S9.E10: Love in the Fast Lane

[ZettaK]

Gizelle joins Ashley in her quest to find new love; Karen and Ray address the work needed to repair their institution; TJ confronts Stacey about the state of their relationship; Wendy braces for a tough conversation with her mother.

First aired on 12/8/2024.

[Baltimore Betty]

Gizelle should know that you have to be left a minimal amount in a will from a parent otherwise it can be contested, she needs a lawyer.

TJ and Stacy, I just can't. He is not wacky and there are no zany antics happening around him. Did he make a frozen pizza?

[dancingdreamer]

What the heck was Wendy wearing,  when she met up with her mother. The top looked like the Michelin man. It didn't  suit her at all.

I like Josh with Ashley, he seems  very down to earth, poor guy already had to go through  cancer.

I don't  remember  his name, but I liked the guy Gizelle got along with( great smile)

Mia's children  sure love Gorden. Especially  his daughter. 

I think TJ is very strange, I see a ton of red flags. What was that fluorescent liquid  they were drinking. 

[drivethroo]

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

izelle should know that you have to be left a minimal amount in a will from a parent otherwise it can be contested, she needs a lawyer.

Gizelle's father was married so legally everything should be going to his wife unless her father specified it in his will.

Having said that, if a will was produced with a signature he could not have done because of the surgery, Gizelle and her siblings should definitely look into that. From the dad's obituary, he had 3 other grandchildren so unless he was balling like that to leave something to 6 grandchildren, I doubt he would've left them anything at all, just to his current wife and 3 children.

The fact a shady will surfaced after he died giving everything to {beneficiary of shady will} tells me the real will probably named Gizelle and her brother and sister as beneficiaries.

All those dudes were too young for Gizelle and Josh is too young for Ashley. I liked him though. 

I feel like Gordon coached those kids to say those things.

Ray had to take off his sunglasses when Karen blamed the accident on her marital woes with Ray, because she's been saying the accident was because of her grief over her parents.

Edited December 9 by drivethroo

[Chatty Cake]

Gizelle needs to spill more details. Can you just throw away a will and force someone to sign a new one?  Gizelles dad’s lawyer should have a copy of his will. 
Wendy looked like she had a fat suit on for her arms. Looked awful. Her mom lost a lot of weight but she still seems miserable. 
Gizelle and Ashley have 20 years between them. They should not be at the same speed dating event. 
Everything that is upsetting Karen happened years ago. She needs to stop. Now she claims she was still mad at Ray for the taxes? Take some accountability Karen!
I like Kiearna but she hasn’t had a chance to shine. 
Mia is gross. 

[Baltimore Betty]

5 hours ago, drivethroo said:

Gizelle's father was married so legally everything should be going to his wife unless her father specified it in his will.

I didn't know he was married and obviously it is not her mother, was she the one that had him sign a will after surgery because Gizelle does not name anyone but refers to that person as "someone." Yes, his estate should go to his wife unless otherwise stated, trusts, etc...I am guessing that Gizelle does not like her stepmother.

And yes it makes me wonder just how much Father Gizelle had in his estate to make it worth a legal battle. If there is a trust the trust stands, that is a separate deal and since this seems to be a second marriage I would think Father G would protect his assets.  Nursing homes are expensive, eldercare is expensive, Gizelle will be lucky if there is anything left.

I wonder if he just did transfer upon death on his investments, then when wife dies the remainder is to be given to the siblings or grandchildren.  

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Wendy looked like she had a fat suit on for her arms.

Horrible! I am surprised her mother didn't say anything to her about that hideous dress.

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Everything that is upsetting Karen happened years ago. She needs to stop. Now she claims she was still mad at Ray for the taxes? Take some accountability Karen!

She is throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks...nothing is sticking, she has a problem with alcohol and truly believes if she says those things enough times they will be true. I do not think the prosecutor, judge or jury will care about her emotional state.  Karen keeps saying that she is going thru this legal battle, it is self-inflicted and she needs to be contrite. And just because she is not drinking on camera I do believe she drinks when they are gone.

And please stop with the Mia and Gordon saga, neither one of them are being honest about the situation and then they drag the kids in to it for the supposed tugging at heart strings, sorry but I don't care.

Ashley and Gizelle speed dating gave too much time to the rando guys, I thought Ashley's guy was nice but most 30 year old guys are not looking for an instant family and Gizelle's guy sort of gave her a hard time about pronouncing his name, oh puleese, you have an unusual name give a person a chance to say correctly!  Also, puleese no more dating on camera with those two.

5 hours ago, dancingdreamer said:

I think TJ is very strange, I see a ton of red flags. What was that fluorescent liquid  they were drinking. 

Punch from High's? It did not look like a color I would want to ingest.  TJ is very strange, his body language, his facial expressions, it is all very strange. He took himself out of the conversation and left Stacey to do her thing then gets mad that she was doing her thing, control is never a good look on anyone. I believe Whoopie Goldberg said it best in Ghost, "Girl, you in trouble."

Yes Stacey you should date other men, TJ saying he would have to look at other options too was rich.

[amarante]

I have my doubts regarding whether Wendy resigned or was asked to resign. 
 

People don’t typically resign tenure track positions and once you have taught the course work for a few years, it is a very easy gig. Yiur teaching assistants are the ones who do the heavy lifting. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Tj would be told to kick rocks if he spoke to me like he was speaking to her in that kitchen and in flashbacks ..

 

no no .. it’s not my responsibility to entertain you while I’m working and yes those parties were work freaking events .. his I’m warning you in one of those flashbacks just irked me so bad 

[drivethroo]

28 minutes ago, amarante said:

I have my doubts regarding whether Wendy resigned or was asked to resign. 
 

People don’t typically resign tenure track positions and once you have taught the course work for a few years, it is a very easy gig. Yiur teaching assistants are the ones who do the heavy lifting. 

IMO Wendy was never on the tenure track because if she was, she never would've done this show and jeopardize that.  I don't think Johns Hopkins told her to resign...they probably didn't care if she did or not.  It was probably a case of her peers being able to create courses and John Hopkins approving those courses but when she tried to create her own courses, Johns Hopkins told her no so she left.

[Keywestclubkid]

And I know it wasn’t.. but why did it look like he was pouring these into wine glasses? 

[Baltimore Betty]

12 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

And I know it wasn’t.. but why did it look like he was pouring these into wine glasses? 

Kinda funny that health nut/gym rat TJ would drink something that is the furthest thing from food found in nature. It was a ghastly color, sort of like anti freeze.

[J80134]

Karen's given multiple reasons for why she was drinking, but there is no justification for choosing to drive after said drinks. No ownership of that poor choice gets Zero respect from me!

Wendy's blow up sleeves are useful for intimidating the arm wrestling competition and keeping her afloat in the pool.

Gizzard needs a silver singles speed dating group

TJ makes my skin crawl. Something evil this way comes...

[TV Glotzer]

Who is Ashley kidding?  No 30-year-old has nearly enough money to pay her bills and keep her satisfied. She is the definition of a gold digger. 
 

Wendy was about to say “J…ohns Hopkins” and quickly reverted to “my university.” You know damn well they told her to keep their name out her damn mouth on this show. I have no doubt she was fired. But at least now she has more time to focus on her one-wick candles. 

[Chatty Cake]

17 minutes ago, TV Glotzer said:

Who is Ashley kidding?  No 30-year-old has nearly enough money to pay her bills and keep her satisfied. She is the definition of a gold digger. 
 

Wendy was about to say “J…ohns Hopkins” and quickly reverted to “my university.” You know damn well they told her to keep their name out her damn mouth on this show. I have no doubt she was fired. But at least now she has more time to focus on her one-wick candles. 

Ashley don’t mind old and ugly if they’re rich but I doubt old rich guys would want to film a speed dating segment on Real Housewives. Hence the younger ambitious dudes that neither Gizelle note Ashley would want.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wendy was fired. She doesn’t seem to have much going on these days,  

[howiveaddict]

I think TJ went to the corner gas station, convenience store and bought those drinks and frozen pizza.  Those drinks looked like what my grandkids pick out when I let them get a drink at the gas station.  Also, why was he storing his silky pink cap, that looked nothing like a chef hat, in the kitchen cabinet?

Wendy's outfit made her look like a linebacker.

Mia: lie, lie, lie   Fast forward!

[For Cereals]

Mia needs to stop using her kids as a storyline. I also buy the Gordon madness story less and less each week.

Maybe Ashley needs to be a sugar teen?  I think she’s aged out of sugar baby.  Nothing was going to happen with that sweet guy.

TJ and Stacey still keeping it corny, but I agree, he has seething anger underneath and he’s just not worth it.  Something is off with him.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

Wasn't that Stacey's crash pad they made pizza in, when TJ opened the cabinet to retrieve the shower cap/chef's toque there was nothing else in the cabinet...I get the impression that they rented that place for filming only, no real cooking goes on in that kitchen or any other room in that house.

Ashley isn't going to date that 30 year old guy seriously so I wonder why that guy wanted to be on camera so badly, is he a model or influencer?

 

[Rlb8031]

14 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wendy was fired. She doesn’t seem to have much going on these days,  

Wendy is teaching again as a guest lecturer at Wesleyan University. Details are in her thread. 

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Wasn't that Stacey's crash pad they made pizza in, when TJ opened the cabinet to retrieve the shower cap/chef's toque there was nothing else in the cabinet...I get the impression that they rented that place for filming only, no real cooking goes on in that kitchen or any other room in that house.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was her actual spot. Stacey didn't strike me as being the biggest domestic goddess when they showed her at home with Arabella. 

Edited December 10 by Rlb8031

[Marley]

That pizza TJ made looked terrible & his whole wacky act was not cute or sweet but creepy. If Stacy isn’t in on it & it’s a fake storyline then she is a huge moron. Where did he get a silk cap too did he just have it on hand lol.

Mia is a liar & needs a new storyline. I feel bad for her kids being a part of this storyline. She basically seemed to have cheated on Gordon their whole marriage so no wonder he is mad. The way she was saying Inc is stepping up too was just her first step on trying to phase out Gordon. Bitch is crazy.

Another excuse from Karen for driving drunk. If she just said I fucked up it would go a long way.

Edited December 10 by Marley

[charliesan]

18 hours ago, J80134 said:

Karen's given multiple reasons for why she was drinking, but there is no justification for choosing to drive after said drinks. No ownership of that poor choice gets Zero respect from me!

All of these housewives drink way too much, I bet it is the minority that DON'T actually drink (only Kandi and maybe Carole come to mind). Many people have different views of what an alcoholic is and isn't, many think that they might have a drinking problem but are not alcoholic per se. To me it doesn't matter, it is their business, but what I can't understand is why are you drinking excessively to the point where you don't know what you're doing? And why don't you pick an uber instead? If you're grieving, blaming your marital status, you're stressed... You know what? Drink it up woman! It's your choice, but, what amount are you drinking that you can't decide to take an uber instead? 

Call me stupid and of course I know I'm wrong, but if she had to drive less than a mile in a deserted street, maybe... Okay? But why choose to drive long distances? Even if it was within the vicinity. 

 

I don't know how it works in the States, but in my country, I have an aunt that is a college professor and some semesters she is given 3 to 4 classes and some semesters she has none, probably like a substitute teacher. She wasn't doing it for the money but because of her affiliation to the university her children were given full scholarships, that's the only reason why she kept at it. I don't know Wendy's situation but it seems from the show that she lives a comfortable life (she can afford her children's education, again, that's what it appears from the show...) and it seems like her being a college professor was more of her mother's dream rather than hers, I see Wendy much more interested in becoming a news anchor or having her own talk show. 

[dancingdreamer]

19 hours ago, TV Glotzer said:

Who is Ashley kidding?  No 30-year-old has nearly enough money to pay her bills and keep her satisfied. She is the definition of a gold digger. 

I don't  think she wanted Josh for longer than a trip to the bedroom. 

[Rlb8031]

3 hours ago, charliesan said:

All of these housewives drink way too much, I bet it is the minority that DON'T actually drink (only Kandi and maybe Carole come to mind). Many people have different views of what an alcoholic is and isn't, many think that they might have a drinking problem but are not alcoholic per se. To me it doesn't matter, it is their business, but what I can't understand is why are you drinking excessively to the point where you don't know what you're doing? And why don't you pick an uber instead? If you're grieving, blaming your marital status, you're stressed... You know what? Drink it up woman! It's your choice, but, what amount are you drinking that you can't decide to take an uber instead? 

Call me stupid and of course I know I'm wrong, but if she had to drive less than a mile in a deserted street, maybe... Okay? But why choose to drive long distances? Even if it was within the vicinity. 

 

I don't know how it works in the States, but in my country, I have an aunt that is a college professor and some semesters she is given 3 to 4 classes and some semesters she has none, probably like a substitute teacher. She wasn't doing it for the money but because of her affiliation to the university her children were given full scholarships, that's the only reason why she kept at it. I don't know Wendy's situation but it seems from the show that she lives a comfortable life (she can afford her children's education, again, that's what it appears from the show...) and it seems like her being a college professor was more of her mother's dream rather than hers, I see Wendy much more interested in becoming a news anchor or having her own talk show. 

I also wonder how much Bravo's tacit approval of folks over-indulging at work functions plays into this. I'm fascinated by the storyline currently playing out on Southern Charm where two cast members (including the dude who was filming while an Adderall addict) have distanced themselves from a fellow cast member who showed up at Bravocon and was "blackout drunk" for the entire weekend. Folks change behaviors when there are consequences, and when the network continues to allow folks to film, participate, and get paid while being under the influence what do they have to worry about? All of these people need this paycheck more than they need anything else, and if a DUI jeopardized that, folks like Karen would not drink and drive. But she and the other Bravolebrities know that the network eats this stuff (including the pearl clutching of folks like Ashley and Gizelle) up.

 

[ZettaK]

Gizelle didn't want to name who was responsible for the fake will, but I assume it was her father's wife and their children. 

Yes Stacey. Please date somebody else. 

Mia finally said that she thinks Inc is not the father of her son after she claimed he was for many episodes without caring if her children heard it. 

I don't care about Bravo's speed dating storylines (we had several of those already), although Josh was cute. 

Does Karen remember she had a vow renewal on the show? Why does she claim she has marital problems she didn't mention in years, as an excuse for her DUI? She was speeding, she crossed a median, and hit three signs before she hit a tree. 

Wendy's dress at the restaurant was very unflattering. 

Gizelle was on Bravo's Watch What Happens Live yesterday, and she was asked about Mia claiming her daughters brought guys to the DR house. She said it would be discussed again on the show, and that Mia is dead to her.

Edited December 11 by ZettaK

[ZettaK]

On 12/8/2024 at 8:26 PM, Baltimore Betty said:

TJ and Stacy, I just can't. He is not wacky and there are no zany antics happening around him. Did he make a frozen pizza?

That was a frozen pizza. 

[StevieRocks]

Dingbat Wendy was being "tolerated' and not "given the respect she deserved"? 🙄 You're a nitwit on a howives show, Dummy. Now go make your idiotic candles no one is going to buy and continue to sound like a loon from Reefer Madness by calling weed 'the devil's lettuce." 🙄 The Johns Hopkins University wants a professor who is publishing papers and books and advancing their field, not a moron tossing her hair like an embarrassing awkward tween.

Edited December 10 by StevieRocks

[ZettaK]

I posted an update about Karen's DUI case on the media thread.

[drivethroo]

21 hours ago, ZettaK said:

Gizelle didn't want to name who was responsible for the fake will, but I assume it was her father's wife and their children.

The new wife didn't have any kids to my knowledge with Gizelle's father.  Only Gizelle and her siblings were named.  That doesn't mean there are no other kids.  I have friends were deliberately excluded from their parent's obituary (by their siblings) and I have loved ones were specifically asked not to be mentioned in the obituary (because they didn't like the familly member who died).

I think the new wife got Gizelle's dad to sign a new will giving her everything and Gizelle and her siblings are trying to stop it.

21 hours ago, ZettaK said:

She said it would be discussed again on the show, and that Mia is dead to her.

Mia may as well pack her white box and quit like Candiace did.

 

[JustbeingReal]

Gizelle's daughters are beautiful. I wonder if the blue outfit Wendy wore was part of her culture or something. All I could do was stare. I agree with everyone that Stacy can do so much better than Tj. The drinks he had were cheap and he probably couldn't afford anything else. I guess Stacy has no one else to film with. Mia's son looks just like her. Gizelle has unique taste in men. Mia seems to be coming for Gizelle. They both seem kind of cutthroat lol. Should be a bloody beef lol. To me Mia was acting weird with K during their conversation.

[Baltimore Betty]

I think it's funny that Gizelle is concerned about Stacey not getting any "D" from TJ while we were subjected to a season of Gizelle acting like that much younger guy from Summer House was her steady boo thang. 

The whole thing about the new will can be contested, in Maryland probate can take a while, a long while sometimes so Father Gizelle's new wife won't get the money any time soon.  I think Gizelle should get a good lawyer that specializes in estate law. 

Wendy will never wear anything uglier or more unflattering that that blue dress with the puffed out sleeves or so I'd like to believe but we haven't seen the reunion looks so I will withhold my opinion.

 

 

[JohnnyU]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:11 PM, J80134 said:

Karen's given multiple reasons for why she was drinking, but there is no justification for choosing to drive after said drinks. No ownership of that poor choice gets Zero respect from me!

Wendy's blow up sleeves are useful for intimidating the arm wrestling competition and keeping her afloat in the pool.

Gizzard needs a silver singles speed dating group

TJ makes my skin crawl. Something evil this way comes...

“Gizzard”

😄😂😂

On 12/9/2024 at 8:38 PM, TV Glotzer said:

Who is Ashley kidding?  No 30-year-old has nearly enough money to pay her bills and keep her satisfied. She is the definition of a gold digger. 
 

Wendy was about to say “J…ohns Hopkins” and quickly reverted to “my university.” You know damn well they told her to keep their name out her damn mouth on this show. I have no doubt she was fired. But at least now she has more time to focus on her one-wick candles. 

I agree with this theory.  I bet the board watched her on the show and were horrified.

[JohnnyU]

Stacey:  RUN GIRL.

TJ seems to have something very wrong with him.  Extremely controlling.  Stacey doesn’t need that crap.  Since they were friends before dating she likely shared things he can use to manipulate and control her.   

I may be over sensitive because of my marriage to a narcissist for 30 years but that’s what I think he is.  He also seems like he may be gay.  Just my opinion.

 

oh, and….

Edited December 15 by JohnnyU
To post a pic of the ugly ass dress Wendy was wearing

[Baltimore Betty]

39 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

Stacey:  RUN GIRL.

TJ seems to have something very wrong with him.  Extremely controlling.  Stacey doesn’t need that crap.  Since they were friends before dating she likely shared things he can use to manipulate and control her.   

I may be over sensitive because of my marriage to a narcissist for 30 years but that’s what I think he is.  He also seems like he may be gay.  Just my opinion.

 

oh, and….

It got five stars???? Maybe they were rating the shipping time.

[Salacious Kitty]

God, that dress is hideous. 

[Chalby]

On 12/9/2024 at 3:11 PM, J80134 said:

TJ makes my skin crawl. Something evil this way comes...

Yes, and my intuition rarely fails me. This guy has too much to say, and clearly wants camera time. He's not there for her.

[Chalby]

On 12/14/2024 at 6:58 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

The whole thing about the new will can be contested, in Maryland probate can take a while, a long while sometimes so Father Gizelle's new wife won't get the money any time soon.  I think Gizelle should get a good lawyer that specializes in estate law. 

I disagree with Gizelle even mentioning her dad's will. If she wants to proceed on her own behalf, fine. But since when do grandparents have to "leave" $ to grandchildren? As someone mentioned, the wife he's had during the last decade plus will inherit something. If there was truly "generational" wealth, then a lawyer would have the details of any trusts. 

After both my parents passed, the money came to the kids. Then if we wanted to share with our kids, that's up to us.

My will is set up for my kids. I would hope they do the same.

[Baltimore Betty]

15 minutes ago, Chalby said:

I disagree with Gizelle even mentioning her dad's will. If she wants to proceed on her own behalf, fine. But since when do grandparents have to "leave" $ to grandchildren? As someone mentioned, the wife he's had during the last decade plus will inherit something. If there was truly "generational" wealth, then a lawyer would have the details of any trusts. 

After both my parents passed, the money came to the kids. Then if we wanted to share with our kids, that's up to us.

My will is set up for my kids. I would hope they do the same.

I agree with you, my parents estate came to the surviving children, (my sister and me), after I go everything is to be split between my two kids...I am guessing that Father Gizelle made mention of a trust for the girls but maybe never went thru with it. 

What could be happening is everything was left to the wife and whatever is left after her death goes to Gizelle? Who knows but Gizelle needs a story line so I guess we will go along with her to an appointment with a lawyer.