Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Absolom]

2 hours ago, Affogato said:

 

“We don’t have a Free and Fair ‘Press’ in this Country anymore. We have a Press that writes BAD STORIES, and CHEATS, BIG, ON POLLS,” Trump posted, just minutes after his first rant. “IT IS COMPROMISED AND CORRUPT. SAD!”

He's right, but he's wrong.  The press situation is messed up, but they can only tolerate and cover so much.  He's gone too deep into the dirt to hide it.

[kittykat]

I'm not even Canadian and I'm stressed out awaiting these results.  Good luck neighbors.

[tearknee]

any exit polls or early figures will be interesting

[Lugal]

3 hours ago, Dimity said:

And each and every day it gets worse.

I know this is a minor thing and a moot point because it won't ever happen, but to me (an American) the Canada as 51st state is offensive because I feel that at the very least each province should be able to come in as its own state.

[chitowngirl]

I’ve never worked retail, but always give a “Happy Happy Joy Joy” Or “Happy Winter Solstice” to people. I usually get a smile in return.

[PRgal]

15 minutes ago, Lugal said:

I know this is a minor thing and a moot point because it won't ever happen, but to me (an American) the Canada as 51st state is offensive because I feel that at the very least each province should be able to come in as its own state.

It also erases our own identity as a country.  And trust me, we're different.  Actually, we're very different regionally, even by city.  If you look it up, you'll find that what we call the evening meal varies by region.  Here in Toronto, it's dinner.  My husband is from Ottawa and he often says "supper." 

[tearknee]

I hope we don't have a US sequel but fear it...

[peacheslatour]

3 minutes ago, chitowngirl said:

I’ve never worked retail, but always give a “Happy Happy Joy Joy” Or “Happy Winter Solstice” to people. I usually get a smile in return.

[Annber03]

Regarding the Canadian elections, I think this is the thing I find most upsetting about them - our elections should NOT be this fucking stressful. What I would not give to go back to the days when I could feel comfortable and relaxed about election results and didn't have to worry about my anxiety spiking. 

[luv2lurk]

56 minutes ago, PRgal said:

Considering they close at 7:30 PT out west, I couldn’t for the life of me understand why it’s not 10:30 to 10:30 ET.  The Atlantic and NT zones can do their own thing. 

I just came back from voting (25 minutes round trip - 5 minutes to actually vote and the rest walking to and from. I joked with the clerk that everyone must have voted in the advance days - he just smiled) Anyway it was a paper ballot that will have to be hand counted.

When I was 18 there was a by-election in my riding. The polling station was my house (those were the days!) and my mother was the Returning Officer and she let me take the day off school to be her Deputy Returning Officer. She got paid for the use of the house and each of us got paid for our roles (titles might have changed).  Voting hours were 8am to 8pm

It took us until 10pm until we were able to phone in the results, and then we had to get in the car and drop off the ballot box. So @PRgal I can't imagine how late the results would be if polls closed at 10:30pm!

That being said, I'm not sure what the rules are around counting/releasing early voting mail in ballots - according to Elections Canada results will be available after 7pm ET???

[Dimity]

On a lighter note:

 

[bluegirl147]

47 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

Regarding the Canadian elections, I think this is the thing I find most upsetting about them - our elections should NOT be this fucking stressful. What I would not give to go back to the days when I could feel comfortable and relaxed about election results and didn't have to worry about my anxiety spiking. 

For me it started in 2000. I wasn't sure Al Gore would win but I sure as fuck didn't think SCOTUS would anoint Bush. I thought Kerry had a shot in 2004 but then the damn swift boat ads.  I felt optimistic with both Obama’s election.  2016 not only broke my heart but it damn near broke our country and here we are again.  Please tell me it is going to stop at some point. 

 

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, bluegirl147 said:

Please tell me it is going to stop at some point. 

This just popped up on my FB.  Why is it that no one needs to be told exactly who they are talking about?

[Quof]

1 hour ago, luv2lurk said:

I'm not sure what the rules are around counting/releasing early voting mail in ballots

There was a record turnout for advance polls, and I expect the total voter participation will be a record.  

Trump has managed to do what no Canadian leader has ever done - unite the entire country. 

Elbows up.

Edited Monday at 11:12 PM by Quof

[annzeepark914]

1 hour ago, PRgal said:

It also erases our own identity as a country.  And trust me, we're different.  Actually, we're very different regionally, even by city.  If you look it up, you'll find that what we call the evening meal varies by region.  Here in Toronto, it's dinner.  My husband is from Ottawa and he often says "supper." 

Same here in the US. Different regions &/or states used different words. So...I keep seeing a word used by Canadians here in discussions about politics and have no idea what it means: riding. What is a riding? 🤔

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, annzeepark914 said:

Same here in the US. Different regions &/or states used different words. So...I keep seeing a word used by Canadians here in discussions about politics and have no idea what it means: riding. What is a riding? 🤔

It's our electoral district.  Not sure what the term is in the US. 

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Canada is divided into 343 ridings (also called electoral districts). One representative, or member of Parliament, is elected for each riding.

 

Edited Monday at 11:17 PM by Dimity

[PRgal]

My TV is on CBC News and results from the Atlantic provinces are coming in.  Also, the polls in the Pacific time zone close at 7 their time, not 7:30.  

Edited Monday at 11:20 PM by PRgal

[luv2lurk]

 

11 minutes ago, Quof said:

There was a record turnout for advance polls, and I expect the total voter participation will be a record.  

Trump has managed to do what no Canadian leader has ever done - unite the entire country. 

Elbows up.

Yup Except I think the Election results are about to divide us

Could someone please explain to me what a maple maga is?

 

Edited Monday at 11:23 PM by luv2lurk
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[PRgal]

3 minutes ago, luv2lurk said:

 

Yup Except I think the Election results are about to divide us

Could someone please explain to me what a maple mega is?

 

The Conservative Party’s platform is basically TrumpLite, thus Maple MAGA. 

[luv2lurk]

HMM well the Liberal Party's  Platform includes tariffs on any country that doesn't have a carbon tax (sorry Americans) sounds like Trump to me. 

And nothing wrong with a platform that wants to make your country great - the Liberals pronounce this also

 

 

[kittykat]

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

Regarding the Canadian elections, I think this is the thing I find most upsetting about them - our elections should NOT be this fucking stressful. What I would not give to go back to the days when I could feel comfortable and relaxed about election results and didn't have to worry about my anxiety spiking. 

I mean I was pissed when Bush got reelected in 04 but not this level of horror inducing, mind-numbing anger.  And it's not like post 9/11 early aughts were the damn salad days either, they were stressful.  But not even close to what we experience every day now.

[Annber03]

2 minutes ago, kittykat said:

I mean I was pissed when Bush got reelected in 04 but not this level of horror inducing, mind-numbing anger.  And it's not like post 9/11 early aughts were the damn salad days either, they were stressful.  But not even close to what we experience every day now.

Exactly. I certainly didn't mean to imply that past elections were free of any stress or anxiety in general, of course - politics has an impact on our lives, so everyone's going to be affected and concerned on some level with the results. 

But yeah, the Trumpian effect on politics within this past decade has added a particular kind of stress and anxiety that I don't remember being there before, and I hate it and I want it to go away already. 

[kittykat]

It's not a hard ask.  We only want the economy of 1997 and the euphoric optimism of 2009.  Let's do this!

[luv2lurk]

Anyway, it will be fun to watch my riding which is a draw between the Liberals and NDP. My hope is that if the Liberals win it is a minority government (they won't have the NDP to prop them up this time)

Honestly, I don't see the comparison of the Conservatives to MAGA. But what I do see is the similarity to those who vote Liberal this time and wanted Trudeau out to those who voted for Trump (sort of) Don't they realize that all those behind Carney are the same as those that were behind Trudeau?

Honestly, I don't like either leader

I know this is not a popular opinion in this thread, but I can only hold my tongue for so long, grins

 

Edited Monday at 11:46 PM by luv2lurk

[PRgal]

3 minutes ago, luv2lurk said:

Anyway, it will be fun to watch my riding which is a draw between the Liberals and NDP. My hope is that if the Liberals win it is a minority government (they won't have the NDP to prop them up this time)

Honestly, I don't see the comparison of the Conservatives to MAGA. But what I do see is the similarity to those who vote Liberal this time and wanted Trudeau out to those who voted for Trump (sort of) Don't they realize that all those behind Carney are the same as those that were behind Trudeau?

I know this is not a popular opinion in this thread, but I can only hold my tongue for so long, grins

 

I think there are those who saw Trudeau as sort of a NepoKid because of his name.  Plus Carney has “real” financial experience (though zero political experience).  It’s often the PERSON in question.  PP, on the other hand has zero “real world” experience and was basically elected as, what, a 20 year old kid? 

[luv2lurk]

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2 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I think there are those who saw Trudeau as sort of a NepoKid because of his name.  Plus Carney has “real” financial experience (though zero political experience).  It’s often the PERSON in question.  PP, on the other hand has zero “real world” experience and was basically elected as, what, a 20 year old kid? 

 

I agree. Which is why I think neither of them are qualified to be PM, grins.

Although I did vote for the father of one of them 😁

For me, it came down to who represents change. Who is going to tap the natural resources Canada has and sell them to markets that are prepared to pay for them.    Who is prepared to invest in housing without getting the government involved (that is a bad idea). Who will encourage Canadians to invest in Canada? Who will make sure the carbon tax does not get put back on consumers? I could go on . . .

[Bookworm 1979]

I know there's a few of you who don't want the Liberals to win, but I have to ask how anyone can look at Alberta and think that would be great for the rest of our country. I live in a town that has about four doctors left, and they're destroying our education system. I don't even know if I'll be able to get a flu or Covid vaccine this fall because they're so anti-vax. We have a measles outbreak here, and they're brushing it off.  I will take a Liberal leader any day of the week over the crap that the conservatives are pushing.

On the plus side, if the conservatives win, the rest of Canada won't be able to look down your noses at Alberta anymore. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. It's VERY bad in Alberta right now.

[tres bien]

To mark the 100th day of his second administration Trump is holding a rally in MI this week 

His speech is billed as “a celebration for the most successful and monumental first 100 days of any administration in history”

Talk about delusional but the MAGA believers will eat this up 

[PRgal]

5 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

I know there's a few of you who don't want the Liberals to win, but I have to ask how anyone can look at Alberta and think that would be great for the rest of our country. I live in a town that has about four doctors left, and they're destroying our education system. I don't even know if I'll be able to get a flu or Covid vaccine this fall because they're so anti-vax. We have a measles outbreak here, and they're brushing it off.  I will take a Liberal leader any day of the week over the crap that the conservatives are pushing.

On the plus side, if the conservatives win, the rest of Canada won't be able to look down your noses at Alberta anymore. But I really hope it doesn't come to that. It's VERY bad in Alberta right now.

Ontario has 122 seats, according to Wikipedia and 24 of them are in Toronto proper (i.e. 416 area code).  At the end of the last legislature, 20 of them were Liberal.  Other GTA (Greater Toronto Area) ridings (i.e. the 905) are very red (to Americans:  Our colours the opposite of yours. Blue is Conservative and red = Liberal) as well.  We're probably going to be looking at red, red and more red (with a tinge of blue and orange...like maybe two seats each) in Toronto.  Alberta has 37 seats, total.  The GTA alone can out-Liberal the entire province.  Even if Alberta goes blue.  Based on how polls are going, the Conservatives have a pretty much ZERO chance of getting a majority.  And a minority is pretty dim.   

[annzeepark914]

Hey, neighbors: any predictions on TV? I'm on pins & needles 👀. 🤞🍀🇨🇦

[Bookworm 1979]

6 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

Hey, neighbors: any predictions on TV? I'm on pins & needles 👀. 🤞🍀🇨🇦

Liberals are leading so far.

[Anela]

I was watching the CBC on youtube, before I went to the library.

 

[Bookworm 1979]

I'm watching Steve Boots (Boots on the Ground) on YouTube.  He's more entertaining than the news, and not conservative like Global Edmonton.

[Bookworm 1979]

CBC and CTV just called a win for the Liberals.

[PRgal]

2 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

CBC and CTV just called a win for the Liberals.

Still waiting to see if it’s a majority or another minority.  

[Anela]

7 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Free-access "gift" link to the NY Times "2025 Canada Federal Election Live Results":
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/04/28/world/canada/results-canada-federal-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DU8.DSLn.FmjYBwD_Vlu9&smid=url-share

I'm feeling a bit of schadenfreude but I'm sure Mango Man is going to spin this in a way that doesn't self-indict. 

When we were out, I saw that Fox News were trying to convince people that Canada was voting on whether or not they would become the 51st State. 

[Bookworm 1979]

It sounds like it's going to be a Liberal minority, but that's okay. At least PP isn't going to be our prime minister, and I'm okay with that.

[Dimity]

12 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

It sounds like it's going to be a Liberal minority, but that's okay. At least PP isn't going to be our prime minister, and I'm okay with that.

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:12 AM by Dimity

[ProudMary]

Thank you @shapeshifter for gifting the NYT article to us. I'm posting this graphic from that article, which is updating in real time at the NYT website. I took this screenshot at 11:43 p.m. These were the results at that time.

If I understand correctly, no party is expected to hit the 172 seats to achieve a parliamentary majority, but the Liberals are expected to win more seats than the Conservatives, hence the Liberals get to form the government and choose the Prime Minister (Carney.) Is that correct?

According to the graphic, seats have also been earned by Bloc Quebecois and by the New Democrats. Their colors on the graphic are presented on the left side with the Liberals. Where do those parties fall on the "left" spectrum? Also, do they caucus with the Liberals in the way that Bernie Sanders and Angus King, who are Independents, caucus with the Democrats in the US Senate?

[Dimity]

49 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

If I understand correctly, no party is expected to hit the 172 seats to achieve a parliamentary majority, but the Liberals are expected to win more seats than the Conservatives, hence the Liberals get to form the government and choose the Prime Minister (Carney.) Is that correct?

Yes.  The election hasn't been officially called yet but the projection is for a Liberal minority.

What may also happen (fingers and toes crossed) is that Poilievre, the leader of the Conservative party will lose his riding.  Right now the Liberal candidate is leading by a far bit but there are still a lot of votes to be counted.

[annzeepark914]

I wonder how Donald will spin this? He's already being creative with his reaction to his bad polls. He's so pathetic.

Edited Tuesday at 04:42 AM by annzeepark914

[Dimity]

Just now, annzeepark914 said:

I wonder how Donald will spin this? He's already being creative with his reaction to his bad polls. He's so pathetic.

 

[Annber03]

I was gonna say, wonder if he still wants Canada as a 51st state now :p?

[ProudMary]

49 minutes ago, Dimity said:

What may also happen (fingers and toes crossed) is that Poilievre, the leader of the Conservative party will lose his riding.  Right now the Liberal candidate is leading by a far bit but there are still a lot of votes to be counted.

In what province is Poilievre's riding? If he loses to the Liberal candidate 🤞, the Conservatives would then have to choose a new leader I assume? Is there any reason to think they'd choose a more moderate Conservative to lead them?

[Dimity]

4 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

In what province is Poilievre's riding? If he loses to the Liberal candidate 🤞, the Conservatives would then have to choose a new leader I assume? Is there any reason to think they'd choose a more moderate Conservative to lead them?

His riding is in Ontario.  He's held it for 20 years.  Got elected for the first time at 24.  He just conceded the election to Carney, so he didn't pull a Trump at least, but his strategy of otherwise following the Trump playbook backfired.

If he does lose his riding he could, theoretically, ask another MP to step aside.  But I have a feeling that would only have happened if he'd lost his riding but won the election.

He should step down as leader whether he wins his riding or not but who knows what will happen.

 

[Anela]

Edited.

Edited Tuesday at 07:34 AM by Anela

[Soapy Goddess]

11 hours ago, Annber03 said:

Sure, Christians. You are just so persecuted because somonne dares to say "happy holidays". Gimme a break. 

Where did anyone say they felt persecuted?  I certainly don't. In fact, I'm quite used to it and wind up repeating the same thing back.

[Soapy Goddess]

8 hours ago, Dimity said:

This just popped up on my FB.  Why is it that no one needs to be told exactly who they are talking about?

Because it's a popular meme on all Dem sites. I could pull up a number of opposing memes from a Rep site with a similar characteristic. Sad, huh?

[Anela]

25 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Where did anyone say they felt persecuted?  I certainly don't. In fact, I'm quite used to it and wind up repeating the same thing back.

All of the people who have been going on for at least thirty years, about not being allowed to say "Merry Christmas" anymore. Complaints about holiday cups, too. 

[Soapy Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Anela said:

All of the people who have been going on for at least thirty years, about not being allowed to say "Merry Christmas" anymore. Complaints about holiday cups, too. 

Well, that's on them because as of this moment, we still have free speech 😉