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Ceindreadh

Ceindreadh

The forum is looking completly different. 

Every page I click into now has a big 'C' at the beginning. 

Emojis are larger than text.  Every post has the posters avatar filling the whole screen which I have to scroll past to get to see what they actually say.

It's happening on both Firefox and Chrome on a laptop, and Safari on a tablet 

It's basically going to be impossible to actually read this site anymore. 

 

 

 

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shapeshifter

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All better! 

Thank you!
Oops. Spoke too soon.
Now getting this when I got to my stream at https://forums.primetimer.com/discover/760/ : 

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And then when I click "Advanced"…:

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But, at least when I then click on "Proceed to forums.primetimer.com (unsafe)," it works.

 

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SoMuchTV

SoMuchTV

Taking a risk & bypassing the ominous warnings to come here and post this. On at least 3 different browsers, I’m getting warnings when trying to access the site. “Invalid certificate”, “site may be unsafe”, that kind of thing. This is about 10:30pm et Saturday. I was on the site maybe 4 hours ago and it was back from the earlier formatting issues. Are you okay?

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AllAstronauts

AllAstronauts

Certificate is valid again, if you accepted the not-secure stuff to browse it will take a bit before your browser validates (whatever) the new cert but if you open the site in another browser or an incognito mode it will be secure. You can check the cert status by clicking that little box next to the start of the site url up top. It will say secure now and if you click that to view the details you'll see a LetsEncrypt cert that will "expire" in March and subsequently be automatically renewed at that date and we'll never speak of this again.

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CM-BlueButterfly

CM-BlueButterfly

I cleared the forum's caches, so it should be back to normal. However, for a reason that has not yet been discovered, the site sometimes has the hiccups when rebuilding. If you encounter any further issues, that's likely why. 
It'll possibly get resolved over time or, if not, I'll have to clear the forum's caches again. 

Again, I'm sorry about it. 

AstridM

AstridM

 

It's happening on my tablet as well. Silk browser 

It says: 

You cannot use forums.primetimer.com right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later. 

Same for me and now I am unable to adjust the font size. It’s stuck on “regular” and when I try to change it to “embiggened” nothing happens. 

AllAstronauts

AllAstronauts

If y'all need an after-action for this stuff: <I'm, hand-waiving away a lot here, just go with it>

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There was HTTP and everyone said this web stuff is fun.

Then someone came along and said "you realize all our comms over the wire are more or less in plain text that anyone can listen in on" so they added an S to the end and came up with HTTPS. When you connect to secure sites your comms are encrypted both ways and no one can snoop <for values of 99.999% excluding NSA and other three-letter and/or international agencies>. They could record all the traffic between you and here, but not much they can do about it.

It took ages for people to get religion and for use to ramp up but then someone said "great, the comms are encrypted, but how the hell do I know you and this site are who you say you are. You could be lying?" so we got security certificates.

We can create these certificates ourselves directly on the server but these are the equivalent of you making your own drivers license as an 18 year old to try to get into a bar. 

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So instead, you contract out with other organizations that "verify" you are you and that you control the actual server and control the actual domain and the domain name is kosher and etc. etc. Then you the site owner receive two bits of cryptology which you add to your site's web server so when you, yes you the user, connect to a website that purports to be secure, your browser checks that these bits of cryptology check out and match x, y, z and so on, so forth. All good, connect away. You can trust all this.

Certificates do expire. Sites move servers, things change, etc., so its built into the system to have these time-limited. When a cert expires, you get you a new one, upload the bits, things carry on as normal. 

Note the site and your comms between you and here REMAIN SECURE even when the certificate is self-signed or expired. Always secure. But can you "trust" that nothing bad has happened?  So... When the browser detects that a certificate has expired or is self-signed it now tells you something is up! And for about the last five years or so they really try to stop you from visiting the site at all to "protect you" from yourself.

So, what happened here?

The certificate expired a few days ago.

The certificate was renewed at the external org that does this stuff. Note this is a paid-for certificate and needs to be manually applied to the server.

Nobody told me this was going on.

Your browsers cache tons of stuff, so as your browsers collectively started to detect the expired certificate, and the underlying services (image hosting, etc.) did the same, stuff started to "break". 

And then at 1230am my time I got pinged :)

Short story short, the site owner got texted and I poked around the server to see where the certs were. No txt back but I noticed a free solution was set up but was never configured or used, and just used that to generate the new certificates, then went to bed :)

The free solution, for those that need closure, is that about 10 years ago some people realized that paying for another org to verify you are who you are and so on was just an un-needed tax on the entire web. All that is needed for kosher certificates is for the person controlling the domain (site name) records and the actual server itself to match up <hand-waiving here again>. So something called LetsEncrypt was born, a free service, that automatically renews everything, hands-off excellence. Verifies domain and server and so on are all correctly, truthfully linked together and issues the certificates directly on the server.

As for the janky site-width and font-size stuff chalk that up to a bad site-cache clear internally sometime over the last 24 hours or more and some javascript was skipped and not cached correctly.

These probs go away with the new tech stack in version 5x of this software which the dev site for the new version of this site goes live... uhhh... whenever the site owner makes a tiny change in an account file so the dev site can go live.

You should be nice to @CM-BlueButterfly, some users will get to play early for test purposes.

Everything is working, verified, width-font buttons too. All down to caching and time on your end now.

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GHScorpiosRule

GHScorpiosRule

2 minutes ago, AllAstronauts said:

So, what happened here?

The certificate expired a few days ago.

 

2 minutes ago, AllAstronauts said:

Everything is working, verified, width-font buttons too. All down to caching and time on your end now.

Thanks! Stupid me should have read your earlier comment about the certificate expiring before posting “me too!”

 

SoMuchTV

SoMuchTV

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Starting in just the last couple hours (I think) the  formatting on my iPhone (SE 2020, iOS is up to date) has become “wonky”. Turning it sideways just makes it wonky in a different way. Basically the headings are skinny and span many rows, and I have to scroll horizontally to get to the actual posts. Help?!
 

UPDATING TO ADD - also wonky on a desktop (Win11, Firefox) but it's not as extreme.  Still things are crammed into much narrower-than-usual columns.

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