S07.E13: Hello, Goodbye

[GHScorpiosRule]

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Brianna works to thwart a treacherous plan that endangers her family. A surprise encounter brings new understanding to Roger's journey in the past. Ian and Rachel take a big step in their relationship.

Edited December 20 by GHScorpiosRule

[Atlanta]

Maybe his dad traveled to a different time or didn't survive the stones?

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IIRC, it's not really explained in the books, but left to the imagination.

 

[AZChristian]

4 minutes ago, Atlanta said:

Maybe his dad traveled to a different time or didn't survive the stones?

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IIRC, it's not really explained in the books, but left to the imagination.

 

Or landed in the Yorkshire Dales and decided to stay there and be a veterinarian.  LOL .

[Atlanta]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

Or landed in the Yorkshire Dales and decided to stay there and be a veterinarian.  LOL .

You're going to have to clue me in on that. Is that actor a veterinarian on a different show?

[Ziggy]

3 hours ago, Atlanta said:

Maybe his dad traveled to a different time or didn't survive the stones?

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IIRC, it's not really explained in the books, but left to the imagination.

 

Ok, Roger and Buck's story in the book is about to get really weird ... if they include everything.

Does anyone know if what happens to Jerry is explained in "A Leaf on the Wind of All Hallows?"  I haven't read anything other than the 9 "Big Books."

[HerkyJerky]

2 hours ago, Atlanta said:

You're going to have to clue me in on that. Is that actor a veterinarian on a different show?

I don’t watch the show, but I assume the joke is about the PBS show “all creatures great and small. “

[GHScorpiosRule]

Since this is the buik thread, no need for spoiler tags when referencing the buiks.

[nodorothyparker]

The show version of this is a bit different in the books. Book Roger also bids Jerry goodbye and tells him he loves him as he goes through. Book Buck asks why he did that, with the answer being that Roger knows he never made it back, that that's all he'll ever have with his dad. There's no wondering if he made it or if his memories might change. But book Roger is really big into predestination in that he believes everything is already laid out to happen as it does. It's been forever and a day since I read "A Leaf on the Wind of All Hallows" but I think that's what that brief black and white flash of Jerry with a little boy was supposed to be. There, Jerry popped back into his own timeline just in time to see the air raid that killed Roger's mother, saved Roger, and then I think we're supposed to think he was killed too.

I'm really at the point I just want the show to wrap up the alternative Bree and Roger timelines and get them back with the main cast. I've enjoyed them more onscreen than I ever did on the page, but they don't really seem to lead anywhere that really matters in the main story and Sophie Skelton is just too weak an actor to carry this when she doesn't have stronger actors to support her and fill up the screen.

I also still don't really buy Ian the Mohawk warrior and Rachel the conveniently situational but otherwise devoutly pacifist Quaker as a couple as much as I might find each of them perfectly fine characters on their own. The entire romance has been so rushed and undeveloped that giving them extended love scenes in a season and series that's rapidly ticking down doesn't really do much for me. 

Nice that Jamie's gotten over his ire at Lord John enough to play house in his house, even if he's choosing to sleep in the same bed Claire shared with Lord John and then complaining about it. But since Fergus and Marsali and their Philadelphia printshop aren't in this version of the story, I guess they have to put him and Claire somewhere.

Edited December 22 by nodorothyparker

[Haleth]

That’s always the conundrum when writing time travel stories- if a character changes something in the past, why don’t his memories change?

Is next week the finale?

Edited December 22 by Haleth

[GHScorpiosRule]

56 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Is next week the finale?

No. There are 16 episodes for this season.

Edited December 22 by GHScorpiosRule

[GHScorpiosRule]

Sigh. Watched last night and what an utter snooze fest. Roberts and whoever is running this couldn’t make it more obvious that they no longer care about this show because they can’t wait to do the stupid ass prequel.

The only thing that made me smile was Jamie’s “God No” when talking about how Dougal, Angus, and Rupert’s advice about what to do on his wedding night was right and to Wee Ian’s question if Claire had been gentle with him.

I thought Lord John had only been tied with rope and not shackled? We saw him cut the rope away. And I didn’t notice the shackles when he was running last week. Yet he had them this week. 

Wait. That was the only other thing I enjoyed-David Berry is so wonderful and I’m really enjoying him “opening” up form his normally stoic persona. And the scenes with Roger and his da and Buck.

I swear I don’t remember the sub plot about Jane and Fanny.

And that wee gomeral (spelling?) that led the farmer and others to them? I wanted tae pin his ears to that thingamajig from season one!

I had to remind myself it’s the 80s, so of COURSE the Garda would insinuate Bree and Rob were having an affair while Roger was “out of town” on business.

Edited Friday at 01:58 PM by GHScorpiosRule

[taanja]

On 12/21/2024 at 5:19 PM, nodorothyparker said:

Nice that Jamie's gotten over his ire at Lord John enough to play house in his house, even if he's choosing to sleep in the same bed Claire shared with Lord John and then complaining about it. But since Fergus and Marsali and their Philadelphia printshop aren't in this version of the story, I guess they have to put him and Claire somewhere.

Right! I am slightly appalled they are living in Lord John's house and sleeping in his bed.

But thank you! As a non-book reader I was wondering what happened to Fergus and family?

So? They are in Philadelphia? HM? weird that they aren't part of this season.

[Cdh20]

12 hours ago, taanja said:

Right! I am slightly appalled they are living in Lord John's house and sleeping in his bed.

But thank you! As a non-book reader I was wondering what happened to Fergus and family?

So? They are in Philadelphia? HM? weird that they aren't part of this season.

I understand Cesar & Lauren were not available for season 7’s schedule but are returning in season 8, so per the show they are running the printshop in North Carolina ( was it Wilmington? ) 

[areca]

I hated Jamie in the books after last week's plot point, and show Jamie can fuck right off too. I didn't hate Claire as much in the books as I'm hating her for going right along with it now though.  Like John fucking Grey pretty much put his neck on the line for the Frasers time and time and time and time and time and lifetime (William's) again, and they know he's grievously injured, running in enemy territory, wanted with capital punishment awaiting him if captured, and they just sort of go on with their lives?  In John's goddamn bed.  And Ian, who's probably the most likely of them all to be the moral conscience, is so wrapped up in Rachel('s...bits) that he's lost as well. Seriously. I hate them all right now.

Edited Wednesday at 07:45 PM by areca

[ch1]

2 hours ago, areca said:

I hated Jamie in the books after last week's plot point, and show Jamie can fuck right off too. I didn't hate Claire as much in the books as I'm hating her for going right along with it now though.  Like John fucking Grey pretty much put his neck on the line for the Frasers time and time and time and time and time and lifetime (William's) again, and they know he's grievously injured, running in enemy territory, wanted with capital punishment awaiting him if captured, and they just sort of go on with their lives?  In John's goddamn bed.  And Ian, who's probably the most likely of them all to be the moral conscience, is so wrapped up in Rachel('s...bits) that he's lost as well. Seriously. I hate them all right now.

I’m right there with you.  By this part of the books I couldn’t care less about the Frasers and was completely in love and invested in LJG.  The show didn’t change that for me either.  The visual of them living in his house just makes me dislike them more. 

[BoldDays]

As I’ve not read the books, can anyone who has advise if Ian still had the Mohawk hairstyle at this point, and if so whether it was explained why? It seems rather odd that he is holding onto that part of his life, particularly now he is married, so I’m wondering if there is an explanation that hasn’t been covered in the show.

[areca]

I always assumed it was because with the Mohawk, he finally and fully became a man.  Not someone's son, nephew, cousin - but Wolf's Brother.

[mythoughtis]

21 hours ago, BoldDays said:

As I’ve not read the books, can anyone who has advise if Ian still had the Mohawk hairstyle at this point, and if so whether it was explained why? It seems rather odd that he is holding onto that part of his life, particularly now he is married, so I’m wondering if there is an explanation that hasn’t been covered in the show.

He became Mohawk when he agreed to live with them. He still feels that he IS Mohawk.  He is considered to be Mohawk by the militia, as he is one of the scouts.