November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Ten Thoughts About This Year’s Flash & Arrow Crossover http://www.ksitetv.com/green-arrow/ten-thoughts-about-this-years-flash-arrow-crossover/89103/ One, does Cisco have a death wish wanting to be in charge of the computers? Two, no one told Thea about everyone knowing The Flash? OMG, you don't see me as your equal! Kidding, not kidding.I do really like how the article describes Oliver as being the captain and Barry the glue of the joined teams. It gives them both different, but equally valuable roles to play. 3 Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Again? KC and her bajillion buckles. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Praying that you speak the truth, Sydney Bucksbaum. 9 Link to comment
kismet November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Here is my crack theory because I am getting cranky about hearing about this stupid crossover and secret children. It is revealed that FS has a secret kid who is dating OQ's secret kid. And the said secret-kid couple is kidnapped by VS and brought through time. DD then meets said secret-kid couple and has built a time machine in the Bay to rescue them because he has a weakness for illegitimate secret children and wants to rescue them from VS. And then in the end we find out that MM is really the secret father of one of the children. **End of Flash episode** The Arrow episode reveals that MM is the father of BabyMama's child. OQ remains childless. However, O&F bond over the emotional journey of having illegitimate children possibly stuck in time. VS gets stuck back in time with said secret children couple. DD time-traveling boat fails to work because QL steals something from the engine so it no longer works. RP volunteers to go back & rescue secret children. And the show ends with DD cursing the likes of Lances & failed time-travel. Lastly during both episodes, LL has her arms crossed and is making an indescribable scowl/smirk. 8 Link to comment
wonderwall November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Praying that you speak the truth, Sydney Bucksbaum. I already lost a lot of trust in journos for their inaccurate info in the past... I hope Sydney is telling the truth lol 1 Link to comment
Guest November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 I never know who to believe because everyone has such varying reactions and they often exaggerate. But I hope she's telling the truth too. As long as Oliver tells Felicity the truth about the kid, I can probably handle whatever else happens. Link to comment
AyChihuahua November 30, 2015 Share November 30, 2015 Here is my crack theory because I am getting cranky about hearing about this stupid crossover and secret children. It is revealed that FS has a secret kid who is dating OQ's secret kid. And the said secret-kid couple is kidnapped by VS and brought through time. DD then meets said secret-kid couple and has built a time machine in the Bay to rescue them because he has a weakness for illegitimate secret children and wants to rescue them from VS. And then in the end we find out that MM is really the secret father of one of the children. **End of Flash episode** The Arrow episode reveals that MM is the father of BabyMama's child. OQ remains childless. However, O&F bond over the emotional journey of having illegitimate children possibly stuck in time. VS gets stuck back in time with said secret children couple. DD time-traveling boat fails to work because QL steals something from the engine so it no longer works. RP volunteers to go back & rescue secret children. And the show ends with DD cursing the likes of Lances & failed time-travel. Lastly during both episodes, LL has her arms crossed and is making an indescribable scowl/smirk. Hee, have you been dipping into the meds? 2 Link to comment
kismet December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Hee, have you been dipping into the meds? Nope, I've just decided to drink the soap-opera Kool-Aid and push this show into an epic game-changing seismic level crazy, with just enough realism to it. I forgot to add that we will see Barry run really FAST and Cisco daydream wobbly visions of the future or past.... After all it is a crossover, can't forget the xover cast. :) Oh my goodness... maybe the Hawk Couple are really the secret children of FS & OQ/MM only reborn with wings! Boom! All cast & plot from 3 shows accounted for.... and mic drop... 5 Link to comment
Chaser December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I'm curious how they are going to write Laurel out of the Flash portion. Are they suddenly going to remember she is an ADA? Lance and Laurel bonding trip? She followed Sara to CC to visit her mother? The Team forgot to tell her anything? Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I figure maybe she'll be in Central City, and that's why she's in the Arrow portion. Doesn't make sense that Sara would be missing from the ep if that's the case, but I guess they could have her being skittish going back into the field? IDK. Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 1, 2015 Author Share December 1, 2015 (edited) Great, so 408 ends on a cliffy! I don't like that, especially since 409 is going to end on a cliffy too (probably) Twitter convo in spoiler thread Edited December 1, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Since the summary of 4x09 mentions an attack on the city, I think maybe 4x08 might end on the start of that? Given 4x09 is titled Dark Waters, maybe we'll find out what Darhk is doing with the Bay at the end of 4x08? Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 The whole last minute twist/cliffhanger in 4.08 is making me nervous that Felicity is actually pregnant (and then miscarries in 4.09). That would just be shitty as hell. 3 Link to comment
kismet December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I'm telling you DD has a secret time-machine submarine or boat hidden in the bay.... Or maybe its a secret portal to take you wherever you want and that explains why it takes minutes to travel from SC to NP. Bonus points for me if there is a similar portal on the shores of Lian Yu. :) 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 December 1, 2015 Author Share December 1, 2015 I'm gonna laugh (then cry) if Twitter actually got that whole pregnancy/miscarriage thing right. 5 Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I'm gonna laugh (then cry) if Twitter actually got that whole pregnancy/miscarriage thing right. I cannot overstate how much I'd hate it. Link to comment
lemotomato December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Y'all are freaking me out, and I'm already filled with dread on how they're going to handle the upcoming angst. I'm having flashbacks of the season 3 misery Link to comment
jay741982 December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 NO ONE wants the S3 angst and dread it happening 1 Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Y'all are freaking me out, and I'm already filled with dread on how they're going to handle the upcoming angst. I'm having flashbacks of the season 3 misery I'm not going through that shit again. They have her nearly die, miscarry, end up paralyzed, and I'm out. S3 was ALL THE MISERY they get from me. They used it all up. I'll read good fanfic, but otherwise I'll be out. Link to comment
looptab December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I don't fear the angst, but how much bored I will be by the Hawks. Though I' m curious to see Thea react ro Barry. And I wonder if Laurel will have any significant scene at all. 5 Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I don't fear the angst, I'm sick of it. SICK TO DEATH OF IT. I had 22.5 episodes of misery and angst in S3, and that's it. That's all they're allowed. 2 Link to comment
calliope1975 December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I don't know if I really see this show going that dark with Felicity after the angst fest of last year. Boyfriend's surprise kid, accident, miscarriage, paralysis? Maybe a combo version but not all of that. However, I don't doubt in the tone deafness of TPTB and their inability to write a moving, emotional story so we'll see what happens! I also have zero interest in the Hawks. I hope this crossover can generate my desire to see more of them and isn't a waste of two hours. Initial reports seem favorable, but I don't know. 5 Link to comment
Chaser December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I don't fear the angst, but how much bored I will be by the Hawks. Though I' m curious to see Thea react ro Barry. And I wonder if Laurel will have any significant scene at all. Other than reaction/action shots, I'm not anticipating significant scenes with Diggle/Thea or Laurel. From what we are hearing: Oliver and Barry are the Green Arrow and Flash. Cisco has his connection to HawkGirl and his obvious tech contributions. Felicity has her connection to Oliver (and thus William and the Mother), her friendship with Barry (and Team Flash) and her obvious tech skills. Caitlyn has her subplot with Jay. 1 Link to comment
bijoux December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 About the cliffhanger at the end of the crossover, it could be that we find out what DD cares most about. After all, Oliver taking it is why he retaliates in 4x09. This would be a good moment to introduce it. I'm convinced it's that box so either it's revealed what it is or Oliver somehow gets a hold of it. 2 Link to comment
Genki December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I'm not sure if it is the box, but I like the idea of TA finding out about what DD cares about the most. Link to comment
kismet December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 (edited) You guys are channeling your inner Tatsus with the one DD "cares about the most".... :) I don't mind the cliffhanger endings & shocking reveals at the end. I am not looking forward to them being tragic or sad for OQ & FS 2 weeks in a row. Which is why I think 408 will be DD related and 409 will be something bad happening to FS. Edited - because I put 2 instead of 4... Ooops. Edited December 1, 2015 by kismet Link to comment
jay741982 December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 You guys are channeling your inner Tatsus with the one DD "cares about the most".... :) I don't mind the cliffhanger endings & shocking reveals at the end. I am not looking forward to them being tragic or sad for OQ & FS 2 weeks in a row. Which is why I think 208 will be DD related and 209 will be something bad happening to FS. Do you mean 408 and 409 LOL 1 Link to comment
bijoux December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 You guys are channeling your inner Tatsus with the one DD "cares about the most".... :) Nah, Neal McDonough mentioned Oliver would get or target the thing that mattered most to DD a while back and that's why he would retaliate. Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Re the new clip in the Spoilers thread: I about died when Hawkman swooped down and picked Barry up like a freaking field mouse. And cheesy dialogue like, "We need to expose his wings!!!" Ah, I can't wait. Seriously. 6 Link to comment
bijoux December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 It's Barry creating twisters with his hands that's making me giggle. This is actually shaping up to be really entertaining camp. 1 Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Laura Hurley says the crossover is better than she expected, but there's one big thing she'd definitely change if she could. I'm telling you, Felicity is pregnant. And obviously it's too early for that, plus we know she's hurt next episode, so if she is pregnant she loses it. That's these assholes version of a "lighter" season. Barry fights superpowered gorillas; Oliver loses a wanted pregnancy. Assholes. 3 Link to comment
Guest December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Hmm. It might not be anything to do with Felicity/Olicity. She could just want to change the baby mama crap. I know I would. I mean, I wouldn't put it past this show to do a pregnancy storyline this early but I'm gonna live in my delusion that it's not happening because no thanks! Link to comment
bijoux December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Hmm. It might not be anything to do with Felicity/Olicity. She could just want to change the baby mama crap. I know I would. Somebody posted that comment and she said it was much more specific. Link to comment
AyChihuahua December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 (edited) Hmm. It might not be anything to do with Felicity/Olicity. She could just want to change the baby mama crap. I know I would. I mean, I wouldn't put it past this show to do a pregnancy storyline this early but I'm gonna live in my delusion that it's not happening because no thanks! Jinx with bijoux. I totally agree a pregnancy storyline is too early, but that's the problem. If she is pregnant, they're going to have her lose it. And not even a regular miscarriage, which is sad enough, but one brought on by violence. That's more misery, after a whole season of misery. Plus probable paralysis (surely temporary, but still). And yeah, I'm sure O/F will come out of all of it stronger, and that's great and all, but I still don't want misery piled on misery, and I particularly don't want misery for Felicity. Edited December 1, 2015 by AyChihuahua 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if she's pregnant. I will be very happy if she isn't. 4 Link to comment
Guest December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Ugh, I don't want this. Let me live in my delusional world a while longer. Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Someone asked a reviewer for 4 words to describe Oliver and Felicity in the crossover, and she picked "heartbreaking" as one. So, if there is a baby, I imagine maybe it'll be handled this week instead of next. Or maybe there's just a scare and they decide they want it, then find out it's nothing after all. Or maybe the heartbreak has to do with baby mama not wanting Oliver involved in the kid's life. IDK. 1 Link to comment
BkWurm1 December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Unless the "heartbreaking" is Oliver's reaction to finding out about the surprise kid. The guilt and betrayal and maybe the fear of what Felicity's reaction might be. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare December 1, 2015 Share December 1, 2015 Maybe. But she specifically used it to reference Olicity. So I don't think so. Link to comment
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