S48.E09: Welcome to the Party

[Rodney]

3 hours ago, blackwing said:

I know that many people here didn't seem to like David after he went all power trip, but I didn't mind him.

Well, I minded him plenty.  The guy clearly thought that he was entitled to have the game go his way, all the way.  He was yet another entitled alpha-male, and I was glad to see his ego be sharply deflated last night.

[Chicago Redshirt]

11 hours ago, Haleth said:

Eva was looking so unhappy at TC I knew David had to be going. Yay! Of course you take out the biggest, strongest guy when you have the opportunity! Unfortunately this puts a target on Joe now.

Of course Joe immediately picked Mitch for the reward since he is such a good person.

There should have been a target on Joe from Day One post-merge.

Popular guy, potential challenge beast, from a profession that's got a great reputation and part of a known duo with a person with a known immunity idol and a heartwarming backstory.

I don't know if TPTB are for some reason hiding the "What are we going to do about Joe/Eva?" talk that I would think must be rampant if the other players have sufficient brainpower, or if there is in fact none of that talk somehow.

But it doesn't seem like there has been a ton of talk about getting rid of either in the short or long term. Again, I'm not exactly Nostradamus, but I don't think anybody could beat either Joe or Eva at a FTC.

I do think Joe is a good person and picked Mitch because of that. But part of me wants to drag him down to my level and say that it was also good jury management. Assuming that Joe's plan is for some variant of him, Eva, Kyle and Shauhin to stick together, he might envision Mitch as someone who will remember that Joe threw him a food reward.

[violet and green]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

Well, I minded him plenty.  The guy clearly thought that he was entitled to have the game go his way, all the way.  He was yet another entitled alpha-male, and I was glad to see his ego be sharply deflated last night.

Well, he is gone. (RIP, David.) He was the most insightful of the main meathead alliance, all of whom feel entitled to have the game go their way, all the way - and by that I mean Joe and Eva. Unlike Eva, he was happy to work with a woman. A woman!

And his grumpy exit has paved the way for the later game to finally get a bit interesting, possibly; maybe not. So I'm glad he played the way he did, and basically asked to be shot down when he was, or this would be the worst season for me in a very long time.

[fishcakes]

I don't agree that David was an astute player just because he correctly guessed that Kyle and Kamilla were working together. David was paranoid and the most minor thing could make him think people in his alliance were plotting, but Kyle/Kamilla was the only thing he got right. He thought Shauhin and Kamilla had a secret alliance just because Shauhin chose her to be his partner in the challenge last week. Then he correctly guessed Kyle and Kamilla had a secret alliance because Kyle asked why he was so intent on voting Kamilla out. He thought and claims Joe and Eva were manipulated by Kyle and Shauhin to save Kamilla and break their word to him (while never explaining, if the agreed vote was Kamilla, why he himself voted for Chrissy). If you accuse everyone of having secret alliances and secret conversations in a game that involves secret alliances and conversations, then you're bound to hit it right at some point. His constant conspiracy theorizing is just another version of 100 monkeys in a room with 100 typewriters.

Nor was he voted out because his alliance was "manipulated," as he claims. He was voted out because he was a chaotic sideshow, insisting that everyone play the game the way he wanted them to play it and vote for who he told them to vote for. If he had just calmed down, he would not have gone home last night; it would have been Mitch, or Star, or maybe even Kamilla. No one was manipulated or talked into voting him out; he just went after and insulted too many people and they didn't want that energy around any longer.

He also is a complete jerkstore about Mary in his EW exit interview. I mean, he's a giant jackass in the way he speaks about everyone in that interview, but what he says about Mary is especially awful because she was loyal to him. She went from being maybe my favorite player this season to one of my least favorites because she became entitled and bossy as soon as she joined up with David, but even so, she doesn't deserve this:

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Oh, Mary, I love Mary. She's great. She really is. And this was a tough part in the game to navigate because Mary latched onto me, and rightfully so. When the tribe swap happens, I just wanted to protect her, because I knew that she'd been through so much, and that's just the kind of person that I am. And so I wanted to really get close to her and basically just make sure she doesn't go home.

But my number one ally on the swap was Eva. I really wanted to work with Eva long term. Mary sort of latched onto me and I did the best I could to keep her at arm’s length, but she was just everywhere and she was following me around. And again, not to take anything away from Mary. She's a great player and she's a great person, but I couldn't separate myself from her in the strong five.

She was close with Eva and she was close with Joe, and so I think she was working with us and Joe and Eva saw that, “Okay, she's part of the group, I guess.” So I know a lot of people were like, “Well, David brought in Mary,” and it really wasn't like me bringing in Mary. It was Mary sort of inserting herself into the group and then attaching herself to me. And it just came to the point where I'm like, “I can't do anything about Mary. She's here. We might as well use her for a number.”

And so it was the strong six in front of Mary. When Mary was not around, it was the strong five. She was always going to be the sixth boot, which I don't think was ever really truly clarified.

 

He's a bitter loser. He's the Andrew Savage of the New Era.

[violet and green]

1 hour ago, fishcakes said:

I don't agree that David was an astute player

I didn't say he was an astute player, just that he had more insight or at least a feeling-sense of what was actually going on than Joe and Eva. Which is not saying much, but it is something.

[fishcakes]

6 minutes ago, violet and green said:

I didn't say he was an astute player

Oh, I know. Sorry, I didn't mean you specifically; I just happened to post right after you did. But earlier, a couple of other people have said they thought he was right in all his claims about the other players, and even Dalton Ross was telling him how right he was.

Edited April 25 by fishcakes

[violet and green]

4 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

No, sorry, I didn't mean you specifically; I just happened to post right after you did. But earlier, a couple of other people have said they thought he was right in all his claims about the other players, and even Dalton Ross was telling him how right he was.

Oh right, thanks!

It just goes to show how much my fervent interest in this New Era of Survivor has waned that I rarely go on to read Dalton's recaps or exit interviews anymore.

[KeithJ]

7 hours ago, blackwing said:

The clue in the chip bowl was ridiculous, if there were assigned seats and each seat had its own chip bowl.

I thought this was discussed somewhere else here.  Seats were assigned because the advantage was going to the person with immunity. It wasn’t whoever finds it gets it.

[Chicago Redshirt]

2 hours ago, fishcakes said:

I don't agree that David was an astute player just because he correctly guessed that Kyle and Kamilla were working together. David was paranoid and the most minor thing could make him think people in his alliance were plotting, but Kyle/Kamilla was the only thing he got right. He thought Shauhin and Kamilla had a secret alliance just because Shauhin chose her to be his partner in the challenge last week. Then he correctly guessed Kyle and Kamilla had a secret alliance because Kyle asked why he was so intent on voting Kamilla out. He thought and claims Joe and Eva were manipulated by Kyle and Shauhin to save Kamilla and break their word to him (while never explaining, if the agreed vote was Kamilla, why he himself voted for Chrissy).

I'm not saying I'd use "astute" to describe David's gameplay either, but I think he probably deserves more credit than you seemingly were willing to give him. 

It looked like Shauhin thought he and Kamilla were tight, so any speculation David had about a secret alliance between Shauhin and Kamilla has at least some legs. 

Joe and Eva were talked into saving Kamilla and voting Chrissy off by Kyle. Manipulation might be too strong a word for it, but this too has a basis.

As far as I know, the only thing he got "wrong" was the notion of Joe "breaking his word." 

[SVNBob]

Cedrick, Chrissy, now David.

 

47 seasons later and the Alphabet Strategy is back in play!

[Nashville]

On 4/24/2025 at 2:10 AM, OutOfTheQuestion said:

David complaining that Shauhin or Kyle was trying to undermine the "Strong Five" by aligning with Kamilla was more than a little undone by his immediately bringing Mary into the group without any debate.

Yes Padawan, the cognitive dissonance was extra strong with this one.

 

On 4/23/2025 at 10:47 PM, bunnyface said:

Sweet sweet sweet.

But somehow I've turned on Mary.  I'm not as happy to see her survive as I was.  Maybe guilt by association and once her association is gone I'll feel differently again 

Likewise.  I was happy to see Mary claw her way back from the abyss - but once having re-established some stability in her game, it seemed Mary couldn’t simply relax and let herself be the power behind David’s throne.  Seemed to me like Mary communicated her own latent paranoia about her position in the game to David, who then proceeded to amplify that paranoia and broadcast it all over everyone.

 

7 hours ago, fishcakes said:

[David] also is a complete jerkstore about Mary in his EW exit interview. I mean, he's a giant jackass in the way he speaks about everyone in that interview, but what he says about Mary is especially awful because she was loyal to him. She went from being maybe my favorite player this season to one of my least favorites because she became entitled and bossy as soon as she joined up with David, but even so, she doesn't deserve this:

David is doing his level best not to own his own mistakes, and make it seem like Mary was a hanger-on whose clinginess was a boat anchor to his otherwise perfect game - but it was David who unilaterally chose to push the whole “our Strong 5 is now a Strong 6” line down the throats of his alliance mates.

[30 Helens]

David: “…and then you went back on your word when you-“

Joe: “I didn’t go back on my word.”

David: “I can tell Kyle and Kamilla are working together.”

Joe: “I didn’t go back on my word.”

David: “I think Eva is the awesomeist, and I really hope you or she wins!”

Joe: “I didn’t go back on my word.”

It really didn’t matter what David said or did after that verbal slip, once he accused Mr. Integrity of breaking a promise, he was toast. And while I like Joe and think he’s a genuinely decent guy, was I alone in finding him a little scary in that moment?

 

7 hours ago, fishcakes said:

[David] also is a complete jerkstore about Mary in his EW exit interview.

Dicks gotta dick.

[seacliffsal]

3 hours ago, SVNBob said:

Cedrick, Chrissy, now David.

 

47 seasons later and the Alphabet Strategy is back in play!

Brilliant!  And, it gives me hope because that means Eva would be next...

[rhygirl720]

16 hours ago, blackwing said:

No different than all the other years when there are so many yoga/balance challenges (which I always thought were designed to favor Joe Anglim when he was on the season) or puzzle challenges.  I always think the producers manipulate the seasons to some extent (cue in all the people who claim Quiz Show whatever, etc) and this season, they want either of their darlings (Eva or Joe) to win, and that's why there are so many strength challenges.  I would like to see how Joe or Eva do in an individual puzzle.

I've been pretty vocal about past survivor challenges being ridiculously puzzle centric. So, my take here is consistent. What would be refreshing is if the next challenge was a puzzle or even one of their janky carnival games....So I can watch the #strong alliances head explode.

I liked David in the beginning, but he had become increasingly unlikeable in his delivery of his viewpoint. His emotional intelligence seems lacking.... His interview cements that for me.

What I'd like to see go forward is Kyle and Kamilla play the middle.... that would be the smart play and then we would be back to a more fluid alliance dynamic.

[Blip]

In previous seasons weren't there some secret advantages that required the person to successfully sneak out of camp without being noticed?  Eva's note said she was to sneak out of camp to get her advantage, yet she was noticed doing so. Was that really a 50-50 chance that she would pick the Safety Without Power?  It would have been nice if they had showed that the other bamboo really contained a note saying she lost the game.

[SummerDreams]

Jeff and Co think that we watch this game for the characters they produce every time so they thought we'd be amazed at Eva, a person with autism, playing survivor. I mean, I like the different characters but this is not charity contest, I want to see the strategy, the relationships, the back and forth, the decisions. Eva was the least suitable person for this game because all she did was follow a father figure and make zero decisions herself.

[iMonrey]

7 hours ago, Nashville said:

but it was David who unilaterally chose to push the whole “our Strong 5 is now a Strong 6” line down the throats of his alliance mates.

Did he? I don't recall any footage of David "shoving Mary down the throats of his alliance mates." She just sort of glommed onto him, just like he said. Did I miss a scene where the other alliance people objected to Mary being around and David told them to kick rocks or something?

Wow. I get that people hate David, and I didn't particularly care for him either, but I feel like some of the other players' actions are forcing me to defend him to an extent because of the things he's being accused of. He's a meathead for sure and sort of braggy but I never actually saw him "bully" anyone or force anyone to do anything. He tried to talk people into doing things, sure, but so have Kyle and Shauhin and . . . oh, just about anyone else who's ever played Survivor.

Geez. You'd think ran over a puppy or something.

[LadyChatts]

15 hours ago, fishcakes said:

He also is a complete jerkstore about Mary in his EW exit interview. I mean, he's a giant jackass in the way he speaks about everyone in that interview, but what he says about Mary is especially awful because she was loyal to him. She went from being maybe my favorite player this season to one of my least favorites because she became entitled and bossy as soon as she joined up with David, but even so, she doesn't deserve this:

He's a bitter loser. He's the Andrew Savage of the New Era.

David seems like a “it’s not me, it’s you” type person.  I’m actually amused about his exit interviews and take on Mary, simply because it seemed like Mary was the one he was blaming the Kamilla vote on and telling everyone that Mary wanted Kamilla.  Now I’m not saying he didn’t have his own reservations about Kamilla and who she might be working with, but it seemed like if he hadn’t just been dead set on following Mary’s lead with voting Kamilla off, maybe that wouldn’t have spooked Kyle so much, and perhaps Kyle would have stayed on course to target Shauhin and inadvertently blew up his and Kamilla’s game by going that direction.  Instead of turning towards David and Mary because of how paranoid and demanding the duo were seeming.  Just saying, for someone that allegedly wasn’t a vital part of David’s alliance, it seemed like Mary made a big impact. 

[30 Helens]

5 hours ago, rhygirl720 said:

What I'd like to see go forward is Kyle and Kamilla play the middle....

Isn’t that exactly what they’re doing?

I’m really enjoying the K/K stealth alliance. I hope they continue to do well, but I’m not sure they can keep their partnership under wraps for much longer. And if it comes out, I think the reigning King and Queen of the Prom (Joe and Eva) may have a big problem with that.

[stcroix]

I'm not sure how much on the autism spectrum Eva actually is. She's working on a PhD and is the captain of the men's hockey team at Brown. It doesn't seem that autism is limiting her in concentrating on problems or working with people. I think they're playing this storyline up. Joe is a little too 'helpful big brother' to her. She's got it made! (I've only seen her do that hand grabbing thing once and the camera made sure to zoom in to make sure we noticed) Sorry Eva if I'm wrong.

It always bugs me when the other players won't break up a power couple because they are charismatic. It's a 2 vote against your 1 vote! Break that couple up, send Eva home. I honestly think she's a better player than Joe. 

[Nashville]

12 minutes ago, stcroix said:

I'm not sure how much on the autism spectrum Eva actually is. She's working on a PhD and is the captain of the men's hockey team at Brown. It doesn't seem that autism is limiting her in concentrating on problems or working with people. 

Autism is a difference, not a disease.

 

12 minutes ago, stcroix said:

I think they're playing this storyline up.

No argument here.

[SVNBob]

 

47 minutes ago, Nashville said:

1 hour ago, stcroix said:

I'm not sure how much on the autism spectrum Eva actually is. She's working on a PhD and is the captain of the men's hockey team at Brown. It doesn't seem that autism is limiting her in concentrating on problems or working with people. I

Autism is a difference, not a disease.

Hence the term "spectrum"; meaning "wide range".  (Even if a linear spectrum is not really a good analogy.)

[Chicago Redshirt]

1 hour ago, stcroix said:

I'm not sure how much on the autism spectrum Eva actually is. She's working on a PhD and is the captain of the men's hockey team at Brown. It doesn't seem that autism is limiting her in concentrating on problems or working with people. I think they're playing this storyline up. Joe is a little too 'helpful big brother' to her. She's got it made! (I've only seen her do that hand grabbing thing once and the camera made sure to zoom in to make sure we noticed) Sorry Eva if I'm wrong.

It always bugs me when the other players won't break up a power couple because they are charismatic. It's a 2 vote against your 1 vote! Break that couple up, send Eva home. I honestly think she's a better player than Joe. 

As cynical as I might be about a lot of things, I don't think TPTB would let a contestant who was not on the autism spectrum pretend to be so to the audience.

Except in a variation on the Johnny Fairplay "my dead grandma" sort of way just to the players while winking at the audience that she's pretending to have that diagnosis as a strategy and what maroons the other players are for believing her. But even then I think that they would not want to endure the backlash from allowing someone to pretend to have a diagnosis that they don't actually have, misrepresenting autism, etc. And they would probably not show that footage.

I think in the age of the Internet, TPTB would have to know that something would uncover that she was faking and they'd look foolish.

I do think part of the point is educating people that autism doesn't mean a complete social misfit or behaving like Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man character necessarily. So hopefully viewers will come to understand that basic point, even if there's resistance due to dislike of Eva or TPTB essentially yelling "MESSAGE!" every time Eva's on screen.

It's often hard to argue "better" player in a vacuum when there's not an obvious disparity or misplay by one of them (pick your early boot is a worse player than anyone left). Even with the extended episodes, we are not seeing a lot of the backstory between the relationships and games strategy.

It is especially hard to evaluate when two players are super-closely aligned in strategy/gameplay as Joe and Eva.

I  have the impression that Eva WANTS it more, and that Joe was essentially truthful that he would put her game over his own. Which IMO makes him a worse player. But willingness to self-sacrifice may make him a better person in the eyes of the jury which is of course the only thing that ultimately matters.

I have the impression that Joe has a wider network of relationships with players than Eva, and that if Eva got booted, Joe would be bummed but would carry on much as he has been. I don't know how well Eva would adjust if she didn't have Joe as a protector/friend.  No one has as far as I recall has even attempted to exploit Eva's announced inability to read social cues. (There was the one person who told a lie that she caught not because of her read but because she had info that contradicted it, but that doesn't count).

[ljenkins782]

On 4/25/2025 at 9:00 AM, rhygirl720 said:

I liked David in the beginning, but he had become increasingly unlikeable in his delivery of his viewpoint. His emotional intelligence seems lacking.... His interview cements that for me.

David's likeability seems contingent upon whether he finds his company to be worthy of his greatness. The undisguised sneering toward Chrissy and Kamilla and the way the good guy mask drops the minute he doesn't get his way seemed most indicative of the real David. Not too different than a lot of attractive young guys who show 2 entirely different faces of themselves depending on who's in front of them (a hot chick vs an "old lady", for example).

I'm rooting for Kyle and Kamilla to ride this secret alliance to the end, but I'm sure that Kamilla will get zero credit for her part since Kyle is the face of the alliance. Kyle has been the surprise of the season for me, I really read him wrong in the very beginning. I'd kind of thought he was going to be a nerd and an outsider and maybe he had a shirt on more often in the beginning, because his athleticism wasn't as apparent to me either. Also, I don't know if it's his haircut or what, but he's got a real 90s sitcom kid look to him.

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Did he? I don't recall any footage of David "shoving Mary down the throats of his alliance mates." She just sort of glommed onto him, just like he said. Did I miss a scene where the other alliance people objected to Mary being around and David told them to kick rocks or something?

David definitely came right out and said "Mary's with me now, so we're a strong six." I remember noting the quote (plus I watch each episode twice because I secretly watch it during the day on Thursdays and then watch it again at a later time with my husband and pretend to be completely shocked by each turn of events, lol) because it seemed stunningly hypocritical for him to be so indignant over the possibility of Kyle or Shauhin working with Kamilla when he'd seemingly tucked Mary right in his pocket.

As for how he's being a dick about her now, I wonder how much of that is damage control with the girlfriend. Kyle didn't come out and say it, but there was a heavy implication on something going on there. distancing himself and saying that it was all on Mary is classic deflection. 

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I  have the impression that Eva WANTS it more, and that Joe was essentially truthful that he would put her game over his own. Which IMO makes him a worse player. But willingness to self-sacrifice may make him a better person in the eyes of the jury which is of course the only thing that ultimately matters.

I have the impression that Joe has a wider network of relationships with players than Eva, and that if Eva got booted, Joe would be bummed but would carry on much as he has been. I don't know how well Eva would adjust if she didn't have Joe as a protector/friend.  No one has as far as I recall has even attempted to exploit Eva's announced inability to read social cues. (There was the one person who told a lie that she caught not because of her read but because she had info that contradicted it, but that doesn't count

I think Joe's reaction to Eva's departure would be entirely contingent upon HOW she went out, which is a very significant piece. Since he's never going to betray her, it would mean the tribe would have to betray him in order to get her out. So I'm not sure that he'd just pick up and go on. On the other hand, I kinda think she might be able to regroup without him since he was her protector and not the other way around.

Joe is kind of a rare guy, he's the muscle and the social threat, but he actually does seem to be a genuinely good guy. LIke what I said above about David showing different faces depending on his feelings about the person in front of him, Joe genuinely seems to treat everyone well. I can root for him because he hasn't really shown himself to be anything less than genuine. That could well be his downfall, but it's refreshing to see. 

Also, he's not bad on the eyes. It's like if Christopher Jackson and Dominic Hoffman (aka Julian Day from A Different World) got melded together.

[Blip]

What does everyone think of the way David lost that immunity challenge? I read that EW interview where he said something about instinctively moving forward as if trying to catch the ball is why he fell off the box, but rewatching it slow motion, it is not clear what happened.  He did allow the ball to start rolling, then caught it, then it looked odd the way he appeared to have lost balance or had tremors in his legs that made him step off.

The excuse that David still had plenty more in the tank was not very convincing. I am sure the players eliminated in the first few minutes had plenty left in the tank too, but they probably messed up in not knowing how much force needed to be applied to hold the ball in place. It was totally about still having strength left, it also required the skill to apply the right amount of force while staying balanced.

It looked like the challenge was designed so that each player's arms started out bent at right angles, and this was achieved by having the players of differing height stand of different sized boxes.

[violet and green]

I can't wait until next week when we don't have to talk about David anymore, (unless he shows up on the jury wearing nipple tassles on all four nips).

[millennium]

On 4/24/2025 at 1:15 AM, Andyourlittledog2 said:

Sometimes I think I'm watching The Godfather.

David to Joe:

[Nashville]

12 hours ago, millennium said:

David to Joe:

Considering how circumstances unfolded, you sure that’s not Joe to David…?  😄

[millennium]

1 hour ago, Nashville said:

Considering how circumstances unfolded, you sure that’s not Joe to David…?  😄

Now that you mention it, lol. 

 

[Lantern7]

Erik's cartoon for this episode, "Evolve or Die":

[stcroix]

On 4/26/2025 at 3:29 AM, Nashville said:

Autism is a difference, not a disease.

 

No argument here.

I didn't say it was a disease, I said there are different levels of autism. My grandson is autistic and there is no way he could ever accomplish what Eva has. 

On 4/26/2025 at 5:33 AM, Chicago Redshirt said:

As cynical as I might be about a lot of things, I don't think TPTB would let a contestant who was not on the autism spectrum pretend to be so to the audience.

Except in a variation on the Johnny Fairplay "my dead grandma" sort of way just to the players while winking at the audience that she's pretending to have that diagnosis as a strategy and what maroons the other players are for believing her. But even then I think that they would not want to endure the backlash from allowing someone to pretend to have a diagnosis that they don't actually have, misrepresenting autism, etc. And they would probably not show that footage.

I think in the age of the Internet, TPTB would have to know that something would uncover that she was faking and they'd look foolish.

I do think part of the point is educating people that autism doesn't mean a complete social misfit or behaving like Dustin Hoffman's Rain Man character necessarily. So hopefully viewers will come to understand that basic point, even if there's resistance due to dislike of Eva or TPTB essentially yelling "MESSAGE!" every time Eva's on screen.

It's often hard to argue "better" player in a vacuum when there's not an obvious disparity or misplay by one of them (pick your early boot is a worse player than anyone left). Even with the extended episodes, we are not seeing a lot of the backstory between the relationships and games strategy.

It is especially hard to evaluate when two players are super-closely aligned in strategy/gameplay as Joe and Eva.

I  have the impression that Eva WANTS it more, and that Joe was essentially truthful that he would put her game over his own. Which IMO makes him a worse player. But willingness to self-sacrifice may make him a better person in the eyes of the jury which is of course the only thing that ultimately matters.

I have the impression that Joe has a wider network of relationships with players than Eva, and that if Eva got booted, Joe would be bummed but would carry on much as he has been. I don't know how well Eva would adjust if she didn't have Joe as a protector/friend.  No one has as far as I recall has even attempted to exploit Eva's announced inability to read social cues. (There was the one person who told a lie that she caught not because of her read but because she had info that contradicted it, but that doesn't count).

I didn't say Eva is faking being autistic. Sorry if it sounded that way.

[PaperTree]

Finally read David's EW interview and what a bunch of self-righteous BS.

Poor baby.  Had he made it to F3 with Joe and Eva, he probably would have gotten zero votes.

And the GF dumped him.  LOL.  But now has the bestest, most perfect squeeze ever.  Sure Jan.

Unless the gang whack Eva and Joe, they're going to lose.

[PaperTree]

A bit OT, but today is Willie Nelson's 92 birthday.

My FM xpn.org just played his cover of the classic:

"The Harder They Come", the harder they fall and David just popped back into my head.

LOL  😎

[Nashville]

29 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

A bit OT, but today is Willie Nelson's 92 birthday.

My FM xpn.org just played his cover of the classic:

"The Harder They Come", the harder they fall and David just popped back into my head.

LOL  😎

Considering the circumstances, would that mean that on this particular occasion David and Goliath are the same person…?  😄