Season 26 Live Feeds Discussion

[Rodney]

8 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Angela became so into getting rid of T'Kor though (perhaps because she was afraid Leah wasn't bold enough to go for Chelsie) and that seemed like that influenced Leah's decision. I wish Leah was a bolder/better player but at the time everyone was protecting Chelsie (sigh) in their talks with her so she knew it was an uphill battle to get the votes to evict her.

They knew whom the trios were, though, so not as uphill as they thought.  If Leah had just done the Chelsie/T'kor nominations that she'd planned to do, then it would've been easy.  Cam and Makensy would've voted to save Chelsie, and Kimo and Rubina would've voted to save T'kor.  Angela would've then been able to break the tie and send Chelsie packing.  It would've been simple.

Of course, Leah had to overthink and overcomplicate things for herself. . . .

Edited October 5 by Rodney

[Brian Cronin]

Yeah, I'll agree that that was an odd complaint, since we all DID want Leah to nominate T'Kor and Chelsie. She just chickened out. 

[peachmangosteen]

@Brian Cronin, where are you putting Chelsie in your winners tiers? I'm assuming top but hoping you're gonna say mid lol. And, in the very unlikely chance anyone else wins, are you thinking bottom for them? I think an argument could be made to put Makensy in mid. And certainly if she were to evict Chelsie at F3 she would be, but she won't do that.

[Rodney]

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

@Brian Cronin, where are you putting Chelsie in your winners tiers? I'm assuming top but hoping you're gonna say mid lol. And, in the very unlikely chance anyone else wins, are you thinking bottom for them? I think an argument could be made to put Makensy in mid. And certainly if she were to evict Chelsie at F3 she would be, but she won't do that.

Anyone but Chelsie winning should be considered bottom.  Full-stop.

Chelsie should at least be on Jun, Maggie, Hayden, and Derrick's (questionable) tier, though, if she wins.

Edited October 6 by Rodney

[peachmangosteen]

I think Steve is mid tier almost entirely because he cut Vanessa at F3. Amazing move. So if that were to happen with Makensy, she'd be mid imo. But there is literally no chance it's happening. I also think she potentially is lower mid in any case. I know most of us hate it, but comping out like that is kind of insane. Although, just like Chelsie working with idiots, it's not like Makensy has much competition here.

But I think almost all the winners are pretty even tbh. The winners that are truly bottom of the barrel are ones like Dick and Rachel, where there was so much Production interference to get them their win. I would include Cody too since his win was basically orchestrated by Derrick pre-season. And I guess one could make the case for including Jag since he was literally evicted lol.

ETA: Maybe Jordan would be too since the Cootie Taw helped her even if what Production really wanted was to help Jeff.

Edited October 5 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

@Brian Cronin, where are you putting Chelsie in your winners tiers? I'm assuming top but hoping you're gonna say mid lol. And, in the very unlikely chance anyone else wins, are you thinking bottom for them? I think an argument could be made to put Makensy in mid. And certainly if she were to evict Chelsie at F3 she would be, but she won't do that.

Second tier, with the other winners who controlled their seasons, but didn't really have to fight to win, so Hayden, Maggie and Derrick. I thiiiiiiiiiink Xavier belongs there, too, but I struggle with calling him the "leader" of the Cookout, but since everyone was fighting to protect Xavier all throughout that season, I guess he really was the de facto leader of the group. 

I put Steve at the high end of the third tier, which is basically "every other BB winner." I'd probably put Makensy right there with Steve if she won. Rubina would be there, as well, just lower (but, again, most winners are just thrown into the third tier, and I don't think of ranks very much. Like, was Lisa better than Nicole? Who the fuck knows? They were all just sort of there. Same with Rubina). I have Jag in that third tier, too, as he's a lot like Kaycee. Just sort of there, and then went on a competition-winning spree to separate himself from the pack, and since they were all just "there," no one hated them at the end.  

I don't even count the All-Star seasons, Dick's season or BB9. They weren't really "real" seasons. The trickiest winner for me to rank is Jackson. It feels wrong putting him in one of the top tiers, but that dude really did play a marvelous game. He was on the outs of the majority alliance for a good chunk of the game, and then pulled off one of the greatest mistings in the history of the game when he got Tommy eliminated. 

Edited October 5 by Brian Cronin

[peachmangosteen]

16 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I don't even count the All-Star seasons, Dick's season or BB10. They weren't really "real" seasons. 

Wait, why 10? I feel like Dan is one of the best winners and I don't remember much interference. Also, I would include 13 in that list.

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I have Jag in that third tier, too, as he's a lot like Kaycee. Just sort of there, and then went on a competition-winning spree to separate himself from the pack, and since they were all just "there," no one hated them at the end.  

Jag was really controlling things for the second half though, which of course that's easy to do when you're winning comps. Yet Kaycee was never the decision maker at all. And I hated her but still super pumped she beat Tyler lol.

Edited October 5 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

Oh, sorry, I meant 9. Sorry, I'll correct the typo. 

Edited October 5 by Brian Cronin

[peachmangosteen]

1 hour ago, Brian Cronin said:

I don't even count the All-Star seasons, Dick's season or BB10. They weren't really "real" seasons. 

 

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

Wait, why 10? I feel like Dan is one of the best winners and I don't remember much interference. Also, I would include 13 in that list.

Just realized 1 and OTT would also have to be in this list. I actually like 1 and OTT is in my Top 5 probably but I did forget both existed until just now lol.

[Rodney]

3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Just realized 1 and OTT would also have to be in this list. I actually like 1 and OTT is in my Top 5 probably but I did forget both existed until just now lol.

I still think that Morgan belongs in the Pantheon of winners.  Sure, the boots were fan-voted, but she had a good social game with the houseguests and made sure to behave well enough to be appealing enough to the voting audience.  Audience appeal was important that season, as well.  Something that Jason's side didn't realize, while the Ball Smashers did.

Not much going on right now.  Makensy's napping in the HoH room, Rubina is jogging laps in the backyard, and no sign of Chelsie or Cam anywhere.

Rubina is pumping herself up, talking and singing to herself to keep herself going.  She's going to go for one-hundred laps.

Rubina says that her heart is hurting now, but it's probably her rib.

[Rodney]

Rubina has just finished her laps.  She's heading inside to rest.

She's talking to Chelsie and Cam, who've both just gotten up from naps.

[Brian Cronin]

12 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Just realized 1 and OTT would also have to be in this list. I actually like 1 and OTT is in my Top 5 probably but I did forget both existed until just now lol.

Yeah, OTT was a blast, but it definitely doesn't count. And yes, 1 was a whole other game.

[Rodney]

Rubina's tying back her hair in the backyard.  Cam's gone out to relax in the backyard.  Chelsie's getting ready to make something in the kitchen.  And Makensy's . . . still napping in the HoH room.

Greeeeaaaat stuff right now, people.  Greeeeaaaat stuff.

[Rodney]

Cam and Rubina are talking about seasonal differences in their home regions.  Cam believes that it's probably in the sixties or seventies back in his home, while it's an eighties or nineties day where they are right now.  Cam's been to L.A. in the winter, though, and knows that it can be just like fall there, and Rubina agrees.  She says that you can wear T-shirts in the winter out in L.A., which I bet is true.

At one point, Rubina shushes Cam while a plane goes by overhead.  So it sounds like she's figured out that planes can drown out what they say to each other.  She says that she won't miss those, and Cam agrees.

Cam then gets busted for humming, but he's incredulous about it, because it's not even a real song he's humming!  Rubina laughs at the "passive-aggressive" delivery of the warning given to Cam.

[pinkandsparkly13]

Geez is there nothing going on? Lol

[Rodney]

22 minutes ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Geez is there nothing going on? Lol

Only real "drama" is whom Makensy is going to choose.  She's still leaning toward keeping Rubina, but she's going back and forth between the two now.

[choclatechip45]

I would put Chelsea in the second tier if she won. Mackenzy in the middle tier. Cam and Rubina in my second bottom tier. 

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

Only real "drama" is whom Makensy is going to choose.  She's still leaning toward keeping Rubina, but she's going back and forth between the two now.

Yeah, it's one of those things where all you can do is get in your own head about it. 

[peachmangosteen]

8 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

Yeah, it's one of those things where all you can do is get in your own head about it. 

Another reason they need to shorten these final weeks. 

[SummerDreams]

So will they do the veto ceremony live on Thursday and then cut the feeds?

[peachmangosteen]

30 minutes ago, SummerDreams said:

So will they do the veto ceremony live on Thursday and then cut the feeds?

The veto ceremony is live on the show Thursday and then the feeds will mostly likely be on until the final day, Sunday. They normally cut the morning of the finale.

Edited October 7 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

3 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Another reason they need to shorten these final weeks. 

Yep, 100%. It's just absurd. 

[SummerDreams]

The veto ceremony has not happened YET?

[Brian Cronin]

No, they want it to be live for the show, then they'll start the first part of the F3 HoH live on Thursday. 

Then an episode on Friday (taped second part of F3 HoH, plus a trip down Memory Lane), and then on Sunday, the live conclusion of the F3 HOH followed by the final vote. 

[Ellee]

Forgot about the memory lane part. Oh boy  Should be _______ (Fill in the blank)

 

[Nashville]

46 minutes ago, Ellee said:

Forgot about the memory lane part. Oh boy  Should be _______ (Fill in the blank)

 

Why?  The blank is a perfectly adequate descriptor as is.  😆

[PhoneCop]

7 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Another reason they need to shorten these final weeks. 

I'm surprised they don't, if only for budgetary reasons*. Once they get down to F5, they should really wrap things up within 10 days. I don't see any reason, gaming-wise or feeds-wise, to drag things out longer than that, especially with the F3 finale model.

*I understand not wanting to short the crew a week of work, but they could just add a pre-jury buyback or something.

[Rodney]

3 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

Then an episode on Friday (taped second part of F3 HoH, plus a trip down Memory Lane), and then on Sunday, the live conclusion of the F3 HOH followed by the final vote. 

And the final eviction.

[peachmangosteen]

3 hours ago, Brian Cronin said:

No, they want it to be live for the show, then they'll start the first part of the F3 HoH live on Thursday. 

Then an episode on Friday (taped second part of F3 HoH, plus a trip down Memory Lane), and then on Sunday, the live conclusion of the F3 HOH followed by the final vote. 

I think it's Part 1 on Friday's ep interspersed with a recap of the season and then Parts 2 and 3 on Sunday's finale, isn't it? I haven't watched the last couple weeks of episodes in so long I'm not exactly sure but I believe that's how they've been doing it for awhile.

52 minutes ago, PhoneCop said:

I'm surprised they don't, if only for budgetary reasons*. Once they get down to F5, they should really wrap things up within 10 days. I don't see any reason, gaming-wise or feeds-wise, to drag things out longer than that, especially with the F3 finale model.

*I understand not wanting to short the crew a week of work, but they could just add a pre-jury buyback or something.

I think it's just so they have episodes to fill airtime on TV.

Edited October 7 by peachmangosteen

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

And the final eviction.

Oh, right, good call, final eviction and THEN the final vote.

1 hour ago, peachmangosteen said:

I think it's Part 1 on Friday's ep interspersed with a recap of the season and then Parts 2 and 3 on Sunday's finale, isn't it? I haven't watched the last couple weeks of episodes in so long I'm not exactly sure but I believe that's how they've been doing it for awhile.

Yeah, you might be right that it is the first part that they intersperse with the recap. 

[Rodney]

Sigh.  Chelsie's well-oiled machine strikes again.

After going at Makensy for two hours, she has decided to dump Rubina and go to the F3 with Cam, after all.  Even knowing that he's not taking her to the F2, and that Rubina would.

Way to continue your bad choices, Makensy.

Cam and Chelsie were laughing privately at how stupid she is, too, by the way.  And honestly . . . I don't blame them.

[Rodney]

Oh, and this is from earlier this evening:

It must still kill Makensy deep down that Leah and Angela got such loud cheers upon their evictions.  She's been bringing it up a lot lately.

[Brian Cronin]

1 hour ago, Rodney said:

Sigh.  Chelsie's well-oiled machine strikes again.

After going at Makensy for two hours, she has decided to dump Rubina and go to the F3 with Cam, after all.  Even knowing that he's not taking her to the F2, and that Rubina would.

Don't worry, Rubina will work on her hard and get her to change her mind. Oh, what's that? Rubina won't do shit? Oh, yeah, never mind. 

Is Makensy particularly stupid? Yes, but so was Cody and Cowboy, and Lane and Enzo, and all of Maggie's alliance mates.

BB HGs are just typically pretty darn stupid, and when you give them THIS much time to overthink things, they're easy prey.

[30 Helens]

20 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

I think it's just so they have episodes to fill airtime on TV.

Most definitely. Shows like this are very cheap to produce, and trimming off a handful of episodes would produce negligible savings. They'd probably extend the season if they could get away with it, but you can only keep a group of dimwits trapped on a soundstage for so long before you risk charges of kidnapping and mental torture. (The latter on behalf of the audience.)

I'm sure they could find ways to make the final weeks more interesting if they wanted to, aside from the time-honored DR tactic of nudging HG's towards keeping certain "colorful" characters. My ideas:

1. Swap hosts with Survivor for a season. Julie can hang out on the beach during the challenges and yell at castaways to love one another, while they all yell back about how beautiful she looks. Meanwhile, Jeff Probst can try his hand at creating a "new era" of BB. 
2. Make all late-season comps non-physical, to ensure anyone can win.
3. Cast fewer stupid people. Give them all IQ tests; toss out anyone who scores below a Leah.
4. First one evicted gets to come back final week to heckle them. (Note: it wouldn't be Matt this year, because he would never have been cast based on the Leah Scale.)
5. No strategy talks allowed in the last three weeks. Anyone who breaks the rule gets sent to Jankieland, permanently.
6. Introduce the 30 Helens Save: At my sole discretion (with possible input from Christian Siriano), one evicted HG returns.
7. After one of the eviction votes, announce that it's Upside Down week and all votes to evict are actually votes to stay. Person they voted to keep, leaves.
8. Hide an immunity idol somewhere in the house but don't tell anyone about it. (This suggestion courtesy of Jeff Probst, already on the case.)
9. Do a season where everyone is over age 45, because if one feisty Angela or Felicia is comic gold, imagine a whole house of HGs who are set in their ways and NOT HAVING IT.

Some of these are actual suggestions, others are just for my amusement. I'll leave it to you to determine which is which. (Hint: #6 is the real deal. I've earned it, y'all.)

Edited October 8 by 30 Helens

[TimWil]

I guess Joseph has already left Tampa for LA to appear on Finale Night? I should think what happens down there will have to be addressed at some point if only in passing.

Edited October 8 by TimWil

[Gemma Violet]

I wish they'd have more viewer votes, like bringing back the food voting system, i.e., which do you want the houseguests to eat for a week?

Olives, pickles, and boiled eggs, or

Sauerkraut, oysters, and tomatoes, or

Cabbage, raisins, and tripe.

I know they have the have-not slop, but that's just three people and they no longer show any of it on the show.

Edited October 8 by Gemma Violet

[Neveragain]

29 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Swap hosts with Survivor for a season. Julie can hang out on the beach during the challenges and yell at castaways to love one another, while they all yell back about how beautiful she looks. Meanwhile, Jeff Probst can try his hand at creating a "new era" of BB. 

AND THATS HOW YOU DO IT ON BIG BROTHER!!

[SummerDreams]

3 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

yell at castaways to love one another

I laughed so much with this, I created the image in my head with Julie being on the beach with a beach dress yelling "Love one another". 😆

[peachmangosteen]

8 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Do a season where everyone is over age 45, because if one feisty Angela or Felicia is comic gold, imagine a whole house of HGs who are set in their ways and NOT HAVING IT.

No but this for real. They can call it Golden Big Brother.

[Nashville]

5 hours ago, SummerDreams said:

I laughed so much with this, I created the image in my head with Julie being on the beach with a beach dress yelling "Love one another". 😆

Don’t forget the big floppy hat!

[Skooma]

9 hours ago, TimWil said:

I guess Joseph has already left Tampa for LA to appear on Finale Night? I should think what happens down there will have to be addressed at some point if only in passing.

Why? 

They only mentioned 9/11 to the houseguests because a houseguest at the time had a cousin missing in the towers (later confirmed died) but the family wanted her to stay in the game and she did.  Outside news is never addressed other than that time or some other family crisis that I can remember.

As for viewers of the show, nobody even remembers this Joseph guy so nobody cares.  They have had pre-jury people in the past that didn't show up for the 5 seconds pre-jury takes the stage in the background.  He won't be missed.

Besides my theory is that half the people listing other places they live really now live in the LA area where they are busy trying their best to become Z-list fame whores and avoid having to go to work like the rest of us.  😂

[Callaphera]

26 minutes ago, Skooma said:

As for viewers of the show, nobody even remembers this Joseph guy so nobody cares. 

Look, I'm the biggest Joseph's Mustache hater out there but I'll say: the dude did a solid AMA on r/BigBrother not that long ago. Like a real, actual AMA where he answered questions and didn't just give three word answers to the easy ones. Hearing his perspective on Chelsie and T'Kor and Angela in the house versus how they were perceived outside the house now that he's had that step-back moment was actually interesting. He may have even made me a fan temporarily and I don't think I was the only one. It never lasts long than three minutes so I've never seen my doctor about it.

Edited October 8 by Callaphera
words are hard, yo. sentences are harder.

[SummerDreams]

13 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Look, I'm the biggest Joseph's Mustache hater out there but I'll say: the dude did a solid AMA on r/BigBrother not that long ago. Like a real, actual AMA where he answered questions and didn't just give three word answers to the easy ones. Hearing his perspective on Chelsie and T'Kor and Angela in the house versus how they were perceived outside the house now that he's had that step-back moment was actually interesting. He may have even made me a fan temporarily and I don't think I was the only one. It never lasts long than three minutes so I've never seen my doctor about it.

Could you please share the link?

[Callaphera]

AMA link to reddit

This was a week ago or so. There's a lot of junk but there's also a lot of gold in between. I think he talks a lot of bullshit about his own game approach but his perspective was interesting. I think I'm mixing up some of his comments there with another interview (I couldn't find the Chelsie thing I was thinking of unless I missed it in my scrolling) but still, interesting to see the difference between how we see things versus how he experienced them.

ETA: Be sure to unnest some of the comment chains. He follows up occasionally.

Edited October 8 by Callaphera

[Gemma Violet]

2 hours ago, Skooma said:

They only mentioned 9/11 to the houseguests

They also informed the Over the Top BB houseguests of the results of the 2016 election.

I also have a vague memory of another time where Julie gave the houseguests a multiple choice about current events, but maybe I dreamed that.

[Brian Cronin]

The most iconic thing will, of course, will always be Janelle spending her catchup time with Michael learning whether Britney Spears had her baby yet. 

[TimWil]

4 hours ago, Skooma said:

Why? 

They only mentioned 9/11 to the houseguests because a houseguest at the time had a cousin missing in the towers (later confirmed died) but the family wanted her to stay in the game and she did.  Outside news is never addressed other than that time or some other family crisis that I can remember.

As for viewers of the show, nobody even remembers this Joseph guy so nobody cares.  They have had pre-jury people in the past that didn't show up for the 5 seconds pre-jury takes the stage in the background.  He won't be missed.

Besides my theory is that half the people listing other places they live really now live in the LA area where they are busy trying their best to become Z-list fame whores and avoid having to go to work like the rest of us.  😂

Uhhh, no. Joseph has made it clear he lives in Tampa. Haven’t you paid attention enougn to know he works in a video store in Tampa? We all speculated here as to what kind of video store would still be open in 2024.

Milton is looking to be quite devastating for Florida in general and Tampa specifically. If there is a segment with just Julie and the non-Jury HGs on Sunday night she will ask Joseph how he’s doing. 

Edited October 8 by TimWil

[Skooma]

7 hours ago, TimWil said:

Uhhh, no. Joseph has made it clear he lives in Tampa. Haven’t you paid attention enougn to know he works in a video store in Tampa? We all speculated here as to what kind of video store would still be open in 2024.

And how were we to know this store was in Tampa?  And who pays attention to that intro crap anyway.  Also working in one and what he might be doing now are two different things.

[Thalia]

9 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I also have a vague memory of another time where Julie gave the houseguests a multiple choice about current events, but maybe I dreamed that.

I was watching some of the earlier seasons last winter.  There was a food/Have Not competition where the contestants were told about a "news story" in the outside world and had to decide if the story was true or false.    The one question in particular I remember had to do with Bret Favre transferring to the Jets.

[Gemma Violet]

20 minutes ago, Thalia said:

I was watching some of the earlier seasons last winter.  There was a food/Have Not competition where the contestants were told about a "news story" in the outside world and had to decide if the story was true or false.    The one question in particular I remember had to do with Bret Favre transferring to the Jets.

Yes, that's what I was thinking of.  I was thinking it was multiple choice, but you're right--it was true/false.  I wish they'd do something like that again.