looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Whatever was going on, I don't even think it's that much of a big deal. I mean, the show hasn't even hinted at Lauriver for a while. Olicity is the effective show ship. They should be able to say they love it without fearing for their lives. And I'm amused by the use of the word "disrespectful" wrt the source material. I have seen plenty book adaptations, and some of those were awful, but I wouldn't say they were disrespectful. About Stephen and Emily renewed twitter interactions, could that be network/producers mandated? Since it's rocky times ahead. 4 Link to comment
Velocity23 March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Last year the situation after 3x15 seemed worse. And we didnt get much interaction. Link to comment
Chaser March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I'm on mobile and don't want to spoiler tag so: In light of certain things I expected the show to have a more official stance, but I didn't expect it to happen until certain things happened. That last part sounds like Captain Sparrow. Re: SA and EBR. Could be. They didn't do it in the Season of Angst tho. 2 Link to comment
dtissagirl March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 And I'm amused by the use of the word "disrespectful" wrt the source material. I have seen plenty book adaptations, and some of those were awful, but I wouldn't say they were disrespectful. Someone ask Kreisberg how disrespected does he feel about Arrow taking Cupid, a character he created for comics that ultimately tanked, and making it recurring on television. 2 Link to comment
looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Someone ask Kreisberg how disrespected does he feel about Arrow taking Cupid, a character he created for comics that ultimately tanked, and making it recurring on television. Last year there was that video, though. Anyway, let's enjoy the unicorns and rainbows while we can :) 1 Link to comment
tv echo March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 (edited) I don't think Ben Sokolowski was hacked - here are all of his key tweets in chronological order... Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowskiI ❤ Olicity!3:18 PM - 2 Mar 2016 https://twitter.com/BenSokolowski/status/705170549543034880 Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowskiOkay arrow peeps. RT this if you're Olicity and Like it if you're Lauriver. #thishasnobearingonanything3:26 PM - 2 Mar 2016 Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowski 13h13 hours ago@BenSokolowski c'mon Lauriver. Where you at?? https://twitter.com/BenSokolowski/status/705172398841004032 Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowskiLet me clarify. The I ❤ Olicity tweet was how I felt in the moment, not necessarily an indictment on Lauriver. I ❤ Lauriver as well. 1/23:43 PM - 2 Mar 2016 https://twitter.com/BenSokolowski/status/705176627240574976 Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowskiRe: the poll. I am genuinely curious about how the internet feels. 2/23:44 PM - 2 Mar 2016 https://twitter.com/BenSokolowski/status/705176892576387072 Didn't quarks or someone here do an analysis about how ratings drop after every episode where Oliver & Felicity hit a snag in their relationship? Maybe the writers are trying to soften fans up and give them hope after the Olicity breakup? Edited March 3, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Personally I think the best part was the other writer asking if he was okay. Wait, which writer? Coburn? Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 (edited) Brian Ford Sullivan, I think? "@BenSokolowski Anything you wanted to get off your chest today, buddy?" Right after the "I love Olicity" tweet, Beth Schwartz had asked if Ben was hacked. I can easily see them seeing all the hate tweets saying "everybody" hates Olicity and "everybody" is going to drop the show after the big death and going, "You know what, let's see how many of you are out there compared with Olicity fans." I mean, it's not the most scientific survey, but a quick poll does immediately give you a sense of who's online right away. Is it professional? No, but they're probably just tired of the attacks from the dozen or so LL/BC fan accounts at this point. I wish they did a poll rather than RT/Likes, though, because the RTs do have the edge here a little. Right now it's almost 3,000 RTs to 350 Likes. Edited March 3, 2016 by SmallScreenDiva 12 Link to comment
tv echo March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 (edited) Ben Sokolowski @BenSokolowski@SchwartzApprovd nope. Genuine love!!! 3:20 PM - 2 Mar 2016 https://twitter.com/BenSokolowski/status/705170848504684545 ArrowWritersRoom @ARROWwritersIs it weird that his office door is locked??? Cat @thethornyrant@ARROWwriters Someone may want to check on @BenSokolowski.....it's getting slightly....um....bizarre over there. 3:46 PM - 2 Mar 2016 https://twitter.com/ARROWwriters/status/705177394965909504 One reply tweet suggested that he might've just been in the middle of writing an Olicity scene. Edited March 3, 2016 by tv echo Link to comment
dtissagirl March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Keto Shimizu's reply was my favorite, though: https://twitter.com/ketomizu/status/705171237828468739 Speak-no-evil monkey! 1 Link to comment
Password March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I am thoroughly entertained. Although what does the monkey mean? 1 Link to comment
looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Keto would tag her tweets Nolicity if she could. 8 Link to comment
TwistedandBored March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 All of this is really scaring me though. I feel like if I enjoyed then it would come back to me. Link to comment
wonderwall March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Last year the situation after 3x15 seemed worse. And we didnt get much interaction. Idk last year Arrow had a 1.0-1.2 in ratings during February sweeps then droppeed to a 0.8 for episode 16. I can see why the network would mandate this because most episodes during sweeps month had 0.9 in ratings Link to comment
AyChihuahua March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Idk last year Arrow had a 1.0-1.2 in ratings during February sweeps then droppeed to a 0.8 for episode 16. I can see why the network would mandate this because most episodes during sweeps month had 0.9 in ratings Instead of mandating Twitter interactions post-dumbass storyline they should have mandated no dumbass storyline. I mean seriously, this is not a situation in which the dumbassery is not visible until later. It was visible right from the very beginning. Maybe this will mean no plotty plot breakups in the future, though. (To be clear, once they went with the lying they IMO had to have the breakup...my problem is the lying, NOT the resulting breakup.) 7 Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Sorry, I don't think the CW mandated anything, especially not what happened yesterday. There isn't some major conspiracy going on here. 15 Link to comment
KenyaJ March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I honestly didn't get a mocking vibe from Jake Coburn, the former writer. He isn't saying anything that lots of other viewers don't say (he could be a fan, why not?) and he's not doing the show so he CAN say it and it's no big deal. If he's mocking, he's being waaaaay too subtle and deadpan. Agreed. Sometimes a duck is just a duck. 4 Link to comment
tangerine95 March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Yeah I doubt this is some kind of damage control or anything the CW told them to do.Keeping the buzz about olicity during the hiatus or giving fans hope was more likely MG with posting that wedding pic.This kinda just seems like them having some fun and being done with playing neutral. Link to comment
looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I thought the network mandated discussion was about SA and EBR, not Sokolowski's tweets? At least, I brought it up in relation to that, upthread. Link to comment
SmallScreenDiva March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I thought the network mandated discussion was about SA and EBR, not Sokolowski's tweets? At least, I brought it up in relation to that, upthread. Even with SA & EBR I doubt there's anything mandated. It's not like they're explicitly promoting Arrow or Olicity. I mean, they were talking about burritos yesterday. 3 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 I would wonder if they were talking about the show but given the randomness of their tweets I doubt it comes from the CW. The feeling is an embargo was lifted, LOL, but it's just a feeling. 8 Link to comment
statsgirl March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 (edited) I always wondered if the Arrow writers had an emotional age of 7 although using it as a way of taking the temperature on the internet works. (Current count 3,117 retweets and 379 likes) Ben Sokolowski@BenSokolowski Hey, I'd like to add that while Olicity is in command of the RT's, there has been a lot of love for Lauriver in various msgs. Be proud! Edited March 3, 2016 by statsgirl Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 All of this is really scaring me though. I feel like if I enjoyed then it would come back to me. Worried about enjoying other people's suffering and getting hit in the face with Karma? Yeah, I feel you. Hard not to smile though. :) 5 Link to comment
Ann Mack March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 (edited) Interesting so Katie still isn't on set per Emily's tweet: (I don't think this is spoilery since they are only interacting via Twitter) https://twitter.com/EmilyBett/status/705457250878361600 Edited March 3, 2016 by Ann Mack Link to comment
looptab March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Emily gets like 1000 new followers every day. Go girl! Link to comment
kismet March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Keto would tag her tweets Nolicity if she could. Do we think if LL dies & the show continues on its romantic trajectory Keto will return for another season? Link to comment
TwistedandBored March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Worried about enjoying other people's suffering and getting hit in the face with Karma? Yeah, I feel you. Hard not to smile though. :) It is really hard not to smile and just laugh at how lit the fandom is right now. 3 Link to comment
spartan March 3, 2016 Share March 3, 2016 Interesting so Katie still isn't on set per Emily's tweet: (I don't think this is spoilery since they are only interacting via Twitter) https://twitter.com/EmilyBett/status/705457250878361600 katie is maybe on the set, but no emily Link to comment
Delphi March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 Perhaps Katie was ill and that's why she's absent. Stephen just posted on Facebook that shooting has been paused due to everyone getting sick. Link to comment
Chaser March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 KC tweeted a photo of her and her nephew. They may be visiting VanCity, but I'm betting she is still in LA. Link to comment
Primal Slayer March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 She didn't try to pass it off as something new. Link to comment
lemotomato March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 She didn't try to pass it off as something new. If she didn't, then that's really mean to her fans, who have been frantically messaging her asking if she's still on the show. This just gives them false hope. 2 Link to comment
Chaser March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 (edited) Deleted because I honestly don't know what to spoiler tag. Edited March 4, 2016 by Chaser 1 Link to comment
Delphi March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 I'm not sure she has a choice though. She could have been told to play a long. 2 Link to comment
NoWayOut March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 She picked a day when no one was filming. It's a case of very unfortunate timing. 1 Link to comment
wonderwall March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 (edited) these are all spoilers. moving to the spoilers thread Edited March 4, 2016 by wonderwall Link to comment
Morrigan2575 March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 You guys really need to be careful about spoilers. 6 Link to comment
Delphi March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 Pretty please! I already know more than I'd like. Link to comment
wonderwall March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 SORRY! D: Pretty please! I already know more than I'd like. Link to comment
bijoux March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 This interview should crop up online soon, I imagine. Link to comment
looptab March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 (edited) How did poor Ben Sokolowski end up being sucked in the deep waters of reddit? Edited March 4, 2016 by looptab Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 How did poor Ben Sokolowski end up being sucked in the deep waters of reddit? Some people begged him to check it, LOL. Link to comment
BkWurm1 March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 Some people begged him to check it, LOL. Well that's always a mistake. ;) 3 Link to comment
looptab March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 It makes sense, he should be aware of arguments like "a more centered focus on Oliver, both as the Green Arrow and as the person" - but burn the very central relationship with his fiance with fire :) 5 Link to comment
Midnight Lullaby March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 He should also be aware of the two threads made with the sole purpose of insulting him, LOL. No surprises after that he came back to Twitter telling people to feel free to critique but leave the hate at home. Poor Ben. Link to comment
lemotomato March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 I think he went about it in a naive, clumsy way, but I do believe Ben was trying to better understand fan sentiment. He interacted with people who were nice and ones that were rude to him with the same good humor. He responded to one tweet about how he probably has a garage full of copies of unsold GA comics from his stint as a writer with "to be fair, I have a small garage." Link to comment
tv echo March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 Per MG, Arrow and Flash have not yet been renewed for another season...https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/705528010233917440 Link to comment
tv echo March 4, 2016 Share March 4, 2016 (edited) PaleyFest Los Angeles will take place on March 11-20. The only superhero panel is Supergirl on March 13, with Melissa Benoist, Calista Flockhart, Chyler Leigh, Mehcad Brooks, David Harewood, Jeremy Jordan, Greg Berlanti, Ali Adler and Andrew Kreisberg... https://media.paleycenter.org/paleyfest-la-2016-lineup/ Since GB and AK will be there, maybe they'll talk about their other superhero shows (like Arrow, Flash and LoT) as well? Maybe in the press interviews? Edited March 4, 2016 by tv echo 1 Link to comment
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