NFL Thread

[Carey]

Sorry: I'm currently an emotional wreck.

[Carey]

Okay, Buffalo.  That was nice.  Thanks for giving Denver hope.  Now it's time to do your thing

[bluegirl147]

One issue the Steelers have to deal with and soon is QB.  I think they should keep Fields.  He has said he wants to stay. Wilson has what?  One two years left?  And this QB draft class is light. I also think they get rid of Pickens.  They have a history of cutting ties with problematic talented WRs.  If Arthur Smith doesn't get a head coaching job I think he stays.  His run first offense would work better with a more mobile QB.  So another reason to keep Fields.

Edited January 12 by bluegirl147

[merylinkid]

1 hour ago, Carey said:

I agree about that.  I wouldn't bet that Rooney or Mara are exiting I'm just saying that nothing's 100& (or 0%).  Just like the weather. I never thought the Bowlen Family was going to exit the Denver Broncos (with ease).  Dan Snyder? Ditto, but I had optimism that I'd be proven wrong.

I'm still not sure what you are saying.  Sponsors aren't bailing on the Steelers, because still a winning team and one of the top names in the sports.   Win or lose, they get eyeballs on their games (Just like Dallas).

Snyder was forced to sell because of all the sexual harassment claims, the NFL told him sell or we will force a sale.

The Bowlens didn't  decide to sell the Broncos.  Pat Bowlen died and he had put trustees in charge of the team rather than handing it over to one of his kids.  The trustees then set the terms for one of the kids to take over.  One actually QUALIFIED under the terms.  So the trustees decided to sell instead.  

None of the above applies to the Rooneys.   The chances of them selling or being forced to sell are minimal.   Heck the League keeps changing the rules on how much percentage a managing owner actually has to own of the team just for the Rooneys.   

[Carey]

Fair enough merylinkid.  No joke, in terms of everything you posted, you're not wrong.  For instance, I'd be surprised (and saddened) if the Rooneys had the type of climate Washington had before Josh Harris took over.

However, I'm not completely sold on the eyeballs thing as it relates to the Steelers.  I can't remember if it was here or TWOP but someone mentioned to me that a regular season, autumn NBA game beat a Steelers NBC Sunday Night Football game (in terms of ratings).

Dallas definitely & always results in a big TV audience.  Pittsburgh is a big deal because you have fans worldwide (especially those Steelers bars on the East part of the planet).  They tend to travel to wherever the game is to the point where they'd make a road game turn into a home game.

Other than that (my in the moment personal speculation), I still do wonder why I keep seeing people talk about organizational changes & firing Tomlin.  I think a change wouldn't be a bad thing, but I don't understand why people waste their time blaming Tomlin & talking about moving on from him.  Unless they have the money to buy out his contract (which most don't nor would Art Rooney take it).  The fact is the lack of adjustments will result in the same scenario annually.  It's too bad but the point here is the Steelers are not going to win a playoff game & the product will be stale as long as the most powerful people are in their current roles.

Until proven otherwise, and that only happens if people like Art, Mike, and even Omar pivot to the rest of the league.  Though I think they've made trends toward that this season, but not completely

[Carey]

Just as the media joked about the Bills resting people for a second week, they're now officially rolling over the Broncos.  I guess they read Social Media at some point during the half.

I was concerned, but it looks Buffalo we'll get that rematch against the Chiefs in 2 weeks.  Granted that Houston hasn't found something to where they could pull the upset next Saturday (01/18/25)

[AimingforYoko]

5 minutes ago, Carey said:

I was concerned, but it looks Buffalo we'll get that rematch against the Chiefs in 2 weeks.  Granted that Houston hasn't found something to where they could pull the upset next Saturday (01/18/25)

Unless Derrick Henry breaks a leg between now and next week, I wouldn't count those chickens yet.

[twoods]

2 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:

Unless Derrick Henry breaks a leg between now and next week, I wouldn't count those chickens yet.

I agree. The Ravens look dangerous and IMO would have a better chance of beating the Chiefs than the Bills. 

[mojoween]

I could not stand Denver when John Elway was there.  I loved Denver when Peyton moved over there.  Then I could not care less, other than to briefly ponder what was wrong with Russell Wilson’s game.

But now they’re kinda likable?  If you don’t root for any of the other AFC West teams, of course.

[ebk57]

That cheese piece on the Fox pregame show just now was fabulous.

[Carey]

It's super early, but the pace of the game looks like the Eagles better start off fast since Green Bay is more likely to pull off a 7/2 upset (in which there is actual history of doing) than Denver.  Helps that Green Bay is a little wounded

[blueray]

1 hour ago, twoods said:

I agree. The Ravens look dangerous and IMO would have a better chance of beating the Chiefs than the Bills. 

The Bills are the only team to already have beaten the Chiefs (with their starters I mean). I'm more nervous about the Ravens.

[twoods]

15 minutes ago, blueray said:

The Bills are the only team to already have beaten the Chiefs (with their starters I mean). I'm more nervous about the Ravens.

The Bills have already beaten the Chiefs in the regular season and then lost in the playoffs, so I never rely on regular season wins. The Bills got destroyed by the Ravens this season, so hope they learn from that game and have a better outcome.

I hope the Texans make it a competitive game next week. I’m sure it will end on the usual Chiefs FG for the win, but no blowout please.

[Crashcourse]

I cannot stand listening to Tom Brady.  He's ruining this game for me.

[Carey]

5 minutes ago, twoods said:

The Bills have already beaten the Chiefs in the regular season and then lost in the playoffs, so I never rely on regular season wins. The Bills got destroyed by the Ravens this season, so hope they learn from that game and have a better outcome.

I hope the Texans make it a competitive game next week. I’m sure it will end on the usual Chiefs FG for the win, but no blowout please.

That was an odd game, BTW.  The Ravens scoring the way they did was expected, but Baltimore's defense wasn't that great early on.  So I was wondering how Buffalo did close to nothing offensively.

As mentioned, the Bills can't beat Kansas City in the biggest of games, but at least they've actually beaten them.  Baltimore struggles to ever beat them outright, period.

I'm with you, twoods.  I hope it's a close game but it'll probably end up being a FG win or a failed Houston attempt at a FG.  Which I guess might be better than losing by 28 in a game where you're up by 28.

[mojoween]

Gronk may be a dope, but it absolutely is Super Bowl Licks.  You can’t take that away from me.

Brady called Josh Jacobs Brandon Jacobs and I choose to believe that’s PTSD from Thunder and Lightning.

Speaking of Brady, Romo *and* Brady in one day has to be against the Geneva Convention.

[Mean Machine]

Brady also called the Eagles the Phillies.  And it's not the first time he's done that this year.  

[shoregirl]

4 minutes ago, Mean Machine said:

Brady also called the Eagles the Phillies.  And it's not the first time he's done that this year.  

To be fair I also think about the Phillies all year not just baseball season 😂

 

[Salacious Kitty]

12 minutes ago, shoregirl said:

To be fair I also think about the Phillies all year not just baseball season 😂

 

What's Brady's excuse? 😂

[Carey]

I guess I'll share some good news

 

I saw the above earlier in the week, but it's from the usual BS site. In BS, I mean it's not super credible.  Not necessarily fake either.  But when Dan Patrick makes mention about Tom Brady's future plans, I'm more likely to at least listen to someone that has at least an OK track record

[bluegirl147]

21 minutes ago, Carey said:

I guess I'll share some good news

 

I saw the above earlier in the week, but it's from the usual BS site. In BS, I mean it's not super credible.  Not necessarily fake either.  But when Dan Patrick makes mention about Tom Brady's future plans, I'm more likely to at least listen to someone that has at least an OK track record

Good then Greg Olson can come back to the A team where he belongs.

[roamyn]

So far the games today have been boring.  The Grn Bay/Philly game seems to be picking up tho.

[mojoween]

Tweeters who like Brady are like “well you have to give him time it’s his first year.”

Exfuckingactly.  It’s his FIRST YEAR.  He should not have been shoved into the lead booth without getting his feet wet on an C or D team.  And did no one at FOX ever hear the tone of his voice before?

[Lamb18]

I'm watching the Packers/Eagles game. Much as I hate to, I am cheering for the Packers. It's more beneficial for the Vikings that the other wild card teams win their games.

I feel like the Vikings are jinxed because in the regular season, they lost to Detroit and the Rams in the same week. Now they lost to Lions last week and the next game is the Rams again.

Anyhow this is a suspenseful game with both teams in it. Either can win.

[Carey]

It was even worse when CBS booted Phil Simms for Tony Romo.  Doesn't matter if the latter has grown up.  That was a dumb move from the Eye Network

[shoregirl]

13 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Good then Greg Olson can come back to the A team where he belongs.

Unpopular opinion but I don't think Greg Olsen is that great. I think he got screwed by Fox but he really does nothing for me.

Edited January 13 by shoregirl

[Carey]

Just now, shoregirl said:

Unpopular opinion but I don't think Greg Olsen is that great.

He doesn't / didn't need to be.  Greg was refreshing, and rather than move off-topic, he gave coherent, decent analysis of the game that he was calling.  Furthermore, Olsen, compared to Tom, wasn't great.  He was fucking elite

[Lamb18]

1 hour ago, Mean Machine said:

Brady also called the Eagles the Phillies.  And it's not the first time he's done that this year.  

He might be the announcer who said George Jefferson instead of Justin Jefferson.

8 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Tweeters who like Brady are like “well you have to give him time it’s his first year.”

Exfuckingactly.  It’s his FIRST YEAR.  He should not have been shoved into the lead booth without getting his feet wet on an C or D team.  And did no one at FOX ever hear the tone of his voice before?

That twanging rubber band is vibrating in my ears.

[Carey]

6 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

He might be the announcer who said George Jefferson instead of Justin Jefferson.

Whether it was Brady or someone else, if this is true, I'm sorry but that is funny as hell.

[bluegirl147]

Out of all the A teams announcers the former football player who bothers me the least is Troy Aikman.

Just now, Carey said:

Whether it was Brady or someone else, if this is true, I'm sorry but that is funny as hell.

I don't remember if he said George but Brady definitely said the wrong first name.

[Carey]

Speaking of people calling the game, and since I posted something that included Jerry Jones in the content:

I actually think the one person that also doesn't bother me too much is Erin Andrews.  While it still sucks that Pam Oliver got booted for EA, I can't say it was a bogus P.R. move.  Despite whatever, Erin is actually established.  Having seen her work in a decent role for the past 2 decades to quarter century, she actually is pretty good.  As mentioned, she sorta BS's but several people (like Charissa) do.

Having said that: I don't know how I should feel that today's Erin Andrews is older than the Jerry Jones I saw early in 1989 when he became the new face of the Dallas Cowboys

[Lamb18]

Now it seems like Packers are on a suicide mission with that latest penalty. An easily preventable penalty.

[Carey]

Looks like Philly's taking points to go up 22-10.  Forces Green Bay to get into the end zone twice.  Not looking good for the Packers either way

Edited January 13 by Carey

[meowmommy]

12 minutes ago, Carey said:

As mentioned, she sorta BS's but several people (like Charissa) do.

Charissa admitted to being an out-and-out fraud.  Frosts my buttons that she didn’t get shitcanned.  It’s hard enough fighting the stereotype that women reporters are just eye candy, not real sports journalists, and fed their lines by producers without one actually getting rewarded for atrocious behavior.

22 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Out of all the A teams announcers the former football player who bothers me the least is Troy Aikman.

You’re exactly right.  (TM Tony Romo.)  Joe Buck used to annoy me greatly, but since I realized he doesn’t take himself all that seriously, and Troy Aikman doesn’t come across as a blatant Jerruh homer like the aforementioned TR, I don’t mind them at all.

FWIW, TR was another rookie announcer who went straight to the number one team, but that was after fans had been clamoring for years that Phil Simms needed to be replaced.  Nobody was itching to dump Greg Olsen.  Problem is TR initially got rave reviews and now he believes he’s invincible.  But he’s just u watchable.

[Crashcourse]

Eagles won. *yawn*

This game was boring.  I blame Tom Brady.

[mojoween]

Brady says “I don’t know if I would have been that classy” and the nation cries “No shit, Sherlock.”

[kathyk2]

41 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Tweeters who like Brady are like “well you have to give him time it’s his first year.”

Exfuckingactly.  It’s his FIRST YEAR.  He should not have been shoved into the lead booth without getting his feet wet on an C or D team.  And did no one at FOX ever hear the tone of his voice before?

Brady isn't the first person to get the same break. Remember Jason Whitten on Monday Night Football?

[Lamb18]

 Well if Vikings win tomorrow they'll play either Lions or Eagles next weekend. I don't know which would be more advantageous  for Vikings to play.

 

[roamyn]

10 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Charissa admitted to being an out-and-out fraud.  Frosts my buttons that she didn’t get shitcanned.

And how is Joy Taylor still on air.   That's one of the few shows I can't watch because she's so terrible.

[Carey]

Just now, kathyk2 said:

Brady isn't the first person to get the same break. Remember Jason Whitten on Monday Night Football?

That's accurate, but a tough call IMO.  Jon Gruden (who I actually admired during his ESPN days) got the same deal.  Of course, TK bolted on his own.  Looks like ESPN got it right for now for the first time in a long time after the Tirico/Gruden Era.  I don't really put ESPN on the same level as CBS, FOX, and NBC from back in the day until 1997

[Lamb18]

I was wondering if that blond blue-eyed geezer in the UNRL commercials is someone famous that I should recognize or just some guy in a commercial.

[Carey]

6 minutes ago, roamyn said:

And how is Joy Taylor still on air.   That's one of the few shows I can't watch because she's so terrible.

It's opposite NFL Live, Around the Horn, and PTI.  Basically it's not only on a time no one would watch it, but they have a valid reason not to watch SPEAK.

It might be mean to say she's terrible, but when Acho and Shady of all people run away from you, then the meanness is really accurate

[Salacious Kitty]

Behind the scenes, Joy is even messier. She allegedly had an affair with Acho, among other things. 

[bluegirl147]

31 minutes ago, meowmommy said:

Charissa admitted to being an out-and-out fraud.  Frosts my buttons that she didn’t get shitcanned.  It’s hard enough fighting the stereotype that women reporters are just eye candy, not real sports journalists, and fed their lines by producers without one actually getting rewarded for atrocious behavior.

 

I remember when that happened and people just shrugged their shoulders like it was no big deal.   I read Lisa Guerrero's book a couple years ago and the shit she went through while on MNF was unreal.  And she was good at her job. And 20 years later it's no big deal that a female sports reporter is making up quotes.  I don't think this is meant to be progress.

[Mean Machine]

Yeah, this thread is taking a weird turn.

[Carey]

27 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

Well if Vikings win tomorrow they'll play either Lions or Eagles next weekend. I don't know which would be more advantageous  for Vikings to play.

I think it depends on the weather.  I'd say Philadelphia; this isn't 2017.  Minnesota has a better defense & are much better offensively.  That Eagles team is very talented, which may be great news for Kansas City* if things play out the way I expect.  If the weather sucks, you might be better off against Detroit.  Problem is they're rested this time & are getting people back as the postseason goes by.

37 minutes ago, Crashcourse said:

Eagles won. *yawn*

This game was boring.  I blame Tom Brady.

Yet it was the best game of the 4 that were played to this point.

 

* Kansas City IMO is a better matchup.  I don't think they've seen an offense like Detroit's.  Which might not matter, however, especially given the fuel the Chiefs will receive for all the mentions about 0-2 vs Goff

[meowmommy]

1 hour ago, Crashcourse said:

This game was boring.  I blame Tom Brady

Just more evidence that we did not need to expand the playoffs to seven teams per conference.  I blame Tom Brady.

[roamyn]

1 hour ago, Carey said:

Yet it was the best game of the 4 that were played to this point.

The 2nd half of the Sd/Hou game was pretty good.  Wild & weird, but good (unless you're a Chargers fan).

[Is Everyone Gone]

Finally a good WC game. This Bucs/Commanders team pretty lit.

[Carey]

A win by Washington should have Detroit joining Kansas City in terms of their postseason starting on Saturday

Edited January 13 by Carey
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