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The View: Week of 2/10/2025


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Monday, Feb. 10 – Jeremiah Brent, Karamo Brown, Antoni Porowski, Tan France and Jonathan Van Ness (“Queer Eye” and “The Fab Five Live!”)

Tuesday, Feb. 11 – Melissa Gilbert (actor, Broadway’s “Still”)

Wednesday, Feb. 12 – Cheri Oteri and Laraine Newman (former cast members, “Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special”)

Thursday, Feb. 13– Monica Barbaro (actor, “A Complete Unknown”)

Friday, Feb. 14 – Yasmin Elhady (cast, “Muslim Matchmaker”)

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Sigh. Alyssa, a private sector engineer has no business looking through anyone’s private information. These kids have no experience in accounting or business management. They are not looking for waste in government agencies. An engineer has no clue what to look for. What these kids are doing is more nefarious.

I bought the NOKbox kit a couple years ago. It is fantastic for organizing all your important papers and documents. I recommend it!

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18 hours ago, falltime said:

Wednesday, Feb. 12 – Cheri Oteri and Laraine Newman (former cast members, “Saturday Night Live 50th Anniversary Special”)

I watched it and it was a huuuuuuuge disappointment. Only focused on the last 20 years, instead of the entire 50!

Dollars to donuts they’ll play a clip of Cheri as Barbara.

1 hour ago, Dimity said:

Defending Musk and his Hitler youth isn't something I expected even from her.   She's gone back to the dark side with a vengeance.

She was always straddling-if the she you’re referring to is Alyssa.

I won’t gloat and say “I told you so” but bitterly feel validated at never liking her or believed she changed.

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5 hours ago, Shrek said:

Yeah I think that's how the crypto coin DOGE was originally pronounced so it sort of makes sense but both are as ridiculous as the other, and as useful but that might be disparaging the coin a little.

Y'all got to keep up with your internet memes.   Here's the wiki for the original doge (for which the coin, and most likely the current organization, was named).  My oldest is in middle school and it's still popular with that crowd (which sums up where we're at as a nation right now).

3 hours ago, Mollywolly555 said:

My husband is an international software engineer who works from home. I hear him talking with some of his co workers who are Indian from India, some of whom are female.  

When he worked in an office about 10 years ago,  there was a diverse staff whom I met and we became friends wth some.  His boss was a white woman, (and a prize winning quilter) his cubicle neighbor was Black, and Agiesh  from Nepal was on the other side, and more.  Plus the usual nerdy white guys.  

There's  no way that young racist has not come in contact with nonwhite people or women working in computers.  

JD Vance is a spineless ***. 

Turd.

Curious now, since I am just an ordinary quilter, but if the quilter is prize winning, can you share the name?  I remember former California Rep. Katie Porter in an interview showing quilts on her wall saying "my mother made these" and it took me longer than a minute to realize that she was talking about Liz Porter of Fons and Porter fame.  I agree about JD Vance.  I wonder what Mrs. Vance thinks of all this.

46 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

Curious now, since I am just an ordinary quilter, but if the quilter is prize winning, can you share the name?  I remember former California Rep. Katie Porter in an interview showing quilts on her wall saying "my mother made these" and it took me longer than a minute to realize that she was talking about Liz Porter of Fons and Porter fame.  I agree about JD Vance.  I wonder what Mrs. Vance thinks of all this.

Whatever he tells her to think probably.

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12 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

She was always straddling-if the she you’re referring to is Alyssa.

Unless she changed her affiliation, she was always a Republican. I believe her straddling is/was in part to get along with the group in order to maintain her dream job. Two hours a day, five times a week, and a 6 figure salary...I'd be straddling too.

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21 hours ago, Dimity said:

Defending Musk and his Hitler youth isn't something I expected even from her.   She's gone back to the dark side with a vengeance.

I've come to believe she never left the dark side. She was just better at hiding it. She says she resigned from his administration after he lost in 2020 because she didn't like his not conceding and him forming the big lie.  But now she is OK with him dismantling our government piece by piece?

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8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Unless she changed her affiliation, she was always a Republican. I believe her straddling is/was in part to get along with the group in order to maintain her dream job. Two hours a day, five times a week, and a 6 figure salary...I'd be straddling too.

yeah, who needs integrity if you can make a lot of money?

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14 hours ago, 2JEWELL said:

yeah, who needs integrity if you can make a lot of money?

Going along to get along (in the political world) is part of life when one is outnumbered in a group. We all saw what they did to MM who had a stronger personality, so if Alyssa isn't as forceful, I'm okay with that. In that instance, it has nothing to do with integrity.

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Sunny's rant against Elon Musk* was disingenuous - Many, if not most, people in government work aren't elected; that's why they have confirmation hearings for those who will be in the greatest positions of power. As for the day-to-day worker bees - There are background and security checks on them prior to employment, so we're not talking about putting McDonald's workers in charge of sensitive information. Also, what does the current situation of South Africa have to do with whatever Musk believes? Perhaps having grown up in an apartheid country, he became more democratically inclined after seeing the disfunction in his home country. There are undoubtedly lots of reasons to be mistrustful of Musk, but Sunny didn't present any that made much sense. 

* I am not a Musk fan, but I think if you're going to have effective criticism, you need to be sure it is accurate and applicable.

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1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

Sunny's rant against Elon Musk* was disingenuous - Many, if not most, people in government work aren't elected; that's why they have confirmation hearings for those who will be in the greatest positions of power. As for the day-to-day worker bees - There are background and security checks on them prior to employment, so we're not talking about putting McDonald's workers in charge of sensitive information. Also, what does the current situation of South Africa have to do with whatever Musk believes? Perhaps having grown up in an apartheid country, he became more democratically inclined after seeing the disfunction in his home country. There are undoubtedly lots of reasons to be mistrustful of Musk, but Sunny didn't present any that made much sense. 

* I am not a Musk fan, but I think if you're going to have effective criticism, you need to be sure it is accurate and applicable.

So now I've had a chance to watch what exactly did Sunny say that was so disingenuous to Musk? Are his companies not receiving government money now or in the past? Has he not aimed directly at the departments that are in the middle of investigating either him or his companies? Has he been confirmed like most people usually are? Can you guarantee that the people he has looking at sensitive personal information are doing the right thing for the right reasons & are qualified to do it and they have all had background checks done? I'm guessing they certainly have not had any checks dine in such a short time.

Which of Sunny's very short reasons to be mistrustful of Musk made no sense exactly? And I'm probably one of Sunny's most critical viewers, I don't particularly like her at all & she does talk crap sometimes but I'm intrigued what you think didn't make much sense.

And I say again, maybe growing up in an apartheid country he liked it & left when it changed too much. Let's not pretend that every white person in South Africa was against apartheid & what it stood for as most weren't & were more than happy for it to continue.

I'm all for checking the books but they have taken a sledgehammer to remove that last annoying piece of eggshell stuck on a boiled egg rather than carefully peeling it off. 

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1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

There are background and security checks on them prior to employment, so we're not talking about putting McDonald's workers in charge of sensitive information.

The boys have not had official background checks. Reporters have dug up enough disturbing facts about them to make it apparent they would not pass official background checks, yet here they are digging around in our private data. 

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8 minutes ago, Shrek said:

And I say again, maybe growing up in an apartheid country he liked it & left when it changed too much. Let's not pretend that every white person in South Africa was against apartheid & what it stood for as most weren't & were more than happy for it to continue.

Unless he's stated that he preferred apartheid, this is just speculation, and it doesn't matter how many other white South Africans might or might not have preferred to keep that system, because he is an individual. If we can have varying preferences and beliefs about how the US is run, why wouldn't we expect that people in other countries also have differing opinions about their countries? 

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21 minutes ago, Haleth said:

The boys have not had official background checks. Reporters have dug up enough disturbing facts about them to make it apparent they would not pass official background checks, yet here they are digging around in our private data. 

I know many people are concerned about this but too  many are brushing this aside as if it's not a big deal.  It is. 

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21 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

Unless he's stated that he preferred apartheid, this is just speculation, and it doesn't matter how many other white South Africans might or might not have preferred to keep that system, because he is an individual. If we can have varying preferences and beliefs about how the US is run, why wouldn't we expect that people in other countries also have differing opinions about their countries? 

I didn't say any such thing about people in other countries not having differing opinions, you're just making up an argument about the least important part of what I wrote even though I said maybe as you seemed to be so adamant that he was against it. I've met plenty of white South Africans who were for it and against it & they certainly can have differing opinions BUT his actions don't show me someone who was against apartheid. 

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4 hours ago, KittyQ said:

Sunny's rant against Elon Musk* was disingenuous - Many, if not most, people in government work aren't elected; that's why they have confirmation hearings for those who will be in the greatest positions of power. As for the day-to-day worker bees - There are background and security checks on them prior to employment, so we're not talking about putting McDonald's workers in charge of sensitive information. Also, what does the current situation of South Africa have to do with whatever Musk believes? Perhaps having grown up in an apartheid country, he became more democratically inclined after seeing the disfunction in his home country. There are undoubtedly lots of reasons to be mistrustful of Musk, but Sunny didn't present any that made much sense. 

* I am not a Musk fan, but I think if you're going to have effective criticism, you need to be sure it is accurate and applicable.

Because Musk was behind the cuts to aid to South Africa.  He also is behind white South Africans now being considered refugees in America.  That is likely what Sunny was trying to reference when she was giving the land ownership statistics,  

Sunny could do better setting up the background for her statements, but she's (or any of the ladies really) are rarely given enough time to do so without being interupted.   

 

 

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It's been nice to have Joy back. Her not being there last week made me realize how easy it was to fast forward through most of the show. I really only stopped when Ana or Sunny were talking (and Star!). They were smart to get Ana there for Thursday; they were really dressed up that day, Sunny in particular looked very nice. The show (Tuesday?) where Sunny was the only one there took about 5 minutes to go through and delete.

I assumed Joy had been out for her play, not because she'd been sick. Glad she's doing well now!

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4 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

But is apartheid really something that should have differing opinions?

 

 

No but it does as do some other things a lot worse do that shouldn't.

I was actually in Kenya on my honeymoon a day or two after the S.A. elections took place & Mandela was first elected, the hotel was mostly full of white South Africans and I had many discussions with them both pre & post the election. The one thing they all shared though was that they were worried/nervous about going home to the "new south Africa" as they called it. I was surprised at how many thought the result was bad for the country & them in particular and were in favour of apartheid, remember this was in 1994. I remember the day because we flew out the day after our wedding & the day that Ayrton Senna died at the San Marino grand prix.

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I can see why men who have mistresses take them out prior to Valentine's Day to a nice restaurant, but only a dope would go to the same place the next night. Unless you live in a tiny town, there must be at least 2 decent restaurants in town. 

I think Whoopi has a pretty stereotypical idea of mistresses. I'll bet that most are not like soap opera vixens out to get money and gifts from a wealthy man, and more like foolishly romantic women who fall for compliments and attention from some regular guy who's looking for some action on the side. 

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25 minutes ago, KittyQ said:

I think Whoopi has a pretty stereotypical idea of mistresses. I'll bet that most are not like soap opera vixens out to get money and gifts from a wealthy man, and more like foolishly romantic women who fall for compliments and attention from some regular guy who's looking for some action on the side. 

And in many, if not most, situations aren't aware they are a mistress.  Men who cheat on their wives don't always let the other woman know she's the other woman.

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On 2/12/2025 at 2:30 AM, Soapy Goddess said:

Going along to get along (in the political world) is part of life when one is outnumbered in a group. We all saw what they did to MM who had a stronger personality, so if Alyssa isn't as forceful, I'm okay with that. In that instance, it has nothing to do with integrity.

I must have missed what they did to MM..I saw what she did to all of us.(before her stint on The View, I actually thought I liked her. Then I got to know her

I agree that she is not as forceful as MM, but she is smarter. That’s where integrity comes in..

And then ,Alyssa ranted about normalizing Kanye. I found that ironic.

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3 hours ago, Haleth said:

And praising Marco Rubio… who just budgeted $400million for vehicles from Tesla. 

According to Politico and NBC, this hasn't happened. Although apparently the Biden administration had an interest in having electric armored vehicles. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/state-department-says-tesla-was-not-awarded-400m-contract-produce-armo-rcna192034

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40 minutes ago, Shrek said:

In fairness they're always interested in & testing new vehicles BUT giving Musk ANY government contracts from here on out looks extremely suspect. Not that that will stop him or his orange boyfriend from anything.

It would be smart to avoid more contracts for companies Musk owns. But that assumes that anyone making these decisions is smart, and not just moving with the shifting winds of opinion, popularity, and politics.

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1 hour ago, KittyQ said:

According to Politico and NBC, this hasn't happened. Although apparently the Biden administration had an interest in having electric armored vehicles. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/state-department-says-tesla-was-not-awarded-400m-contract-produce-armo-rcna192034

It’s in the budget. I didn’t say it had happened. 

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2 hours ago, KittyQ said:

According to Politico and NBC, this hasn't happened. Although apparently the Biden administration had an interest in having electric armored vehicles. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/state-department-says-tesla-was-not-awarded-400m-contract-produce-armo-rcna192034

You are correct, KittyQ, and it's more complicated. According to the NYT, the Biden administration interest in electric armored vehicles was part of the climate change fight. In December, after the election, a planned purchase for Tesla vehicles was made public for 2025. The Cybertruck was not specified in the plan. This week the Tesla name was removed from the document, and the whole plan is now apparently off the table.

Electric vehicles are a step too far for Trump. (That's my interpretation anyway.)

 

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On 2/14/2025 at 4:08 PM, Haleth said:

It’s in the budget. I didn’t say it had happened. 

It's always the ones that play pretend "fact-checker" that are always the most disingenuous and agenda-driven, I find. Reminds me of Alyssa, always a veneer attempting to appear "fair," but in reality she's unserious to the point of ridiculous in her level of bias.

On 2/14/2025 at 11:32 AM, 2JEWELL said:

I must have missed what they did to MM..I saw what she did to all of us.(before her stint on The View, I actually thought I liked her. Then I got to know her

I agree that she is not as forceful as MM, but she is smarter. That’s where integrity comes in..

And then ,Alyssa ranted about normalizing Kanye. I found that ironic.

Bull's-eye on every point.

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