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So Oliver and Thea create Anarky? Interesting, I wonder if it's related to the LP side effects?

Also, I think they just gave away the haunting moment at the end of 401.

Other than that, I loved how much the sneak peek focused on Felicity and Diggle. Obviously Oliver got the bulk (to be expected) but it was really comforting to see Felicity and Diggle's stories getting prominence as well. It took 10 seconds for me to like Curtis.

Still don't like the helmet

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I haven't actually watched the sneak peak, can you explain this?

Wm said we'd see the evolution of Anarky as a villain and that Oliver and Thea were responsible.

For the haunting scene. It's the one where Darhk confronts Lance and city council members. Before he walks out Darhk says if you have any friends family who love you, you might want to say your goodbyes. Lance is visibly shaken

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Wm said we'd see the evolution of Anarky as a villain and that Oliver and Thea were responsible.

For the haunting scene. It's the one where Darhk confronts Lance and city council members. Before he walks out Darhk says if you have any friends family who love you, you might want to say your goodbyes. Lance is visibly shaken

 

Thank you!

 

Interesting. Well, at least it's not all Oliver's fault like usual. Haha.

 

As for Lance having to say his goodbyes, maybe this is not death, maybe he's just not Lance anymore. Weren't some people speculating mind control or something along those lines?

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Thank you!

Interesting. Well, at least it's not all Oliver's fault like usual. Haha.

As for Lance having to say his goodbyes, maybe this is not death, maybe he's just not Lance anymore. Weren't some people speculating mind control or something along those lines?

I don't think so. It's really clear the DD is a scary dude. The threat is what freaked Lance out. Which I'm happy about. I hated the whole idea that DD would thrall people. Much prefer a villain be scary in his own right. Edited by Morrigan2575
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Oliver embracing happiness, focus on Diggle and Felicity this season (the same season that's about family). Those two things make me so happy.

I like the idea of Anarchy. Jessica's Daughter in that clip? Explains why the episode description for 4x02 focused on Green Arrow and Speedy and not Team Arrow protecting Jessica if they help create Anarchy. His opposition to both the Good Guys and DD is intriguing. Liked the sneak peek of Curtis. Dynamic between Felicity and him looks great. Laughed at Oliver's "Blow it up."

Surprised there was no mention of Constantine, Sara's resurrection or Thea's LP storyline. I'm wondering if it's because it's all tied very specifically to the launch of LOT and they wanted the sneak peek to cover Arrow's main S4 storyline lines.

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I don't know about that. They jumped right to 408 being the launch pad for LoT and how they were introducing Hawkman. I don't think they skipped Sara and Constantine because of LoT, I think they focused ob 401/402 for the sneak peek which makes sense. Then jumped to the crossover and HAWKMAN! Because DC Comics!

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Majority of the clips are from Season 3 and Wendy talking, saying everything we already know so you arent missing out.

Other than all the Anarchy scenes, DD in the conference room being villain, Olicity in the kitchen scene talking omelettes, happy jogging Oliver, Curtis and Felicity in Palmer Tech, Diggle with his daughter and Oliver in the field.....pretty sure those are all new scenes.

Did you watch the right clip?

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Other than all the Anarchy scenes, DD in the conference room being villain, Olicity in the kitchen scene talking omelettes, happy jogging Oliver, Curtis and Felicity in Palmer Tech, Diggle with his daughter and Oliver in the field.....pretty sure those are all new scenes.

Did you watch the right clip?

Yes I did. It's a 5 minute video, majority of the clips were made up of S3/Wendy like I said. DD in the conference room was in the general trailer, Curticity in the general trailer, only minor change in Olivers jogging was him waving. They probably don't make up majority of the video if we want to get technical about time.

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tarotx and Soulfire -- many thanks.  Both of those links worked, and now I'm so excited.

 

We didn't get much specific on Diggle other than his new suit and helmet but WM did say there would be a lot of story for Diggle this season, including the focus on family.  For Thea, we got that she and Oliver would be the ones to set Lonnie on the path to being Anarky (I'll never get the stupid spelling right). She also said that she was looking forward to having Thea, Laurel and Felicity working together in the Arrow cave.

 

The promo was pretty much focused on Oliver, Felicity and the new characters coming on (DD, Anarky, Mr. Terrific, Hawkman etc.).  Pretty much like last year but with Felicity actually getting a storyline of her own this time.

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I'm definitely pumped for the new season, as long as they follow through with what they're promising/selling and we all know promos have the habit of misleading so we'll see. But for me personally I thought one of the biggest problems with s3 was too much focus/importance on the masks and not enough on the people behind them so as long as the new season strikes a better balance, I can't ask for much more.

Better get my Year of Diggle though. Seriously, don't play, Wendy. ;p

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I keep watching the happiness and now I need a gif of Leslie Knope from Parks & Rec saying "I know this is a trap but I don't know how." LOL.

I'm so happy to see those clips, but at the same time, feel very wary. None of the previews last year gave any hint of how miserable the rest of the season would be, and they just went out on a date back then. I think season 3 broke me.

 

I also find it suspicious that reviewers haven't gotten the Arrow season premier screener yet, even though the ones for Flash and other CW shows arrived last week. Makes me think there's something huge that happens they want to hide until the last minute, maybe? 

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 She also said that she was looking forward to having Thea, Laurel and Felicity working together in the Arrow cave.

I'm looking forward to it too. Hopefully it work as well as Felicity, Lyla and Caitlin working together.

Okay, I have to be honest. The omelette line was too meta and would have been better off left to memes, photocaps and cons. But I do love Felicity perking up on seeing Oliver come home. Look at this thing I've done! Not to mention Oliver Howdy Neighbor Queen. It. Is. Awesome. I lauged and laughed and want a gif rigt now. I will never for the life of me understand how Ollie scored with so many girls, the boy has no game whatsoever. I love it and him. Can we please get him talking about what coal to buy for the neighborhood barbecue with Joe next door before he and Felicity go back? It gets heated. :)

Is Diggle's scene with Sara new? I'd have to look at the outfits but I think it may be from last season when Lyla quit Argus.

I'm liking the little tidbits we see of Darkh and Anarky. The only thing I don't like about the preview? 'We are all one big show.' No. Stop that.

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Oh I'm not saying there weren't S3 clips, I'm just saying there was a decent amount of S4 material. Especially that of the new characters Curtis and Anarchy. Regardless of them already appearing in the general trailer, it's still S4.

There was dialogue as well, which none of the other clips really had. There were a few repeated lines like QL saying means Anarky. Overall it was extended scenes, there was not an abudance of new info revealed - but it was enjoyable. I even like the s3 scenes providing some nice reminders of some scenes. It did confuse me at first though.

 

I didn't really watch the previews last year - so I have no idea how they compare to last year. But I feel like it can't be a depressing as last year based on what WM has been saying. I'm not expecting rainbows & unicorns all season (I actually don't want that). I'm gonna go through darkness withdrawal if ARROW gets too happy, I like my show with a little broody. But I also don't want to be on close watch all season restricted from using sharp items or shoelaces. So hopefully they strike a good balance this season.

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I'm definitely pumped for the new season, as long as they follow through with what they're promising/selling and we all know promos have the habit of misleading so we'll see. But for me personally I thought one of the biggest problems with s3 was too much focus/importance on the masks and not enough on the people behind them so as long as the new season strikes a better balance, I can't ask for much more.

Better get my Year of Diggle though. Seriously, don't play, Wendy. ;p

Year of Diggle AND Felicity! Give it to me WM!

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Thea looks Cray Cray in that new post vixen trailer (posted in the spoiler only thread).

 

Looks like Green Arrow is making a video for the Citizens of Star City, promising to fight DD(?) for the Soul of the City.  I love how they keep trying to sell this season as an ensemble and that Oliver is part of the Team not the Team Leader and then you have Green Arrow (not Team Green Arrow) making a video message to Star City.

 

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Yeah, we had seen that before.  I just couldn't figure out what was going on at the time.  Why was Arrow on a video?  Was it part of the Vigilante Task Force, like GA was turning himself in or something?  Now I wonder if the Vigilant Task Force is a reaction to Damian Darhk's manipulations?

 

The screen shot is really hard to figure out as well.  

Felicity looks concerned and protective (arms wrapped around her middle)

Laurel looks angry but that's KC's go to look so who knows what that means

Thea looks sad/worried

Diggle is stoic, maybe a bit proud of Oliver?  

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I think DD must be looking for the Green Arrow and messing with the city both with magic and physical violence. So The Green Arrow goes live (Maybe using the Facebook live chat that Stephan loves so much ;) ) and declares that he's there for the city. And Oliver will run for major to be there for the city publicly. 

 

I think DD is going to cast some negative energy onto Starling because the season is about how can Oliver keep his good positive mood. It just fits that DD is going to be able to be a giant mood empath. I think the city will be Gotham like and down and depressed (a meta for the Arrow fanbase season 3.). And it will be up to team Arrow not to let all the negativity win out. They will have to be a family and support each other though the hell DD and others are creating. 

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Even LL's arms looked crossed in a pissed off way, not just a concerned/worried protective stance. But pissed off that's her default programming setting so there really is no way to judge just from that shot what's going on with her.

 

But seriously, how are the citizens of SC not going to recognize him as either the Arrow or OQ? Shoulder pads may elevate his look, but he still looks a lot like the Arrow. I mean the frozen shot looks so much like OQ, the mask is not that good at hiding his identity in a freeze frame. Esp with his face plastered everywhere later on in the  mayoral campaign. How is everyone in SC, this blind on a consistent basis?

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Facebook Live LOL. Team Arrow needs there own page.

I'm not sure I buy that the Team won't have a leader. To me it sounds like they are trying to appease those who don't want Laurel and Thea to be second string to the Originals. I could also read it as a way to reassure others who don't want comic masks to get the lead just Because Comics.

They all look apprehensive to me in the image. Maybe they don't approve of the big bold move?

I thought it was interesting that WM seemed to imply that the new team hasn't been successful in Oliver's absence. He has been gone 5 months and he is the one to publicly make an address, not Diggle Speedy or Laurel.

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I think DD must be looking for the Green Arrow and messing with the city both with magic and physical violence. So The Green Arrow goes live (Maybe using the Facebook live chat that Stephan loves so much ;) ) and declares that he's there for the city. And Oliver will run for major to be there for the city publicly. 

:D [happy Oliver voice]Hello, Star City. No need to fret. Team Name To Be Determined has your back.[/dorky wave] [cue Arrow voice]Damien Darhk, you on the other hand, do fret. Be afraid.[/aims arrow at the camera]

 

I am of two minds about the mayoral campaign from the start. Logically, it makes no sense for him to be putting his image out there so much and raising awareness of his presence and, more importantly, lack of presence at crucial times highly visible. Emotionally, it gives me all the feels. Because that's Oliver being brave as hell, publically admitting to care about his city deeply and backing it up, instead of using his real identity as another mask as he did early on by posing as Ollie Queen, the playboy, even when he was no longer one. He's being himself out in the open and I just... Sniffle. Never mind, move it along.

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Every team needs a Captain/leader - but that doesn't necessarily make it his/her team. I will accept that OQ/GA is the Captain/Leader of the team, but the team is not "only just" his team anymore. In s1, O/F/D felt like a cohesive spec-ops unit, an inherent team (no leaders really needed). In s2, OQ began to feel like the Coach when the team expanded beyond the OTA. Its was his team & his mission so every play/move went through him, with the input from his assistant coaches (OTA). By s3, that model/hierarchy felt a little broken, esp when he returned from the dead in s3. Basically since s2, they have been fighting a mission for the city, no longer just the "list" - in many ways it had already become their team's mission and not OQ's mission anymore. However, the culture in the foundry had not changed to reflect that - which caused tension in s3b. So I am okay if it is a team atmosphere this season, as it is no longer just OQ's mission to protect the city - but only if OQ is the team leader/captain.

 

That being said, I am primarily here for OQ's journey. Followed closely by FS & Digs with a side of QL & a well-written MM (not s3 MM). And of course, DD just looks amazingly evil this season, so I am here for him too. If it strays too far from that into other characters or plots that I do not find interesting, then I will probably just lose interest and stop watching the show as faithfully - which is what happened s2 when it went full throttle Lance drama & I nearly forgot to watch the whole last month.

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