Season 1 Discussion

[Meredith Quill]

Discuss Titans [DC Universe] here.

[Kromm]

Some real meat to chew on rumorwise, already:  http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/03/report-the-titans-tv-series-line-up-revealed

 

Robin/Dick Grayson - they aren't going to be Dicking around (pun intended) with some version of the Titans that strips the Bat-fluence out of things, because Dick is front and center and named Robin to start (although curiously enough the spoilers mention Nightwing too--making it seem like the story of his transition will be part of Titans).  How this all will jibe with the Arrowverse/Flashverse, IF there's some kind of co-continuity (unknown) would be interesting.  There's no ownership linkage like CW and CBS have (which is why Supergirl will likely be in the Arrowverse), and there's no producer linkage (Berlanti), HOWEVER TNT is ultimately owned by Time-Warner.  Meaning it's on the other side of a structure where a co-branded universe could exist connected back to the Arrowverse shows.

 

Oracle/Barbara Gordon - supposedly not NAMED Oracle, but it's Barbara, in a wheelchair, portrayed a Hacker.  This is an interesting way to go with DC undoing the wheelchair in the comics.

 

Hawk and Dove - the version where they're a romantic pair, not siblings.  

 

Raven/Rachel Roth - odd to use the Geoff Johns version of the character, but supposedly that's what's happening.

 

Starfire - no word on how big her tits will be, or how often she'll get naked.  Let's just say this is a character they could either get really wrong... or really right.

It's Akiva Goldsman though... so clearly there's some worry.  A guy who's written some excellent movies... and... the worst mainstream Superhero movie of all time (Batman & Robin).

Edited February 4, 2015 by Kromm

[The Crazed Spruce]

Starfire - no word on how big her tits will be, or how often she'll get naked.  Let's just say this is a character they could either get really wrong... or really right.

Myself, I'm less concerned about her boob size than I am about her personality. So long as they stay far, faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from the Nu52 version, I'm happy.

[Trini]

They may not be able to do a direct crossover, but I think they will have a few nods to the other DC shows.

[MarkHB]

it's possible that the show may be renamed to Blackbirds.  Why?  I don't know. (He's on third.)

[The Crazed Spruce]

That's odd.  If they were going to go with a title with that motif, you'd think they'd use "Blackhawks".

[MarkHB]

The Turner Upfront presentation will be this morning; I wonder if there will be any mention of this show.

[MarkHB]

Kevin Reilly was asked about the project after today's Turner upfronts today.

 

Asked for a status report on the project, Reilly told TVLine at TNT’s Upfronts luncheon, “Akiva’s been very busy doing some other things,” but it’s his hope that “maybe this summer” they will lock casting and ramp up production.

[MarkHB]

From the Mind Your Surroundings thread in the DC TV Universe forum:

 

The new Teen Titans show on TNT is apparently now called Blackbirds...

Production On TNT’s Teen Titans Series Blackbirds Has Been Delayed

By James Garcia 8 hours ago

http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/tnt-teen-titans-blackbirds-production-delayed/

I note that the article specifies that this show is NOT expected to connect to the Berlantiverse.

[Trini]

Um... how reliable are those sources?(Credentials?) Has "Blackbirds" actually been confirmed as the title? Couldn't it just be a production codename?

[MarkHB]

Good question.... the only source for the Blackbirds name is one site, and all the other reports reference it.

[tv echo]

Is there anyway possible you can get more info from any sources you have, or from [TNT president] Kevin Reilly himself, on the subject of Titans? –Jeff

Seeing how many got into a tizzy and feared the worst when TNT announced its fall/winter slate – and given that there has been no movement on the casting/production front – I asked around and have been assured that the DC Comics-based series is still in development.

Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Once, Bones, Sleepy Hollow, Vampire Diaries, Arrow, S.H.I.E.L.D., The Flash and More

By Matt Webb Mitovich / September 25 2015, 7:39 AM PDT

http://tvline.com/2015/09/25/once-upon-a-time-mulan-ruby-spoilers/

Edited September 25, 2015 by tv echo

[tv echo]

The Teen Titans Series May Still Happen, Here's The Latest
BY ADAM HOLMES  40 MINUTES AGO
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Teen-Titans-Series-May-Still-Happen-Here-Latest-88197.html

[Morrigan2575]

Officially canceled

 

http://tvline.com/2016/01/07/tnt-titans-cancelled-pilot/

[MarkHB]

Matt at TV Line had some news:

Is there any chance another network will pick up Titans, now that TNT has abandoned it? –Greg

Interestingly, when we chatted up DC Entertainment CCO Geoff Johns at TCA — just days after TNT let slip the bad news — he shared, “We [at DC] have known about [Turner nixing Titans] for months and months and months. That’s not new news to us.” The silver lining: Regardless of the basic cabler’s decision, “We have plans for Titans,” Johns asserted. “It’s a huge piece of DC and we have plans.”

[MarkHB]

... and those plans are coming to fruition!

[MarkHB]

Casting call:

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“[John Crossland]: Male, late 20s-early 30s, Caucasian. Equal parts charm and impenetrability, John is a cop. He has a nice smile, tired eyes and a cool, distant manner. However, when provoked, his eyes are so lethal “they drain a man of every last bit of spleen.” John is haunted by the murder of his family. Unbeknownst to those around him, he is also a vigilante. In the shadows, he fights with the commitment and conviction of an artist, the brutal grace of a dancer. Mentally and physically, he is covered in a map of scars. And though he fights to escape his past, it is often a losing battle…SERIES LEAD

[SARAH]: Female, Mid teens, Open Ethnicity. Troubled, bullied, often scared but unwilling to show it, Sarah is a loner more comfortable hiding in her hoodie than making friends. Haunted by a dark force inside her, Sarah experiences violent episodes that she cannot understand or control. She is also plagued by recurring nightmares that lead her across the country in search of help…SERIES REGULAR

[Casey]: Female, 20s, Open ethnicity. Casey is a tall, stunning woman, her beauty so magnificent it’s almost inhuman. Elegant, refined and mysterious, she is on the hunt to discover who is trying to kill her and why. And those after her are in for a surprise because she’s more deadly than anyone they’ve ever encountered…SERIES REGULAR

[JAX]: Male, Mid-late teens, Open Ethnicity, Asian preferred. Funny and charming, this amateur thief’s humor hides his insecurities and past pain. Not the toughest kid on the streets, he’s learned to survive in the world with his wit and quick-thinking…SERIES REGULAR”

[The Crazed Spruce]

Are they going with characters straight from the comics, or just similar analogues? 'Cause from what I'm seeing here....

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“[John Crossland]: Male, late 20s-early 30s, Caucasian. Equal parts charm and impenetrability, John is a cop. He has a nice smile, tired eyes and a cool, distant manner. However, when provoked, his eyes are so lethal “they drain a man of every last bit of spleen.” John is haunted by the murder of his family. Unbeknownst to those around him, he is also a vigilante. In the shadows, he fights with the commitment and conviction of an artist, the brutal grace of a dancer. Mentally and physically, he is covered in a map of scars. And though he fights to escape his past, it is often a losing battle…SERIES LEAD

...is obviously their take on Nightwing....

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[SARAH]: Female, Mid teens, Open Ethnicity. Troubled, bullied, often scared but unwilling to show it, Sarah is a loner more comfortable hiding in her hoodie than making friends. Haunted by a dark force inside her, Sarah experiences violent episodes that she cannot understand or control. She is also plagued by recurring nightmares that lead her across the country in search of help…SERIES REGULAR

....sounds a lot like Raven....

8 hours ago, MarkHB said:

[Casey]: Female, 20s, Open ethnicity. Casey is a tall, stunning woman, her beauty so magnificent it’s almost inhuman. Elegant, refined and mysterious, she is on the hunt to discover who is trying to kill her and why. And those after her are in for a surprise because she’s more deadly than anyone they’ve ever encountered…SERIES REGULAR

....could be either Donna Troy or Starfire, depending on what "she's more deadly than anyone they've ever encountered" is referring to (whether it's Amazon training or alien powers), and...

8 hours ago, MarkHB said:

[JAX]: Male, Mid-late teens, Open Ethnicity, Asian preferred. Funny and charming, this amateur thief’s humor hides his insecurities and past pain. Not the toughest kid on the streets, he’s learned to survive in the world with his wit and quick-thinking…SERIES REGULAR”

.... is most likely Beast Boy.

[MarkHB]

They're the comics characters (I'm pretty sure that's Starfire since she's more familiar to the GA due to TTG, plus her inhuman beauty); they're just using fake names in the casting call.

[MarkHB]

First casting: 13 year old Australian Teagan Croft will be Raven!

[MarkHB]

Next up: Anna Diop (24: Legacy) is our Starfire!

[MarkHB]

Enter an Emo Pirate!  Brenton Thwaites, of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales is going to be the first-ever live-action Nightwing! (Burt Ward never made the transition so I'm assuming he was the Earth-2 Robin.)

[MarkHB]

Correction to the above: all TPTB are saying is that Brenton is playing Dick Grayson; no word on the identity or costume.  They may even start him as Robin and then have him make the transition to Nightwing.

Also, Alan Ritchson as Hawk, Minka Kelly as Dove!  Still waiting for Beast Boy.  In this version, Hank "Hawk" Hall and Dawn "Dove" Granger are crime-fighting partners and a romantic couple; the pre-Crisis originals were brothers, Hank and Don Hall.  Rumors are that they might get a spinoff if they're well-received.

[The Crazed Spruce]

10 hours ago, MarkHB said:

Also, Alan Ritchson as Hawk, Minka Kelly as Dove!  Still waiting for Beast Boy.  In this version, Hank "Hawk" Hall and Dawn "Dove" Granger are crime-fighting partners and a romantic couple; the pre-Crisis originals were brothers, Hank and Don Hall.  Rumors are that they might get a spinoff if they're well-received.

Good to hear. I've always been a fan of H&D, both Dawn and Don. (Definitely preferred the Dawn Granger version, though.) Looking forward to seeing 'em on-screen.

[MarkHB]

Brad Anderson, who directed The Machinist as well as the pilot for Frequency, will be directing the Titans pilot. Production is slated to begin November 14 in Toronto.

[MarkHB]

We've got a director, a Starfire, a Raven, a Robin Nightwing Dick Grayson, and now... we've got a Beast Boy!  Ryan Potter of Big Hero 6 will be playing Gar Logan.

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As a child, Potter’s Garfield “Gar” Logan contracted the lethal disease, Sakutia, while on an African expedition with his geneticist parents. Treated with an experimental drug, Gar survived but not without developing some bizarre side effects.  Along with skin and hair turning permanently green, the wisecracking, fun-loving Beast Boy is able to reshape himself into any animal of any size he can imagine.

I can say that I've "heard something," and that personality-wise this version of Beast Boy will be very recognizable to anyone familiar with any of his popular incarnations.

[Trini]

That's really Beast Boy's backstory? I thought he was an alien. But I've never really known anything about him, though (never really watched anything with him in it).

[MarkHB]

2 hours ago, Trini said:

That's really Beast Boy's backstory? I thought he was an alien. But I've never really known anything about him, though (never really watched anything with him in it).

That's pretty much what Wikipedia says.  I didn't read New Teen Titans back in the day, and until just now I didn't realize that he went back to the original 1965 Doom Patrol, when I was definitely NOT reading comics because that even predates my avatar photo.

[The Crazed Spruce]

I did read New Teen Titans back then (even the mini-series about the four more obscure characters relating their origins), and yeah, that's basically his origin in the comics.

[darkestboy]

First look at Brenton Thwaites as Robin ....

http://deadline.com/2017/12/titans-brenton-thwaites-robin-dc-superhero-series-fphoto-1202218594/

[MarkHB]

There was some more casting-call news that came out as far back as October.  The original articles are here and here.  Since no one has been announced I brought the discussion over here rather than the main Media thread.

[paulvdb]

‘Titans’: Alan Ritchson As Hawk & Minka Kelly As Dove In DC Superhero Series — First-Look Photo

[MarkHB]

The Metropolis announcement included a mention of http://dcfanupdates.com . It's a prototype announcement page showing the 4 announced shows (Titans, Young Justice, Harley Quinn and Metropolis) that allows you to sign up for email updates.

[MarkHB]

Yes, I'm skeptical of the age difference... but if these two are trying to be vaguely in-character here, I'm buying it...  Beast Boy and Raven, folks!

[MarkHB]

And here's why I decided it was time for a spoiler thread...

[The Crazed Spruce]

On 2/9/2018 at 5:49 PM, MarkHB said:

And here's why I decided it was time for a spoiler thread...

*braces for onslaught of "X-Men ripoff" comments*

[MarkHB]

4 hours ago, The Crazed Spruce said:

*braces for onslaught of "X-Men ripoff" comments*

Fortunately, you and I know better :) .

[MarkHB]

They've cast The Chief (of the Doom Patrol):

http://deadline.com/2018/02/titans-bruno-bichir-cast-the-chief-dc-live-action-series-1202289194/

[MarkHB]

More Doom Patrol: Beast Boy's adoptive mother, Elasti-Girl, has been cast as well!

[MarkHB]

Next one up: actor Jake Michaels has apparently been cast as Cliff Steele, aka Robotman.  If they use the original Doom Patrol lineup, that leaves Negative Man still to be heard from.

[MarkHB]

And here he is!  Dwain Murphy, of Star Trek Discovery, will play Larry Trainor, aka Negative Man.

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A pilot in the Air Force, Larry Trainor crashed his plane and was exposed to a mysterious “negative” energy. Wrapped in bandages to protect those around him, Larry struggles with this new strange power.

[MarkHB]

Here's a rumored list of episode titles... Number 7 will shock you!

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#1.1 “Titans” (Pilot)
#1.2 “Hawk and Dove”
#1.3 “Starfire”
#1.4 “Rachel”
#1.5 “The Doom Patrol”
#1.6 “The Messenger”
#1.7 “Jason Todd”

I have no idea who The Messenger is (although I've seen something somewhere that makes me think they could be bringing in The Phantom Stranger).

[The Crazed Spruce]

8 hours ago, MarkHB said:

Here's a rumored list of episode titles... Number 7 will shock you!

I have no idea who The Messenger is (although I've seen something somewhere that makes me think they could be bringing in The Phantom Stranger).

Lilith, maybe?

[MarkHB]

On 3/12/2018 at 7:51 PM, The Crazed Spruce said:

Lilith, maybe?

Doubtful, as this article (with pics of actual call sheets they grabbed) lists Reed Birney the actor... as well as him doing something particularly dramatic.  It also lists, shall we say, quite the locations.

Also interesting is that, apparently, they list the drop-dead "minor is done for the day" time as "Pumpkin."

[MarkHB]

Set photos of Starfire, Beast Boy and Raven!  I'm thinking that they're using a wig supplier that was rejected by the Arrowverse.

[RandomWatcher]

8 hours ago, MarkHB said:

Set photos of Starfire, Beast Boy and Raven!  I'm thinking that they're using a wig supplier that was rejected by the Arrowverse.

That's supposed to Starfire?!

[MarkHB]

So it seems.  I've heard some rumors that they're going to be recoloring the cast in post to e.g. make Logan green, but I don't know what the plan is for Starfire.

It's weird... the Robin and Hawk & Dove suits looked terrific.  I don't care if Kori is orange in the end result, I just want her to look good.  And that unfortunate shot of her, in that wig and faux fur coat, standing on a bleah concrete sidewalk... is not a good look.

[MarkHB]

Anna Diop has responded to the photo leak... and to the ugly comments from some.

[Delphi]

... I agree with what she's saying... but hope that that means what I see on screen isn't awful cosplay trash that I could come up with in a few hours.

[The Crazed Spruce]

These pics were between scenes, with the actors wearing heavy coats to stay warm. And I'm betting Starfire and Beast Boy will have their looks tweaked in post, especially the skin tone.  I'm waiting 'til I see an actual production shot of how they'll actually look on-screen before I pass judgement.