Superman (2025)

[Trini]

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James Gunn’s Superman is scheduled to be released on July 11, 2025. It’s both written and directed by Gunn and is set to be the first feature film in a highly anticipated new shared DC Universe.

Starring [David] Corenswet (Pearl, The Politician) as Superman and Clark Kent, Rachel Brosnahan (The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel) as Lois Lane and Nicholas Hoult (The Great) as Lex Luthor, Superman also features Isabela Merced as Hawkgirl, María Gabriela De Faría as the Engineer, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, Anthony Carrigan as Metamorpho, Edi Gathegi as Mister Terrific, Skyler Gisondo as Jimmy Olsen, Sara Sampaio as Eve Teschmacher and Terence Rosemore as Otis.

 

Edited December 13 by Trini

[BetterButter]

 

[Trini]

Hmm -- they're still hiding the shorts; in official photos, at least:

poster:

 

 

[baldryanr]

 

[Trini]

Press embargo over for Gunn set interview:

'15 Things We Learned From James Gunn on the Set of Superman'

 

[BetterButter]

 

[Spartan Girl]

I swore I wouldn’t let DC sucker me into this…and then they bring in Krypto.

Well it can’t be any worse than Batman vs Superman, right? 

[MadyGirl1987]

1 minute ago, Spartan Girl said:

I swore I wouldn’t let DC sucker me into this…and then they bring in Krypto.

Well it can’t be any worse than Batman vs Superman, right? 

Any movie with such a good boy in it is worth watching if you ask me. I was very happy to see Krypto.

This looks promising! I think this movie will do a great job balancing the lighter aspects of Superman with deeper pathos. Also great to see color back in a Superman film. Snyder really did Superman dirty with his dark gritty grim-dark take. Works for Batman, not for Superman.

 

[DanaK]

49 minutes ago, MadyGirl1987 said:

Snyder really did Superman dirty with his dark gritty grim-dark take. Works for Batman, not for Superman.

I so agree with this. Totally the wrong take on a character like Superman

I won't go to the theater to see this but I look forward to seeing it whenever it gets to streaming or HBO or whatever

 

[tv echo]

I'm still struck by David Corensweet's resemblance to Henry Cavill. It's like Brandon Routh succeeding Christoper Reeve all over again.

I love Krypto.

That's the most unflattering hairstyle for Nathan Fillion since Buffy.

Edited Thursday at 03:30 PM by tv echo

[Trini]

For a "teaser", they kind of showed a lot? "Show all the characters in this" seemed to be a major mandate here. But yes, nice to see Superman in daylight! Not a fan of Gunn, so I'm only cautiously optimistic.

I'm wondering if they put a piece on Corenswet's head for the Clark Kent look, or did they tease his actual hair? In any case, they sold the alterego aspect.

[Fool to cry]

Looking at him as Superman the spit curl now looks like it's the only thing of Clark Kent hair he didn't straighten out when he changed into Superman!

Love that Krypto is the scruffy kind of dog. Those are my favorite.

[Wildcard]

10 hours ago, tv echo said:

I'm still struck by David Corensweet's resemblance to Henry Cavill. It's like Brandon Routh succeeding Christoper Reeve all over again.

I love Krypto.

That's the most unflattering hairstyle for Nathan Fillion since Buffy.

As a big fan of the JLI comics in the 90s - this is a pretty darn accurate haircut for Guy.

[dwmarch]

My Superman lore is a bit out of date, can someone tell me more about the SuperPuppy? The dog obviously has powers but is it from Krypton? They have dogs just like Earth dogs except superpowered? Or was there some accident/incident on Earth that turned a regular dog into SuperDog?

[Spaceman Spiff]

15 hours ago, Trini said:

For a "teaser", they kind of showed a lot? "Show all the characters in this" seemed to be a major mandate here

Which is my only fear for the movie. Too many characters to introduce, so how much are we really getting on Clark/Superman?

Max Lord, Metamorpho, Lex Luthor, Hawkgirl, Kara Zor-El, Mr Terrific, Guy Gardner, the Kents.

It just seems so overloaded.

[baldryanr]

53 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Which is my only fear for the movie. Too many characters to introduce, so how much are we really getting on Clark/Superman?

For better or worse, the X-Men movies showed how you can have a lot of characters but only focus on a select few.

[iarwain]

I think it looks good.  Not only is Krypto a fresh new wrinkle, I've always loved Guy Gardner - by far my favorite Green Lantern, although most people seem to hate him.  Too bad he doesn't have his leather jacket costume though.

I wonder who could have beaten Superman down to that extent?  Surely it's too early for Doomsday?

[baldryanr]

2 hours ago, iarwain said:

I wonder who could have beaten Superman down to that extent?  Surely it's too early for Doomsday?

Well, he is fighting a giant monster in the trailer. 

[iarwain]

26 minutes ago, baldryanr said:

Well, he is fighting a giant monster in the trailer. 

Definitely not Doomsday though.  Who's the guy pushing him through the baseball field at around the 1:59 mark, I wonder?

[baldryanr]

It doesn't have to be Doomsday to lay the smackdown on Superman.  We don't know how powerful this version is - will he be like the Silver Age version who could move a planet with a sneeze, or is he in line with the DCAU version who broke a sweat and could be slowed down by heavy ordinance?

[Danny Franks]

I've not been excited by Superman since I was about nine years old - I loved the Christopher Reeve movies (at least the first couple) as a kid, but as I got older I found the character boring and DC's approach to making movies was terrible (Zack Snyder is a hack).

But all it took was that John Williams score kicking in to make me feel like a kid again. And this teaser really worked. It set the tone of the movie (I hope) as dramatic without being dark, fun without being a comedy.

Yeah, I can see why people worry about the glimpses of so many other DC characters in a Superman movie, but it's just a case of getting the balance right. Except for Krypto, we can have as much Krypto as possible (I think James Gunn must have loved CGI Cosmo in Guardians, and wanted to develop it more).

I like the casting - Brosnahan seems perfect for Lois, Corenswet certainly looks the part as both Clark and Superman, Nicholas Hoult should make a dastardly lex (Huzzah!).

[Trini]

16 hours ago, dwmarch said:

My Superman lore is a bit out of date, can someone tell me more about the SuperPuppy? The dog obviously has powers but is it from Krypton? They have dogs just like Earth dogs except superpowered? Or was there some accident/incident on Earth that turned a regular dog into SuperDog?

His name is Krypto (the Superdog); seeing as how it's comics, he's had several different origins, but the main one is that he's a dog from Krypton and, like Superman, has powers on Earth with its yellow sun. He's been the pet of Superman, and others related to him over the years.

https://www.dc.com/characters/krypto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypto

[arc]

8 hours ago, iarwain said:

I wonder who could have beaten Superman down to that extent?  Surely it's too early for Doomsday?

While Doomsday can Hulk jump, I think Supes getting thrown into the ground like that is probably more from a flying enemy. Or maybe a kaiju. But the lack of follow-up, allowing Krypto to drag Superman home, may mean it was more of a one-off event. Maybe he got hit with a nuke?

[Spaceman Spiff]

5 hours ago, Danny Franks said:

Except for Krypto, we can have as much Krypto as possible (I think James Gunn must have loved CGI Cosmo in Guardians, and wanted to develop it more)

My understanding is that while he was writing the script for Superman, his family adopted a dog, and seeing how the dog was, tearing up his house when they first brought him home, and then finally coming around and being less destructive, decided to add Kypto to the story.

[GHScorpiosRule]

6 hours ago, Danny Franks said:

I've not been excited by Superman since I was about nine years old - I loved the Christopher Reeve movies (at least the first couple) as a kid, but as I got older I found the character boring and DC's approach to making movies was terrible (Zack Snyder is a hack).

Oh so did I. For me The Reeve movies (just the first two) are the ULTIMATE Standard-I don't care what anyone says. he WAS Superman.

I wasn't interested in any other live versions-Cavill's turn was such a disappointment as was Routh's. So it was Timm's animated universe that kept me.

6 hours ago, Danny Franks said:

But all it took was that John Williams score kicking in to make me feel like a kid again. And this teaser really worked. It set the tone of the movie (I hope) as dramatic without being dark, fun without being a comedy.

Then THIS. I won't lie-my heart picked up and started racing. Please Gunn, don't disappoint!

[Tenshinhan]

I really did not like the way Clark Kent appeared in the trailer.  I hope that he is not portrayed as some bumbling idiot.

I also do not like the usage of the John Williams theme, despite how cool it sounded in the trailer.  This film should try and distance itself as much as possible from the old Donner films, in my view, so hearing it is a bit concerning.

I enjoyed the style and tone, Brosnahan as Lois, and Krypto.  I hope that Hoult does well as Luthor.

On 12/19/2024 at 10:28 AM, tv echo said:

That's the most unflattering hairstyle for Nathan Fillion since Buffy.

Agreed.  I don't think that it was absolutely necessary but if they were going to go with that style, then they could have done a better job with the hair piece.

[SeanC]

3 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

Agreed.  I don't think that it was absolutely necessary but if they were going to go with that style, then they could have done a better job with the hair piece.

It's clearly supposed to look goofy (totally comics-accurate).

[iarwain]

48 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

I really did not like the way Clark Kent appeared in the trailer.  I hope that he is not portrayed as some bumbling idiot.

Bumbling, yes.  Idiot, no.  

One of the things I liked about James Gunn's work with the Guardians of the Galaxy is that those movies were always fun, and colorful.  I always noticed the colors, and this Superman world also appears to be very bright and vivid.  

I could see DC rivalling the MCU if this trailer is an accurate representation.

[Tenshinhan]

1 hour ago, SeanC said:

It's clearly supposed to look goofy (totally comics-accurate).

It's a little overdone to me, and doesn't look natural like in the comics.  Maybe it's Nathan Fillion himself that's the problem.  I don't think that hairstyle really works for him.

Also, "comics accurate" doesn't really mean much here, since Guy Gardner has had numerous hairstyles in the books.

1 hour ago, iarwain said:

Bumbling, yes.  Idiot, no.  

And why is he bumbling?  Since when is Clark Kent bumbling?

[iarwain]

1 minute ago, Tenshinhan said:

And why is he bumbling?  Since when is Clark Kent bumbling?

Don't you remember Christopher Reeves' Kent being bumbling?

[SeanC]

55 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

And why is he bumbling?  Since when is Clark Kent bumbling?

That's a very common version of the Clark Kent workplace persona.

[Tenshinhan]

2 hours ago, iarwain said:

Don't you remember Christopher Reeves' Kent being bumbling?

I absolutely do.  And that's the problem.  It seems like Gunn's film is attempting to connect back to the Donner films instead of moving forward on its own.

1 hour ago, SeanC said:

That's a very common version of the Clark Kent workplace persona.

Not in the comic books, it isn't.  Clark wasn't some bumbling nerd.  Reeve brought that persona into the films and some subsequent adaptations felt the need to copy Reeve's interpretation.  

[iarwain]

17 hours ago, Tenshinhan said:

I absolutely do.  And that's the problem.  It seems like Gunn's film is attempting to connect back to the Donner films instead of moving forward on its own.

I don't know, Reeves portrayal of Superman was pretty classic, and consistent with the comic book character IMO.  And it's clear Gunn is taking it further than the Donner films did, bringing in Krypto, Mr. Terrific, Guy Gardner, and Hawkgirl.  Looks like he's building a new DCU to me.  

Anyway, there were a lot of different comic book takes on Superman.  I'm sure there are plenty of bumbling Clark Kent scenes to be found.

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And why is he bumbling?  Since when is Clark Kent bumbling?

In the 2006 All-Star Superman comics, which Gunn has said is a key touchstone, Clark is adorably "bumbling" in calculated ways that typically save civilians from flying train junk or even Lex Luthor from lab accidents, all without ever revealing any super powers.

[baldryanr]

And that is no doubt inspired by Christopher Reeve's portrayal because comics will always incorporate elements of the movies/TV shows. 

If the bar is "the comics, but not influenced by other media" then we're talking stuff from decades ago. 

[tv echo]

Also don't forget George Reeves' Superman from the 1950's (before my time)...

(JoBlo Superheroes)

[MissAlmond]

2 hours ago, tv echo said:

Also don't forget George Reeves' Superman from the 1950's (before my time)...

(JoBlo Superheroes)

I know nothing of the Superman comics. But reruns of The Adventures of Superman aired consistently during my childhood, so I have some familiarity with George Reeves' portrayal of Clark Kent/Superman. His Clark Kent wasn't a bumbling nerd; he was a serious reporter and also an amiable, easy going work colleague. As the clip shows, this Clark was invited to and went to parties!  I don't remember if Phyllis Coates/Noel Neill's Lois Lane had a romantic interest in Superman the way Margot Kidder's did.

Frankly, IMO, if Christopher Reeves had portrayed Clark Kent the same, I don't even see Kidder's Lois being that intrigued romantically with Superman. She would have been working besides, and attending gatherings with, a competent, hardworking, affable, good looking, SINGLE, Clark Kent who was right there. LOL. 

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[GHScorpiosRule]

1 hour ago, MissAlmond said:

  I don't remember if Phyllis Coates/Noel Neill's Lois Lane had a romantic interest in Superman the way Margot Kidder's did.

She did. There was one episode where she had a dream where the special prosecutor was dirty and Supes gave her a diamond ring by crushing the raw diamond and and making it a ring. I can’t remember all episodes, but most had her admiring him.

I think Reeve went with the bumbling Clark around Lois and others to differentiate between Clark and Supes. And his revelation was masterful. Routh tried to do the same as a homage to Reeve, but failed. Let’s see how this one does.

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[MissAlmond]

2 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

She did. There was one episode where she had a dream where the special prosecutor was dirty and Supes gave her a diamond ring by crushing the raw diamond and and making it a ring. I can’t remember all episodes, but most had her admiring him.

I think Reeve went with the bumbling Clark around Lois and others to differentiate between Clark and Supes. And his revelation was masterful. Routh tried to do the same as a homage to Reeve, but failed. Let’s see how this one does.

Ah, thank you. Come to think of it, I probably remember more of the show overall than individual episodes.

But yeah, Christopher Reeve is Superman to me. I don't compare the rest because, for me, they don't come anywhere close.  Maybe this new guy will.