Chit-Chat: The Feels

peacheslatour · February 2

26 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

My favorite TV shows have been a much needed source of comfort and escape for me lately. Or, when it comes to more dramatic shows, a much needed catharsis.

I get that. I watch a lot of L&O just to see the bad guys get their comeuppance.

Lantern7 · February 2

Saw this bumper sticker: "TRUMP WON. GET OVER IT!"

Still looking for a good way to fight ignorance. Fighting the urge to stop my car anytime I see flags so I can tear those down.

Anela · February 2

47 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I get that. I watch a lot of L&O just to see the bad guys get their comeuppance.

That's why I've been watching things like The Hunger Games movies, but I also started High Potential, last night.

I'm also glad that I made potato soup, the other night, and the jars I used to store it, are perfect sizes for a bowl of it. I'm "meh" on most foods right now.

Soapy Goddess · February 2

15 hours ago, Harvey said:

Interestingly, everyone else manages to have civil discourse in here 🤭

Amazing how that works🙄

14 hours ago, atomic said:

The White House is using their official social media accounts to go after Selena Gomez all because she posted an emotional video about the ICE raids happening all over the country. Absolute unhinged, scary times we're living in where the government is running targeted campaigns against private citizens who speak out against it.

Nope. That's not the whole story. Like many of us, they're wondering where her "compassion" was for Laken Riley who was killed by an undocumented criminal immigrant.

13 hours ago, Anela said:

As is the added emphasis of their killers being undocumented, as though we don’t have plenty of citizens harming/killing women.

Why shouldn't they? Because but for that undocumented person, no one else was going to kill her. She would have gone on with her nursing studies alive.

Yeah No · February 2

13 hours ago, Bastet said:

We'll ride it out like those of us with income to invest always do. I'm a lot more concerned about the people for whom the increase in the cost of all the affected items will have immediate day-to-day consequences.

For seniors there's a bigger impact on our retirement accounts because we don't have as much time for them to bounce back as younger people do. I even have to remind my 40 something financial advisor of that when he tries to remind me of how the ups and downs still yield a profit in the big picture. Yeah, you can take a long term view of it when you're younger but not so much when you're older.

And being on a "fixed income" the price increases are harder for retired seniors to weather too. My husband is still working so thank goodness for that for now but he's not sure how long he can continue before he will need to stop.

9 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

NPR did as well. Just because the DoD released her name does not mean the networks have to follow suit. Unfortunately Fox News is going to also release her name and most likely will blame her for the crash. (Then the black box info will come out making it crystal clear one of the men was responsible, but that won't get in the way of the narrative)

According to this article her name was shared by the U.S. Army's Public Affairs Office with permission from the family:

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On Saturday, the U.S. Army’s Public Affairs office shared the name of the fallen aviator: Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach, a native of Durham, North Carolina. Lobach, who began her career as an aviation officer with the Army in July 2019, was one of the 67 people who died earlier this week when the Black Hawk helicopter she was co-piloting collided with an American Airlines jet coming in to land at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport, causing both crafts to plummet into the Potomac River.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/female-pilot-in-crash-trump-blames-on-dei-was-in-top-20-of-army/

I only wish that when the black box is analyzed it points to one of the men just to clear Capt. Lobach, but I fear that it will not really point to anyone in particular which would be even worse for her because the misogynists and racists will still assume she was responsible. Not that they wouldn't anyway but still.

I am just beyond angry and saddened that it has come down to this. How any self respecting woman or POC can support this president when he makes comments like this is beyond me. This is more than just a general statement, it is an implication or even outright accusation that a particular "DEI hire" (if she was that) was responsible for this particular accident by virtue of being a DEI hire and nothing else, without even any knowledge of the situation. And in light of her stellar qualifications it is even more reprehensible to assume that just because she's a woman she's more likely to be to blame for it, DEI hire or not.

I don't think Trump's statement even squares with most Republicans' views on things. It appeals to his core sexist/racist MAGA base but where are the millions of "fiscal" and other Republicans that should find it repugnant? Like the ones here in CT who are not as far right as in the South and West. From them it's all crickets. They are complicit in this but refuse to take responsibility. They would rather stay quiet, shrug and passively support it rather than admit how horrible it is. As the evidence continues to pour in their egos are still too big to admit they made a mistake.

I can't even talk to my own husband about this. He voted for Trump in 2016 not willing to take seriously some of the red flags I tried to warn him about, but has not voted for him or any president since. The problem for my husband since Trump has been reelected and is doing and saying stuff like this is that he is constantly having to face the mistake he once made and that's admittedly hard for him. It's like having his nose rubbed in it every day. So I can't talk about what Trump is doing without him getting very aggravated and upset. He asks that we not talk about it and I respect that. He is angry with the situation and hates Trump and what he stands for just as I do but it's been harder for him to accept. I never voted for or supported Trump so it's easier for me. But at least my husband is not deluding himself. He is facing his mistake as hard as that may be for him. He won't continue to live in denial about Trump like so many millions are doing right now just because their egos are too big to admit that they are supporting a dangerous asshole.

Edited February 2 by Yeah No

FilmTVGeek80 · February 2

50 minutes ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Amazing how that works🙄

Nope. That's not the whole story. Like many of us, they're wondering where her "compassion" was for Laken Riley who was killed by an undocumented criminal immigrant.

Why shouldn't they? Because but for that undocumented person, no one else was going to kill her. She would have gone on with her nursing studies alive.

Yeah, it's incredible how some people can disagree without acting like they're being victimized.

That is the whole story. Why the hell is the White House going after someone for saying something they disagree with? For all the conservatives BS about the 1st Amendment, they don't give a crap about it when it comes to people saying things they don't agree with. It's possible to have compassion for Laken Riley without turning a blind eye to the scapegoating of the undocumented.

Is it that hard to grasp the reality that undocumented immigrants kill far less than every other demographic and that judging all of them based on a few is asinine? Black teenagers killed my father. I'm not idiotically running around acting like every Black male is evil, should be treated like animals, and kicked out of the country.

PRgal · February 2

Watched Justin Trudeau’s response to the tariffs last night and he said he tried to reach You Know Who and hasn’t heard back. As of this morning, there’s been nothing from the US side on the retaliation tariffs we’re doing.

https://www.cp24.com/politics/2025/02/02/canada-retaliating-for-trumps-tariffs-with-25-per-cent-tariffs-on-billions-of-us-goods-justin-trudeau/

Annber03 · February 2

I really just want to apologize to the world at large on behalf of my country for all of this tariff bullshit (and all the poltiical mess in general that we're currently inflicting on the rest of the world). I have never been so embarrassed and ashamed to be from the U.S. as I am right now.

nokat · February 2

6 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

I get that. I watch a lot of L&O just to see the bad guys get their comeuppance.

I love to watch what I call revenge porn. Oh, and Kathy Bates as Matlock.

PRgal · February 2

I’m still unsure whether to turn this into a drinking game (Canadian booze only) or not. Or maybe stay sobre and just do popcorn.

nokat · February 2

9 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I’m still unsure whether to turn this into a drinking game (Canadian booze only) or not. Or maybe stay sobre and just do popcorn.

Do you do something weird with popcorn like you do with french fries? I like the seasoned salts.

nokat · February 2

3 hours ago, FilmTVGeek80 said:

Black teenagers killed my father. I'm not idiotically running around acting like every Black male is evil, should be treated like animals, and kicked out of the country.

I think it is brown people in general. I lived in SoCal for a couple decades, and my neighbors were great people. This fake thing about immigrants being evil people is to distract us to the real evil right now.

Edited February 2 by nokat

PRgal · February 2

55 minutes ago, nokat said:

Do you do something weird with popcorn like you do with french fries? I like the seasoned salts.

You mean something like poutine? Not that I know of. I don’t like sweet popcorn though. Just plain salt is fine for me.

Several provinces are removing US alcohol from stores. BC is only doing red states for some reason but Ontario is removing everything.

Bliss · February 2

I believe a lot of my USA friends will understand that we (Canadians) don't hold them accountable for the actions of tRump. I don't know anyone who voted for him (perhaps they're too embarrassed to admit it?) and at this moment in time, I don't want to know anyone who thinks what he's doing is "ok'. He's an absolute disgrace to humanity.

We've had a friendship with USA for 150+ years (some ups and downs, just like normal neighbours); however, when tRump says Canada has nothing he wants, I have to wonder, "then WHY do you want us as your 51st state?" Hmmm. Maybe he simply wants to surpass Putin in country size?

Our home has always been open to our southern friends and I'm grateful for all my travels to the states because there will be no more until the orange felon is no longer in power. No more California wine either!

tRump's tariffs are going to bite him in his huge rear end. Bullies always lose in the end.

p.s. I'll still send my friends maple syrup!

Dimity · February 2

Browncoat · February 2

4 minutes ago, Bliss said:

however, when tRump says Canada has nothing he wants, I

And he's lying about that -- we get a significant percentage of our oil from Canada. And Mexico, too, for that matter.

nokat · February 2

Intelligent women, people of color, you know, the competent people who are trying their best, are somehow bad for the country. Meanwhile we have nazi saluting billionaires who have (not) our best interests at heart.

Dimity · February 2

2 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

And he's lying about that -- we get a significant percentage of our oil from Canada. And Mexico, too, for that matter.

He's lying, of course, but I have to wonder to what end. Obviously prices are going to rise as a consequence of his tariffs on countries (and he's basically threatening to do this for any country he feels displeases him in any way) does he think no one will notice?

Browncoat · February 2

1 minute ago, Dimity said:

He's lying, of course, but I have to wonder to what end. Obviously prices are going to rise as a consequence of his tariffs on countries (and he's basically threatening to do this for any country he feels displeases him in any way) does he think no one will notice?

They'll notice, but they'll find some way to blame Biden.

nokat · February 2

1 minute ago, Browncoat said:

They'll notice, but they'll find some way to blame Biden.

Biden said kill the bird flu chickens. The bird flu was left out, so just Biden raised egg prices because he's responsible for all of the bad. It infuriates me how they twist things.

Dimity · February 2

2 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

They'll notice, but they'll find some way to blame Biden.

I know with few exceptions that I'm preaching to the converted here but it's important to remember that these tariffs have nothing to do with actual trade imbalances or national security or drugs or whatever reason of the moment they are promoting, it's all down to enriching Donald Trump. He's never really kept that a secret. It's the Republicans in the House and the Senate who are letting him do this who are the true villains here. Not villain adjacent. They are enabling a sociopath.

bluegirl147 · February 2

27 minutes ago, Bliss said:

We've had a friendship with USA for 150+ years (some ups and downs, just like normal neighbours); however, when tRump says Canada has nothing he wants, I have to wonder, "then WHY do you want us as your 51st state?" Hmmm. Maybe he simply wants to surpass Putin in country size?

We all know how sensitive Trump is about the size of his.......country.

24 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

And he's lying about that -- we get a significant percentage of our oil from Canada. And Mexico, too, for that matter.

And with climate change who knows what other natural resources will be available in Canada. That is one reason why he wants Greenland.

22 minutes ago, nokat said:

Intelligent women, people of color, you know, the competent people who are trying their best, are somehow bad for the country. Meanwhile we have nazi saluting billionaires who have (not) our best interests at heart.

Racism and misogyny have become the American way. Well it actually it always was it's just now they aren't trying to hide it.

23 minutes ago, Dimity said:

He's lying, of course, but I have to wonder to what end. Obviously prices are going to rise as a consequence of his tariffs on countries (and he's basically threatening to do this for any country he feels displeases him in any way) does he think no one will notice?

He wouldn't have done this in his first term because he needed his voters for a second term. But now he thinks fuck em.

17 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I know with few exceptions that I'm preaching to the converted here but it's important to remember that these tariffs have nothing to do with actual trade imbalances or national security or drugs or whatever reason of the moment they are promoting, it's all down to enriching Donald Trump. He's never really kept that a secret. It's the Republicans in the House and the Senate who are letting him do this who are the true villains here. Not villain adjacent. They are enabling a sociopath.

And they will be the ones left holding the bag. People in blood red districts/states will survive but I predict a lot of Republican incimbents lose in 2026. Assuming we aren't under marital law by then.

atomic · February 2

8 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

We all know how sensitive Trump is about the size of his.......country.

Dimity · February 2

7 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

And they will be the ones left holding the bag.

You have to wonder just how far they will let things go. They're thrilled about the attacks on DEI and they want abortion banned and women back in the kitchen and they seem fine with raising drug prices and limiting access to doctors and hospitals. All good. Will they also be fine with Trump invading another county? Canada, Panama, Greenland, some place he's yet to set his sights on? Are they going to be fine with an all out war on what was once a peaceful ally?

bluegirl147 · February 2

16 minutes ago, Dimity said:

You have to wonder just how far they will let things go. They're thrilled about the attacks on DEI and they want abortion banned and women back in the kitchen and they seem fine with raising drug prices and limiting access to doctors and hospitals. All good. Will they also be fine with Trump invading another county? Canada, Panama, Greenland, some place he's yet to set his sights on? Are they going to be fine with an all out war on what was once a peaceful ally?

Not just that but will they be OK with him tanking the economy? Not all of them have billionaire donors willing to back them. A lot of them have just plain old millionaire donors. And they could take a hit. Not to mention Congress members do their fair share of insider trading with the stock market but even they could take a hit if it gets roiled by Trump's tariffs.

Yeah No · February 2

1 hour ago, Bliss said:

I believe a lot of my USA friends will understand that we (Canadians) don't hold them accountable for the actions of tRump. I don't know anyone who voted for him (perhaps they're too embarrassed to admit it?) and at this moment in time, I don't want to know anyone who thinks what he's doing is "ok'. He's an absolute disgrace to humanity.

Thank you. I apologized to one of my Canadian cousins the other day on the chat function of Ancestry.com. She had written to me about some new records she found about our family. She told me not to worry and that she knew I would never support Trump's policies on trade or anything else. I feel much better now!

Dimity · February 2

2 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Not just that but will they be OK with him tanking the economy? Not all of them have billionaire donors willing to back them. A lot of them have just plain old millionaire donors. And they could take a hit. Not to mention Congress members do their fair share of insider trading with the stock market but even they could take a hit if it gets roiled by Trump's tariffs.

I'd love to believe most of them would be genuinely concerned about the economy of the country but based on their actions in the last 8 years I am betting if they do anything at all it will be when they feel their own personal finances being affected. Republicans are proving they care nothing about the good of the people, only what's good for DJT and themselves.

Yeah No · February 2

3 minutes ago, bluegirl147 said:

Not just that but will they be OK with him tanking the economy? Not all of them have billionaire donors willing to back them. A lot of them have just plain old millionaire donors. And they could take a hit. Not to mention Congress members do their fair share of insider trading with the stock market but even they could take a hit if it gets roiled by Trump's tariffs.

I somehow think he's going to roll a lot of this stuff back if they cause too many negative effects, especially to the stock market. Because some of that stuff matters to his billionaire minions too. I think he's just playing now, just trying to get people upset, sow more division and create a diversion from what he's REALLY doing. Also it's swinging his you-know-what to get the message across that he's the big boss of the world again. It's all smoke and mirrors, but still dangerous, though!

bluegirl147 · February 2

4 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

I somehow think he's going to roll a lot of this stuff back if they cause too many negative effects, especially to the stock market. Because some of that stuff matters to his billionaire minions too. I think he's just playing now, just trying to get people upset, sow more division and create a diversion from what he's REALLY doing. Also it's swinging his you-know-what to get the message across that he's the big boss of the world again. It's all smoke and mirrors, but still dangerous, though!

I agree he will most likely back down when his rich friends tell him to. As I said earlier he is a toddler seeing what he can get away with. And the chaos helps to distract from all the other horrible things he is doing.

Yeah No · February 2

1 minute ago, bluegirl147 said:

I agree he will most likely back down when his rich friends tell him to. As I said earlier he is a toddler seeing what he can get away with. And the chaos helps to distract from all the other horrible things he is doing.

That's so right - he's testing the boundaries. And loving how it's making everyone who doesn't support him and has something to lose by what he's doing upset and afraid.

In the past week he has demoralized me to even worse depths than before and I thought that was pretty bad. How can his base just stand there and cheer this stupidity? We used to be able to disagree with people in this country on politics but not have this vindictive, retributive attitude. And he has only fanned those flames and continues to do so with stuff like this. It can't possibly be for the good of the country. I even see Republicans complaining about all the political division, but don't they see how he has been the biggest instigator of that in the past 10 years? He is only doing this to divide and conquer us so that he and his billionaire buddies can have their way while we all fight with each other over petty stuff like pronouns. It's criminal. And yet from Republicans it's crickets on this issue.

Dimity · February 2

Something popped up on my FB about people boycotting Target. Is this a real thing or the usual FB fakery?

peacheslatour · February 2

16 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Something popped up on my FB about people boycotting Target. Is this a real thing or the usual FB fakery?

People have been boycotting Target for a couple of years because they sold Pride gear. I think they stopped doing that like a bunch of sniveling cowards so I don't know what they have their noses out of joint about this time.

ProudMary · February 2

4 minutes ago, Dimity said:

Something popped up on my FB about people boycotting Target. Is this a real thing or the usual FB fakery?

It's a real thing. Target has fully embraced the "get rid of DEIA" agenda, right down to ending relationships with designers whose creations were promoted in the past.

BTW, this is as good a place as any to zero in on the fact that the Executive Orders issued since the inauguration have included Accessibility as well as Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Those with disabilities are also singled out. Please consider using DEIA as the acronym moving forward, as the US Government is now doing in its official communications.

ProudMary · February 2

Here is a recent PBS article regarding the boycott against Target.

After Target backs away from diversity programs, civil rights activists call for a boycott

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/after-target-backs-away-from-diversity-programs-civil-rights-activists-call-for-a-boycott

Also, here is info about just how deep they're going with these changes.

Target says it is ending its DEI goals and programs, citing an ‘evolving external landscape’

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/target-says-it-is-ending-its-dei-goals-and-programs-citing-an-evolving-external-landscape

bluegirl147 · February 2

Not that I go to Target all that often but I can boycott it just like I do Hobby Lobby and Chick Fil A.

peacheslatour · February 2

20 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

It's a real thing. Target has fully embraced the "get rid of DEIA" agenda, right down to ending relationships with designers whose creations were promoted in the past.

BTW, this is as good a place as any to zero in on the fact that the Executive Orders issued since the inauguration have included Accessibility as well as Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Those with disabilities are also singled out. Please consider using DEIA as the acronym moving forward, as the US Government is now doing in its official communications.

Good thing we don't shop there then. Costco forever. From Yahoo Finance-

Costco is perhaps the most notable example of a company that has stood by their DEI policies. In mid-January, the company's shareholders overwhelmingly voted against a proposal urging the wholesale club to evaluate risks posed by its diversity, equity, and inclusion measures.4 days ago

bluegirl147 · February 2

5 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

Good thing we don't shop there then. Costco forever. From Yahoo Finance-

Costco is perhaps the most notable example of a company that has stood by their DEI policies. In mid-January, the company's shareholders overwhelmingly voted against a proposal urging the wholesale club to evaluate risks posed by its diversity, equity, and inclusion measures.4 days ago

Evaluate risks posed by DEI? Only risks I see are dealing with Trump and his MAGA base and their deluded outrage.

Browncoat · February 2

22 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Here is a recent PBS article regarding the boycott against Target.

After Target backs away from diversity programs, civil rights activists call for a boycott

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/after-target-backs-away-from-diversity-programs-civil-rights-activists-call-for-a-boycott

Also, here is info about just how deep they're going with these changes.

Target says it is ending its DEI goals and programs, citing an ‘evolving external landscape’

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/target-says-it-is-ending-its-dei-goals-and-programs-citing-an-evolving-external-landscape

Dammit. My choices are Target and Walmart, and I am NOT going to Walmart.

Anela · February 2

3 hours ago, bluegirl147 said:

I think BC is only doing red states to send a message. Of course Trump voters in those states won't understand the message. Which is you reap what you sow.

Yeah, except we have a lot of democrats, too. I didn’t reap this shit.
I saw a comment from a Canadian woman, who said something about us saying, “we didn’t vote for this” but that we hadn’t done anything to keep it from building to this, over the years. We tried!! We fucking tried!

bluegirl147 · February 2

6 minutes ago, Anela said:

Yeah, except we have a lot of democrats, too. I didn’t reap this shit.
I saw a comment from a Canadian woman, who said something about us saying, “we didn’t vote for this” but that we hadn’t done anything to keep it from building to this, over the years. We tried!! We fucking tried!

I live in a red state as well although I'm pretty sure the only liquor we make is moonshine.

This is the problem with Trump's "'policies". We all suffer.

Dimity · February 2

One good thing I am seeing are all positive posts about Canada all over FB right now. It's making a nice break from the Trudeau haters blah blah blahing for the past 10 years.

Edited February 2 by Dimity

peacheslatour · February 2

I think I found his motivation.

Anela · February 2

9 hours ago, Soapy Goddess said:

Amazing how that works🙄

Nope. That's not the whole story. Like many of us, they're wondering where her "compassion" was for Laken Riley who was killed by an undocumented criminal immigrant.

Why shouldn't they? Because but for that undocumented person, no one else was going to kill her. She would have gone on with her nursing studies alive.

Trump has removed information and resources involving domestic violence, from the government website. He has scrubbed it of anything that would help women. You voted for this guy, who does not care about women, at all. Multiple accusations of rape, a conviction when it came to sexual assault…

Edited February 2 by Anela

PRgal · February 2

Here's the full list of retaliation tariffs. Also, my husband is in automotive and he says it could take THREE YEARS for the US to realign the industry so that EVERYTHING, including parts for cars would be made domestically in the US. It's going to get pretty messy.

Dimity · February 2

I've seen articles and a bunch of posts on FB now filled with ways to avoid buying US products. There's really not much else we as individuals can do but the two things we can do are not buy American as much as possible and not go down to the States. Will it matter? I have no idea, but it sure feels good to feel we have at least some control.

PRgal · February 2

2 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I've seen articles and a bunch of posts on FB now filled with ways to avoid buying US products. There's really not much else we as individuals can do but the two things we can do are not buy American as much as possible and not go down to the States. Will it matter? I have no idea, but it sure feels good to feel we have at least some control.

It'll be a challenge to ONLY buy Canadian due to supply chain. And you'll definitely need to give up coffee, period, since we don't grow our own beans domestically. I do buy coffee from companies that roast here though. Like Pilot (I went to middle and high school with one of the founders).

Dimity · February 2

4 minutes ago, PRgal said:

It'll be a challenge to ONLY buy Canadian due to supply chain.

I don't think anyone is advocating only buying Canadian. Just avoiding buying American as much as possible. I'm up for the challenge. There's a great big world out there and we already have access to a lot of products, including fresh produce, from countries other than the US.

Edited February 2 by Dimity

Blergh · February 2

7 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I really just want to apologize to the world at large on behalf of my country for all of this tariff bullshit (and all the poltiical mess in general that we're currently inflicting on the rest of the world). I have never been so embarrassed and ashamed to be from the U.S. as I am right now.

I am NOT (and have never been) ashamed to be from the U.S. I am ashamed that there are OTHERS from our nation that are putting us in a bad light re the rest of the world.

I'm from the US Southeast so I've had to deal with the issues of others from my neck of the woods making us look bigoted, hateful, willfully ignorant,etc. my entire life and I will admit to being somewhat taken aback at how much progress re others becoming fair minded, compassionate,etc. has been at least paused. I refuse to believe that the changes for the worse can't be reversed but it will take a LOT of time, effort and being willing to put up with a great deal of flak.

I somewhat relate to Enoch on the classic Krofft show Land of the Lost (1974-1976) who was a Sleestak from an earlier, more enlightened time when the Sleestaks had been progressive and civilized that got sent to a later 'contemporary' time in which their descendants had devolved in being hateful, destructive and xenophobic against others (especially humans). Despite this, Enoch sought out and and did all he could to help the human Marshalls (despite the Marshalls own initial fear of him- solely due to him having been a member of this species that had considered the Marshalls their sworn enemies).

Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that as long as we individually remain polite, kind, helpful and fairminded to others, there is a chance not only to get those outside our ballparks to give us a chance to be evaluated as individuals rather than just lumped into a group in which the worst examples have the loudest voices but also to make inroads to help turn the tide with future generations via faith, education,etc.

peacheslatour · February 2

12 minutes ago, Dimity said:

I've seen articles and a bunch of posts on FB now filled with ways to avoid buying US products. There's really not much else we as individuals can do but the two things we can do are not buy American as much as possible and not go down to the States. Will it matter? I have no idea, but it sure feels good to feel we have at least some control.

I've been trying to avoid products made in China and it's nigh on impossible.

bluegirl147 · February 2

If we survive this I doubt we will be like Germany and denounce all this.

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