catrox14 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) Another thing that tends to highly influence how actors see their characters is they have to make themselves unaware that there's a on-going narrative happening when they're working. They cannot be thinking "oh, my character is doing this X now, because it'll lead to Y, and then his emotional growth is he learned Z". NO. When that happens, you get KC smiling like a loon in the jacket scene, because she skipped the internal motivation for the present moment, and went for what that moment represents in the character's narrative. John Barrowman says he doesn't even read the scripts much ahead of time so he can get the most authentic reactions to things that he can. He doesn't want to know what's coming later because he's afraid it will affect how he plays the current thing. But then some actors need to understand the narrative at least a few episodes ahead so they can find the nuance to apply something now. I guess it all depends on the actor Edited August 31, 2015 by catrox14 1 Link to comment
catrox14 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 That promo for St. Andrews was pretty amazing. LOL. And I thought, "Hey that's the pre-Island Oliver voice!" 2 Link to comment
kismet August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 I feel like the biggest problem with Maseo's characterization was that for most of his time on ARROW he was one of the good guys in the FB. Even in the present day he saw himself as OQ's friend & ally. He did a bad thing with the virus, but a lot of his other actions were morally grey. Its similar to Nyssa who lives in morally grey area. She does bad things when she is required too, but is not necessarily evil. They are both villains and not-villains at the same time. Nevermind, the writing for s3 was so twisted for plot & gotchas that I bet KY never knew about his role with the virus or how he actually got into the LoA. They probably told him he joined out of grief for his son, but the virus thing might have been a surprise. Honestly, it must get challenging as an actor to play some of these grey characters on ARROW because they vacillate from pseudo-villain to pseudo-hero so quickly, that nailing the correct motivation must be hard. Honestly, the whole premise/credo of the LoA was very muddy in s3. It was hard to figure out most of the characters motivations with the ever changing take on LoA. 1 Link to comment
Trini August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 That has to be a precursor to at some getting Green Lantern. I mean they can't just throw that out there for no reason. That, and maybe it's one of the places Oliver and Felicity traveled to over the summer. 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Well Coast City was on the name of the ship that Oliver boarded in the flashbacks at the end of last season. So most likely it's connected to that. 1 Link to comment
Guest August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Yeah, Coast City was on the ship Oliver boarded but also isn't that where O/F eventually settled down? I'm pretty sure the season will open with the two of them there. Link to comment
Chaser August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Maybe I'm crazy, but didn't they say that Oliver (possibly Oliver and Felicity) would meet up with an old friend of his there? Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) Maybe I'm crazy, but didn't they say that Oliver (possibly Oliver and Felicity) would meet up with an old friend of his there?Yes, that was in an interview, but I can't remember where. I seem to recall something about O&F having settled there at some point over the summer?I think Coast City is both a past and present location. Edited August 31, 2015 by apinknightmare 1 Link to comment
Starfish35 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Hmm I guess I thought that was a fan theory - not something actually confirmed. My bad. 1 Link to comment
wingster55 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Guess who's going to DragonCon Saturday and Sunday? This guy? Any questions you want me to ask? 1 Link to comment
catrox14 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Hmm I guess I thought that was a fan theory - not something actually confirmed. My bad. That's what I thought. Link to comment
kismet August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 From Twitter Stephen Amell @amellywood 1h1 hour ago If Kanye runs for President, I'll run for Prime Minister of Canada. Retweets 4,483 Favorites 8,060 3:48 PM - 31 Aug 2015 · Details Still can't manage to get images onto this website... oh well :( Anyway, it looks like my plan to move to Canada once all the crazies get elected in the USA, just got a little more interesting. At least I trust that Stephen could almost run a country or at least not embarrass it (unlike Kanye & Trump, and some of the others). Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Hmm I guess I thought that was a fan theory - not something actually confirmed. My bad. I've tried to find the interview, and I can't. But I do recall MG (or WM, I can't remember) saying something about them settling down at some point on their trip in Coast City because Oliver had a friend there. 1 Link to comment
lemotomato August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Guess who's going to DragonCon Saturday and Sunday? This guy? Any questions you want me to ask? Have fun! Are you going to both of SA's panels? I can't imagine that there will be anything that won't be covered. Link to comment
wingster55 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Gonna try. Have to miss the solo panel on Friday unfortunately. 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Guess who's going to DragonCon Saturday and Sunday? This guy? Have fun! 1 Link to comment
kismet August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Guess who's going to DragonCon Saturday and Sunday? This guy? Any questions you want me to ask? Have fun!! Any question would probably good. Whatever you can share would be great. Thanks! Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) Have fun! Are you going to both of SA's panels? I can't imagine that there will be anything that won't be covered.SA has separate panels? That's a bit odd for Dragon*Con, they usually do group panels by show because they're so big and space is limited.That's not to say they never do solo panels, I just figured they had a good size Arrow crew going so it would be one panel. Edited August 31, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
lemotomato August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) SA has separate panels? That's a bit odd for Dragon*Con, they usually do group panels by show because they're so big and space is limited.From the schedule I saw, SA has a solo panel on Friday, one with JB on Saturday, and one with KC, DR, and Matt Nable on Sunday. Edited August 31, 2015 by lemotomato Link to comment
wingster55 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) Thanks all :) Yea, SA has a solo one Friday. I haven't formulated my schedule in terms of actor panels, not to mention the discussion panels. Never been to a con...any advice? Edited August 31, 2015 by wingster55 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) From the schedule I saw, SA has a solo panel on Friday, one with JB on Saturday, and one with KC, DR, and Matt Nable on Sunday.Ah, thanks. I wonder why they broke it out like that? I know SA can fill his own room but, it's easier for fans to have group panels. There's so much to do at Dragon Con, so many different tracks/panels, 3 hotels full of space and (unless it's changed since i went), they clear out the rooms in between panels. My friend flies in from England every year and I'm pretty sure she spends about 2 weeks prior to traveling planning her schedule. Edited August 31, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Could be that he wants to give people as many chances as possible to see him. Link to comment
catrox14 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Still can't manage to get images onto this website... oh well :( Anyway, it looks like my plan to move to Canada once all the crazies get elected in the USA, just got a little more interesting. At least I trust that Stephen could almost run a country or at least not embarrass it (unlike Kanye & Trump, and some of the others). LOL Stephen would just govern by Facebook. And it would be hilarious. He'd never have to leave the set. 2 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) Could be that he wants to give people as many chances as possible to see him.So the Arrow group only has one panel? What are DR, KC, MT doing Friday and Saturday? Edited August 31, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment
apinknightmare August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 (edited) So the Arrow group only has one panel? What are DR, KC, MT doing Friday and Saturday? I don't know. But no offense, I highly, highly doubt that the demand to see any of them would be as high as it is to see SA. ETA: Nevermind, I get what you mean - it's been a long day, haha. Edited August 31, 2015 by apinknightmare Link to comment
wingster55 August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 This is DR's schedule..minus the first one KC and Nable have the same schedule. (The last one has CP and DP instead of SA and JB) Link to comment
wonderwall August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 This is DR's schedule..minus the first one KC and Nable have the same schedule. (The last one has CP and DP instead of SA and JB) The photo isn't showing up, could you post again? Link to comment
statsgirl September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) Stephen Amell Proclaims “I am Proud to be a part of the best all boys school in North America. I Am Andrean It's a very funny parody of a funny Molson's Canadian (beer) commercial that ran about 10 years ago It was popular enough that William Shatner did his own parody Alas, SA's pride in Canada was 4 yearsago. Instead of attending FanExpo in his home town of Torontothis weekend, he's off to DragonCon. And even actors that aren't necessarily "method" can be adversely impacted when playing a villain or truly evil person. Misha Collins, who IRL is a pretty amazing person and does amazing charitable works like Stephen Amell, has talked about playing a serial rapist/murderer in the movie about the real - life Canadian rape/murder couple. He said it kind of messed him up. He felt really dark and creepy and he didn't like how it made him feel and that it kind of scared him. He regrets the part and also reminds everyone to not ever watch the movie. Speaking of DragonCon, as few years ago Mira Furlan gave a talk and gave the best reasoning for why artists had more mental illness than other professions (I don't know if they really do) because they have to live so close to their emotions all the time, they have to live inside the character and the madness and having that skin scraped off you all the time makes it more like to have them go insane. Edited September 1, 2015 by statsgirl Link to comment
calliope1975 September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) Never been to a con...any advice? Wear comfy shoes/clothes. Bring snacks, if possible. Be flexible. If you find something you want to buy, buy it! You might not find it again. (Of course, you might find it at Target 2 weeks later for 1/3 of the price, but don't let that stop you. /stillbitter) Don't be shy! Chat with the celebs and your fellow con-goers. Have a great time! Speaking of DragonCon, as few years ago Mira Furlan gave a talk and gave the best reasoning for why artists had more mental illness than other professions (I don't know if they really do) because they have to live so close to their emotions all the time, they have to live inside the character and the madness and having that skin scraped off you all the time makes it more like to have them go insane. Joseph Gordon-Levitt spoke on The Nerdist podcast that when he did "50/50" which was about a guy with cancer, he had to tell himself over and over each night that he didn't have cancer just to get rid of that vibe. While shooting, he lived in the mindset that he was a guy living with cancer. I'm fairly sensitive to the energy people give off (I'm terrible dealing with angry people,) and I do not have the mental wherewithal to put myself through that kind of mental gymnastics. Edited September 1, 2015 by calliope1975 1 Link to comment
statsgirl September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 When I go to conventions (for fun or profession), there are usually at least 3 different things at the same time that I want to go to. Planning your day out is your friend. Make friends. It can be more fun to go somewhere with another person, especially if you have to stand in line for a long time, even if you're an introvert. People are going to be nerds too so you should be able to find something to talk about. Link to comment
EmilyBettFan September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Get to the panels fast. Get to the autograph line fast. Get to the photo ops fast. That's all I got lol 2 Link to comment
wonderwall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 I learned that if you have any questions about the show, non-spoilery, that you should go to Echo Kellum's twitter and ask there. I asked him today if we'll get a lot of Diggle/Felicity scenes because we were burned in S3 and he said "I believe so!" So even though that isn't a straight answer (the 'believe' bit makes me a bit less confident about his answer) I feel a little more at ease. I mean if they have scenes so far that's already better than S3. 2 Link to comment
pootlus September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Con advice - get early to the panels where you want to be anywhere near the stage. Don't hurt anyone but don't be too polite - unless they enforce queue etiquette things can be somewhat of a scrum. Trust me, I lost a good spot at a Manu Bennett panel because I didn't say to some girl "You're just taking up two seats, you don't really need two do you?" (and no, she was not a large person so didn't need more than one seat!). Talk to everyone in the queue - you're all fellow nerds, the 'we have nothing in common' icebreaker won't be there. I struck up some great conversations and kept bumping into people throughout the weekend - it was like meeting old friends. Don't be afraid to go up to the spectacularly-costumed and tell them they look amazing. If you're a guy and the costumed person is a girl and dressed skimpily, watch how you phrase the praise :) If you have a tight schedule, run - if you can - between things. It'll help burn off all those snacks you'll consume because you don't have time for proper meals. Don't be afraid to ask questions at panels. Chances are your questions will be a lot more insightful that a lot of other peoples (not that there's anything wrong with that, but surely stars are kind of over "What's it like to kiss so and so?" "How much of your own stuntwork do you do?" etc). 1 Link to comment
tv echo September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Regarding villain motivations and Coast City references, I'm going to reply in the Spoiler Discussion thread. Link to comment
tv echo September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) ER apparently did an interview with Vancity Buzz, but I don't see it posted online yet (so keep an eye out)... Elysia Rotaru @elysiarotaruIt was a delight to speak w/ the team at @VancityBuzz about @CW_Arrow & more. Keep your s peeled for the interview and more updates from me3:35 PM - 26 Aug 2015 https://twitter.com/elysiarotaru/status/636668322189148160 Edited September 1, 2015 by tv echo Link to comment
wonderwall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 MG is hilarious sometimes :p The photoshop is horrendous though lol Mguggenheim: So I asked the Arrow Art Department for copies of Oliver and Felicity vacation photos and got these... 3 Link to comment
apinknightmare September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) LMAO, they went to Japan. I don't even care how, I just need someone to help me because they're so cute. S e n d H e l p | | |0| | / \ Edited September 1, 2015 by apinknightmare 10 Link to comment
Guest September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 I posted in the spoilers thread but again, DEAD. Link to comment
wonderwall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 LMAO I think SA and EBR are just standing in front of a green screen and the writers just put whatever background they wanted. The second image looks like the one where they're hiking but they're no where near that mountain :p So it's safe to say them going to Japan is a joke :p Link to comment
apinknightmare September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Oh, I know it's a green screen, but I would think they'd make a joke something more outlandish? Like, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they actually did go to Japan with the way this show is. Link to comment
Guest September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) No but seriously why would they go to all that trouble of taking vacation photos only to split O/F up in a few episodes. Naw son. I can't stop laughing at MG's face. LMAO. Edited September 1, 2015 by Guest Link to comment
apinknightmare September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) I can't stop laughing at MG's face. LMAO. I wonder what the original pic is from. Edited September 1, 2015 by apinknightmare Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 But, but, they actually had a photoshoot where they changed clothes!!! I don't care that it's in front of a green screen at all, I'm laughing my ass off :) 5 Link to comment
wonderwall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Y'all... But what is Oliver wearing?!? -_- That sweater should be banned. Happiness suits them 1 Link to comment
apinknightmare September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Why is he wearing that ugly-ass hoodie thing over a button up? DON'T CARE, LOOK AT THEM 3 Link to comment
Starfish35 September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 It looks like MG has his hand on Stephen's shoulder in that one pic. :) 1 Link to comment
Guest September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) I couldn't care less what Oliver is wearing I'm just HEART EYES. Also, that's clearly Oliver's sweet spot! ;P Thanks to MG for releasing these. It seriously doesn't take much to squeal over something. It looks like MG has his hand on Stephen's shoulder in that one pic. :) Haha, it totally does. He looks like a creeper. LOL. So funny. Edited September 1, 2015 by Guest Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 I thought the same thing when I saw that first pic. He's noshing on her neck again, HAHAHAHA! These are silly as hell but they put a huge grin on my face. I hope, even with the bad photoshop, they actually release some of these photos as a spread for, say, TV Guide or Entertainment Weekly :) 2 Link to comment
wonderwall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 It looks like MG has his hand on Stephen's shoulder in that one pic. :) It definitely adds to the creep factor :p 3 Link to comment
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