S14.E05: Glitz & Blitz

Yours Truly · June 4

11 hours ago, ichbin said:

I got what Teresa was saying. It was an apt description of the type of clothing she was being shown. Of course because it came from her I've seen many comments making it seem as though she has said something insulting. Not surprised Danielle didn't get it.

And I also have to say that Teresa's talking head about that was actually pretty well stated and she actually sounded rather competent on the subject. gasp... LOL.

Baltimore Betty · June 4

12 hours ago, ww92 said:

She says it's because him and his wife co-own a bunch of very profitable brothels and neither him or his wife want to try and untangle that business partnership by getting divorced.

O.M.G! If that is the case couldn't they just deal with a partnership and get divorced, I have to believe there have been other married couples that have been in business together, divorce and still run the business as partners. But O.M.G. if that is true the skeletons in the closets in New Jersey are many and strange.

Delores has a type, nice guys but totally unavailable for matrimony.

kristen111 · June 4

12 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

O.M.G! If that is the case couldn't they just deal with a partnership and get divorced, I have to believe there have been other married couples that have been in business together, divorce and still run the business as partners. But O.M.G. if that is true the skeletons in the closets in New Jersey are many and strange.

Delores has a type, nice guys but totally unavailable for matrimony.

I think it’s pretty lousy of Paulie to string her along and not be honest with Delores. He is NOT a gentleman.

RealHousewife · June 4

3 hours ago, Yours Truly said:

And I also have to say that Teresa's talking head about that was actually pretty well stated and she actually sounded rather competent on the subject. gasp... LOL.

lol she did. I like seeing that side of Teresa.

mostlylurking · June 4

18 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Delores is a fool. If Paulie truly loved her, he would have gotten that divorce long ago. She is a kept woman, waiting like a puppy dog .

I like Delores, but for all her talk about being an independent woman she’s never really been one. Frank Sr. paid all her bills for years after the divorce. He helped set up her business and renovate her house. David built his house too and I think Delores was helping him decorate it. Not she’s playing lady of the house in Paulie’s house. She’s always been a kept woman in one form or another. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, she’s done a fabulous job raising her kids and holding her relationship with her children’s father together. But let’s not say it isn’t so.

18 hours ago, ichbin said:

I loathe to defend Teresa, but she wasn't being mean when she talked about the 'basic' pieces in Danielle's line. Everyone should have pieces that are the foundation of their wardrobe. B

Yep. I even a broken clock is right twice a day and Teresa was right. Everyone needs basics in their wardrobe and they always sell. Especially for kids.

16 hours ago, kristen111 said:

So Melissa came out to be snarky and an instagator tonight?

Unfortunately she’s horrible at it, her impression of Jennifer was awful. Say what you will about Jenn but her impressions are hysterical. Her imitating Danielle was spot on (though I still don’t understand why the hairdresser thought she was entitled to sit in the vip section. Stay in your lane lady.)

The show is boring. I hate to say it but there would be no show without Teresa. They all rotate around her. Jackie, that little opportunist knows where her bread is buttered. It’s kind of pathetic to see her sucking up to Teresa who couldn’t give two shits, but I’m enjoying her more now so it’s fine. Teresa does look to be over it these last two seasons and I don’t really blame her. 14 seasons of this crap is a lot. If she decides she wants to leave or they give her a spin off I think that’s a wrap on the entire show. They’d probably start over like NY did.

mostlylurking · June 4

3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

And I also have to say that Teresa's talking head about that was actually pretty well stated and she actually sounded rather competent on the subject. gasp... LOL.

Between this and watching the functional FaceTime convo with Juicy last week I’m like wow, there is still some sort of normal functional person in there. It’s buried very deep under layers of fillers and spray tan, but it’s there, ha!

5 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

O.M.G! If that is the case couldn't they just deal with a partnership and get divorced, I have to believe there have been other married couples that have been in business together, divorce and still run the business as partners.

I do know more than one couple that has stayed married on paper because of financial reasons. They live completely separate lives and have other relationships, etc. One couple I know has been separated over 25 years and they actually go to dinner together with the new significant others and they all hang out. But legally, they are still married. This could work, but Paulie should have been up front from the start.

Yours Truly · June 4

25 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

The show is boring. I hate to say it but there would be no show without Teresa. They all rotate around her. Jackie, that little opportunist knows where her bread is buttered. It’s kind of pathetic to see her sucking up to Teresa who couldn’t give two shits, but I’m enjoying her more now so it’s fine. Teresa does look to be over it these last two seasons and I don’t really blame her. 14 seasons of this crap is a lot. If she decides she wants to leave or they give her a spin off I think that’s a wrap on the entire show. They’d probably start over like NY did.

I never like Jackie but I'm liking her this season. And to be honest I can get on board the simple, point blank logic. Jackie has moved passed it and doesn't want to be at war with anyone. I get it. Been there. It takes a lot to drudge up the anger and hurt in order to keep fueling that energy to shun, ignore, pull away from someone. If it's someone you're never going to see ever again then I get the logic of never mending fences but I never understand the need to hold onto the bad feelings in situations where you're going to be in each others presence regularly. That's a lot of effort to put into something ugly. Just saying.

I'm also with her when she called out Melissa about why she needs Jackie to still be and stay mad. Jackie has a right to let go and get passed things. Wanting Jackie to hold on to that stuff is the same and wanting Jacking to hold on to that hurt. If Jackie doesn't want to then there is nothing wrong with that. Period.

snarts · June 4

31 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Between this and watching the functional FaceTime convo with Juicy last week I’m like wow, there is still some sort of normal functional person in there. It’s buried very deep under layers of fillers and spray tan, but it’s there, ha!

Teresa's not stupid, she just processes information slowly. It takes her time to absorb & respond. Unfortunately, she was also super reactive, which means she'd too quickly get irritated/angry and attack. The cast was able to use that & manipulate her reactions for so many years.

The combination of age, prison, therapy & Louie have all helped her become less reactive. While she's never going to be quick-witted or eloquent, keeping her cool and walking away when necessary has helped her. Melissa/Marge/Rachel are frustrated because they're no longer able to easily trigger her.

I think Jackie realized Marge viewed her as a number, a soldier, vs. a true friend. And, when Jackie lost her FT cast status, she became even less a priority (e.g. siding with Danielle). That, potentially coupled with learning Marge was the one behind the Evan cheating rumor while Teresa was (at thar time) the puppet who mentioned it on camera, made her see them both a bit differently.

hottesthw · June 5

On 6/3/2024 at 9:51 PM, ww92 said:

Also per Melissa's Old Nose that information was dug up and released at the request of Teresa, Luis, Jennifer A. and Teresa's slimy lawyer Jim Leonard

I have been a HW watcher since the beginning of time. Bloggers don’t need anyone to request that they find info on anyone. It’s much like mainstream news channels nowadays, a race to be the first to uncover something, anything, about the new person. If they get it right it’s like a badge of honor, and if they’re wrong and destroy someone’s life in the process, oh well better luck next time. Melissa’s nose is full of shit.

Yours Truly · June 5

16 hours ago, snarts said:

Teresa's not stupid, she just processes information slowly. It takes her time to absorb & respond. Unfortunately, she was also super reactive, which means she'd too quickly get irritated/angry and attack. The cast was able to use that & manipulate her reactions for so many years.

The combination of age, prison, therapy & Louie have all helped her become less reactive. While she's never going to be quick-witted or eloquent, keeping her cool and walking away when necessary has helped her. Melissa/Marge/Rachel are frustrated because they're no longer able to easily trigger her.

I think Jackie realized Marge viewed her as a number, a soldier, vs. a true friend. And, when Jackie lost her FT cast status, she became even less a priority (e.g. siding with Danielle). That, potentially coupled with learning Marge was the one behind the Evan cheating rumor while Teresa was (at thar time) the puppet who mentioned it on camera, made her see them both a bit differently.

I was really going to try and tackle what you explained sooooooo WELL! Yes, Teresa isn't stupid she processes slowly and the cast has continuously taken advantage of that and manipulated her misspeaks and misunderstanding to make her out to be this monster she really isn't.

Can she be nasty? Yup, but that's the job requirement of the show. Does she have a temper? Yup but again there's a reason she's top dog on this franchise. THE DRAMA.

Again, there was a time where I really couldn't stomach Teresa but over time I've been able to lean back into her corner, mainly because I don't like just how normalized it has become to be so cruel to her. Not to mention, I never like a gang up especially when you have someone who has displayed A LOT of effort to minimize engaging in warfare. In earlier seasons her fuse got lit and she gladly exploded but over the years that has changed.

The blatant anger the others show at Teresa trying not taking the bait anymore is just so distasteful to watch and since she really isn't giving them much (aside from the Fuda commentary, come on, she's not gonna succeed in staying shut EVERY time, LOL). Now they have to shift their angle and their aim to the people who associate with Teresa to see if that drags up some confrontation. Now it's about Jen Fessler, Jackie, Jen A and anyone that is on speaking terms with Teresa. They know they can't come at Delores cause she ain't gonna play their game. Rachel and Danielle are the newbies that don't hold that much weight so having them as allies isn't really an achor to the show so Melissa and Marge are extra mad and it shows. LOL.

Yours Truly · June 5

10 hours ago, hottesthw said:

I have been a HW watcher since the beginning of time. Bloggers don’t need anyone to request that they find info on anyone. It’s much like mainstream news channels nowadays, a race to be the first to uncover something, anything, about the new person. If they get it right it’s like a badge of honor, and if they’re wrong and destroy someone’s life in the process, oh well better luck next time. Melissa’s nose is full of shit.

Exactly, these wack attempts at pinning some big ole investigation on Louie and Teresa about the rest is another tactic to manipulate. Teresa and Louie answered poorly to that attack which made them look sketch and gave the others side sound bites to throw back at them that help make the allegations against them stick to some.

Marge and the Fudas are still speaking in terms that suggest they PROVED Louie did what they accused him off at the reunion, thus keeping that narrative alive. Not many really buy it but it still gives the Fudas some momentum to work with in this new attempt at taking Teresa down since that's their whole beef this season. Teresa came for her family. This ridiculous carry over from last season has now given birth to Teresa's "he's a drug dealer" narrative so now we have THAT. Uggghhh. Like I said Teresa won't succeed every time and she gave them that bit to run with now.

Thing is, this season is proving just desperate the cast is to drool over any morsel Teresa gives them. Had she not called Fuda a drug dealer the dumb shit from last season would have probably fizzled out and they would truly have NOTHING to blow out of proportion. I really don't think New Jersey is going to make it another season without a HUGE reboot. Oh well.

Edited June 5 by Yours Truly

retired watcher · June 5

On 6/4/2024 at 10:20 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

O.M.G! If that is the case couldn't they just deal with a partnership and get divorced, I have to believe there have been other married couples that have been in business together, divorce and still run the business as partners. But O.M.G. if that is true the skeletons in the closets in New Jersey are many and strange.

Delores has a type, nice guys but totally unavailable for matrimony.

If they own illegal business together which has been rumored, it would be hard to disconnect because they would be found out. Also, some men stay married so they don't have to marry their new partner. It also gives Paul and Delores a story line.

kristen111 · June 5

Watching again. Teresa is always saying “when I was in college”. So, she was in college? Where and for how long. Does she have a degree of some kind?

Melissa is changing course. That eye rolling every minute was uncalled for. We get it. Joe Gorga has zero going on for him. All his “schticks” have been used up. Thank God as he’s disgusting.

SweetieDarling · June 5

20 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I like Delores, but for all her talk about being an independent woman she’s never really been one. Frank Sr. paid all her bills for years after the divorce. He helped set up her business and renovate her house. David built his house too and I think Delores was helping him decorate it. Not she’s playing lady of the house in Paulie’s house. She’s always been a kept woman in one form or another. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, she’s done a fabulous job raising her kids and holding her relationship with her children’s father together. But let’s not say it isn’t so.

⬆️This! ⬆️

Also, I'm not convinced that she wants marriage -based on the partners we've seen her with. And I don't understand why it's so important to the other women. If she's comfortable in their arrangement, why nag her and Paul and cause issues that weren't there?

Chatty Cake · June 5

Margaret looks like she’s going bald. She must have ruined her real hair with all the fake. Also I find it sad that Marlena is still stuck working for her. She seems old to be a housekeeper. I get that Margaret won’t hire anyone young around Benigno but this one should get to retire in the near future.

ichbin · June 5

23 hours ago, snarts said:

Teresa's not stupid, she just processes information slowly. It takes her time to absorb & respond. Unfortunately, she was also super reactive, which means she'd too quickly get irritated/angry and attack. The cast was able to use that & manipulate her reactions for so many years.

The combination of age, prison, therapy & Louie have all helped her become less reactive. While she's never going to be quick-witted or eloquent, keeping her cool and walking away when necessary has helped her. Melissa/Marge/Rachel are frustrated because they're no longer able to easily trigger her.

This is one of the best descriptions of her I've seen.

I've always suspected some form of processing issue is at play, probably because she so much reminds me of one of my kids with diagnosed LD issues. Unfortunately, slow to process gets mistaken for a lack of intelligence which is not the case.

ZettaK · June 6

On 6/3/2024 at 7:53 AM, Baltimore Betty said:

No way did Frank buy an 11 carat diamond ring, depending on the quality it could cost as much as 1.5 million dollars, Frank does not have that kind of money to throw around and still be able to buy a house. Lab grown could be had for about $125,000 which is still a bit pricey, I smell a cz, all flash no cash.

And I'm sure he will be paying for installments for the rest of his life!

ZettaK · June 6

On 6/3/2024 at 7:50 AM, MsMalin said:

Theresa looked very pretty at last years reunion with her shorter hair.

The NJ accent was in full force last night. I'm not sure how much more of that I could have listened to and I'm originally from Jersey.

Margaret kills me. She cheated on/ dumped Jan and Jackie's is the bad guy???

I'm another one who agrees that Teresa looked very pretty at last year's reunion. Beautiful shorter hair, soft makeup, less fillers. We could compare with how she looks now (eg. at Bill Aydin's office during the treatment) because Bravo showed a short clip....

RecoveringLawyer · June 6

20 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Watching again. Teresa is always saying “when I was in college”. So, she was in college? Where and for how long. Does she have a degree of some kind?

Teresa has an associates degree in fashion merchandising and marketing from Berkeley College in NJ. It's a commuter college, no dorms or anything.

I agree with the other poster who said she probably has a processing disability/LD that wasn't diagnosed because immigrant parents are generally loathe to do that kind of thing.

Chatty Cake · June 6

1 hour ago, RecoveringLawyer said:

Teresa has an associates degree in fashion merchandising and marketing from Berkeley College in NJ. It's a commuter college, no dorms or anything.

I agree with the other poster who said she probably has a processing disability/LD that wasn't diagnosed because immigrant parents are generally loathe to do that kind of thing.

When she mentioned Berkeley I thought she meant California but that didn’t seem right.
I do think Teresa is brighter than she seems. Melissa on the other hand doesn’t have a processing issue but often says dumb things yet enjoys calling Teresa stupid. The Fudas seem dumb too. A reformed drug dealer getting a piece of his family’s business that he had no part of building. He changed his last name so people wouldn’t know it was his thug self.

JenE4 · June 8

On 6/6/2024 at 9:34 AM, RecoveringLawyer said:

Teresa has an associates degree in fashion merchandising and marketing from Berkeley College in NJ. It's a commuter college, no dorms or anything.

I agree with the other poster who said she probably has a processing disability/LD that wasn't diagnosed because immigrant parents are generally loathe to do that kind of thing.

On 6/6/2024 at 11:25 AM, Chatty Cake said:

When she mentioned Berkeley I thought she meant California but that didn’t seem right.
I do think Teresa is brighter than she seems. Melissa on the other hand doesn’t have a processing issue but often says dumb things yet enjoys calling Teresa stupid. The Fudas seem dumb too. A reformed drug dealer getting a piece of his family’s business that he had no part of building. He changed his last name so people wouldn’t know it was his thug self.

As someone born and raised in NJ (and live the town over from Melissa and Theresa…presuming they still live in Montville/Towaco), I don’t think Berkeley is a real “college.” Back in the 80s/90s, they had commercials for it during Jenny Jones and Riki Lake and the like. I don’t think it was even an associate’s degree. The commercials were all like get a phlebotomy or auto repair certificate (and a scrolling listing of other available certificate programs) in 8 months.

Edited June 8 by JenE4

Baltimore Betty · June 8

10 hours ago, JenE4 said:

As someone born and raised in NJ (and live the town over from Melissa and Theresa…presuming they still live in Montville/Towaco), I don’t think Berkeley is a real “college.” Back in the 80s/90s, they had commercials for it during Jenny Jones and Riki Lake and the like. I don’t think it was even an associate’s degree. The commercials were all like get a phlebotomy or auto repair certificate (and a scrolling listing of other available certificate programs) in 8 months.

And VCR repair.

ZettaK · June 9

On 6/7/2024 at 8:29 PM, JenE4 said:

As someone born and raised in NJ (and live the town over from Melissa and Theresa…presuming they still live in Montville/Towaco), I don’t think Berkeley is a real “college.” Back in the 80s/90s, they had commercials for it during Jenny Jones and Riki Lake and the like. I don’t think it was even an associate’s degree. The commercials were all like get a phlebotomy or auto repair certificate (and a scrolling listing of other available certificate programs) in 8 months.

I don't think that Teresa had the mental abilities to go to a better college, that's why she is so proud of her daughters now. I checked and this college is by where her family lived back then (Patterson), something that would make her traditional parents feel better.

ETA: Teresa lives in Montville, Melissa moved to Franklin Lakes.

Edited June 10 by ZettaK

gwen747 · June 10

On 6/4/2024 at 1:01 PM, mostlylurking said:

Yep. I even a broken clock is right twice a day and Teresa was right. Everyone needs basics in their wardrobe and they always sell.

The problem is that at soon as people hear the word, "Basic", they assume someone is calling them a Basic Bitch. Danielle didn't even try to understand the context.

ZettaK · June 11

22 hours ago, gwen747 said:

The problem is that at soon as people hear the word, "Basic", they assume someone is calling them a Basic Bitch. Danielle didn't even try to understand the context.

Danielle is not intelligent.

Chalby · June 14

On 6/2/2024 at 9:05 PM, Stats Queen said:

Jackie is so disappointing, picking whatever side she thinks will get her back to the show full time.

I’m disappointed that she apparently does not actually have enough sense of her personal identity to sell herself to the side which she thinks would make her relevant again.

I always liked Jackie, but was also glad she is the friend rather than main HW. The season when she was bullied and Evan slandered bothered me because I like Evan and the two of them make me laugh. I. Sure she misses being a HW but she can offer much more as a friend.

Marg floored me when she complained that Jackie "forgot" it was the anniversary of Jan's death when she texted her. After initial condolences, why would anyone bring up that grief every year? Marg has changed into old and miserable

Chalby · June 14

On 6/3/2024 at 4:50 AM, Chatty Cake said:

Stand up to Margaret you weak ignorant idiot!
I hate that ratchet Rachel was making sense regarding Teresa. I’m sure Fugly Fuda was a scumbag but it was long ago and Teresa sounds like an idiot for saying she meant he was a drug dealer, not is. It doesn’t matter at this point. They hate her and she’s their only story.

I don't mind them this year simply for saying to Teresa's and Louie's faces what others have always been afraid to. For years people avoided calling out Teresa's hypocritical behaviour, until Jackie pointed out some basic facts which pushed Teresa into throwing out hurtful allegations.

But given this couple will call out BS to every T & L accusation, I'm here for it!

Chalby · June 14

On 6/5/2024 at 6:43 AM, Yours Truly said:

I really don't think New Jersey is going to make it another season without a HUGE reboot. Oh well.

Yes! From your post to producer's ear... new cast please

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