S05.02 Gary Crashes

[Chatty Cake]

This is my first season watching Sailing Yacht. 
Did Gary and Daisy used to hook up?  Did he try and sabotage her and Collin last season?
The engineer said he was married to a man but is straight. Was he joking? 
The flirty girl is annoying as can be.

Edited October 15 by Chatty Cake

[snarts]

@Chatty Cake Glen, Colin, Gary & Daisy were all on seasons 2-4. Gary & Daisy apparently hooked up between seasons 3&4 but remained friends. Colin expressed a romantic interest in Daisy during season 4 and they began exploring a relationship. Gary did try to sabotage it and it didn't last. Apparently Gary ghosted on their friendship, which is why Daisy is angry.

Layered in, while Gary's always acted like a cad, apparently there were multiple allegations of sexual harassment reported which Bravo claimed were investigated & unfounded. Rolling Stone published an expose of the supposed cover-up in August 2023.

This was filmed in July 2023 (thank you charter guest, Dr whatever). After the Rolling Stone article was released, Gary was disinvited to BravoCon and the season sat on ice for over a year. Now it's finally airing and Gary is claiming that he's being edited out. ???

I don't see it, he was damn near the focus of the episode. His name is in the credits and everything.

Edited October 15 by snarts
season 2-4; I forgot season 1 had a different crew

[iMonrey]

4 hours ago, snarts said:

Gary did try to sabotage it and it didn't last. Apparently Gary ghosted on their friendship, which is why Daisy is angry.

I can't figure Daisy out, she's all over the place. She said she was angry at Gary for not respecting her relationship with Colin but next thing you know she's crying because Gary wouldn't talk to her after she broke up with Colin. So which is it? She expects him to leave her alone if she's with someone else but be at her beck and call when she's not? 

On last season's reunion show she tried to paint Colin as the bad guy and nobody was buying it. She ended up crying and walking away from the computer. Had they not already started filming this season when that reunion took place I think she would have bailed on the show. She's been just as humiliated as Gary. They're both toxic.

OMG those pics of Glenn when he had an afro.

I would expect Davide to be pronounced "dah-veed" not "dah-vee-day." 

I want to know what they're always spraying on those cabin beds. It looks like Fabreeze. I wouldn't be able to stand it if I came back to my cabin and it reeked of Fabreeze. It's just rank perfume. 

[Baltimore Betty]

I haven't even learned the stews names but that one who was swooning over the host manager person at the club...she was practically salivating, he was average at best and works in a club environment and probably has no problem meeting beautiful girls.

I like the chef, he knows his way around a kitchen, he is secure in who he is, what could possibly go wrong?

The guests were nice, no crazy asks except that leather and lace dancing lesson, cringe!!

I really like the woman on the deck crew, levelheaded and she is most likely not going to get caught up in some stupid shipboard romance and get all emotional over it's demise AND this is a big AND, we know she is not going to sleep with Gary.

 

 

[Mindthinkr]

I really thought that Gary was going to be in hotter water over hitting the rocks with the tender. When it suddenly cut to commercial I was afraid that he and the dance instructor were going to be thrown into the sea. He’s lucky the engine was spared. I wonder who pays for that mistake. 
 

I like the new chef. I was happy he was ironing his own shirt rather than ask a stew to do it. Also cuff links. He was going for the dapper gent look. At age 22 that’s impressive. Well maybe not as impressive as thinly slicing the onion blindfolded. 

[aghst]

Danielle is the one that's thirsty.

First over the deckhand Keith.

Then at the beach club.

Then got pissed when Keith said she was punching above her weight.

 

Gary was busy chatting up the dancer while driving the tender to take her home.

 

That beach club seemed like it was for much younger people than the guests.  OTOH, older people have the money to afford those places.

 

[LotusFlower]

6 hours ago, snarts said:

This was filmed in July 2023 (thank you charter guest, Dr whatever). After the Rolling Stone article was released, Gary was disinvited to BravoCon and the season sat on ice for over a year. Now it's finally airing and Gary is claiming that he's being edited out. ???

I don't see it, he was damn near the focus of the episode. His name is in the credits and everything.

I think he was referencing the leather-and-lace dance scene.  Usually when the whole crew dresses up and participates in these kinds of things, they show it and play it up.  Here, they showed very little, and it was abruptly over, weirdly only showing Gary struggling to remove the lingerie he was wearing.  Makes sense they would cut any scenes of him doing anything  seemingly risqué.

He also mentioned in his IG post that the “false” allegation was hurting his livelihood, so he must think he’s gone after this season.  As mentioned, he’s too much of a main character to edit out completely, but I think they’re trying to editi him out gradually, or take out whatever they can.  

[psychoticstate]

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I can't figure Daisy out, she's all over the place. She said she was angry at Gary for not respecting her relationship with Colin but next thing you know she's crying because Gary wouldn't talk to her after she broke up with Colin. So which is it? She expects him to leave her alone if she's with someone else but be at her beck and call when she's not? 

On last season's reunion show she tried to paint Colin as the bad guy and nobody was buying it. She ended up crying and walking away from the computer. Had they not already started filming this season when that reunion took place I think she would have bailed on the show. She's been just as humiliated as Gary. They're both toxic.

 

Exactly.  How many seasons are we going to be subjected to Daisy declaring "this is it" when it comes to Gary?   She doesn't want him in a boyfriend capacity but she wants him at her beck and call.  And no matter how many times she says it, she was just as guilty as Gary last season.  I hate to defend him but he was acting like his usual self and she did not shut him down.  In fact, she encouraged it because I think she liked the idea of Gary and Colin fighting over her.  So that's on her.  And Gary had nothing to do with telling Colin she didn't want to travel with him or visit him (per Colin).  Again, that's on her.

I think this was said last week but Daisy really is a terrible chief stew - other than not ranking the stews.  If she needs Gary to go and pick up her stews from the beach club, maybe she should actually ask him like a normal human being instead of just assuming that Gary can't wait to jump up and do something for her.    And why on earth did she send both her stews to the beach club?  Why wouldn't a stew and a deckhand go?

Second episode and I've already had enough of Danni.  Put your hormones away, girl.  

Run for your life, Cloyce.  One night of drinking and Daisy is going to be gunning for you.  

[Mr. Miner]

Two episodes in and I’m waiting for Daisy to actually do something. She’s the wooorst!

[Meowwww]

I’m just……over the Daisy/Gary drama.  And of course skeezy Gary is hitting on a chick when he crashes the tender.  It isn’t cute anymore. 
And Daisy saying chef isn’t her type….well duh, he’s 22.  Isn’t she almost 40? 

[maggiemae]

Daisy is so proud of herself...a Chief Stew and wanted by men/boys.

Ewwww.

 

 

[iMonrey]

8 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

If she needs Gary to go and pick up her stews from the beach club, maybe she should actually ask him like a normal human being instead of just assuming that Gary can't wait to jump up and do something for her. 

And why did she have to wake up Gary to deliver the swim trunks? Both Keith and Emma were already up. They can't drive the tender?

[SemiCharmedLife]

10 hours ago, aghst said:

That beach club seemed like it was for much younger people than the guests.  OTOH, older people have the money to afford those places.

 

I've drooled over so many locations on the various Below Deck franchises, but I didn't feel the same about what I saw of Ibiza...that shot of a bazillion people standing in the pool?   No thanks.  I guess having a huge crowd is good for partying, but it didn't seem attractive to me.

Regarding the boat crashing into the rock, Gary not only could have hurt the dance instructor and himself, but also the camera person.  He's lucky the accident wasn't worse. I'm livid that Gary is pouting that his scenes have been cut.  He should slither off the series like the creep he is.  And, as far as his livelihood being affected, maybe he should have thought of that before sexually harassing women.  Of course, his job as a deckhand is probably not in jeopardy, just his job as a reality tv star.

[Chatty Cake]

Conetessa is from Married to Medicine and misses being on a reality show. She said the food was the worst part of the trip. I did think they looked a bit ridiculous at the pool club. 
https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/contessa-spills-behind-the-scenes-secrets-chef-cloyce-food-drama-below-deck-sailing

[Baltimore Betty]

7 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I've drooled over so many locations on the various Below Deck franchises, but I didn't feel the same about what I saw of Ibiza...that shot of a bazillion people standing in the pool?   No thanks.  I guess having a huge crowd is good for partying, but it didn't seem attractive to me.

Same but I am probably twice the age of most of the people there...same thing with those wild Las Vegas pools, who needs all that DNA and whatnot in the water.

Gary does pout, he pouts until he gets a hug from a stew who does not want to hug him but that does not matter to Gary as long as he gets what he wants, he is a creep.

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Conetessa is from Married to Medicine and misses being on a reality show. She said the food was the worst part of the trip. I did think they looked a bit ridiculous at the pool club. 
https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/contessa-spills-behind-the-scenes-secrets-chef-cloyce-food-drama-below-deck-sailing

I am surprised she called his food, "children's food", I thought he made some pretty adult food.

A couple of years ago my son and daughter in law were traveling thru Italy, they were in a small town (I cannot remember which one) and sat outside at a cafe and low and behold the table across from them was the Married to Medicine cast! He did not want to disturb the group, so he snuck a few pictures, I guess the cast really are friends and love to travel, unlike some of the HW's shows.

9 hours ago, iMonrey said:

And why did she have to wake up Gary to deliver the swim trunks? Both Keith and Emma were already up. They can't drive the tender?

I think Emma said she did not know how to drive a tender, not sure about the other guy but it did seem stupid to wake up Gary however if he lost sleep because of his accident then that is on him and not a scheduled break situation.

[psychoticstate]

17 hours ago, Meowwww said:

And Daisy saying chef isn’t her type….well duh, he’s 22.  Isn’t she almost 40? 

Of course the chef is her type - he's a man.  

I think Daisy said last season she was 34 or 35.  Definitely old enough (IMO) to NOT be getting black out drunk on every crew outing.  Not sure what Colin saw in her.

15 hours ago, iMonrey said:

And why did she have to wake up Gary to deliver the swim trunks? Both Keith and Emma were already up. They can't drive the tender?

Frankly I don't understand why the guest didn't pack or wear swim trunks when going to a beach party.  Isn't it kind of in the name?  

Makes me wonder if it was some kind of production shenanigans.  

13 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I've drooled over so many locations on the various Below Deck franchises, but I didn't feel the same about what I saw of Ibiza...that shot of a bazillion people standing in the pool?   No thanks.  I guess having a huge crowd is good for partying, but it didn't seem attractive to me.

Regarding the boat crashing into the rock, Gary not only could have hurt the dance instructor and himself, but also the camera person.  He's lucky the accident wasn't worse. I'm livid that Gary is pouting that his scenes have been cut.  He should slither off the series like the creep he is.  And, as far as his livelihood being affected, maybe he should have thought of that before sexually harassing women.  Of course, his job as a deckhand is probably not in jeopardy, just his job as a reality tv star.

I agree.  I would have ZERO desire to go to that beach/pool party.  Why charter a luxury vessel if you're just going to leave it and go to some beach/pool party that apparently everyone else under the age of 25 is going to be at?  Aren't there other things to do in Ibiza?  

While Gary is at fault for crashing the tender, because he was paying more attention to the dancer than driving, I will give him credit for immediately asking everyone on board if they were okay.  Without getting into the allegations against him (because I have zero idea if they are true or not) and despite being oversexed and creepy, he has always seemed to do well at his job.  There has to be a reason that Glenn has kept him on board, whether filming or not. 

6 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Same but I am probably twice the age of most of the people there...same thing with those wild Las Vegas pools, who needs all that DNA and whatnot in the water.

Gary does pout, he pouts until he gets a hug from a stew who does not want to hug him but that does not matter to Gary as long as he gets what he wants, he is a creep.

I am surprised she called his food, "children's food", I thought he made some pretty adult food.

A couple of years ago my son and daughter in law were traveling thru Italy, they were in a small town (I cannot remember which one) and sat outside at a cafe and low and behold the table across from them was the Married to Medicine cast! He did not want to disturb the group, so he snuck a few pictures, I guess the cast really are friends and love to travel, unlike some of the HW's shows.

I think Emma said she did not know how to drive a tender, not sure about the other guy but it did seem stupid to wake up Gary however if he lost sleep because of his accident then that is on him and not a scheduled break situation.

I thought Cloyce's food looked good.  What does she mean "children's food"?  His presentation was nice, his serving sizes were good and he took their preferences into consideration.  

Both Emma and Keith said they weren't familiar with driving a tender so it makes sense that Gary would have to do it.  But Daisy could have apologized for waking him and asked him if he wouldn't mind taking swim trunks to the guest.  It's all about how she just expects him to jump up and do whatever she needs done.  

I don't know why Gary would want to be friends or "friends" with Daisy because it appears to be a very one-sided street to me.  Daisy expects Gary to back off and "respect" her relationship with Colin when it's convenient for her (but also while sending him mixed messages, like encouraging him to motorboat her and hugging on him) but then after blaming him for Colin being upset about the motorboating, etc., she then expects him to pick up the phone and call her immediately upon her relationship with Colin blowing up.  She's a user and Gary should kick her to the curb.  

How long before her stress over/with Gary is going to affect her chief stew duties?  In 3 . . . 2 . . . 

[iMonrey]

21 hours ago, psychoticstate said:

Both Emma and Keith said they weren't familiar with driving a tender so it makes sense that Gary would have to do it. 

Why would they hire two deckhands that can't drive a tender? It speaks to how hard up this show is to find competent people. They're just pulling people out of the reality show try-outs pool, giving them a couple weeks of basic training and throwing them onto the boat. 

[aghst]

I could see them casting some people with a social media following like Gael in BDM.

IIRC she couldn't drive the tender or didn't have experience with the type of tender on that yacht but she practiced with it.

Some places may have rules to get people licensed or certified to drive even those smaller boats in certain ports.

For instance, I recall in BDDU season 1, one of the deckhands was being an ass but boasted that he was certified with driving the tender so he didn't care.

 

[Shrek]

1 hour ago, iMonrey said:

Why would they hire two deckhands that can't drive a tender? It speaks to how hard up this show is to find competent people. They're just pulling people out of the reality show try-outs pool, giving them a couple weeks of basic training and throwing them onto the boat. 

It's not that they can't drive a tender but this one is a jet tender apparently & Gary asked if they had ever driven a "jet tender" & both said no so that's why he's doing it. No idea what the difference is when it comes to driving one compare to a normal tender. I don't see a reason he couldn't teach one or both of them to drive it though.

[snarts]

Gary likes to control things on the boat so even if one of the deckhands could drive the tender, Daisy still would've had to ask him. Not to mention, the reason he was sleeping was because he lost sleep after crashing said tender.

Getting pissy for being asked to do his job was a little ridiculous IMHO. With the guests off the boat the entire day, what other responsibilities did the deck crew have? 

[SemiCharmedLife]

12 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Why would they hire two deckhands that can't drive a tender? It speaks to how hard up this show is to find competent people. They're just pulling people out of the reality show try-outs pool, giving them a couple weeks of basic training and throwing them onto the boat. 

I  had two thoughts:

The number 1 requirement is to be good looking, it seems.  

Production doesn't really want competent people.  Incompetence causes drama.

[Red Bridey]

As I recall, Glenn told Daisy to get Gary up to take the trunks out to the club. So it wasn't Daisy's decision, and tough shit, Gary. Get your ass up and make the customer happy. Did he think Daisy went through the guests' rooms, discovered the missing swim trunks and decided on her own to deliver them just to mess with Gary's nap time? Also the guests were staying far longer than anyone expected and the stews were needed back on the boat for service. They needed to be swapped out with a deckkie. So again, tough shit, Gary!

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

The number 1 requirement is to be good looking, it seems.  

And to be willing to hook up.

[meep.meep]

You need to be licensed to drive a tender.  The other deck hands aren't.

The official title of the episode (according to IMDB) is Tender Bender.

[Shrek]

1 hour ago, meep.meep said:

You need to be licensed to drive a tender.  The other deck hands aren't.

The official title of the episode (according to IMDB) is Tender Bender.

As I said previously, they both said that they couldn't drive a jet tender not that they didn't have a license to drive any tender.  Not that I'm convinced they could but that is what they said.

Where or who says that they have to be licensed ? Isn't a tender just like any boat you or I could drive without a license or is it a special license for carrying  people? 

[meep.meep]

50 minutes ago, Shrek said:

As I said previously, they both said that they couldn't drive a jet tender not that they didn't have a license to drive any tender.  Not that I'm convinced they could but that is what they said.

Where or who says that they have to be licensed ? Isn't a tender just like any boat you or I could drive without a license or is it a special license for carrying  people? 

If you are a professional merchant mariner, then you have to be licensed and may have multiple licenses depending on the sizes/types of boats you are qualified to operate.  In the U.S. the licensing is issued by the Coast Guard and involves taking tests and completing supervised training times.  A few seasons back on Med Sandy fired a bosun who showed up without his certificates at the beginning of the season.

You and I can take our friends out on our own boats, but if we were to accept money for rides, we would need to be licensed.

[iMonrey]

On 10/17/2024 at 11:39 PM, SemiCharmedLife said:

Production doesn't really want competent people.  Incompetence causes drama.

Oh for sure. We've seen them deliberately cast incompetent people every season. But I sometimes wonder if some of these people they cast really have any yachting experience whatsoever, or if they are simply recruited from one of the many reality show casting agencies, given a crash course in boat safety so they have the necessary certificates, and pretend they have backgrounds in yachting. I think that might be the case for a lot of them, especially lately. 

[SemiCharmedLife]

9 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Oh for sure. We've seen them deliberately cast incompetent people every season. But I sometimes wonder if some of these people they cast really have any yachting experience whatsoever, or if they are simply recruited from one of the many reality show casting agencies, given a crash course in boat safety so they have the necessary certificates, and pretend they have backgrounds in yachting. I think that might be the case for a lot of them, especially lately. 

So many good reality shows are ruined by fame-seekers applying for them...and getting on!  The producers should stick with legit and regular people.  It's way more authentic for the viewers.