Sakura12 September 19, 2015 Share September 19, 2015 I think it would've been better if the date was September 2516 or something. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1519738
foreverevolving September 19, 2015 Share September 19, 2015 I'm trying to think of any characters in the DC comics who use Platinum, granted my knowledge is being pulled from the various cartoon shows so.. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1520245
Sakura12 September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Interview with BR, VG and AD. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1521672
Trini September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 The cast is so good-looking, it's ridiculous. :) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1521903
tv echo September 23, 2015 Share September 23, 2015 (edited) Stephanie Corneliussen has been cast to play Valentina Vostok... Legends of Tomorrow Casts Breakout Mr. Robot Star as DC Ice QueenBy Michael Ausiello / September 23 2015, 10:00 AM PDThttps://tvline.com/2015/09/23/legends-of-tomorrow-stephanie-corneliussen-cast-valentina-vostok/ Valentina is described as a gifted and beautiful Soviet physicist who will stop at nothing to defend her precious “Motherland.” When the Legends encounter her at the height of the Cold War, they suspect her of working with Vandal Savage (Casper Crump) on a secret weapon. Ray/The Atom (Brandon Routh) and Leonard/Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) must vie for Valentina’s affection in an attempt to thaw her cold heart, and find out where her allegiance truly lies -— before she completes her project and potentially turns the tide of the Cold War. Edited September 23, 2015 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1532071
Trini September 23, 2015 Share September 23, 2015 ... Ray/The Atom (Brandon Routh) and Leonard/Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) must vie for Valentina’s affection in an attempt to thaw her cold heart, and find out where her allegiance truly lies ... I'm cringing already. "Height of the Cold War", so 1980's? --- Is it time to start a separate spoiler thread? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1532140
Sakura12 September 23, 2015 Share September 23, 2015 I'm cringing already. "Height of the Cold War", so 1980's? --- Is it time to start a separate spoiler thread? I'm thinking yes since they are filming and we'll start to get some info on upcoming episodes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1532198
Delphi September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 Stephanie Corneliussen has been cast to play Valentina Vostok... Legends of Tomorrow Casts Breakout Mr. Robot Star as DC Ice Queen By Michael Ausiello / September 23 2015, 10:00 AM PDT https://tvline.com/2015/09/23/legends-of-tomorrow-stephanie-corneliussen-cast-valentina-vostok/ And still no Zinda. :( that bums me out. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1533381
Sakura12 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty sure they'll get to World War II, since everyone goes there during Time Travel. If they do I hope we can get Zinda then. I also wouldn't mind if they made her a love interest of Sara's. Edited September 24, 2015 by Sakura12 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1533413
scarynikki12 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 Good evening all! As of this moment, the Anticipation & Speculation thread is undergoing a change. It is now the Spoilers & Speculation thread and, as you've guessed, it is for everyone who wants to be spoiled and then talk about it. For anyone who wants to avoid spoilers but still speculate to your hearts content about what could happen with the Legends, head on over to our brand new Speculation Without Spoilers thread, found here. Thanks scarynikki12 and MarkHB 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1533767
BkWurm1 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 (edited) --- Is it time to start a separate spoiler thread? It's not a super big deal now when things are still slow but as spoilers start coming in more often, would anyone else support setting up a Spoiler's Only thread like we have over in Arrow where just the spoilers are posted and then a separate thread for discussing and speculating said spoilers? It's been my experience that in the show forums where spoilers and spec stay bunched together (and there is traffic) it is very hard to catch up or refer back. The spoilers get lost in all the comments. This fall there were a few shows that I tried to catch up on the spoilers and it was just impossible unless I was willing to start back in June. Also, since in some threads I don't agree with the general opinion held by the other posters, I find having to read their reactions to the spoilers while searching for the spoilers off putting and ultimately it keeps me from posting in those threads. Anyway, I've made my case. Something to think about. Thanks! Ray/The Atom (Brandon Routh) and Leonard/Captain Cold (Wentworth Miller) must vie for Valentina’s affection in an attempt to thaw her cold heart, and find out where her allegiance truly lies ... A one off character perhaps? I picture Ray trying to woo Valentina and failing miserably only for CC to show him how it's done. I know some called it a love triangle but I bet it will be played for laughs. Edited September 24, 2015 by BkWurm1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1533998
Sakura12 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 A spoilers only thread works for me. I can't really see Ray successfully seducing anyone. I would love if Captain Cold has to step in and get Valentina on their side. However I would love it even more if it's Sara or Kendra that ultimately succeed in getting Valentina to reveal her true alliance. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1534928
Sakura12 September 24, 2015 Share September 24, 2015 (edited) http://comicbook.com/2015/09/24/exclusive-legends-of-tomorrow-casts-peter-francis-james-as-key-p/EXCLUSIVE: Legends of Tomorrow Casts Peter Francis James As Key Part of Hawkman/Hawkgirl Story Edited September 25, 2015 by Sakura12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1535807
Sakura12 September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 Here's some more info on the character, which is interesting. Warner Bros. Television describes Boardman as a Classics professor at St. Roch University, who has devoted his life to researching the story of Chayara (Hawkgirl) and Prince Khufu (Hawkman) and their link to Vandal Savage. Professor Boardman is our team’s only hope of finding Vandal and destroying him, so they can return home. But when the Legends learn a secret about Boardman, they insist on making him a part of their journey, only to learn the kind of sacrifice it will take to save the world. The return home part is intriguing, are they going with the future Team Legends needs his help after they get stuck somewhere? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1537294
kismet September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 I'm really kinda bummed that they are coming out with a love triangle already. It generally does nothing good for any of the characters involved in it. And is often not written well, some writers can nail it - but I don't have faith in these writers if they are like the ARROW/Flash writers. I wish they had chosen a different way to introduce this new female villainess. But perhaps it will be a one off or played for laughs. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1537606
MarkHB September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 My gut is that it's a one-off, but I could be wrong. And it's interesting that they referred to the character as an ice queen, in the comics she's Negative Woman, from the second Doom Patrol . Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1537790
Trini September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 ... But perhaps it will be a one off or played for laughs. I think it's probably both, and in any case it sounds stupid. But does this give us an idea about the tone of the show? With Vandal Savage and time travel, the stakes are higher; but they're approaching it with a lighter tone? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1537934
Sakura12 September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 That's what people got out of that? To me it read like Ray and CC were going to try and seduce Valentina to get info from her, not compete to try to date her. I don't count that as a triangle. I see it as one will fail and the other will try thinking they'll have a better chance. The only competition I see is who is the better creepy seducer. Which is why I hope that it's Sara or Kendra that manage to get the info they need by befriending her. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1538467
tv echo September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 (edited) The only competition I see is who is the better creepy seducer. Stalking versus freezing... what a choice. Edited September 25, 2015 by tv echo Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1538578
Proteus September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 That's what people got out of that? To me it read like Ray and CC were going to try and seduce Valentina to get info from her, not compete to try to date her. I don't count that as a triangle. I see it as one will fail and the other will try thinking they'll have a better chance. The only competition I see is who is the better creepy seducer. Which is why I hope that it's Sara or Kendra that manage to get the info they need by befriending her. Since she is going to be on multiple episoes, she will likely be a love interest for one of them or this will turn into a real thing with both guys really wanting her. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1539737
foreverevolving September 25, 2015 Share September 25, 2015 For all we know she will end up being a LI for Sara :-P With her being the one to gain the info. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1540182
BkWurm1 September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 I wonder how they are even going to do multiple episodes I thought she was stuck in the 1980's cold war era. It would make sense to maybe start the show with a multi part opener but after that, I guess I expected them to visit a location for an episode and then move on. More of a Sliders or Quantum Leap thing. Now I have to wonder if it is more like Dr. Who with them popping back and forth between multiple locations within the same episode and having reoccurring places they go. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1541754
kismet September 26, 2015 Share September 26, 2015 For all we know she will end up being a LI for Sara :-P With her being the one to gain the info. I see the makings of a love quadrangle! I wouldn't mind any of the cast honey trapping villains, whatever it takes to get the info. ;) I just don't want to have to sit through poorly written or acted love tri/quadrangles. Then again maybe these writers are better at it than arrow or flash, so I can withhold my judgment for now. :) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1542023
tv echo September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 FOX8 Australia Promo ("The Home of Heroes") - Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, DC's Legends of Tomorrow. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1543884
FurryFury September 27, 2015 Share September 27, 2015 (edited) I'm a bit late to the discussion (also, glad to be back on the boards after the summer!), but so not here for any kind of love polygon! I mean, I KNOW it can be done well, I just don't believe these writers yet. The actress is really beautiful, though, and can act (just finished binging Mr Robot, loved it so much). On a side note, I'm Russian, so the name Valentina Vostok sounds kinda weird to me (I mean, it's possible, but Valentina Vostochnaya or Vostokova would sound more realistic). Still, a part of me suspects Hawkgirl/Hawkman would be the main romantic arc, so I'm not too concerned. Sara would probably be teased with Ray (sigh) and maybe another guy too (wouldn't be shocked to see a flashback of Nyssa or her guesting) + some minor romantic action with random guest stars. Edited September 27, 2015 by FurryFury Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1543953
BkWurm1 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 The actress is really beautiful, though, and can act (just finished binging Mr Robot, loved it so much). I watched Mr. Robot too but I can't figure out who she played. I admit to not being great with faces but I'm feeling kind of dumb here. Who did she play? On a side note, I'm Russian, so the name Valentina Vostok sounds kinda weird to me (I mean, it's possible, but Valentina Vostochnaya or Vostokova would sound more realistic). The character was created in the seventies by someone named Kupperberg so I'm going to go out on a limb and say he thought Vostok sounded Russian to him. I wouldn't know any better myself if you hadn't mentioned it. Still, a part of me suspects Hawkgirl/Hawkman would be the main romantic arc, so I'm not too concerned. I have this completely unfounded gut feeling that he's going to die by the end of the season anyway. As for Nyssa, I'm getting more and more concerned about her outcome. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1545587
formerlyfreedom September 28, 2015 Author Share September 28, 2015 I watched Mr. Robot too but I can't figure out who she played. I admit to not being great with faces but I'm feeling kind of dumb here. Who did she play? She played Tyrell's wife, I believe? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1545701
BkWurm1 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 Oh!! That's who she is. I kept trying her face on the rest of the cast and it just didn't work. Forgot about her. She should nail the part! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1546060
Sakura12 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 I love all those shots of Sara for the Legends teaser. I hope they don't just stick to teasing Sara with men. The EP's said they remember that Sara is Bi, so I hope they tease some women with her as well. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1547562
FurryFury September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 I mostly expect it because the cast is overwhelmingly male (sigh). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1547782
Sakura12 September 28, 2015 Share September 28, 2015 I know, and apparently they think adding 1 woman means they can add 4 more men. Since we have Valentina and the Professor, I'm waiting for 3 more male cast announcements. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1547859
Trini September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 (edited) So the latest Flash promo confirms that Franz Drameh/"Jay Jackson" will be the new half of Firestorm. https://youtu.be/d5dtI6B2Az4 Edited September 29, 2015 by Trini Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1552133
Sakura12 September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 Wow, so they just threw that in there. I wonder if he's from Earth 2 and gets trapped or switches places with Ronnie with Ronnie being sent to Earth 2. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1552151
Trini September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 Wow, so they just threw that in there. I know, right? We here are spoiled and have been speculating Ronnie's death(?) for months, but I'm sure most of the casual audience has no idea he's leaving. Now, is Drameh playing Jason Rausch, and if not, why not? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1552209
tarotx September 29, 2015 Share September 29, 2015 LOL poor trailer only spoil people. They are probably very confused! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1552288
MarkHB September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 ... And now it's been taken down, and I honestly had no idea what was going on with Robbie / Ronnie. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1553454
Trini September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) Hopefully, this will make the CW tighten up it's marketing department! Edited September 30, 2015 by Trini 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1553771
BkWurm1 September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) The show runners have no control over them but Guggenheim constantly says he keeps trying to get them to stop spoiling stuff. Of course even if he gets the CW to clamp down, there's the Canadian promos and the Asian (was it out of the Philippines?) one that always seems to let all the juicy stuff out. And It's hard not to be spoiled. I didn't seek out any Flash spoilers all summer but the other day went and looked at them and there was nothing that I didn't already know, lol. It just all spills into the interviews for the other shows. Edited September 30, 2015 by BkWurm1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1553851
tv echo September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) Once it's on the internet, it spreads like a virus. That new Firestorm pic has already been picked up by news media. For example: Legends Of Tomorrow: First Look At The New FirestormBY ADAM HOLMES 15 HOURS AGO http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Legends-Tomorrow-First-Look-Firestorm-89057.html NEW FIRESTORM DEBUTS IN "THE FLASH" SEASON 2 PROMOPosted: 18 hours ago | Updated: 16 hours ago http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/new-firestorm-debuts-in-the-flash-season-2-promo Edited September 30, 2015 by tv echo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1554441
FurryFury September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 Yay! Hopefully, we'll get less Robbie Amell from now on. A boring character played by a completely wooden actor. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1554454
Trini September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) I feel kinda bad for them though. Both The Flash and LoT cast and crew were doing their best not to reveal anything about Ronnie and "Jay Jackson", and I think they succeeded mostly (lots of spec, but nothing directly spilled), and then the CW promo monkeys come and drop a spoiler bomb before the premiere. I really do hope that the promo department gets more careful oversight after this. Edited September 30, 2015 by Trini 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1554487
Morrigan2575 September 30, 2015 Share September 30, 2015 (edited) I feel kinda bad for them though. Both The Flash and LoT cast and crew were doing their best not to reveal anything about Ronnie and "Jay Jackson", and I think they succeeded mostly (lots of spec, but nothing directly spilled), and then the CW promo monkeys come and drop a spoiler bomb before the premiere. I really do hope that the promo department gets more careful oversight after this. Didn't Victor Garber reveal in an interview that Jay Jackson was his new FireStorm partner? Could have sword I read that not too long ago. Edited September 30, 2015 by Morrigan2575 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1555060
BkWurm1 October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Unconfirmed or not, we all basically knew since Robbie Amell wasn't a LoT cast member. Oh well. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1559083
GreatAtBoats October 1, 2015 Share October 1, 2015 Phil Klemmer revealed that Jay would be Stein's other half at SDCC, most media outlets and fans just didn't pick up on it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1559516
tarotx October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 (edited) Episode 1.03 starts production today. https://twitter.com/mguggenheim/status/651064332969639936 Edited October 5, 2015 by tarotx Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1570498
Trini October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Fedak? Wow, I forgot he was getting involved in this show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1570878
marihunc October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Fedak? Wow, I forgot he was getting involved in this show. Yep :D Seeing his name on the script gives me such warm, fuzzy feelings... :D 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1571259
kismet October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 Gotta say, I'm excited for Chris Fedak to be part of this world! Best part is he is able to handle a large ensemble cast with quality scripts & moments for most of the cast. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1571373
BkWurm1 October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 What else is Fedak know for? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1571715
Trini October 5, 2015 Share October 5, 2015 I know him from Chuck, where he was one of the main writers/producers; but he recently worked on Forever. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/22790-spoilers-speculation-running-hot-cold/page/34/#findComment-1571735
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