HalcyonDays March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Here is your pre-air and discussion thread for the FINAL EPISODE OF SEASON 5: Conquer. This thread will remain open until 10:30 pm Sunday night, after which you can all mosey on over to the actual episode thread S05.E16: Conquer to continue discussions. Don't forget, the season 5 finale is 90 minutes long. That's right, 1.5 hours of Walking Dead goodness, so don't forget to set your DVRs/PVRs accordingly to make sure you don't miss a single second! As always, please be respectful and courteous in your posts, please tag any spoilers - comic or otherwise - and overall, enjoy! 1 Link to comment
morgankobi March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 (edited) Per AMC: Daryl experiences trouble on a run while Rick and his group continue to feel like outsiders in Alexandria, where trouble is creeping into the gates. This is the first episode title/description in a while that hasn't caused and immediate song or Star Wars quote to pop into my head. Damn, that must mean it will be heavy. It's curious to me that it doesn't say Daryl and Aaron. Edited March 26, 2015 by morgankobi 2 Link to comment
kikismom March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Curious to me the phrasing "trouble is creeping in the gates". Link to comment
morgankobi March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 I do like that it said in, not just at, though. Are the Unfair Wolves more storm-in-and-burn or creepers? Wolves creep, but these wolves don't play fair! 2 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 I have to admit beyond my biggest fears (I can't shake the feeling that Glenn or Maggie will die, not to mention poor Tara), one of the things I'm most looking forward to/dreading is the reaction of those fans who are convinced Beth is alive, that there have been hints in the back half (the time on the clocks, no one saying she's actually dead, Aaron saying some of her old lines, Aaron/Eric = Bethyl, the dead and mutilated blonde woman in the woods) that say she will be back in the finale, that Emily will be on Talking Dead, so on and so forth. When this doesn't happen, I imagine a huge meltdown and I hope most of TPTB stay away from their social media accounts... 1 Link to comment
morgankobi March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 ...one of the things I'm most looking forward to/dreading is the reaction of those fans who are convinced Beth is alive... Uh, what? Really? 9 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Yes. They say they've hung on for the back half because they're sure she's not really dead and that Gimple saying things get weird and the distorted perspectives in Tyreese's death episode, etc. are just several of many clues, but that if she isn't in the finale it's the last straw and they're gone, etc. etc. Link to comment
morgankobi March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Being shot point blank in the head is no longer fatal? I'm glad I don't frequent what ever looney bin that comes from. It's also interesting that the current description doesn't mention things coming to a head, or anything similar. It's a pretty mild description that could actually have described the last episode as well. 6 Link to comment
Haleth March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Yeah, it was just a flesh wound. <eye roll> I'm going to be so depressed when the season is over. :( 4 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 This is the first episode title/description in a while that hasn't caused and immediate song or Star Wars quote to pop into my head. Damn, that must mean it will be heavy. It's curious to me that it doesn't say Daryl and Aaron. I wonder if that's because the summaries were released before the episode where Aaron asked Daryl to recruit with him. I just hope if anything dangerous happens someone leads Eric and maybe Olivia and Deanna's living hot son to a bunker. I like them. (Reg is OK too) 3 Link to comment
morgankobi March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 Good thought, Pete. I didn't know they were out so early. I had totally forgotten about Eric. Wonder if Aaron is feeling the same way about now? 1 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 26, 2015 Share March 26, 2015 (edited) As much as I have to admit I've wondered if there will be any fic of Daryl and Aaron sharing a blanket in an abandoned barn and making out after sharing a few swigs of cheap booze (it writes itself really), I'd like to think he still remembers poor Eric. You'd have to remember the Mr. Furley getups, if nothing else. Edited March 26, 2015 by Pete Martell 3 Link to comment
paigow March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 As much as I have to admit I've wondered if there will be any fic of Daryl and Aaron sharing a blanket in an abandoned barn and making out after sharing a few swigs of cheap booze (it writes itself really), I'd like to think he still remembers poor Eric. You'd have to remember the Mr. Furley getups, if nothing else. Daryl = Jack Tripper ... but a more confused / curious version 1 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) Andrea is the sexy neighbor who vanishes early on Maggie and Glenn are The Ropers Carol is Janet Beth is Chrissy Tara is that unfortunate Jenilee Harrison character who fell all the time and came in midway through Sasha is Pamela Barnes Rick is the kooky hard-luck friend who occasionally rips throats out Come and walk on our dead... Edited March 27, 2015 by Pete Martell 3 Link to comment
iRarelyWatchTV36 March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) FWIW, the DirecTV APG says almost the exact same thing about Conquer, only instead of "... trouble creeping in the gates.", its ".... trouble approaches the gates." Maybe they didn't want to risk giving too much away, but I notice they didn't allude to anything at all surrounding Rick's possible banishment (after the end of Try). Edited March 27, 2015 by iRarelyWatchTV36 Link to comment
lulee March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) Andrea is the sexy neighbor who vanishes early on Maggie and Glenn are The Ropers Carol is Janet Beth is Chrissy Tara is that unfortunate Jenilee Harrison character who fell all the time and came in midway through Sasha is Pamela Barnes Rick is the kooky hard-luck friend who occasionally rips throats out Come and walk on our dead... Who's Larry? Eugene - socially awkward and a bit lecherous? ETA: Oh, is that Rick? Edited March 27, 2015 by lulee Link to comment
kj4ever March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I am so excited for this episode! It seems like so much needs to happen for it to be a finale. I guess that's why we got an extra, what 17 minutes (after commercials). We'll hopefully see Rick's fate before the end of it. I would hate it if he got banished and that's where it ends, with HIM being dropped 18 miles out. I also want more Rick/Jessie to see where that is all going to go and that can't happen if they have him on lock down/banished the whole episode! 1 Link to comment
Nashville March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Beth is Chrissy I had no idea the phrase "empty-headed blonde" was intended so literally. 10 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) Who's Larry? Eugene - socially awkward and a bit lecherous? ETA: Oh, is that Rick? Yes. I guess Shane could fill that role too (or Axel or EUgene) - I just thought Andy and the guy who played Larry looked a little alike... Edited March 27, 2015 by Pete Martell 1 Link to comment
Samx March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I have to admit beyond my biggest fears (I can't shake the feeling that Glenn or Maggie will die, not to mention poor Tara), one of the things I'm most looking forward to/dreading is the reaction of those fans who are convinced Beth is alive, When this doesn't happen, I imagine a huge meltdown and I hope most of TPTB stay away from their social media accounts... Team Delusional (which is what they call themselves, so at least they're self aware) is why I avoid tumblr. I used to really enjoy going on there because tumblr has the best screen grabs/gifs but I just can't with the Beth bullshit. My prediction is that Unfair Wolves show up and Rick gets to redeem himself by saving the day (which will be kind of annoying). I also think that Daryl and Aaron will run into Morgan (because he HAS to show up at some point, right?), they will first be mistrustful of each other but when Morgan mentions that he's following Crazy Pants Rick Grimes to DC, all will be cleared up and they can also help save the day (THIS I would be okay with!!). Maybe Nicholas is the one who's actually spying for the exiles? A lot of people died on his watch, after all...plus there's Chekhov's gun. I was not expecting him to have it, thought for sure it was Enid. He's gotta be a part of something bigger than just being a douche. 3 Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Uh, what? Really? Yes, they still believe Beth Green isn't dead. SMDH... I hope Morgan makes an appearance and finally joins Team Family. Oh and most of the ASZ folks get wiped out, leaving Aaron, Eric, Francine, Tobin and the Carol's new little buddy. Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Oh, yeah, Francine, forgot about her. I like your list, but I'll trade you Oblivia for Sam and Tobin. I'll trade all but Aaron for Morgan, though. 1 Link to comment
kikismom March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Who the hell's Francine? Francine is the construction crew girl who crashed and got almost eaten by walkers when the other guys abandoned her...but Abraham had his best scene saving her, wiping out walkers, and saying motherdick! That, in the Zombie Apocalypse, is a real "meet cute". 5 Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) She also punched the crap out of Tobin after the walkers had been disposed of! I hope Oblivia is really fast with that clipboard once whatever it is creeps through the walls. Edited March 27, 2015 by morgankobi 5 Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Oh, yeah, Francine, forgot about her. I like your list, but I'll trade you Oblivia for Sam and Tobin. I'll trade all but Aaron for Morgan, though. Olivia runs the pantry, right? 1 Link to comment
mandolin March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 The pantry and the gun sign out sheet. Didn't Jessie say she also worked in the pantry when she brought the basket o' goodies to shirtless Rick? 1 Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 But she also used to be a barista and cures meat! Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 But she also used to be a barista and cures meat! So Olivia worked in Starbucks, before the outbreak. Link to comment
lulee March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) If I had to do an ASZ [non-CDB] death pool, my only sure bets would be that Jessie will be comfortably lounging in a deck chair and Nicholas will be sucked down the drain. Edited March 27, 2015 by lulee 2 Link to comment
JackONeill March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Who the hell's Beth? (Oh, sorry, I was just channeling Maggie there for a second.) 8 Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I'm going to guess when the wolves really hit the fan, Pete is gone, too. No more half-measures with Rick. 1 Link to comment
chlban March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Yes, they still believe Beth Green isn't dead. SMDH... I hope Morgan makes an appearance and finally joins Team Family. Oh and most of the ASZ folks get wiped out, leaving Aaron, Eric, Francine, Tobin and the Carol's new little buddy. What do they think happened to Beth, Daryl carried her out and they put a band aid on what was left of her head? 1 Link to comment
Pete Martell March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I forgot about Francine. I liked her too. Maybe Nicholas and Pete can just get killed about 20 times each and the rest can survive. 5 Link to comment
chlban March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Francine is the construction crew girl who crashed and got almost eaten by walkers when the other guys abandoned her...but Abraham had his best scene saving her, wiping out walkers, and saying motherdick! That, in the Zombie Apocalypse, is a real "meet cute". Not as cute as I'm your neighbor and I came to give you a haircut. I did see that on Walking Dead right? Cuz I watch Lifetime movies sometimes.......... I forgot about Francine. I liked her too. Maybe Nicholas and Pete can just get killed about 20 times each and the rest can survive. NO! You forgot FPP. He really needs to go too. 4 Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 (edited) What do they think happened to Beth, Daryl carried her out and they put a band aid on what was left of her head? I've read theories ranging from Beth returning like Jesus Christ, to that GSW put her in a coma on tumblr. Yes folks, the CRAZY IS REAL! Edited March 27, 2015 by MrsRafaelBarba 2 Link to comment
kikismom March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 If I had to do an ASZ [non-CDB] death pool, my only sure bets would be that Jessie will be comfortably lounging in a deck chair and Nicholas will be sucked down the drain. Eugene will be stuck in the filter intake. 1 Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Who the hell's Francine? Is it wrong, that I'm reading this in Abraham's voice? LOL! 8 Link to comment
kikismom March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I've read theories ranging from Beth returning like Jesus Christ, to that GSW put her in a coma on tumblr. Yes folks, the CRAZY IS REAL! Just take a look at the tumblr page for Jessie. People saying they want Rick to beat her to death, and MIchonne knocks out RIck and when he comes to he says" did you do that? You care for me!" and they kiss. Link to comment
JackONeill March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 What the hell's a tumblr? (It's a bitch waking up in the wrong century.) 2 Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Just take a look at the tumblr page for Jessie. People saying they want Rick to beat her to death, and MIchonne knocks out RIck and when he comes to he says" did you do that? You care for me!" and they kiss. Crap. I've just realized that I am an ASZhat and previouslytv is my ASZ. I'm so safe here in my mostly nice and cozy forum that I don't really know of the horrors beyond. 11 Link to comment
kikismom March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Crap. I've just realized that I am an ASZhat and previouslytv is my ASZ. I'm so safe here in my mostly nice and cozy forum that I don't really know of the horrors beyond. Stay here. Preserve your healthy brain cells. Beyond here be dragons. Seriously. That's not even the worst site. Starting to get a lot easier to understand the ASZhats, isn't it? :-D 3 Link to comment
MrsRafaelBarba March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 Just take a look at the tumblr page for Jessie. People saying they want Rick to beat her to death, and MIchonne knocks out RIck and when he comes to he says" did you do that? You care for me!" and they kiss. Now I'm not a Jessie fan, but don't want see any man to beat her to death. And that Richonne senario is ridiculous. There's crazy in all fandoms, sad but true. What the hell's a tumblr? (It's a bitch waking up in the wrong century.) Another form of social media, like Twitter, FB and Instagram. 1 Link to comment
paigow March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 But she also used to be a barista and cures meat! OMG. She cures meat??? Taking care of sick things is a job for Dr. Drunky Pants. 4 Link to comment
mandolin March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 The Termites would've loved Olivia, one way or the other. 6 Link to comment
iRarelyWatchTV36 March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 I hope Oblivia is really fast with that clipboard once whatever it is creeps through the walls. *Olivia bounces up & down with excitement* "Oooh! Please tell me they brought in a boar leg! Its way past time to get some prosciutto made." Link to comment
morgankobi March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 *Olivia bounces up & down with excitement* "Oooh! Please tell me they brought in a boar leg! Its way past time to get some prosciutto made." ...and FPP dies in the process. 1 Link to comment
paigow March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 The Termites would've loved Olivia, one way or the other. She would have created a better marinade / sauce for Bob. Link to comment
JBody March 27, 2015 Share March 27, 2015 ...and FPP dies in the process. I'm going to append this phrase mentally to any speculation I read from here on out. 4 Link to comment
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