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S03.E03: I'll See You in Hell or New Orleans


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With tension running as high as ever, Klaus and Elijah are forced to come together in order to uncover Lucien’s true motives in New Orleans. Cami is caught off guard when she finds herself face to face with Lucien and is surprised when he reveals some unexpected information about his past with Klaus. Elsewhere, a mysterious figure presents an enticing offer to Marcel, while Hayley turns to an unconventional way of coping with her current situation. Finally, an old acquaintance from Elijah’s past arrives in New Orleans and delivers some startling news involving the growing threat to the Mikaelson siblings.
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I have to say I started laughing when the shot of Lucien on the pyre appeared -- I totally thought he was about to get a viking funeral, and that we were going to see him suddenly wake up on fire in the middle of the water. Just the thought of the looks on Klaus and Elijah's faces when the dead guy popped up all aflailin' on the water and on fire would have been worth it.

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Yay to seeing Josh again! I mean, I'm still sad for him over losing Aiden but I always love having him around. His comment about vampire blood being harder to clean was so Josh. Maybe he just needs Al Swearengen to show him the proper way to clean blood off the floor.

 

Ugh to the Hayley/Jackson fighting/blood licking/sex scene. No, thanks!

 

Ha, loved Elijah telling Tristan that he isn't the fun loving social butterfly he used to be. But it's obvious what a mistake he made in suspecting Marcel. He provided the motivation for Marcel to change sides.

 

The look on Klaus's face when Lucien casually mentioned he would heal a werewolf bite himself was hilarious. Poor Klaus thought he was such a special snowflake for being able to cure werewolf bites!

 

Looks like Princess Crazy Pants is joining the party in New Orleans next week. I guess that's what the monks get for not upping her meds like Tristan told them to do!

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Despite being saddled with scenes with Cami I was soooo happy to see Vincent again. I'm still hoping that he chooses to help Davina in her role as regent and step away from the void that is Cami. I'm wondering who will end up telling Detective Dohring to get on the vervain.

 

The only thing I have to offer wrt those fight club-leading to "hot" sexy scenes with Jackson and Hayley was that I wanted to Purell my eyes.

 

Aw, a Josh sighting. I miss him and Aiden so much.

Nothing against the actor portraying Lucien but I think I would like him better if Chris Wood, I think that's his name?, who portrayed Kai over on TVD, portrayed Lucien here. Of course this is only the beginning of the season so hopefully we'll continue to see more of Lucien, what makes him tick, etc. Loved when he told Klaus that he cured himself of the werewolf bite, Klaus' expression was priceless! Still no opinion on Tristan yet, wondering what exactly has made his sister go off the rails.

 

And finally, ending on a high note: the lovely Aya. LOVE her, loved her with Marcel. When Elijah said he sired her I thought of COURSE he did, she's everything he is: strong, deadly, beautiful. Not sure where this Strix thing is going but more Aya, please!

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I have to say I started laughing when the shot of Lucien on the pyre appeared -- I totally thought he was about to get a viking funeral, and that we were going to see him suddenly wake up on fire in the middle of the water. Just the thought of the looks on Klaus and Elijah's faces when the dead guy popped up all aflailin' on the water and on fire would have been worth it.

 

I totally thought that was going to happen too, especially with Klaus saying that Lucien wasn't wrong in comparing himself to a Phoenix rising from the ashes. I would have paid good money to see that happen instead. 

 

Aya seems like an interesting character, but she also might be one that will get tiresome quickly, at least for me. It depends on what they do with her. But let me guess; Elijah sired all of the members of the Elite Vampire Club. I'm just getting a feeling like he might have.

 

Oh, Josh! Hi! I missed him, and I miss him and Aiden, but I'm glad that he's back. 

 

So...it seems like the flashback last episode could have taken place a couple of weeks before the premiere? Well, either that or it's not Tristan doing the killings either, Though can it actually be Tristan, anyway? Wasn't Tristan meeting with Elijah when the new body showed up? Do I really care who the killer is? 

 

I liked Cami's hair this episode. I was entertained by her and Lucien, to an extent.

 

Elijah threatening reconciliation and Klaus being manipulated by it? Priceless. Their scene at the end was well done, though.

 

No words on the Jackson/Hayley fight/sex scene. 

 

I like Aurora, the Crazy Vampire. She seems like she'll be a lot of fun for a while. 

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I'm surprised that all these vampires sired during the beginning are all still alive considering none of them, including the originals, had any sense of all the "vampire rules" so to speak, and they also clearly had no sense of discretion.

I, too, also thought that Lucien would have literally rose from the ashes of a funeral pyre. That definitely would have been cool. It would have also been interesting if the men being murdered were actually being murdered by Lucien because they were living descendants of the aristocratic families that wronged him.

Cami: "I'd bet my degree on it."

Me: "Bitch, you don't have a degree!"

Because it can't be said enough, Shut up Cami!! Why is she still on this show again?

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As a whole, this season is shaping up to be more balanced, with several plots developing at once.  Marcel finally has his own storyline, and laughable as it may be, Cami is contributing more than serving as Klaus' sounding board.  Vincent and Freya are still on the outskirts but there's potential for them to do their own thing.  It's refreshing for the writers to let other characters shine and exist outside their relationships with Klaus.  

 

And speaking of Klaus, I'm actually feeling sorry for him.  Ach!  He did a terrible thing by turning Hayley's pack into wolves, but Elijah is refusing to forgive him because Klaus punished his married girlfriend?  The hell?  The issue is between Klaus and Hayley, and if Elijah really needs to involve himself, he can focus his efforts on convincing them to co-parent.  That shot last week of Klaus staring like a forlorn creeper a Hayley and Jackson across the street was hilarious but also really sad.  He is Hope's dad, and not a terrible one.  Both parents made mistakes but are equally capable of parenting their child.  Elijah choosing sides is exacerbating an already strained situation.

 

I'm unclear why the sire lines are turning on each other, but I like this storyline, especially because it means flashback wigs!  No costume designer has put less thought and budget into those wigs, and I love it.

 

I like Jackson and Hayley as a couple, but those fight scenes were embarrassing.  I appreciate that Phoebe Tonkin mastered her American accent, but she only does good work in quieter scenes.  She was excellent post-fight in 3x02, but laughable during the actual fight.  Same with this episode.  I've never bought Hayley as this fierce warrior, and that sex scene?  I don't want to pass judgment on what happens behind closed doors in PT's own home, so I'll assume it was the director?   Oy.  That shot where she was bent into a pretzel wasn't sexy so much as I worried she'd throw out her back.  The exaggerated "O" faces aren't helping either.  

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More flashback. Yay. 

 

Elijah sired the asshole? Whatever compelled him to do that? Lucien might have lost it as a vamp at first but Tristan was clearly a despicable sadist even before turning. It was disappointing that he wasn`t put in his place, even by Klaus and Elijah in the flashback. He is too smug for my taste. Aya was smug, too, but Elijah swiftly showing her what`s what was sweet.

 

Speaking of compulsion, how long did it take them to freaking find out about that ability? It has apparently been two years or so since turning. And they never accidentally stumbled upon it? I like the "oops, so, that`s how healing works" and "oops, that`s how we can make more vamps" but I would have thought compulsion would be a more obvious reveal. It would have solved so many of their problems. They could have put smug!Tristan down easy.

 

I know, that`s probably the reason it didn`t happen.

 

So, their sales pitch is to Marcel? As soon as he finds out about their "murder the other lines" thing, he is not going to be onboard, seeing as he is Klaus-line.

 

Yay, Josh.

 

Hailey and Jackson bored me and their love scene? Sigh.

 

I get that Elijah finally has enough but they don`t play it as the accumulated grief over a thousand years but just over freaking Hailey. Did feel bad for Klaus in the end when Elijah said nothing. I never envisioned Elijah would be the one to be felled by family, though. If history is any indication Rebekah might but right now I`m thinking Klaus. Though I don`t think Elijah or Beks will actually purposefully kill him. If anything, Elijah might have a change of heart at the last hour and thus accidentally bring about Klaus` fall. Or near fall. Elijah will fall by friend and Rebekah by foe.  

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It's starting to get a bit convoluted.  Whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen.

 

I'm glad Josh is back, but it begs the question of why he's not interacting with Davina.  They're supposed to be really good friends, right?  She should at least be on the phone with him bitching about her disrespectful coven, etc.

 

I could actually tolerate Cami this episode since she seems to be involved in forwarding one of the plots.  I was completely taken out of the interrogation scene because it was being conducted in a police station.  Yeah, you know they video tape all that, right?  They could have at least had Vincent do some quick magical whammy on recording devices.  I guess he did that during the commercial break.

 

So...it seems like the flashback last episode could have taken place a couple of weeks before the premiere? Well, either that or it's not Tristan doing the killings either, Though can it actually be Tristan, anyway? Wasn't Tristan meeting with Elijah when the new body showed up? Do I really care who the killer is?

 

None of them are exonerated, because Tristan and Lucien obviously have minions who could do it on their orders.  About the only one who couldn't be doing it is Aurora.

 

The only thing I have to offer wrt those fight club-leading to "hot" sexy scenes with Jackson and Hayley was that I wanted to Purell my eyes.

I played Sudoku while averting my eyes.  I did enjoy that they acknowledged how stupid it is for them to be with Hope given the time-bomb nature of the spell keeping them in human form.  Acknowledged and dismissed unfortunately.  "What if I'm holding her when I start to change?!" "That's not gonna happen!"  Okay then.

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You know, the whole "I'm not a Prince, I'm the KING!" line in the pilot really felt like an on the nose reference, but this whole "war of the sire lines" thing gives me a strong Vampire: The Masquerade vibe. I've only played the computer games but this plot really seems ripped straight out of that IP.

 

Cami is clueless and useless as always, vampires are still all acting like prepubescent children with superpowers centuries later with no sign of actual development, Marcel doesn't do anything but get pushed around by much more powerful beings all the time, Haley and Jackson keep whining about the actions that Klaus took which saved their lives and that of their entire pack as though he didn't do them all a favor, Elijah keeps trying to guilt trip Klaus over that same thing. So, business as usual I guess.

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I kind of liked the flashback history of how Klaus discovered their blood turned people. But as always Elijah was right Lucian is like Klaus's worst traits heightened.

 

I love Marcel and hate for him to keep being such a pawn all the time. The actor is strong and I want him to have a better place in the story.

 

Thanks to all the forwarning I ff the Haley stuff. I can't stand Jackson and I'm unhappy she is still manipulating Elijah next week. boo!

 

Crazy sister is very interesting.

 

I love Will and continue to be afraid of his demise every week.

 

Still want Cami gone and didn't miss Fraya at all.

 

Elijah continuing to punish Klaus is getting old too and I love Elijah.

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Elijah's anger at Klaus is just not making sense to me. IIRC, Dahlia was going to murder Hayley, but Klaus convinced her to put a curse on Hayley and her pack instead. *That's* really what Elijah is so angry about? What a weird thing for Elijah to get so hung up on.

 

I actually did feel bad for Klaus at the end, when Elijah left in a huff and Klaus immediately started brooding. Especially since you know that's the WORST thing that Klaus could do. Klaus is liable to concoct some scheme that will bind Elijah to him forever against Elijah's will, which will just upset Elijah more.

 

Anyway, this was also the first episode where I could really see flashback!Klaus and present!Klaus as fundamentally the same person. The other characters have always gone on about him being sensitive as a kid, but this was the first time that I could actually see him being emotional/sensitive as an adult (in the present day), instead of just being super reactive and hotheaded and self-absorbed. I think that they're doing a good job with his character growth in general. It's great that Klaus is reasonable enough at this point that he doesn't suck all the air out of the show. He's still crazy, but now he's reasonable enough to participate in the storylines without consuming them entirely or making them all about him.

 

And I like that this year's Big Bad(s) hates the family as a whole, instead of focusing specifically on Klaus. I think the show's better as an ensemble.

 

That said, why doesn't Marcel EVER have anything interesting to do? It seems like they can't quite integrate him into the ensemble, and that makes no sense to me, because he's an interesting character played by a good actor, and they've given Marcel close ties to pretty much every other character, and he's clearly supposed to have a major role in the show. But he gets barely any characterization and he's always playing backup in someone else's storyline. WTF. If the writers can find something for boring, marble-mouthed, irrelevant Jackson to do, ffs, they can figure something out for Marcel. But anyway, they need to drop this Vampire Fight Club thing -- it is NOT something interesting for him to do. Not only was I disappointed when they brought that stupid cage-match set back in this episode, but also count me in as someone who didn't find the Hayley/Jackson "fight" sexy at all.

 

Also, it was just one episode ago that Hayley was fighting and eventually just slapping and yelling at Klaus, all right in front of Hope, without even thinking about it. She also threatened to take Hope away from her father forever, again *right in front of Hope,* without batting an eye. Now she's getting off on getting in a brawl with her husband? I'm starting to believe that Hayley is actually the most screwed up out of all the characters. And that's saying something, because there was a while there in S1 where I was like, "Is Klaus legit psychotic?" Maybe Klaus shouldn't be the only one seeing Cami for therapy. Though Hayley going to a therapy session with Cami probably tops the list of scenes I have no interest in seeing.

 

Leah Pipes was gorgeous in this episode, though.

 

This detective story about the serial killer isn't making any sense to me. How do they know the killer is either Lucien or Tristan? Couldn't it be pretty much anyone who has just come to the city? Why are they wasting Yusuf Gatewood and Jason Dohring on this nonsense plot?

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Can someone "explain like I am 5" what the heck is going on!  I find myself mildly lost!

Overpopulation of vampires has lead to blood line war (or brink of war). Vampires decided that the easiest way about this war would be to kill one or two of the originals, thousands (I presume) birds with one "stone"

Apparently there's some mysterious weapon that can kill an Original.

Looks like Lucien is the head guy for Klaus line interests, Tristan - for Elijah. I doubt Aurora is Becks... Tristan seems to care about his sister. So unless he has something up his sleeve to spare a vampire from an extinct bloodline, or he is OK with two bloodlines remaining, I think Aurora is of Elijah's line too.

Tristan has been trying to eliminate Lucien by creating a killing spree that has the same MO as Lucien's torture and death by Tristan.

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Overpopulation of vampires has lead to blood line war (or brink of war). Vampires decided that the easiest way about this war would be to kill one of two of the originals, thousands (I presume) birds with one "stone"

Apparently there's some mysterious weapon that can kill an Original.

Looks like Lucien is the head guy for Klaus line interests, Tristan - for Elijah. I doubt Aurora is Becks... Tristan seems to care about his sister. So unless he has something up his sleeve to spare a vampire from an extinct bloodline, or he is OK with two bloodlines remaining, I think Aurora is of Elijah's line too.

Tristan has been trying to eliminate Lucien by creating a killing spree that has the same MO as Lucien's torture and death by Tristan.

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I found Hayley's reaction to being away from  Hope for a whopping 6 months, though she was seeing her once a month, to be utterly melodramatic. "You don't know what you've taken from me", she wailed.............OH GOOD GOD, ARE YOU BEING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? If Klaus hadn't figured that mess out she would've been DEAD and that would've been a hell of alot longer than 6 months.  Only someone with a mental handicap would not get that the very thing she was shrieking about was what she'd planned to do to Klaus, though she wanted that to be forever.  I've noticed a few people make comments that Jackson would make a better father and that that was maybe a good idea she had......whether Jackson would or would not make a good father is irrelevant: HE ISN'T HOPE'S FATHER, period, and if Jackson wants a baby THAT bad then bloody well make yer own.  Is it just me or is everything Jackson has not actually his own: his wife is someone else's woman, the baby isn't his, and he wouldn't even be acting alpha, if Hayley and Klaus hadn't helped him.

 

Can you tell I dont like Jackson?

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