S9.E16: The Truth Will Set You Off

[ZettaK]

Keiarna and Greg work through their issues together; Inc expresses his frustrations to Mia; Karen decides to bow out of Stacey's event after feeling betrayed and Stacey responds accordingly.

First aired on 1/26/2025.

[Baltimore Betty]

Kate Chastain is in the house for Ashley's drag show??? How did that happen?

I went to a fashion show for pet adoption, it was local celebrities, some Ravens players, etc...the dogs were wearing the fashions, it was really a fun night and somehow I left without adopting all of the puppies and kitties.

Mia once again is caught in a lie, she knew G was the father of her little boy, Inc acting like she never told him he was not the father...also, he flew in to BWI?

Karen has main character syndrome, none of that charity is about her so she is out.

Gizelle telling Stacey that she should have made Karen aware of her plans to have her friend supply dresses, Stacey said she has known the designer longer than she knew Karen, Gizelle is acting like a child with that nonsense and adding that she didn't think Stacey was in to charity, wonders aloud why she didn't give G&A any money, honestly I don't know what the money would go to, it has never been explained, has it?

 

 

[Marley]

Mia sucks & is a liar. I'm not interested in watching her fake shit anymore. Dragging her kids thru this on tv is gross. She needs to be off the show next season. Jacqueline too.

[drivethroo]

2 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Gizelle telling Stacey that she should have made Karen aware of her plans to have her friend supply dresses, Stacey said she has known the designer longer than she knew Karen, Gizelle is acting like a child with that nonsense

The subtext of that whole scene was Gizelle & Ashley telling Stacey she needed to:

1. get on code with icing Mia out
2. warning her if she didn't know her place and stay in it, she would also be iced out

Stacey picked up what Gizelle and Ashley put down and responded by

1. filming with Mia
2. telling Mia about Karen talking bad about Wendy, in the hopes of flipping Wendy to their side

If this current main cast is all brought back for Season 10, there will be another cast divide like in seasons 6-8, with GNA & Karen on one side, Stacey/Mia on the other and Wendy/Keiarna having to choose which side is the winning team.

Remember, Karen said early in the season that some of the newer cast members needed an "OG check."

Karen also didn't want Wendy around when she joined the cast in Season 5. Karen is/was faking it, just as she faked the concern about Candiace seasons 6-8 after going to BRAVO to get Candiace fired from the show.

However, with Karen's conviction, IMO she won't be back for Season 10 as a full time cast member, whether she receives jail time or not.

I will agree with Gizelle, Stacey should've asked if the group wanted to participate because some people don't like dogs or are allergic to them or scared of them.  I wanted to take every dog home (especially the little guy who kept trying to get Ashley's attention) but not everyone is a dog person.

I had the scrunch face during this exchange:

Keiarna: I feel like you are dismissive of my feelings.

Greg: I don't dismiss your feelings!

I feel like Greg's screen time this episode shows why he is divorced because he probably treated his wife in the same dismissive way. Greg is just as dismissive to Keiarna as Juan was to Robyn. I think Keiarna is so pretty and I think she is good for the group but as long as she's with this Greg character, she should be a "friend of" the group, not a housewife.

LOL @ production zooming in on Greg's custy feet.

Edited Monday at 04:57 AM by drivethroo

[dancingdreamer]

Stacey, well now. I was so wrong  about  her, she's definitely  no shrinking violet.

I had to look away when she was at the shelter, it breaks  my heart to see little  faces saying , pick me. 

I don't  like Greg, he is, as Gizelle  mentioned,  making  Keiarna dim her light, and that's not right. I don't  see those two lasting,  jmho.

Mia, her lips and breasts  get bigger  each show.

Little Ashley dancing  around, she made me think  of JT on southern  charm. 

I guess they all run away from pooping  dogs next week, that should  be fun..I'm ready  for another  HW show.

[Iguessnot]

I can't judge Greg either way because the whole conflict is this show and his unwillingness to be gossip fodder. Of course there's money and d-list fame, but this RH career is nothing but a cesspool. Of course Gizelle and the others advised Kierna  to dump Greg and wade in their waters.

I liked the spunk Stacey showed. She heard Gizelle's message loud and clear and pushed back on that fealty demand. 

[Chatty Cake]

Kiearna could give up the show and Greg would find something else to be annoyed with. It sounds like he put off proposing until she leaves the show.

Ashley was dressed as a dude but bares her boobs during her act in front of her mom and uncle?  Gross. 

Karen told everyone about the paternity test. Of course Mia is going to retaliate. She’s a dirty, messy lying pig. Karen didn’t need to get mad at Stacey but then I don’t think Mia needed comforting. She has allowed this to play out for her own good. I understand why Stacey is telling everyone what Karen said about Wendy but does Stacey want to be stuck with Mia? Not a great choice to team up with.

[bosawks]

Mia is such an inveterate liar that there is no shock or entertainment value.

Whatever she says is worthless and she has reached the level of boring caricature.  

[amarante]

The ride or die for Karen is not aging well. 

While Mia is so much of a liar that anything she said can’t be trusted, in some ways she actually is much more revealing of herself than Karen has ever been because Mia reveals the essential core of her being. 

Mia is an ex stripper who married an older man for his money and had affairs throughout marriage. She displays herself as a complete mess and doesn’t hide it or put up any pretense that  she is anything but trashy  🤷‍♀️

Karen is a drunk who also married an older man for money and has affairs yet presents an image on the show of being high society well bred while her cast mates evidently knew about the real Karen and for whatever reason chose to let her present this false narrative. 
 

 

Edited Monday at 06:37 PM by amarante

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Ashley was dressed as a dude but bares her boobs during her act in front of her mom and uncle?  Gross. 

And the way they were cheering her on, cringe...I think most parents or uncles would think it would be a great time for a potty break!

Did Ashley tell us she was bi before this episode? So many of these HW's tell us they are bi after a divorce but we rarely ever see evidence of it, (not counting Brandi, that one humps anything with a pulse mostly for show).

Mia and her shadow looked so bad in those onesies, the epitome of tacky and unflattering as was whatshername in the tiny shorts, Lysol that barstool when she leaves and then we have Gizelle, it is good to know she is not wasting money by hiring a stylist but should anyway.

What is the deal with Mia picking up Inc at the airport then moving into the passenger seat, we have seen her do this every pickup. 

I was thinking about Mia and G's financial issues, neither one of them are working other than the show, they are supporting two households and nice apartments are not cheap, they could be spending over $5000 in rent between the two of them, plus food, clothing, cars, etc...and btw, have ever seen G's apartment? I always wonder about how some people afford their lives with no visible means of support.

 

[amarante]

20 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

And the way they were cheering her on, cringe...I think most parents or uncles would think it would be a great time for a potty break!

Did Ashley tell us she was bi before this episode? So many of these HW's tell us they are bi after a divorce but we rarely ever see evidence of it, (not counting Brandi, that one humps anything with a pulse mostly for show).

Mia and her shadow looked so bad in those onesies, the epitome of tacky and unflattering as was whatshername in the tiny shorts, Lysol that barstool when she leaves and then we have Gizelle, it is good to know she is not wasting money by hiring a stylist but should anyway.

What is the deal with Mia picking up Inc at the airport then moving into the passenger seat, we have seen her do this every pickup. 

I was thinking about Mia and G's financial issues, neither one of them are working other than the show, they are supporting two households and nice apartments are not cheap, they could be spending over $5000 in rent between the two of them, plus food, clothing, cars, etc...and btw, have ever seen G's apartment? I always wonder about how some people afford their lives with no visible means of support.

 

I don’t understand drag kings as a culture. Women have always had the ability to wear men’s clothing and since Marlene Dietrich has been viewed as extremely sexually attractive. There are whole categories of mainstream female clothing that are intended to mimic boys or men’s clothing and aesthetics  

Men dressing as women was never mainstream🤷‍♀️

As to economics, the women monetize social media which can bring in quite a lot of money. Almost every post can being n either money or result in a freebie in exchange for the mention. 

Edited Monday at 06:45 PM by amarante

[Keywestclubkid]

Wait how Mia gonna know for “weeks” (we know god damn well she knew longer) tell her sidekick Jaqueline but NOT tell  or forget to mention to the man that she was telling might be the daddy? Like FOR weeks (allegedly) .. Like I’m confused she has talked to that man and saw that man in person in that meantime I’m so confused with this whole storyline 

Edited Monday at 07:36 PM by Keywestclubkid

[Baltimore Betty]

6 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Wait how Mia gonna know for “weeks” (we know god damn well she knew longer) tell her sidekick Jaqueline but NOT tell  or forget to mention to the man that she was telling might be the daddy? Like FOR weeks (allegedly) .. Like I’m confused she has talked to that man and saw that man in person in that meantime I’m so confused with this whole storyline 

Mia is having a hard time keeping up with all her lies...Inc might be going along with some angle Mia wants to put out there. If G is so anti Inc I am surprised he called him and didn't go thru Mia. None of it makes sense.

[Keywestclubkid]

16 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Mia is having a hard time keeping up with all her lies...Inc might be going along with some angle Mia wants to put out there. If G is so anti Inc I am surprised he called him and didn't go thru Mia. None of it makes sense.

This part you know how “unstable” G is allegedly but you’re gonna wait and let him be the one to tell him? It makes absolutely NO sense .. if it was real it would be something you’d tell the person immediately not oh well maybe I’ll get around to telling him ..WHY wasn’t the kid immediately tested in the first place is all I keep asking why were you putting it off STILL??  

 

but instead she tries to play mental gymnastics with turning this around on G like he was in the wrong and was being “sneaky” 

The sneaky part was you fucking this man while you were married and throwing it in your husbands face the kid might not be his 

NOT going and getting that kid tested

 

make it make sense .. she is the WORST

Edited Monday at 07:58 PM by Keywestclubkid

[drivethroo]

Quote

12 hours ago

I can't judge Greg either way because the whole conflict is this show and his unwillingness to be gossip fodder. Of course there's money and d-list fame, but this RH career is nothing but a cesspool. Of course Gizelle and the others advised Kierna  to dump Greg and wade in their waters.

It's not that Greg has an issue with filming and reality show's effects on people's relationships; that's understandable.  It's that you visibly see Keiarna shrinking whenever she talks with him; it's his way or no way at all. As I said above, I need to hear from Greg's first wife why they divorced because I think we are seeing the reason why on our screens.

I think Keiarna would be better served by going back to being a friend of the show. That way, she can hang around the group without having to film with Greg. Same goes for Robyn if she comes back; she needs to be in a friend role only.

13 hours ago, Iguessnot said:

I liked the spunk Stacey showed. She heard Gizelle's message loud and clear and pushed back on that fealty demand. 

I don't think it was "Gizelle's" message, though.  Karen wanted Mia and Jacqueline iced off the show and when Stacey wasn't a soldier for Karen but tried to plead Mia's case, Karen decided Stacey needed to go too.  Gizelle & Ashley were trying to warn Stacey: continue filming with Mia and you'll be sitting on the curb watching Season 10 with Nneka*.

The interesting thing would have been to see how Wendy dealt with Karen and her backstabbery in Season 10 but I dn't think Karen will be a full time housewife for Season 10 (I think BRAVO told Karen to go to rehab or lose her job on the show, her not being at the reunion was fully approved of by BRAVO imo).  If Karen is back, everyone will be on tip toes around her because they wouldn't want to be the trigger to send her back in rehab/jail.

*Nneka is currently pregnant so that's 2 baby storylines RHOP has missed out on.

 

 

[Chatty Cake]

4 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

And the way they were cheering her on, cringe...I think most parents or uncles would think it would be a great time for a potty break!

Did Ashley tell us she was bi before this episode? So many of these HW's tell us they are bi after a divorce but we rarely ever see evidence of it, (not counting Brandi, that one humps anything with a pulse mostly for show).

Mia and her shadow looked so bad in those onesies, the epitome of tacky and unflattering as was whatshername in the tiny shorts, Lysol that barstool when she leaves and then we have Gizelle, it is good to know she is not wasting money by hiring a stylist but should anyway.

What is the deal with Mia picking up Inc at the airport then moving into the passenger seat, we have seen her do this every pickup. 

I was thinking about Mia and G's financial issues, neither one of them are working other than the show, they are supporting two households and nice apartments are not cheap, they could be spending over $5000 in rent between the two of them, plus food, clothing, cars, etc...and btw, have ever seen G's apartment? I always wonder about how some people afford their lives with no visible means of support.

 

I think Ashley has told us she was bisexual before.  But I always thought it was more about her and Michael having a third. 
I think G agreed to the storyline so they would have an income. 

[lilmarysunshine]

Damn, Gizelle is messy. Stacey did not owe Karen a heads up and Ashley just going along with it because now she is a business partner with Gizelle. (She sure should have asked the women if they wanted to do it instead of just assuming, though.)

These women should not equate being on their reality show with “letting their light shine” or some professional accomplishment because it is not. I don’t blame Greg because to me that would never be worth the money. I would never sell my privacy and invite that kind of scrutiny into my life just for a RH salary. I would rather work. (In fact, I think you can make the argument that Wendy’s professional credentials have taken a hit being on it.)

[TV Glotzer]

“…or something you may have did.”

Those four degrees didn’t do much for your grammar, Osefo. 

[lilmarysunshine]

And furthermore … lol … to frame it like he is just controlling because he does not want to be on a reality show? Bitch, please. The track record for RH marriages that ended after appearing on the show is terrible! I don’t know these newbies. Maybe he is controlling. But he is RIGHT to be hesitant. It is the famewhores (Slade, Luis) you gotta worry about more.

divorces: Luann (times 2), Ramona, Dorinda (long-term breakup), Betheny, Teresa, Tamra, Vicki, Jeana, Alexis, Kelly Dodd, Nene, Phaedra, Cynthia (times 2), Porsha, Kenya, Lisa H., Alexia, Ashley, Monique, Kyle, Dorit, Adrienne, Mia

I know I am missing some. 

Edited Yest. at 12:37 AM by lilmarysunshine

[ZettaK]

8 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

And furthermore … lol … to frame it like he is just controlling because he does not want to be on a reality show? Bitch, please. The track record for RH marriages that ended after appearing on the show is terrible! I don’t know these newbies. Maybe he is controlling. But he is RIGHT to be hesitant. It is the famewhores (Slade, Luis) you gotta worry about more.

divorces: Luann (times 2), Ramona, Dorinda (long-term breakup), Betheny, Teresa, Tamra, Vicki, Jeana, Alexis, Kelly Dodd, Nene, Phaedra, Cynthia (times 2), Porsha, Kenya, Lisa H., Alexia, Ashley, Monique, Kyle, Dorit, Adrienne, Mia

I know I am missing some. 

Porsha Williams twice (she is divorcing her latest husband), Kim Zolciak (in the process of divorce), Adriana DeMoura, Meghan King Edwards, Shannon Beador, Marisol Patton, Joanna Kruppa, Gina Kirschenheiter, Braunwyn Windham-Burke, Lynn Curtin, DeShawn Snow, Lisa Wu, Drew Sidora, Eva Marcille.

I have to check the other franchises. There are more women who got divorced.

Edited Yest. at 09:42 AM by ZettaK

[dosodog]

Maybe it would be easier to list who stayed together. 

 

[Salacious Kitty]

Joanna didn't get divorced during her run on Miami. It was afterwards. 

[Stats Queen]

14 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Porsha Williams twice (she is divorcing her latest husband), Kim Zolciak (in the process of divorce), Adriana DeMoura, Meghan King Edwards, Shannon Beador, Marisol Patton, Joanna Kruppa, Gina Kirschenheiter, Braunwyn Windham-Burke, Lynn Curtin, DeShawn Snow, Lisa Wu, Drew Sidora, Eva Marcille.

I have to check the other franchises. There are more women who got divorced.

All 4 of the RH of DC that were married are divorced (but who remembers then anyway?)

[Sweet-tea]

On 1/27/2025 at 1:33 AM, Iguessnot said:

 

I liked the spunk Stacey showed. She heard Gizelle's message loud and clear and pushed back on that fealty demand. 

Me too. Gizelle was snotty, especially the “I didn’t think you were into charities” comment. 

These HW shows are fertile ground for narcissists, but I’d put Karen in the top 5. 

I don’t blame the women for not believing most of what Mia says. She has a loose relationship with the truth. 

On 1/26/2025 at 10:56 PM, drivethroo said:

because he probably treated his wife in the same dismissive way. Greg is just as dismissive to Keiarna as Juan was to Robyn. I think Keiarna is so pretty and I think she is good for the group but as long as she's with this Greg character, she should be a "friend of" the group, not a housewife.

She moved in with him too quickly. 

Ashley is in drag as a man with her breasts minimized, so why would she take off her top and show them? Makes no sense and seems like just a Bravo TV moment. 

Edited 23 hours ago by Sweet-tea

[lasu]

Greg does not think Kierna should have any input into her own name.  That tells me all I need to know on whether or not he is controlling.  Also, he seemed less pissy BEFORE his for-profit business was featured on the show.

ETA: Yeah, there have been a lot of divorces, but for a lot of those men?  Good riddance!

Edited 22 hours ago by lasu
And another thing!

[ZettaK]

9 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Joanna didn't get divorced during her run on Miami. It was afterwards. 

Others didn't either. Like Kim Zolciak, or Braunwyn, and Eva. 

 

5 hours ago, lasu said:

Greg does not think Kierna should have any input into her own name.  That tells me all I need to know on whether or not he is controlling.  Also, he seemed less pissy BEFORE his for-profit business was featured on the show.

ETA: Yeah, there have been a lot of divorces, but for a lot of those men?  Good riddance!

I agree. Greg wants to force Kearna to take his last name, and to be a "proper" housewife. He is in his early 40s, so not old enough to have such outdated ideas. And she is a lot better looking than him. 

Edited 16 hours ago by ZettaK