Chit-Chat: The Feels

[isalicat]

21 hours ago, Dimity said:

I guess the difference is the ones making disgusting, hateful posts on the Dems side were anonymous people on the Internet.  The ones being absolutely disgusting on the Republicans side were the ones running for office.

Watch MSNBC much? not "anonymous people on the Internet" according to an independent fact checking professional I heard interviewed on NPR a couple of mornings ago. He said that they actually found that MSNBC was *more* biased and full of incorrect info that Fox (Faux) News.

[peacheslatour]

I don't watch cable news.

[anony.miss]

12 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

Anyone notice how the "cackle" has disappeared?

What is there to laugh about? Kamala Harris is a decent human being with a normal sense of humor (unlike Trump, who is apparently amused only by people in pain,  whether he’s mocking a reporter with physical disabilities or grinning while throwing paper towels at hurricane victims).  Harris can see where the country is headed and it’s nothing to laugh about. Pregnant women dying in parking lots due to Trump’s brutal abortion policies. More natural disasters, rising in scope, due to Trump refusing to accept global warming is real and a danger to U.S. citizens. Middle class American jobs going to H1B visa holders, because they're willing to work for far less money, no benefits, and much longer working hours: corporate slave labor, instead of employees being able to buy a house and build a life. Trump tariffs jacking up the price of everything from food to electronics. The GOP putting on the chopping block both Medicaid and ACA/Obamacare (which are the same program, despite GOP attempts to confuse voters). Trump threatening other countries with invasion and expansionist takeovers.  Pick an issue - jobs, trade, health care, social security, education, climate change, Gaza -  Trump is already, before even taking office, destroying stability in multiple areas of domestic and foreign policy.  So yeah, Harris is not laughing these days. Neither am I. Nobody who gives a shit about the world finds any of this funny or amusing.

[bluegirl147]

1 hour ago, Lisa418722 said:

I feel like this is why he won.  He gives people permission to be racist, sexist, anti-semitic, etc., to go after "those" people (whoever "those" people are).  

Is everyone who voted for Trump racist/sexist/anti-Semitic etc? No.  Did the majority of racists/sexists/anti-Semites vote for Trump?  I believe so yes. 

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Is everyone who voted for Trump racist/sexist/anti-Semitic etc? No.  Did the majority of racists/sexists/anti-Semites vote for Trump?  I believe so yes. 

If not for those reasons, then what else is there? The economy? He'll crash it. Peace in Ukraine? If handing it to Putin is peace, I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you. Peace in Gaza, see what I said about Ukraine. What other reason is there? Lower taxes? Not unless you're a billionaire.

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, peacheslatour said:

If not for those reasons, then what else is there?

Owning the libs?  If it's not the economy it's built on hate in some form or another.

[bluegirl147]

Most people don't admit they have any prejudices.  Even while  spouting off bigoted remarks they will deny they are bigots. So all the Trump voters who say it was the economy or the border or taxes if they aren't bigots they are at the very least bigot enablers.  Their votes allow the bigots to continue to engage in systemic bigotry.

[Avaleigh]

1 hour ago, anony.miss said:

What is there to laugh about?

Adding to what you said, when I see people use the word "cackle" to describe the laughter of people like Kamala and Hillary, whether intended or not, it feels like there's a misogynistic vibe in describing it that way. Men are rarely, if ever, described as having cackling laughter aside from the occasional cartoon villain.

It also comes across as a little dehumanizing. The inference is that Kamala is a witch and doesn't laugh the way typical people do. 

[tres bien]

Talking about Trump’s never ending desire to dismantle the ACA and leave millions of people without health insurance, this week it was reported that the Supreme Court will review the ACA’s no cost coverage for some preventative care services including cancer screenings. What the actual hell is the matter with these people 

I other news you can use. Today Jack Smith resigned his position at the DOJ where he’s been employed since 1999 ( he’s 55) It’s almost Twilight Zone ish that good decent respectable people are bullied to resign their jobs. And FFS AG Garland you’re thankfully going to be out of your job in about a week so release the J6 report!

And one more thing from the wonderful world of MAGA. Supposed incoming boarder czar has told house republicans that they need to temper their expectations. They have no means or resources to round up 10 million illegals and send them on their way. Oh the joy of promises made promises kept 😆

 

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, isalicat said:

He said that they actually found that MSNBC was *more* biased and full of incorrect info that Fox (Faux) News.

He can get back to me after MSNBC ends up in court. Until then, yeah, not so much.

Fox News headed for trial, again, over 2020 election fraud claims

[Bastet]

40 minutes ago, Avaleigh said:

Men are rarely, if ever, described as having cackling laughter

Just like the overwhelming majority of people described as "unlikable" are women. 

Strident is another gendered term.  Bossy.  Shrill.  Ambitious somehow becomes a pejorative when it's describing a woman. 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Bastet

[peacheslatour]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

Talking about Trump’s never ending desire to dismantle the ACA and leave millions of people without health insurance, this week it was reported that the Supreme Court will review the ACA’s no cost coverage for some preventative care services including cancer screenings. What the actual hell is the matter with these people 

I other news you can use. Today Jack Smith resigned his position at the DOJ where he’s been employed since 1999 ( he’s 55) It’s almost Twilight Zone ish that good decent respectable people are bullied to resign their jobs. And FFS AG Garland you’re thankfully going to be out of your job in about a week so release the J6 report!

And one more thing from the wonderful world of MAGA. Supposed incoming boarder czar has told house republicans that they need to temper their expectations. They have no means or resources to round up 10 million illegals and send them on their way. Oh the joy of promises made promises kept 😆

 

Fuck Merrick Garland.

[Annber03]

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Fix the economy.  And how do they think he is going to do that?  Is there some magic wand he can wave?  And if there is why wouldn't Biden have already waved it?  Not all but for a big portion of Trump voters they use the economy as an excuse for their vote.   It's there way of making themselves feel better that they are supporting a man who is a racist, convicted of sexual misconduct, convicted of fraud and even after serving one term already is still woefully unqualified for the presidency.  But sure he is going to make eggs cheape.

And this is why the whole "economy" excuse is totall bullshit to me. Becuase, a), they can never actually explain HOW he'll fix our economy ,and b) anytime I hear Trump supporters or the GOP talk, it's never about teh economy. They're always whining about "wokeness" and transgender people and trying to ban LGBTQ+ content in schools and pushing abortion bans.

How all of that is supposed to help fix our economic woes, I'm not sure, but for a party that claims to have won because of the economy ,and a group of supportesr that claimed to vote for said party because of the economy, they sure don't seem to be focusing on that actual topic much, if at all. 

Which is why this...

2 hours ago, Lisa418722 said:

I feel like this is why he won.  He gives people permission to be racist, sexist, anti-semitic, etc., to go after "those" people (whoever "those" people are).  

...is spot on. It's exactly why he won. All this "It was the economy/the Democrats did this and that wrong" analysis people in the media and elsewhere keep throwing out there is just a way to avoid coming out and stating the obvious. Trump has made no secret of who he is and what he stands for at this point, and neither has the GOP as a party. Trump supportesr aren't that deep, there's no hidden motives or theories to understand about him. They voted for Trump and the GOP because they either agree with thier racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia/xenophobia, or at the very least, they sure as hell don't mind that their representatives have those mindsets and want to make policy based off said mindsets. We (general "we?) need to stop giving them cover and trying to make their support for such vile people and beliefs palatable. 

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

Agreed.  Unfortunately too many people want simple solutions to complex problems.  And here we are - a Trump presidency for you and a looming Poilevre government for Canada.  Sometimes I just give up.

Mmhm. I think a lot of people who refused to vote for the Democrats on teh Palestine/Israel issue do not fully understand the history behind all of what's going on and why our country, for better and worse has responded as we have and I think they seem to think that the president can and should just find some kind of easy fix to that war, as if people haven't been trying to find solutions to the battles in that part of the world for decades now. 

I'm no expert on that issue, iether, far from it, so I'm including myself in that analysis. I fully support the Palestinina people and can agree with the critiques some have out there regarding how our country's responded to this. But I also know that resolving this is nowhere near as easy as those who refused to vote for the Democrats over it seem to think it is, and I also know that not voting, or voting for Trump, as a means of protest is going to do absolutely fuck all to solve this issue the way people want it to be solved. 

[bluegirl147]

27 minutes ago, tres bien said:

Talking about Trump’s never ending desire to dismantle the ACA and leave millions of people without health insurance, this week it was reported that the Supreme Court will review the ACA’s no cost coverage for some preventative care services including cancer screenings. What the actual hell is the matter with these people 

 

 

And you know why this lawsuit even started?  Because some religious institutions didn't want their employees to have the AIDS prep covered.  So after winding it's way through appeals courts it is now in front of SCOTUS who could very well take away mammograms and pap smears and colonoscopies among other preventive care.  Tell me again the Republican party is the pro life party.

31 minutes ago, Bastet said:

Just like the majority of people described as "unlikable" are women. 

Strident is another gendered term.  Bossy.  Shrill.  Ambitious somehow becomes a pejorative when it's describing a woman. 

See also difficult.  Hysterical.   And don't even get me started on sex.  Do you ever hear a man described as promiscuous?

32 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Fuck Merrick Garland.

Such a monumental disappointment.

 

[Dimity]

20 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

But I also know that resolving this is nowhere near as easy as those who refused to vote for the Democrats over it seem to think it is, and I also know that not voting, or voting for Trump, as a means of protest is going to do absolutely fuck all to solve this issue the way people want it to be solved. 

The university students  I know who are all in for Palestine are aggravating as hell to me, not because they are wrong, but because they honestly act like this is a new problem and no one else has tried to resolve things until they came along.  They remind me of how every generation figures they are the first ones to discover sex.

[bluegirl147]

5 minutes ago, Dimity said:

The university students  I know who are all in for Palestine are aggravating as hell to me, not because they are wrong, but because they honestly act like this is a new problem and no one else has tried to resolve things until they came along.  They remind me of how every generation figures they are the first ones to discover sex.

I am in no way discounting anyone's feelings about Gaza but for some of these college protesters I kinda feel like this is an issue du jour for them.  Especially the ones who said really uninformed things about Hamas.

[tres bien]

The MSM can just go to fucking hell

In a press conference of sorts yesterday a reporter asked President Biden if was going to pardon himself 

The president basically said for what which I interpreted as fuck off asshole

[bluegirl147]

1 minute ago, tres bien said:

The MSM can just go to fucking hell

In a press conference of sorts yesterday a reporter asked President Biden if was going to pardon himself 

The president basically said for what which I interpreted as fuck off asshole

The only journalism experience i have is my high school newspaper but I could do a better job than a lot of these "journalists"

 

[annzeepark914]

8 minutes ago, tres bien said:

The MSM can just go to fucking hell

In a press conference of sorts yesterday a reporter asked President Biden if was going to pardon himself 

The president basically said for what which I interpreted as fuck off asshole

Wait 'til the wannabe dictator takes office & starts going after these reporters if they don't treat him right. Was that a Fox Entertainment Corp reporter who asked the question? I'm weary already of this felon & he hasn't even been sworn in yet.

[Dimity]

16 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Especially the ones who said really uninformed things about Hamas.

And the ones, and sadly I am related to one of them, who in their zeal to support Palestine handwave away the evils that Hamas has perpetuated and are also turning into Holocaust deniers.  Our Christmas extended family get together was, to put it mildly, fraught, this year.