S01.E12: 6:00 P.M.

[Raachel2008]

7 hours ago, debraran said:

That's what the producer is thinking, depending on plots 2 months could work, but 3 might be better. I think 3 is fine, most lives are boring in that a lot of things don't happen hourly, it's like watching paint dry.  : )

We know Frank goes away and and he and Noah have a big blowout and I get that, he defies him in a way that makes it very hard to send him home. I was disappointed when Noah on a talk show said "Oh our next encounter wont be as emotional as that clip they showed, anger and tears. I also get he will be exhausted and I understand.

In knowing and seeing addicts during my life, in hospital and out, they lie. They lie a lot. I'm not saying Langdon is but I wouldn't be surprised. There are thousands of interviews online and stories of addicts that were doctor's, nurses, etc and they lie to themselves and they lie to others. I'm sorry, if he was so "barely an addict" he should have asked for help. Carter in ER also lied, also thought he was fine, pointed out how he helped others, helped someone not make a mistake with patient and they just stared at him. Doesn't change his condition.

I meant that 3 months would be enough time for Langdon go to rehab - if they want to keep the character - and for Robby to get the help *Robby* needs. He is suffering from PTSD and I don’t see he getting better after this MS. 

[statsgirl]

Knowing that hospitals have such a detailed plan makes me feel better.

But would a hospital live it to second and third year residents to be responsible for whole sections? There should be more attendings there.

Was that horror and awe on the face of McKay's ex as he watched what was going on in the ER? I hope that he appreciates her more now than the flake he is currently living with.

Mel was missing the reassurance of having Langdon there, and ridiculously happy when she saw him. (I will miss her if she's moved on to another rotation for season 2.)

Santos was in her heaven.

Good for Javadi. And good for the writers (Scott Gemmell and Joe Sachs) for showing just how rigid her mother is, and how it hinders her.

 

Edited March 23 by statsgirl

[Notabug]

38 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Knowing that hospitals have such a detailed plan makes me feel better.

But would a hospital live it to second and third year residents to be responsible for whole sections? There should be more attendings there.

When the initial call went out to the ER that a mass casualty was occurring; there would've been an automatic all-page, probably sent to every member of the medical staff.  This would be a signal for every one available to come to the hospital.  In addition to ER docs, general surgeons, urologists, neurosurgeons, ear nose and throat, orthopedists would've come in to handle what they could.

As far as letting second and third years be in charge with the attendings nearby; yes, that is how it works.  Robby made it very clear that they were to do what they felt comfortable doing and to get help when they weren't.

Back in my second year of residency, umpteen years ago, I did a 4 month general surgery rotation, a requirement for my OB/GYN residency at the time.  At night, the chief residents (5th years) took call from home and were called in only if needed.  Otherwise, our call team was an intern and a second or third year resident; meaning that there were plenty of nights when I was the senior 'general surgeon' in the house.  This was a level one trauma center and we got lots of transfers from the hinterlands of auto accidents and a lot of farm accidents, too.  I recall the chief resident telling me; 'You know 15 minutes worth of stuff to do to anybody.  Intubate, place the central line and tap the belly.  I'll be there by the time you're done.'  Nothing that intense ever happened but there were more than a few nights where I was watching the clock hoping the hands would move a little quicker.   At that point, I did know how to do (and had done) all of those procedures and, if I'd had to do them by myself; I'd have jumped in and done what was needed.  This is what the job requires.

It wouldn't happen nowadays, but, after my first few months of internship; I was sometimes alone on call in the hospital.  The chief residents took call from home.  And, yes, I performed more than a couple crash cesareans with a nurse and a med student assisting because we couldn't wait for help.

Edited March 23 by Notabug

[circumvent]

someone mentioned that the episode was short and I think it is because so much happened, they probably filmed this and next episodes together. 

It was pretty intense and I thought very well done. It showed the confusion but also showed compassion and improvisation, nothing was confused to the viewers. Well written, directed and acted.

The faces of the interns when Robby was instructing them was the right mix. For the first time I thought the acting from "Santos" was on the mark. I could almost see the adrenaline building, just by her facial expression.

The props department seems to be having a lot of fun with the fake vaginas and fake penises. Another first was the catheterized penis.

I guess someone also mentioned the woman who just starts crying on her chair. That was heartbreaking. This country, destroying what could be fixed if common sense didn't disappeared when powerful lobbyists arrive with their bags of cash

I am going to guess that the shooter is not the kid who run, but he will die as a victim.], and that Jake is fine. His lack of communication is there to add to the heaviness in Robby's shoulders that day

[mbluecpa]

Whew! I don’t know how it escaped me that this season will be 15 episodes, but I’m glad to see this shift continue a little longer.

Three short, relatively dialog-free scenes really jumped out at me: the woman crying in her wheelchair, McKay’s ex slowly taking in exactly what her world is on a daily basis, and Mel’s relief at the brief reassurance from Langdon.  

It was also good to see the administrator (Gloria) supportive of Robby/the ER and completely on top of everything needed to deal with the mass casualties.  

[debraran]

On 3/23/2025 at 5:55 AM, circumvent said:

someone mentioned that the episode was short and I think it is because so much happened, they probably filmed this and next episodes together. 

It was pretty intense and I thought very well done. It showed the confusion but also showed compassion and improvisation, nothing was confused to the viewers. Well written, directed and acted.

The faces of the interns when Robby was instructing them was the right mix. For the first time I thought the acting from "Santos" was on the mark. I could almost see the adrenaline building, just by her facial expression.

The props department seems to be having a lot of fun with the fake vaginas and fake penises. Another first was the catheterized penis.

I guess someone also mentioned the woman who just starts crying on her chair. That was heartbreaking. This country, destroying what could be fixed if common sense didn't disappeared when powerful lobbyists arrive with their bags of cash

I am going to guess that the shooter is not the kid who run, but he will die as a victim.], and that Jake is fine. His lack of communication is there to add to the heaviness in Robby's shoulders that day

I think with bias being such  a prevalent thing, the creator will try to show it in many ways. Someone is depressed and saying bad things, sure you need them on the radar but kids feel that way many times and don't do anything. It might be a quiet, "good" kid no one expected. Langdon is given so much room in people saying he should be able to work, he's fine, etc, etc. If he was plain looking, not being nice to Mel a favorite, would they feel that way? Would they feel that way if someone died he worked on and not wonder if a close person to you, did he miss something? I feel they will challenge so much in this show and it's a good thing.

Edited Monday at 10:47 AM by debraran

[circumvent]

Where is Myrna?

[RunningMarket]

1 hour ago, circumvent said:

Where is Myrna?

Nobody knows. They mention her early on, but then drop that to focus on the incoming patients. Hopefully she's enjoying a (non egg salad) sandwich with Earl somewhere safe.

[Empress1]

51 minutes ago, RunningMarket said:

Nobody knows. They mention her early on, but then drop that to focus on the incoming patients. Hopefully she's enjoying a (non egg salad) sandwich with Earl somewhere safe.

Dana asking a security guard if he’d taken Myrna’s cuffs off and him replying “Hell no. I’m scared of her, she keeps trying to bite me” without breaking stride was one of my favorite moments of the episode.

[circumvent]

1 hour ago, RunningMarket said:

Nobody knows. They mention her early on, but then drop that to focus on the incoming patients. Hopefully she's enjoying a (non egg salad) sandwich with Earl somewhere safe.

Yes, I know but  she was just mentioned once, so I was wondering if this the writers have some surprises or if it is a red herring. 

[Raachel2008]

31 minutes ago, circumvent said:

Yes, I know but  she was just mentioned once, so I was wondering if this the writers have some surprises or if it is a red herring. 

I bet the will show up comforting someone.

[RunningMarket]

1 hour ago, Raachel2008 said:

I bet the will show up comforting someone.

Putting this in spoilers because while it's unconfirmed, it's a theory that's going around.

Spoiler

People are suggesting Myrna takes down the shooter when they arrive at the hospital.

 

[wknt3]

2 hours ago, RunningMarket said:

Putting this in spoilers because while it's unconfirmed, it's a theory that's going around.

  Reveal spoiler

People are suggesting Myrna takes down the shooter when they arrive at the hospital.

 

Ah yes. The old dramatic principle of Chekhov's Myrna...

[MamaMax]

On 3/23/2025 at 5:55 AM, circumvent said:

someone mentioned that the episode was short and I think it is because so much happened, they probably filmed this and next episodes together. 

It was pretty intense and I thought very well done. It showed the confusion but also showed compassion and improvisation, nothing was confused to the viewers. Well written, directed and acted.

The faces of the interns when Robby was instructing them was the right mix. For the first time I thought the acting from "Santos" was on the mark. I could almost see the adrenaline building, just by her facial expression.

The props department seems to be having a lot of fun with the fake vaginas and fake penises. Another first was the catheterized penis.

I guess someone also mentioned the woman who just starts crying on her chair. That was heartbreaking. This country, destroying what could be fixed if common sense didn't disappeared when powerful lobbyists arrive with their bags of cash

I am going to guess that the shooter is not the kid who run, but he will die as a victim.], and that Jake is fine. His lack of communication is there to add to the heaviness in Robby's shoulders that day

 I thought Santos actually looked nervous/concerned for maybe the first time that day. Finally, maybe she doesn't feel totally confident! 

[RunningMarket]

1 hour ago, MamaMax said:

 I thought Santos actually looked nervous/concerned for maybe the first time that day. Finally, maybe she doesn't feel totally confident! 

Agreed. At least to start, she seemed to fumble around more than others.

[debraran]

Interesting article with the creator where he said he was originally excited to do ER reboot, he had SO many videos of Noah young he could use in flash backs over the years he was on but then he got excited about the new show. I wonder though, if it's just him, could he still use some?

He went on to say. 

The core ensemble that made Season 1 compelling will largely return for the second season. Noah Wyle continues to lead as Dr. Michael "Robby" Robinavitch, with key cast members including Isa Briones (Dr. Trinity Santos), Gerran Howell (Dr. Dennis Whitaker), and Taylor Dearden (Dr. Melissa "Mel" King) also reprising their roles. Tracy Ifeachor, Patrick Ball, and Katherine LaNasa are confirmed returning to their respective roles as well.

A notable return will be Shawn Hatosy as Dr. Jack Abbott, who appeared briefly in the pilot before returning during the mass shooting episode. His character's dynamic with the rest of the staff created intriguing tension that writers will likely explore further in Season 2. While no major cast departures have been announced, the time jump may organically introduce new medical professionals to the ensemble, refreshing character dynamics while maintaining the show's established tone.

[SoMuchTV]

27 minutes ago, debraran said:

Interesting article with the creator where he said he was originally excited to do ER reboot, he had SO many videos of Noah young he could use in flash backs over the years he was on but then he got excited about the new show. I wonder though, if it's just him, could he still use some?

He went on to say. 

The core ensemble that made Season 1 compelling will largely return for the second season. Noah Wyle continues to lead as Dr. Michael "Robby" Robinavitch, with key cast members including Isa Briones (Dr. Trinity Santos), Gerran Howell (Dr. Dennis Whitaker), and Taylor Dearden (Dr. Melissa "Mel" King) also reprising their roles. Tracy Ifeachor, Patrick Ball, and Katherine LaNasa are confirmed returning to their respective roles as well.

A notable return will be Shawn Hatosy as Dr. Jack Abbott, who appeared briefly in the pilot before returning during the mass shooting episode. His character's dynamic with the rest of the staff created intriguing tension that writers will likely explore further in Season 2. While no major cast departures have been announced, the time jump may organically introduce new medical professionals to the ensemble, refreshing character dynamics while maintaining the show's established tone.

Interesting info! Can I suggest you post it in the media thread, so it doesn’t get lost in the episode discussion?

[debraran]

41 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:

Interesting info! Can I suggest you post it in the media thread, so it doesn’t get lost in the episode discussion?

I will. I found another one on next season.

Edited Tuesday at 11:01 PM by debraran

[Artsda]

Wow that was an awesome hour of tv, such fast passed and just the combat medicine in the field and slap bands even was epic. 

 

 

[Kel Varnsen]

On 3/20/2025 at 11:33 PM, Raachel2008 said:

The fact that there are such detailed protocols for that kind of “event” shows  fucked up things are and how “common” mass shootings became.

I have watched a lot of hospital shows in my life, but when they were wheeling in those bins full of equipment I was like "holy shit". So good job show, it's nice that a doctor show can still surprise me.

On 3/21/2025 at 11:03 AM, jah1986 said:

I'm glad McKay's ex was able to see what was happening, he struck me as the kind of guy who never really "got" what she does, why she was late, why she was stressed etc. he needed to see that.

That scene really surprised me too. I especially liked that when the kid said he wanted to wait for his mom, dad was like "cool I'll wait with you". I was really expecting some bullshit where he takes the kid home and McKay doesn't find out until after and loses her shit. But instead it just showed that he was a good dad even if he had issues with his ex. So again good job show.

[maddie965]

"You're here!"

I really don't care about the pros and cons of having Langdon there, I just him and his perfect hair on my TV! *shallow*

Edited 15 hours ago by maddie965