Chit-Chat: The Feels

[Lantern7]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

From Yohoo News 3/31/ 25

 

MAGA celebrates  the end of the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), a federal agency that, among other things, distributed HIV/AIDS medications to children who otherwise don’t have access to them, with a meme that shows Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and top GOP donor Elon Musk dancing with a casket labeled “USAID.”

Caption reads "MAGA 1 Libs 0"

Coffin Dance meme. They disrespected the Coffin Dance meme.

If anything was to happen to these assholes, I bet the fellas from Ghana would fly out to the States and do their thing . . . and not ask for money for transportation. Send those bozos off with the style they don’t deserve.

Edited Yest. at 02:45 AM by Lantern7

[Makai]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

It's a start.

CNN — 

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker has kicked off what is expected to be a marathon speech on the Senate floor to protest actions taken by President Donald Trump’s administration, saying that he will keep going “as long as I am physically able.”

The speech is not a filibuster because Booker is not blocking legislation or a nomination. The Democratic senator’s speech will keep the Senate floor open – and floor staff working as well US Capitol police members detailed to the chamber – for as long as he continues speaking, but lawmakers had concluded voting for the day before he began his remarks.

“I rise with the intention of disrupting the normal business of the United States Senate for as long as I am physically able,” Booker said at the outset of his remarks. “I rise tonight because I believe sincerely that our country is in crisis.” Booker began speaking at 7:00 pm ET.

He’s live streaming it. Right now he’s telling a story about John McCain’s opinion on government inefficiency. It’s actually really interesting. 

[annzeepark914]

31 minutes ago, Makai said:

He’s live streaming it. Right now he’s telling a story about John McCain’s opinion on government inefficiency. It’s actually really interesting. 

Who else is there? Is he doing this just to encourage other Democrats to filibuster (when there's a bill they want passed or debated on, or whatever)?? 

[Salacious Kitty]

[Anela]

[LexieLily]

Translation: We could get him back if we wanted to but we don't want to.

[ProudMary]

Seth Meyers is back from a vacation week. Tonight was the show's first opportunity to counter the cancelation of Amber Ruffin from the White House Correspondents' Dinner. (Video length 3:14)

 

[Soapy Goddess]

17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

But go ahead, walk lock step with this fascist. He's acting like one more and more every day.

I love the fact that people openly protest everything he does with impunity and then call him a fascist. Go to Moscow and stand outside the Kremlin to protest Putin and see what happens. This is why I can't take the word fascist seriously anymore. It's just another synonym for "what I call people who I don't like".

[Soapy Goddess]

17 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

And the last time any major auditing of the federal government happened back during the Clinton years, it took years not weeks to do.

 

17 hours ago, Dimity said:

It you are conducting an audit you hire auditors. Not teenagers with dubious motives and no training in or knowledge of basic financial practice

First of all, they're not teenagers. They are all adults. Approximately 8 men, all businessmen (banker, CEO, etc.) with an average age around 30 years old.

With that many men on the job, they could work faster, especially when it came to cross-referencing fraudulent expenses.

In case anyone is interested, here's a link to the Doge Team: 

https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/meet-the-doge-team/amp/ 

Edited Yest. at 06:48 AM by Soapy Goddess

[Soapy Goddess]

13 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

Or just slapped her. They would have characterized her as crazy. Hysterical.  Can't take care of herself.  But with Kanye he is called a genius.

Totally agree. And now "genius" boy is saying out loud that he never wanted kids! Doesn't matter if they're kids with Kim or not. Can you imagine how North must feel hearing her father say she wasn't wanted 😟😞

[Yeah No]

14 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I love the fact that people openly protest everything he does with impunity and then call him a fascist. Go to Moscow and stand outside the Kremlin to protest Putin and see what happens. This is why I can't take the word fascist seriously anymore. It's just another synonym for "what I call people who I don't like".

Oh, trust me, if he could find a way to punish people that protest him openly like Vlad does he'd do it. But he's found other ways to punish us, like what he's doing right now to destroy the government under the guise of "fixing it". Yeah, he's "fixing it" alright! He's fixing all of us that dared to vote against him and prevented him from stealing the 2020 election, that's what he's doing! 

And contrary to what you think, I don't use the word "fascist" lightly. I have never called ANY American, whether a politician or not (and whether I liked them or not) a "fascist" in my entire life until now! So you can take that very seriously. If his followers don't want us to call him a "fascist" maybe he should stop acting like one! I am sure that those here on the thread that love to make lists could generate one a mile long to support calling him that just based on things he has done even since January of this year. It's freaking unbelievable how long it could get at this point!

[Soapy Goddess]

I hear what you're saying, but the word "fascist" has been thrown around since the Smothers Brothers days. One might say 'well, they're comedians' but we all know better...which is why their show was cancelled.

Politics is really destroying our country. And now we have hired factions who will go out and protest anything, regardless of whether they truly believe what it is they're protesting against. It's to the point where these people are randomly stopping drivers in the streets because of it! The blatant destruction of private property needs to stop. Even if the political arena improves, how do we all come back from the hate and destruction? 

[Soapy Goddess]

P.S. No matter how much I might disagree with your political position, I would NEVER key your car or destroy your personal property.

 

[nokat]

5 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Oh, trust me, if he could find a way to punish people that protest him openly like Vlad does he'd do it. But he's found other ways to punish us, like what he's doing right now to destroy the government under the guise of "fixing it". Yeah, he's "fixing it" alright! He's fixing all of us that dared to vote against him and prevented him from stealing the 2020 election, that's what he's doing! 

And contrary to what you think, I don't use the word "fascist" lightly. I have never called ANY American, whether a politician or not (and whether I liked them or not) a "fascist" in my entire life until now! So you can take that very seriously. If his followers don't want us to call him a "fascist" maybe he should stop acting like one! I am sure that those here on the thread that love to make lists could generate one a mile long to support calling him that just based on things he has done even since January of this year. It's freaking unbelievable how long it could get at this point!

I feel like "The Road to Serfdom" is a good read for some people. We're well on that road, and I don't know how to stop it.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

P.S. No matter how much I might disagree with your political position, I would NEVER key your car or destroy your personal property.

 

Are you serious here?  I could not put up a flag or have a bumper sticker on my car without it causing some kind of damage because of "peaceful" people.

[bluegirl147]

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Politics is really destroying our country.

This I agree with.

4 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And now we have hired factions who will go out and protest anything, regardless of whether they truly believe what it is they're protesting against.

On this I disagree.  The Women's March in DC in 2017 protesters were accused of being paid.  As if people being outraged enough to protest women's rights being in danger of being lost was not plausible.  And since I don't want to be accused of being partisan as abhorrent as I find it the people storming the Capitol on January 6th weren't paid.  They were simply falling their dear leader's directive.

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

And now "genius" boy is saying out loud that he never wanted kids! Doesn't matter if they're kids with Kim or not. Can you imagine how North must feel hearing her father say she wasn't wanted 😟😞

As shitty as that is there are far worse things he has done and said.

5 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

It's just another synonym for "what I call people who I don't like".

You mean the way people on the right call Democrats socialists?

8 hours ago, Anela said:

So what then?  Oops our bad?  WTF is wrong with these people? If this was  happening in a third world country (and it seems we will be that shortly) we would be formulating plans to depose their dictator and install our choice for their new president. 

9 hours ago, Makai said:

Right now he’s telling a story about John McCain’s opinion on government inefficiency.

I'm sure Meghan McCain will be tweeting shortly telling Corey Booker to keep her dad's name out of his mouth.  Only she is allowed to use his name for political reasons.

 

[Cementhead]

Did you all hear that the White House "investigation" into Signalgate is now closed?  Trump says the story is "old and boring now." 

[bluegirl147]

3 minutes ago, Cementhead said:

Did you all hear that the White House "investigation" into Signalgate is now closed?  Trump says the story is "old and boring now." 

If this had happened on Biden's watch the investigation would last years and involve a special counsel and congressional hearings.

[annzeepark914]

19 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

If this had happened on Biden's watch the investigation would last years and involve a special counsel and congressional hearings.

Benghazzziiii...who could ever forget all the hullabaloo the Repubs made over Hillary's emails. AND, she sat through 12 hours of grilling in front of Skeezix Gowdy's committee. I'd love to see that punk Hegseth endure such a grilling for his stupidly revealing Top Secret military war/attack plans just before they took place.

 

 

[Dimity]

I don't use the word fascism lightly. It is exactly what is happening in the US right now. They are openly stealing from the Nazi playbook.

I assume people in a cult don't think they're in a cult. Same with all the obedient little Trumpers who slavishly cheer on every atrocity.

Don't like being called a Nazi? Don't be one.

[bluegirl147]

10 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Don't like being called a Nazi? Don't be one.

You know what they call people who support Nazis?  Nazis.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, Cementhead said:

Did you all hear that the White House "investigation" into Signalgate is now closed?  Trump says the story is "old and boring now." 

What's sad and scary is that with this regime every week there is going to be a new screw up of one kind or another that would merit, at the least, an investigation - but would in normal times also result in someone being demoted, fired or charged with treason. 

So Trump is right this story is "old and boring now" because something even worse is right around the corner.  For four exhausting years.

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, nokat said:

Are you serious here?  I could not put up a flag or have a bumper sticker on my car without it causing some kind of damage because of "peaceful" people.

Right now we're having an election and guess whose signs are being defaced?  Same thing happened last time.  The Conservatives here are like the Republicans in the US, there is a violent element within their group that isn't interested in peaceful protesting, they are loud, crude and vicious.

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

The Conservatives here are like the Republicans in the US, there is a violent element within their group that isn't interested in peaceful protesting, they are loud, crude and vicious.

Yes. Here in the states there is no equivalent on the left to the Proud Boys on the right.  That isn't to say there has not been individuals on the left who has engaged in vandalism or whatever but there is no organized group that is labeled a hate group. 

[Mollywolly555]

On 3/30/2025 at 8:43 AM, Dimity said:

This.  It's already happening of course.  A day does not go by without some MAGA supporter whining that they had no idea they'd be the one who lost their job. 

 

My MAGA sister has been a TSA at a smallish airport for 20 years.

She says she is retiring in June. Actually blamed it on new staff being hired that were non binary. Said she was nervous about seeing a supposedly trans person in restroom the other day.  

This is a woman with a black belt in karate, and 20 fucking years of seeing all kinds of stuff in luggage xrays-- weapons, dildos, drugs, etc.,-- and all types of humanity in and out of the airport. And she says she's scared of a (maybe) trans person nearby?????

I called it BS as soon as I got off the phone with her.  I have learned there's no reasoning with MAGA family. 

Then last night I heard Trump is dismantling the union for TSAs.

Yep, she's not going blame him,  but LGBTQ+  people.

BONKERS!!!!!,  as Heather Cox Richardson would say. 

[Bookworm 1979]

25 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Right now we're having an election and guess whose signs are being defaced?  Same thing happened last time.  The Conservatives here are like the Republicans in the US, there is a violent element within their group that isn't interested in peaceful protesting, they are loud, crude and vicious.

I just saw an article about a conservative candidate in Ontario who's had to drop out of the race over a comment he made about Justin Trudeau deserving the death penalty. And here in Alberta the UCP government voted to cut the funding for snacks for kids undergoing cancer treatments. (Sorry, that may have been mentioned here already.) But yes, please explain to me how conservatives are the party of "family values"!

[lookeyloo]

I did a search on why Republican members of Congress are bowing to Trumps will even against their instincts.  It is not just fear of being primaried.

Here's one article that for me isn't behind a paywall. There are more.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-congress-political-violence

[Dimity]

7 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

And here in Alberta the UCP government voted to cut the funding for snacks for kids undergoing cancer treatments.

I had not heard that.  There is no too low to go for Smith is there?

[Bookworm 1979]

Just now, Dimity said:

I had not heard that.  There is no too low to go for Smith is there?

Nope-she's evil. I hope Albertans vote her out in the next election, but I doubt they will.

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

8 minutes ago, Mollywolly555 said:

She says she is retiring in June. Actually blamed it on new staff being hired that were non binary. Said she was nervous about seeing a supposedly trans person in restroom the other day.  

Oh for the love of God! Let the record show that Donald Trump near a dressing room is far more dangerous than a trans woman in a women's rest room will ever be. 

[Makai]

8 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

P.S. No matter how much I might disagree with your political position, I would NEVER key your car or destroy your personal property.

 

I also wouldn’t key your car or destroy you personal property. I also wouldn’t storm the capital. 

Comparing the extreme reaction on one side to a benign reaction of the other side just undermines any point that is being made. 

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

I love the fact that people openly protest everything he does with impunity and then call him a fascist. Go to Moscow and stand outside the Kremlin to protest Putin and see what happens. This is why I can't take the word fascist seriously anymore. It's just another synonym for "what I call people who I don't like".

A facism expert left the US because he sees facism rising in the country. So, no, it’s not hyperbole. He’s being called a facist because he is expressing facist ideals. Your point only proves that we are not a fully facist country and not that Trump isn’t a facist. It’s not even a particularly strong proof of that, when you remember that people who are in the country 100% legally and have been protesting have been taken into custody.

I am also pretty over being told a reaction is too extreme after spending years being told that Roe would never actually be overturned or that Project 2025 would never happen. 

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

 

I hear what you're saying, but the word "fascist" has been thrown around since the Smothers Brothers days. One might say 'well, they're comedians' but we all know better...which is why their show was cancelled.

 

I do agree with you about words being thrown around in meaningless ways. I mean, look at this word salad. 
 

Quote

“She’s a Marxist. She’s a fascist,” the former president declared last week

Quote

Trump claimed, without a shred of evidence, that Vice President Harris, whom he has dubbed “Comrade Kamala,” “wants this country to go communist.”

 

Edited Yest. at 04:28 PM by Makai

[Dimity]

1 minute ago, Makai said:

I am also pretty over being told a reaction is too extreme after spending years being told that Roe would never actually be overturned or that Project 2025 would never happen. 

 

[annzeepark914]

18 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

I just saw an article about a conservative candidate in Ontario who's had to drop out of the race over a comment he made about Justin Trudeau deserving the death penalty. And here in Alberta the UCP government voted to cut the funding for snacks for kids undergoing cancer treatments. (Sorry, that may have been mentioned here already.) But yes, please explain to me how conservatives are the party of "family values"!

I can always count on Republicans (& now it seems Canadian conservatives as well) to make horrible statements that cause me to actually gasp. What has happened to these people in their lives to make them so nasty, so selfish, and so cruel?  

[Bookworm 1979]

2 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

I can always count on Republicans (& now it seems Canadian conservatives as well) to make horrible statements that cause me to actually gasp. What has happened to these people in their lives to make them so nasty, so selfish, and so cruel?  

Conservatives have been "joking" about killing Justin Trudeau for years. I saw a picture of a doll they made, put his face on it, and then hung it from a noose. They thought it was funny. If my side made that joke about PP, the conservatives would be out for blood. The hypocrisy is strong with that bunch.

[bluegirl147]

14 minutes ago, Bookworm 1979 said:

The hypocrisy is strong with that bunch.

I've long said the R beside Republican's names should be an H for hypocrite.  

22 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

What has happened to these people in their lives to make them so nasty, so selfish, and so cruel?  

For some it's racism or some other form of bigotry. They think only the "others" will suffer or be punished.  For some it's religion.  They believe in the Old Testament not the New Testament that features the Jesus they would call a socialist today. For some it's just plain old fashioned greed. They think if they take something away from someone there will be more for them.  Even if they don't need it they want it.

33 minutes ago, Makai said:

Comparing the extreme reaction on one side to a benign reaction of the other side just undermines any point that is being made. 

Also the right overreacts to everything.  Even things that aren't real.  When the left reacts to the very real bad things happening we are told we are overreacting.  It's gaslighting and I hope people have woken up to that. 

40 minutes ago, Milk-Eyed Mender said:

Oh for the love of God! Let the record show that Donald Trump near a dressing room is far more dangerous than a trans woman in a women's rest room will ever be. 

Donald Trump just breathing is dangerous to everyone everywhere.

1 hour ago, Mollywolly555 said:

Then last night I heard Trump is dismantling the union for TSAs.

Great.  I'm sure they will only hire the best of the best now.

Speaking of airports there was another plane crash and another near miss.  Is Musk doing things to say things are bad and I can make them better?

[Milk-Eyed Mender]

33 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

I did a search on why Republican members of Congress are bowing to Trumps will even against their instincts.  It is not just fear of being primaried.

Here's one article that for me isn't behind a paywall. There are more.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/trump-congress-political-violence

How shocked they must be, electing a leopard that never met a face it wouldn't eat.

[peacheslatour]

Wisconsin is voting today. Here is what Trump had to say about Susan Crawford who is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Trump said of Wisconsin, "I hope you get out and vote for the Republicans. The woman is a radical left lunatic. The woman will be very bad."

Seems like every who is a Democrat is to Trump, a lunatic. When does him saying that of everyone become slander??

[annzeepark914]

10 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Wisconsin is voting today. Here is what Trump had to say about Susan Crawford who is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court.

Trump said of Wisconsin, "I hope you get out and vote for the Republicans. The woman is a radical left lunatic. The woman will be very bad."

Seems like every who is a Democrat is to Trump, a lunatic. When does him saying that of everyone become slander??

He seems to be the Teflon Don. What I'd like to know is, how has he lived his criminal, nasty life w/o ever having to do *any* time???

[lookeyloo]

This is from a dictionary search of definition

Fas·cism

/ˈfaSHˌiz(ə)m/

noun

1.an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

 

[ProudMary]

Oh goody, China has entered the chat.

China holds major war games around Taiwan as U.S. boosts ties with Japan to deter "Chinese military aggression"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-taiwan-war-games-us-japan-military-alliance-south-china-sea-tension/

[peacheslatour]

I definitely would prefer a world where conservatives get to say "I told you so" than what we have now. If they were contributing to making society better, I would happily eat crow.

 

[bluegirl147]

6 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

 

7 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I definitely would prefer a world where conservatives get to say "I told you so" than what we have now. If they were contributing to making society better, I would happily eat crow.

 

That is something they don't understand. We want our country to succeed.  We want things to improve for everyone. And if Trump was doing things that would cause that to happen we would say ok we were wrong.  Republicans will never do that.  They are still trying to kill the ACA even though it has enabled to get millions of people healthcare that was otherwise out of reach for them.

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

That is something they don't understand. We want our country to succeed.  We want things to improve for everyone. And if Trump was doing things that would cause that to happen we would say ok we were wrong.  Republicans will never do that.  They are still trying to kill the ACA even though it has enabled to get millions of people healthcare that was otherwise out of reach for them.

Farm subsidies are being decimated, food programs cut off at the knees and we all know what happened to USAID. Farmers are looking at bankruptcy and losing their farms and they will still vote Republican every fucking time. The cognizant dissonance is breathtaking.

[Eri]

I hate to pile on, but Trump also recently chose Sara Carter, a Fox News contributor, to lead the ONDCP, which coordinates the federal response to the opioid overdose crisis across state agencies, including public health agencies. Carter has zero background in drug policy, public health, law enforcement, or government.

She is the 22nd Fox personality Trump has chosen for a major government post. Apparently TV experience is most important when coordinating the nation's response to an addiction crisis that has killed more Americans than the Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan wars combined? 😡

Absurd and surreal! People I know in epidemiology are reeling.

Edited Yest. at 05:45 PM by Eri

[Dimity]

1 hour ago, annzeepark914 said:

He seems to be the Teflon Don. What I'd like to know is, how has he lived his criminal, nasty life w/o ever having to do *any* time???

What always puzzles me is why is he so angry all the time?  He's led a privileged life by anyone's standards.  He's never had any real repercussions for anything he's ever done.  Even by normal people standards he's done well (good health, successful children, roof over his head, food on the table) and yet he's a seething mass of hatred and resentment.

 

[annzeepark914]

8 minutes ago, Dimity said:

What always puzzles me is why is he so angry all the time?  He's led a privileged life by anyone's standards.  He's never had any real repercussions for anything he's ever done.  Even by normal people standards he's done well (good health, successful children, roof over his head, food on the table) and yet he's a seething mass of hatred and resentment.

 

I think he was born angry and hate-filled. Donald Trump is one sick old man.

[fairffaxx]

Dimity, narcissism is usually accompanied by resentment.  The worst narcissist I've known was also wealthy & privileged -- you'd think his developmental years had been fraught with the tortures of the damned to produce such an adult.  I'd feel sorry for the poor beasts if only they didn't wreak such havoc upon the rest of us.

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, Dimity said:

What always puzzles me is why is he so angry all the time?  He's led a privileged life by anyone's standards.  He's never had any real repercussions for anything he's ever done.  Even by normal people standards he's done well (good health, successful children, roof over his head, food on the table) and yet he's a seething mass of hatred and resentment.

 

He feels he's entitled to universal admiration and adoration. Any deviation from total starry eyed idolization is "very unfair" and a "fake news".

[bluegirl147]

Trump had terrible parents.  He also was mentored by Roy Cohn.  He is a spoiled child who never emotionally grew up. He is still a spoiled child who when he doesn't get what he wants throws a temper tantrum.  He also gets played by people. Putin has been playing  him like a fiddle for how many years now? 

30 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

He feels he's entitled to universal admiration and adoration. Any deviation from total starry eyed idolization is "very unfair" and a "fake news".

He is going to be an entire semester for some college psych course I'm sure.  He would never do it but where would a shrink even begin with him?

34 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

I think he was born angry and hate-filled. Donald Trump is one sick old man.

I think if he had been born into a poor family he would still be angry and hate filled.  He is filled with resentment for everything and towards everyone.  I also think he chooses to be that way.  We aren't talking about a man who can't help himself.  This is a sadist who enjoys belittling and berating and just plain old humiliating people. Even his own family members.

52 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Farmers are looking at bankruptcy and losing their farms and they will still vote Republican every fucking time. The cognizant dissonance is breathtaking.

Even though it's a stereotype I think it's true here.  A lot of people that live in rural states don't like (and I'm going to be nice) diverse people.  So Trump doing his level best to make this country white again appeals to them.  And if they have to suffer for it so be it.

[peacheslatour]

He is going to be an entire semester for some college psych course I'm sure.  He would never do it but where would a shrink even begin with him?

Hell, they could send him to Switzerland it would take an entire team of shrinks working round the clock for months to get inside his pathology. 

[lookeyloo]

1 hour ago, peacheslatour said:

Farm subsidies are being decimated, food programs cut off at the knees and we all know what happened to USAID. Farmers are looking at bankruptcy and losing their farms and they will still vote Republican every fucking time. The cognizant dissonance is breathtaking.

This makes it possible for rich people/corporations (corporations are people too) to buy up all the independent farms and control even more.  I think I read or heard that depressions serve to redistribute wealth back to the wealthy.  someone smarter than me will know