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Brian/Biney could’ve killed Harry on the rooftop to complete his 1991 revenge tour but he doesn’t. Does he have his own code?

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Christian Slater’s Harry survives season 1, bummer… 😏

The finale gives us an empathetic look at Biney through the flashbacks. The young actor who plays young Biney has done a great job. Harry is a sh!tty person for taking away Dexter from his only brother. 😥

It comes full circle at the end with a glimpse of Biney at the restaurant’s window, looking in at the Morgans.

Captain Aaron Spencer is one weak villain. He’s willing to throw away his life for revenge on his adulterous, lying ex-wife. 

Wait a minute…

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Based on “Dexter” S01•E02 in 2006, Dexter has been working with Miami Metro's forensics department for “almost 12 years.” This means that Dexter started his career there around 1994/1995, not 1991. 🤔

 

Affogato

Affogato

2 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Brian/Biney could’ve killed Harry on the rooftop to complete his 1991 revenge tour but he doesn’t. Does he have his own code?

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Christian Slater’s Harry survives season 1, bummer… 😏

The finale gives us an empathetic look at Biney through the flashbacks. The young actor who plays young Biney has done a great job. Harry is a sh!tty person for taking away Dexter from his only brother. 😥

It comes full circle at the end with a glimpse of Biney at the restaurant’s window, looking in at the Morgans.

Captain Aaron Spencer is one weak villain. He’s willing to throw away his life for revenge on his adulterous, lying ex-wife. 

Wait a minute…

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Based on “Dexter” S01•E02 in 2006, Dexter has been working with Miami Metro's forensics department for “almost 12 years.” This means that Dexter started his career there around 1994/1995, not 1991. 🤔

 

He’s an intern. 

Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

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15 hours ago, Affogato said:

He’s an intern. 

At the end of the finale episode, Tanya gives him a promotion to a full-time gig.

So there is perhaps a bit of a retcon here, since we are in 1991 still. However...

 

I thought that Dex was supposed to have gone to some actual medical school, rather than just having been pre-med. So maybe he he only works part-time for a bit, or puts a pause on working for Miami Metro to pursue med school.

18 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Brian/Biney could’ve killed Harry on the rooftop to complete his 1991 revenge tour but he doesn’t. Does he have his own code?

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Christian Slater’s Harry survives season 1, bummer… 😏

The finale gives us an empathetic look at Biney through the flashbacks. The young actor who plays young Biney has done a great job. Harry is a sh!tty person for taking away Dexter from his only brother. 😥

It comes full circle at the end with a glimpse of Biney at the restaurant’s window, looking in at the Morgans.

Captain Aaron Spencer is one weak villain. He’s willing to throw away his life for revenge on his adulterous, lying ex-wife. 

Wait a minute…

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Based on “Dexter” S01•E02 in 2006, Dexter has been working with Miami Metro's forensics department for “almost 12 years.” This means that Dexter started his career there around 1994/1995, not 1991. 🤔

 

I think the only way to explain Brian not killing Harry then and there on the rooftop is from the perspective of TPTB being like "Because if he did, it would drastically alter the lore of OG Dexter." I do have a thought that Brian is responsible for Harry's second heart attack. But again, we are left with the question of why Brian disappears from the scene when what he wants so desperately is to reunite with Dexter. Once Harry is dead -- or even with Harry is alive -- there is nothing to stop him from befriending Dexter and/or revealing the truth of who he is.

Brian has every reason to kill Harry -- besides being the source of so much pain for him AND the main obstacle to the reunion with Dexter, Harry now knows that Brian has committed at least 5 murders.

And that Harry would allow Brian to roam free for fear that Harry's sins would find him out makes him pretty despicable. I can buy that they felt like Brian was not salvageable, and that they did what they felt was best at the time by cutting ties. But Harry doesn't even seemingly blink for a second to think "Hey, maybe I could have stopped this by not having separated them" and worse seemingly doesn't try to make amends for having contributed to Brian becoming a serial killer.

I wished we got a better explanation for why Aaron killed Jimmy Powell or was willing to kill his own kid than the implied "his wife cheated on him and tried to pass off Nicky as his kid, so he wanted to get back at her so badly that he was willing to murder, and he wanted to cover his tracks by framing the cartel." Too much of a stretch that it made Aaron turn from a seemingly good cop to a possible two-time child killer. Him going from a very organized killer to slasher villain trying to kill his wife if it hadn't been for Dexter doesn't make sense. There's literally only two people who know he's a killer at this point.

Similar to Brian's nonsensical hesitancy to kill Harry, Aaron easily could have killed both Dexter and Nicky. All he had to do is lock the hatch and they'd both drown, and he'd be free and clear.

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CarpeFelis

CarpeFelis

We’ve gone full-on retcon. Not just the dates, but also: in OG Dexter (which I rewatched recently), in one of Doakes’ confrontations with Dexter, he asked him why he chose to go into blood spatter after being at the top of his med school class. But now apparently he doesn’t even go, just starts working at Miami Metro straight out of college.

I almost expected Deb to run into Brian on that dance floor at the end. If we can retcon Dexter not going to med school we could retcon Deb not remembering Brian.

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leighdear

leighdear

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So did Harry not realize that Dexter killed Aaron, he didn't just save Nicky and Aaron slipped away and is on the run?  He thinks Dex adhered to The Code and has a grip on things?

And please, they cannot hand wave a 17 year-old who hasn't even graduated from High School yet somehow applied, was interviewed, and accepted into any police academy?  Harry's name didn't actually count for anything. 

Just for funsies https://www.miami.gov/Careers-Jobs/City-Jobs/Become-a-Miami-Police-Officer

And these requirements have been in place for decades, so it's not one of those "Well, back in the 80's or 90's, Harry could have pulled strings".  NOPE!  *LOL*

I did buy how Deb & Sofia made up, pretty much how teen girls do things.  

None of them could dance.  At all.  So lame!

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Elizzikra

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Brian/Biney could’ve killed Harry on the rooftop to complete his 1991 revenge tour but he doesn’t. Does he have his own code?

Maybe? But I think for a minute there, Brian understood that coming back into Dexter's life now would be extremely damaging to him. For all his other faults, Brian does love Dexter. Also, I think:

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 that Brian is responsible for Harry's second heart attack. 

I was waiting for him to slip something in Harry's drink or lure him outside and stab him with a syringe...

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Harry is a sh!tty person for taking away Dexter from his only brother. 

Harry has his own faults, but I don't think this is one of them. It could have been done better but I do think the story that we were told is that Brian started out with dark urges which were solidified into something even darker after being locked in the shipping crate full of blood and body parts. Then we see him try to kill baby Deb and on top of having lost one child already, I can see where Doris and Harry were coming from. There was also always the danger that Brian would turn on Dexter and hurt him as well. I think that Harry really believed that Brian was damaged beyond saving but Dexter was not.

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I wished we got a better explanation for why Aaron killed Jimmy Powell 

Me too. I also would have liked to be much clearer on whether Dexter and Deb knew about Harry and Doris's first son Junior. I don't know why that sticks with me so much except that I don't remember it ever being mentioned in the OG and it seems to have not really been necessary to the plot. Harry and Doris could still have adopted Dexter - Harry was clearly pretty attached to him - even if their first child hadn't died. It seems like that was stuck in the plot early on with perhaps the intention of building it into more but then it was just dropped.

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Dexter told him Aaron wouldn’t be harming anyone ever again. The implication was pretty clear.

I think Harry absolutely knows but he can't just drop the search in the police department. He has to at least go through the motions of looking for Aaron.

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And that Harry would allow Brian to roam free for fear that Harry's sins would find him out makes him pretty despicable.

I get the Harry hate but I also think that Harry would have a really hard time knowing that Brian was out there and was going to keep on killing. I don't think a serial killer with Brian's pedigree is just going to stop, even with a seemingly complete grudge list. I wonder if in Season Two we see Harry searching for Brian on his own and perhaps Brian doing away with Harry disguised as a second heart attack? 

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Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

23 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

We’ve gone full-on retcon. Not just the dates, but also: in OG Dexter (which I rewatched recently), in one of Doakes’ confrontations with Dexter, he asked him why he chose to go into blood spatter after being at the top of his med school class. But now apparently he doesn’t even go, just starts working at Miami Metro straight out of college.

I almost expected Deb to run into Brian on that dance floor at the end. If we can retcon Dexter not going to med school we could retcon Deb not remembering Brian.

It's possible that between Dex getting the offer to work for Miami Metro and now, he gets into and goes to med school for a bit. Someone else pointed out that Dex had said he had worked for Miami Metro for 12 years, which is about 3 years off. If he changes course and goes to med school for 3 years, that patches up the discrepancy.

16 hours ago, leighdear said:

So did Harry not realize that Dexter killed Aaron, he didn't just save Nicky and Aaron slipped away and is on the run?  He thinks Dex adhered to The Code and has a grip on things?

And please, they cannot hand wave a 17 year-old who hasn't even graduated from High School yet somehow applied, was interviewed, and accepted into any police academy?  Harry's name didn't actually count for anything. 

Just for funsies https://www.miami.gov/Careers-Jobs/City-Jobs/Become-a-Miami-Police-Officer

And these requirements have been in place for decades, so it's not one of those "Well, back in the 80's or 90's, Harry could have pulled strings".  NOPE!  *LOL*

I did buy how Deb & Sofia made up, pretty much how teen girls do things.  

None of them could dance.  At all.  So lame!

Originally Harry thought Aaron was just in the wind and it was I guess dumb luck that someone helped show the Coast Guard where to find Nicky. He apologized to Dex for not listening to him about Aaron being a killer, and Dex then revealed that he didn't listen to Harry, killed Aaron and rescued Nicky, which made Harry proud of Dex. 

I can buy that the Miami PD would take applications from still-in-high-school potential employees back in the 90s. I think that the level of professionalism called for by police departments has increased, and as your link showed, they currently take apps from 19-year-old HS graduates/GED holders. However, there obviously has not been enough time from her possible inspiration to apply to the police department (meeting kickass women at Miami Metro in the last couple days/seeing Bobby's plight/etc.) for her to apply and for that application to have been processed and for her to get an approval via snail mail. But c'est la vie.

 I thought Deb danced pretty alright for a 17-year-old girl, and of course Dexter's dancing was supposed to be terrible. The worst I can remember seeing since the bit featuring Elaine in Seinfeld.

 

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Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

I get the Harry hate but I also think that Harry would have a really hard time knowing that Brian was out there and was going to keep on killing. I don't think a serial killer with Brian's pedigree is just going to stop, even with a seemingly complete grudge list. I wonder if in Season Two we see Harry searching for Brian on his own and perhaps Brian doing away with Harry disguised as a second heart attack? 

The thing of it is, I can almost buy why he didn't come clean to LaGuerta about his suspicions about Brian initially (it was unconfirmed, he was in possible disbelief, he wanted to see if he could help Brian or those sorts of things.)

But when Brian tells him, "I murdered five people and I really am not happy about people who kept me from Dexter," it just has to occur to him

a) Brian's 100 percent beyond redemption

b) Brian should be brought to justice for those five murders

c) if he's not stopped, Brian's likely to murder more people, since Brian probably has the same urges as Dexter but no restraint or code

d) Brian might try to murder him specifically both because Harry is an obstacle to his reunion with Dexter and because Harry knows about his murder spree

e) Brian might murder Deb

f) Brian might undo all the work he's done to keep Dexter on task, or might even snap and murder Dexter.

If there's a Season 2, they will have to explain how/why Harry doesn't immediately come clean about Brian Moser being the culprit behind the five murders, or if he quietly tries to find Brian on his own, why he goes that route. 

I do a lot of fanwanking of plots, but I can't come up with an in-universe explanation that doesn't have Harry being a massive asshole, hypocrite and/or idiot.

The way they have set things up

Harry is very much partially responsible IMO for all the crimes Brian commits between 1991 and the time Dexter finally kills him in 2006. Which is presumably a lot more than the Ice Truck killings and Deb's kidnapping and near-murder.

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Affogato

Affogato

I can see Dexter deciding he might need med school to help with his kills in some way, next season. I don’t know about Deb’s career trajectory. Different states have different ages that people can become police officers. It is possible she applied earlier, when she knew the sports scholarship wouldn’t come through. 
 

i wonder if this will lead into resurrection or if it is its own thing. 
 

guilt stays Harry’s hand, yes he is responsible for the damage Brian will do. 

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Chaos Theory

Chaos Theory

I am not a big fan of prequels especially ones that focus on the main character of the original series.   That being said Original Sin was better then it was worse.    Watching Young Dexter build his code piece by piece as Harry realizes the terrible truth that the boy he left behind in the container  to save Dexter is the one person who can tear the carefully constructed lie he told his son about his life down.   

I understand why Harry never told anyone about Brian.  No good could come of it.   If Brian got caught then there is no way to prevent him from telling Dexter the truth that he wasn't in fact born a killer.  That he was made just like all the others he has and will kill.      Harry thinks he is protecting Dexter and arresting Brian brings the whole thing crashing down.

As for Deb I think it is just hand wave in case there isn't another season and wanting her on the path she ultimately takes thinking it will bring her closer to the secrets Dexter and Harry have.    

SMG really didn't do much but then she is SMG and doesn't need to.

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Chicago Redshirt

Chicago Redshirt

3 hours ago, bilgistic said:

LOL, no.

It's a fair argument that policing still is nowhere near where it should be, that ACAB, that police departments are racist, or what have you. But I think it's beyond reasonable dispute that policing as a whole is more professional than it was in 1991, before Rodney King etc.

3 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

I understand why Harry never told anyone about Brian.  No good could come of it.   If Brian got caught then there is no way to prevent him from telling Dexter the truth that he wasn't in fact born a killer.  That he was made just like all the others he has and will kill.      Harry thinks he is protecting Dexter and arresting Brian brings the whole thing crashing down.

Maybe I'm naive, but if Brian is arrested, it's not that difficult to keep him and Dexter apart. Indeed, it's easier than if he's on the loose because Brian hypothetically can arrange to meet Dexter whenever Brian wants to. Harry can't watch over Dexter 24-7, and Brian can sidle up to Dex at a time of his choosing. 

I also don't think that Dexter knowing the truth (either about his brother existing, or about him having been a normal kid until Harry fucked up and put Laura in danger) doesn't threaten to undo the Code or send Dexter on some spiral. What it does is threaten the way Dexter looks at Harry. 

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Elizzikra

Elizzikra

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SMG really didn't do much but then she is SMG and doesn't need to.

But she is capable of so much more. I really think she was wasted this season and if she returns for the next, I hope they find something good for her to do. 

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I understand why Harry never told anyone about Brian.  No good could come of it. 

I actually find it sort of unbelievable that no one would know, even with Harry having worked to cover the records. There were dozens of cops that went on the search for Laura and the boys and a whole crowd standing there when Harry pulled Dexter out of the crate. They all knew there were two boys, Dexter and Brian. 

Assuming that a police station is the same hotbed of gossip as just about any other office, everyone would have known that Harry and Doris initially took in both boys. Everyone would have eventually heard that they only kept one. It's difficult to believe that no one ever slipped or said anything to Dexter or Deb about Dexter's long lost brother. I can maybe believe that Harry managed to keep his affair with Laura something of a secret (though Bobby knew, and later so did Aaron) and I guess it's possible that not too many people knew Laura was Harry's informant (you would hope that her identity would have been kept tightly held within the department). Still - people talk. 

The more I think about it, the more I find loose ends that I hope will be tied. This is coming back for another season, yes?

Chaos Theory

Chaos Theory

13 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

 

Maybe I'm naive, but if Brian is arrested, it's not that difficult to keep him and Dexter apart. Indeed, it's easier than if he's on the loose because Brian hypothetically can arrange to meet Dexter whenever Brian wants to. Harry can't watch over Dexter 24-7, and Brian can sidle up to Dex at a time of his choosing. 

I also don't think that Dexter knowing the truth (either about his brother existing, or about him having been a normal kid until Harry fucked up and put Laura in danger) doesn't threaten to undo the Code or send Dexter on some spiral. What it does is threaten the way Dexter looks at Harry. 

How Dexter views Harry is essential to The Code.   Dexter finding out that Harry has been lying to him would send Dexter into a spiral we know this because it essential did in the OG series.    Not to mention being able to get to know Brian as a younger man may have changed the man Dexter became later.

And if Brian was arrested all he needed to do was tell the truth and find one honest cop to listen.  Heck Laguarta would have listened to his story.  All he needed to do was tell her about what Harry did way back when and continued to do and it at bare minimum would have ended Harry's career but at worst would put an early spotlight on Dexter.   All Brian had to do was tell the truth and Harry's lie would fall apart.

Elizzikra

Elizzikra

17 minutes ago, Snazzy Daisy said:

Postmortem | Ep. 110 | Code Blues | Dexter: Original Sin

 

I guess that's the whole point of these "behind the scenes" things, but it did look like the cast got along well and had some fun. I hope that's actually the case.

So funny to think about Christian Slater and Patrick Dempsey starting out together 35 years ago. I'm old enough to remember that!

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cmfran

cmfran

A few thoughts after finishing the season:

-Harry was a terrible cop and a terrible father. His portrayal in this season is not at all the way he was portrayed as a hero in the OG run.

-The police chief as the season's big villain was ridiculous. I get that a lot of men do crazy things after a divorce, especially if kids are involved, but come on.

-The B plot with Deb/Gio went nowhere. Total waste of time.

-How does Dexter already have such awesome skills (breaking and entering, hand-to-hand combat, etc.), considering he just started killing? 

Affogato

Affogato

54 minutes ago, cmfran said:

A few thoughts after finishing the season:

-Harry was a terrible cop and a terrible father. His portrayal in this season is not at all the way he was portrayed as a hero in the OG run.

-The police chief as the season's big villain was ridiculous. I get that a lot of men do crazy things after a divorce, especially if kids are involved, but come on.

-The B plot with Deb/Gio went nowhere. Total waste of time.

-How does Dexter already have such awesome skills (breaking and entering, hand-to-hand combat, etc.), considering he just started killing? 

I thought they established Dexter had competitive martial arts experience. I think in this show. It would make sense that would help him feel more in control, safer, and reasonable for a cop’s kid, for self defense. 

the plot with Deb/Gio taught her a lesson, it moved her forward into a more responsible place. Also it was a bonding moment for her and Dexter. There are several this show. 

i rewatched the first couple of seasons. Dex may gave idolized Harry, but he was always a narcissistic asshole, imo. 
 

i think Aaron got in over his head. I don’t think he meant to kill Nicky, but Nicky recognised him. But yeah, I thought it was farfetched. 
 

 

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CarpeFelis

CarpeFelis

52 minutes ago, Affogato said:

i think Aaron got in over his head. I don’t think he meant to kill Nicky, but Nicky recognised him. But yeah, I thought it was farfetched. 

Nicky recognized him, and also his screaming at his ex revealed that at some point he found out Nicky wasn’t actually his and he was enraged enough he apparently didn’t care about him anymore. (Did I miss something or was that incident the only time that came up?)

I suspect Aaron cooked up the whole scheme as a way of killing two birds with one stone - punish his ex and frame the cartel so he could go after them and get himself promoted. What isn’t clear to me is whether he intended all along to kill Nicky, or whether he planned to be the white knight who’d eventually rescue him, but was foiled by Nicky recognizing him and (of course) Dexter.

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