BB Past Players: Dr. Will, Maggie, Dan, Dick, et al.

[WiCkedWitCh]

I love watching past seasons and I am currently rewatching season 12 (I just finished season 6) as those are some of my favorites. I never watched the live feeds though and I wish so badly that I could. Can anyone give me any insights into some major things that happened during season 12 that were completely mis portrayed on the tv show? Brit and Lane's relationship especially. Some people say they really don't like Brittany but from the tv show I thought she was funny and snarky. I want to know everything! (Impossible I know)

[Turtle]

Dan's funeral. To this day I do not know what the man was thinking, and it was ridiculous that it worked, it should not have worked, but boy did it work.

 

My thoughts exactly!  I never understood how he pulled that off, and I remain in awe of the fact that it worked.

 

Does anyone know where you could watch old seasons of BB.

 

 

A bunch of them are on YouTube.  I've been watching season 2 there, and it's pretty fascinating how different it is.  A much more low-budget version, but it's kind of more interesting to watch because they were figuring out the strategy on the fly instead of just following previous seasons' strategies.  And, I'd never seen it before, and I needed to see what Dr. Will actually did in his first season to get such a great BB reputation!

 

I'm such a hypocrite with this show.  I was happy when they broke out the cout d'etat to save Jeff & Jordan, because I liked them more than the other side of the house.  And I was happy with the apparent attempts to save Janelle and Kaysar and the rest of their group, because I hated The Friendship (what a stupid name).  But I was furious at the rigging for Dick and what I think might have been the help given to Frankie this year, because Dick was such a, well, dick, and Frankie is the absolute worst.  Just something I noticed about myself - I only mind production manipulation when it helps players I don't like, but I really like it when it saves players I do like.  So, hypocrite!

 

Brings up a question - what do you guys think was the best/ worst/ most egregious/ most obvious case of production interference or manipulation or rigging?    

[choclatechip45]

 

I'm such a hypocrite with this show.  I was happy when they broke out the cout d'etat to save Jeff & Jordan, because I liked them more than the other side of the house.  And I was happy with the apparent attempts to save Janelle and Kaysar and the rest of their group, because I hated The Friendship (what a stupid name).  But I was furious at the rigging for Dick and what I think might have been the help given to Frankie this year, because Dick was such a, well, dick, and Frankie is the absolute worst.  Just something I noticed about myself - I only mind production manipulation when it helps players I don't like, but I really like it when it saves players I do like.  So, hypocrite!

 

Brings up a question - what do you guys think was the best/ worst/ most egregious/ most obvious case of production interference or manipulation or rigging?

 I agree with this post. I loved Jeff and Jordan so I didn't care about the manipulation. I think one of the most obvious case that never gets brought up is Erika's HOH that was taken away from her. From what I understand there was something wrong with the HOH competition, but it was obvious if Janelle had won the original HOH I don't think they would of re done it. I wanted Janelle to win All-stars so I did not care that much.

 

[Bob Sambob]

Brings up a question - what do you guys think was the best/ worst/ most egregious/ most obvious case of production interference or manipulation or rigging?    

 

Bar none, hands down, no question about it ... the reinstatement of the pairs twist in BB13 that saved Jordan and Rachel. I have no doubt that no matter what Porsche did with the Pandora's Box, it would have happened...

 

"Oh, you opened Pandora's Box? Your punishment is the pairs twist is back."

"Oh Porsche, you don't want to open Pandora's Box? Well, you should have. Because now, the pairs twist is coming back because you didn't."

 

From what I remember, the Arnold Shapiro era had pretty pure games. But with Allison Grodner at the helm, we have had "the Mt. Rushmore of producer interference" (TM Dom & Colin Podcast) ...

 

• Evel Dick (America's Player ABSOLUTELY saved him) ...
• Jeff and Jordan (the Coup d'Tat that fucked Chima) ...
• and Brenchel (Brendan getting voted back in by, ahem, "America," AND the pairs twist).
• Also, there was the Season 9 thing with the house's pet hamsters which I didn't see and still don't understand.

Edited August 26, 2014 by Bob Sambob

[choclatechip45]

 

Also, there was the Season 9 thing with the house's pet hamsters which I didn't see and still don't understand.

I completely forgot about the Hamster question. I think that was one of the production shenanigans. The funny thing was the houseguest that it screwed Sharon was the one who took care of the hamsters.

[PinkSprinkles]

Brings up a question - what do you guys think was the best/ worst/ most egregious/ most obvious case of production interference or manipulation or rigging?

 

1) Delaying BoB after Caleb threatened to sit out in an attempt to keep Frankie on the block and making the BoB a challenge that one person could easily win on their own. 

 

2) Frank's cancelled eviction. BS to this day. Ryan/Alison? is a close second since one of them still went home. 

 

3) Porsche's Pandora's Box that brought the return of the pairs twist PLUS the veto comp being an endurance competition that Rachel was the odds-on favorite to win given that Kalia and Shelley were her competition. 

 

4) Season 7 HoH re-do that stripped Erika of HoH and kept season 6 in power with another Janelle HoH. 

 

5) Jeff and his wizard power (even though it was hilarious!)

 

6) Sharon and the guinea pigs. :-(

 

7) Anytime Knock-Out is played as an HoH competition. (the game is unfair to begin with if a huge alliance is in power)

 

8) Any "timed" veto comps (as if Christine really beat Nicole by 30 seconds on the dot for POV...)

[Turtle]

8) Any "timed" veto comps (as if Christine really beat Nicole by 30 seconds on the dot for POV...)

 

 

You know, it has never occurred to me how easy it would be for production to fudge the timing on these.  HGs have no clock, and so only a vague idea of how long it took them (and I'd guess their perception of that is not very accurate), and viewers never see the comp in real time.  It would be so easy for production to shorten or lengthen times by a little bit to get the outcome they wanted.  Very interesting. 

Edited August 26, 2014 by Turtle

[Nashville]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[sugarbaker design]

Kaysar's first HOH. Quite frankly the only week he played a good game, but it was a really, really good week. He flushed out Howie and Rachel's partnership, and James and Sarah's, got them good and scared, then laid out his plan where they would work together (along with Janelle, who was fully on board) and take out the biggest threat - Cappy - with no one else knowing what was happening until after Veto. The chess Veto comp alone was fantastic TV.

 

 

Oh man, BB at its best!  I don't know the quote excactly but Cappy's "Am I staying?  Am I being voted out?" to Kaysar and Kaysar's "Yes!" was great TV.  

[Kris117]

Oh, man, I still remember how exciting that was, seeing all of that happen, and none of it going the Fiendship's way. 

[JerseyGirl]

I miss Janelle, she was my favorite BB player of all time.  I miss Hurricane (Beef Cake) Howie, Jedi Janie and Winelle - the ultimate showmance before showmance turned xxx!

 

Janelle: Well one thing's for sure. America hates them! (Nerd Herd)
James: Oh, for sure.
Big Brother: Janelle..thank you very much!
Janelle: YOU'RE VERY WELCOME, BB!

 

Janie is like "I dream of Janie" with her ponytail
"Can she just blink us into the final two?"

- Howie in DR

Edited August 26, 2014 by JerseyGirl

[Katesus7]

Oh, poor Shannon and the BS HOH question. I can't remember the full details, but Shannon was pretty much the only remotely likable person that season, and it was coming down to the nitty gritty. Final five? Anyway, it was a question HOH, and she was holding her own, and then they asked a question about how many "houseguests" were still there at a particular time? And everyone (meaning me) thought she had answered correctly, and the person still having a shot against her in the comp I believe answered opposite JUST to try to win (or get the tie?) and it turned out BB counted this stupid hamster as one of the houseguests.

I'm going to have to try to fins this on YouTube because I'm getting riled up all over again. But what it comes down to is Sharon lost HOH because apparently Hamsters (or gerbils, or whatever that damn thing was) count as "houseguests". But hey, BB got themselves a drug trafficker as the winner that season, so the joke is on them.

[choclatechip45]

It was Final Four and she was evicted. This is pretty unpopular, but I liked season 9 the cast was crazy the first few weeks had some of the best live feeds ever. The only season I have honestly been glued to the feeds for the first half of the season.

[Bob Sambob]

Wasn't there something about you could actually hear production shuffling through cards or papers and whispering LIVE ON THE AIR, which screamed of them looking for a way behind the scenes to ensure Sharon WOULDN'T win?

[PinkSprinkles]

Oh, poor Shannon and the BS HOH question. I can't remember the full details, but Shannon was pretty much the only remotely likable person that season, and it was coming down to the nitty gritty. Final five? Anyway, it was a question HOH, and she was holding her own, and then they asked a question about how many "houseguests" were still there at a particular time? And everyone (meaning me) thought she had answered correctly, and the person still having a shot against her in the comp I believe answered opposite JUST to try to win (or get the tie?) and it turned out BB counted this stupid hamster as one of the houseguests.

I'm going to have to try to fins this on YouTube because I'm getting riled up all over again. But what it comes down to is Sharon lost HOH because apparently Hamsters (or gerbils, or whatever that damn thing was) count as "houseguests". But hey, BB got themselves a drug trafficker as the winner that season, so the joke is on them.

 

It was FACT/FICTION HoH and the question was: Everyone knows Ryan and Jen and Jacob and Sharon were TWO preexisting relationships in the BB house, BUT there is a THIRD preexisting relationship in the house STILL in the house. (emphasis is Julie's, lol). 

[Katesus7]

Thank you!  That was it!  I just remember thinking "how the hell are these people supposed to know if these hamsters had ever met before being put into the house??"   It was such a stupid question. 

[choclatechip45]

I am re watching season 3. Even with a sequestered jury I don't see Danielle winning. I think she could of received Amy's vote. Josh & Gerry's vote are up in the air. Josh wanted to be part of the cool kids so I see him voting with Roddy. No way does Roddy, Chiara and Marcellas vote for Danielle to win. Obviously Jason gets her vote no matter what. I think at best it goes 4-2 or 4-3. The real wildcard is Gerry's vote.

Edited August 27, 2014 by choclatechip45

[SteveAC10]

 

Brings up a question - what do you guys think was the best/ worst/ most egregious/ most obvious case of production interference or manipulation or rigging?

Evel Dick - period. Not only did America's player save his sorry ass twice, it did so because the feeds Dick and the broadcast Dick bore little to no relation to each other. Feeds Dick was a volatile, misogynistic, violent 40 year old teenager who skirted the line of eviction for breaking the rules so many times we feed watchers lost count. Broadcast Dick was blunt and irreverent heavy-metal dad trying to make peace with his long lost daughter. The broadcast viewers lapped it up like hungry kittens and most of the feed watchers were horrified (I quit watching for 3 seasons after he "accidentally" burned Jen with a cigarette). Any real or imagined shenanigans about BoB comps planned weeks in advance (based on the off site reward) pale in comparison. 

Edited August 28, 2014 by SteveAC10

[Bob Sambob]

(I quit watching for 3 seasons after he "accidentally" burned Jen with a cigarette).

 

So did I. I tuned into the first episode of BB11 because I saw that Jessica (BB8) had a chance to return, but as soon as she lost that opening entry challenge, I was happily back out. I came back for BB13 because there was a rumor that someone big was going to return (I think it was Dr. Will), but it didn't end up being him. When I saw it was Dick, I just about quit on that spot but he was already rumored to have left, so I stuck around ... especially after I got a look at Cassi. I've been back in ever since, and a lot of it has to do with the Dom & Colin Podcast (the way those guys talk about "Survivor" and, in particular, "Big Brother" made me remember just how much I love the GAME of "Big Brother." I've found it makes it easier to overlook the sometimes disgusting behavior if you look at them as gamers first).

[Nashville]

If we can ask questions I could just google the answer to but never remember to do at a convenient time, what is Dan's funeral? Like someone above, I usually stop watching BB halfway through every summer, but I don't even remember a season with someone named Dan, so I must have overlooked this one altogether. Clearly it was one of the greatest moments ever-it's pretty much referenced every day in the spoiler thread!

 

Here's a YouTube link to Dan's funeral and a summary view of the resultant fallout, with a fair amount of commentary.

[PinkSprinkles]

Dan's funeral is why I love BB. This season is such a disgrace with people unwilling to make moves or rock the boat. If you're in jeopardy you better be doing everything can to stay- making deals, lying, and throwing people under the bus. I also don't give a crap about voting against the house. Be your own person and do what's best for your own game. Nothing worse than a fence-sitter or floater. It just kills the season. 

[Nashville]

Dan's funeral is why I love BB.

No argument here - in the BBAD multiverse, Dan is Da Man.

This season is such a disgrace with people unwilling to make moves or rock the boat. If you're in jeopardy you better be doing everything can to stay- making deals, lying, and throwing people under the bus. I also don't give a crap about voting against the house.

If I knew the plan was for a unanimous vote, I'd be throwing a hinky vote the other way just to keep everybody off-balance - but hey, maybe that's just me. :)

Be your own person and do what's best for your own game. Nothing worse than a fence-sitter or floater. It just kills the season.

I dunno; floating can be a legitimate strategy, if done correctly. There's a difference, though, between skillfully and consistently staying under the radar (what I consider a true "floater") vs. cowering in a corner, being afraid to make a move.

[PinkSprinkles]

I dunno; floating can be a legitimate strategy, if done correctly. There's a difference, though, between skillfully and consistently staying under the radar (what I consider a true "floater") vs. cowering in a corner, being afraid to make a move.

 

Staying UTR is an entirely different strategy than floating, IMO. An UTR player maintains loyalty to at least one person solidly (BB3 Jason, Survivor Two-Time winner Sandra) and should they fall into an HoH will not do whatever the largest alliance wants, but do what they want and make it seem like that's what the big alliance wanted. A floater has no real loyalty to anyone and will do whatever the head honcho wants them to do even if it's not good for their game (Aaryn last season). 

[Weetzie Bat]

Ok, I just spent the last two hours watching ALL those videos (the top BB moments) How did I miss both Dan seasons?? That was awesome!! Thanks!

[AndreaK1041]

I'm spending this lovely first day of a holiday weekend watching BB2 for the first time (can't believe I've never taken the time to watch it!). First impression: it's kind of dark. Like not lighthearted at all. Second impression: holy fuckballs, Will is so hot. He was hot on All Stars, but had a girlfriend, so toned it down a little. This is really something.

Eta: I made it thru episode 6. I can't believe there was a season 3 after this. Maybe it gets better? It's just super depressing and nothing happens at all. And could other people in the house hear them in the DR? They all seem like they are whispering which is quite the contrast to current casts screaming at the top of their lungs.

Etaa: watching this is also an interesting case study into Zach's Will mimicry. I wonder if he rewatched (or watched for the first time since he was a little kid during BB2) the season. Will successfully (though unintentionally) achieved the level of not being a target bc no one would ever vote for him in the end. However Will was obnoxious and arrogant, but did not run around raging like a lunatic like Zach. It seems over the years that subtlety is a key component of success in this game. Unless you're Dick of course and production is lining up the game like dominos for you.

Edited August 30, 2014 by AndreaK1041

[Mystery]

Someone mentioned Amanda on another thread, so I googled her and McCrae. I wasn't surprised that they'd broken up but I was amazed that recently McCrae and Jessica got back together. I still shudder when I think of McCrae lying around all last summer, filthy and picking at himself. I could never be in a relationship with him after seeing that. 

[larrybear]

Someone mentioned Amanda on another thread, so I googled her and McCrae. I wasn't surprised that they'd broken up but I was amazed that recently McCrae and Jessica got back together. I still shudder when I think of McCrae lying around all last summer, filthy and picking at himself. I could never be in a relationship with him after seeing that. 

OMG yes! Although I am ashamed to admit I followed Amanda on twitter and when she visited McCrae in MN she posted photos of his disgusting car, house and shower and it was every bit as horrific as you could imagine. If him and Jess were together prior to BB she is probably well aware of his filthiness.

[Eolivet]

Ok, I just spent the last two hours watching ALL those videos (the top BB moments)

 

I've watched several, including Keesha's birthday party -- and what struck me is at least compared to this season, how few DR segements there were. Keesha's birthday party happened with only a couple DRs from Jessie to set the scene and one from April to give her POV. Nobody else felt the need to re-narrate what was being narrated. Same with (ugh) Dick and Daniele vs. Zach for final HoH part 1 (where Dick hung on for seven hours to prove his love for his daughter or something). One expository DR and then, the scene just played out. Whereas this year, I feel that there are DR segments every other minute: we see something and then somebody immediately explains it in the DR. Segments are edited less like a documentary and more like a news magazine (with the DR acting as the "correspondent").

 

I wonder what the impetus for change was. Did they think viewers couldn't understand the houseguests yelling at each other, and felt the need to always have the exposition fairy explain to the dumb viewing audience what was happening? Did they decide viewers didn't like the longer segments and wanted more DR segments (after, for example, Britney's humorous DRs became popular -- and not just confined to a gimmick, like Chilltown's DRs)? I just felt like in earlier seasons, I was watching more of the game as it actually unfolded as opposed to today, where it feels like we see a dramatized version of what happened, complete with extensive narration to shape the story.

 

I suppose I feel like if something like Keesha's birthday happened today, we'd interrupt the fight every few minutes with another DR: "I felt that Jessie had no right to eavesdrop!" "I saw Memphis making fun of them, so I had to mention it!" And then Dan: "I just wanted birthday cake, to be honest."

[methodwriter85]

 

Second impression: holy fuckballs, Will is so hot. He was hot on All Stars, but had a girlfriend, so toned it down a little. This is really something

 

He really was, especially towards the end of the game when he got a haircut and started slicking it back. I mean, Zach is cute, but he is just not on the same level of hot that Will was during that first season, so hot that despite your best judgement you want to bang the hell out of him. (See: Nicole.)

 

Honestly, Season 2 remains my favorite because it was so dark and twisted, and nearly everyone (save for the MILF mom who was the first pawn to go home in Big Brother as well as Kent) was so backshit crazy.

 

The Justin expulsion remains the craziest one I've ever seen in this game. Willie Hantz's didn't even compare.

Edited September 1, 2014 by methodwriter85

[AndreaK1041]

Still enjoying my BB2 marathon.  I loved the PB&J competition where they were offered money.  I can't believe Will wouldn't take $7,500.  I guess good move, since he ended up with $500K. I like the paranoia something like that breeds.  And it's so simple! S16 needs less bells and whistles and more psychological warfare.

[Kris117]

I looked at the clips of Justin's expulsion, and all that led up to it, and I remember clearly how disturbing that all was. I wasn't following the feeds back then, but I also remember being disgusted at Mike Boogie getting all teary about not being able to say goodbye to Justin. Justin should have been kicked out before it got to the point of holding a knife on someone. 

 

I realized that I recognized and could name everyone in the clips. That's one of the few seasons I could do that with. 

 

I had forgotten about Kent and Bunky. One of the nice things of the season was the development of their friendship, which seemed very unlikely at the start of the season. 

[AndreaK1041]

Can someone explain what happened at the end with the hot tub and banner plane?  Big Brother contacted Nicole's husband about something her and Will did?  That was not very well explained, and the video of that episode is missing the last 20 minutes.

[Kris117]

Here's a short clip of that part of the show. 

 

Nicole, Will, and Monica were out in the yard competing for HoH. It was an endurance comp, and they had to hold onto their key in the elimination wheel. A banner plane flew overhead, saying, "N & W in hotub Im betrayed & hurt. J," supposedly sent by Nicole's husband Jeff. I'm not sure if it was actually from her husband, or just someone trying to stir up trouble. The entire group had been in the hot tub the night before, with Nicole and Will sitting next to each other, and that was seen on the feeds. 

 

Nicole was very upset. After the HoH comp, she spent the night crying and wondering if she needed to leave the house to save her marriage. The next day, another banner plane flew over the house, with a code on the end that proved it was from Jeff, saying that he loved her and wanted her to stay and get Will out. 

 

I got the details on the banners from recaps of Episode 25 and Episode 26 TV.com. 

[AndreaK1041]

Thanks. There is a weird line where someone says BB did the right thing by contacting her husband and there was never proper context given. Seems like they had banner planes all the time that season!

[methodwriter85]

Which of course, got shut down because of 9/11.

 

I remember in season 1, there was some woman who apparently broke into the studio and was trying to give them messages. I'm sure that was probably fake and an attempt to spice up a pretty boring season.

 

Speaking of season 2 psychological warfare, Shannon leaving potato chips in Autumn's bed as a means of telling her she's fat was pretty damn hilarious even though you felt bad for how crazy Autumn was. Autumn very rightfully went to therapy after the show.

[AndreaK1041]

I bet several of them went to therapy! I thought it was very interesting how Bunky very specifically called out Hardy for being "at least 20%" gay and he was 100% correct. This season, just tonight, Frankie did the same about Cody. Time will tell I suppose!

[choclatechip45]

Dani Donato said on the live feeds during BB13 that most of the cast of BB8 went into therapy after the season is over. I have a feeling most Big Brother contestants go into therapy after their season is over.

[AndreaK1041]

Reality TV is such a jolt of self reflection plus public judgment... I bet it's true a lot! Even the barely TV fame whore pointless Bachelor in Paradise has an on site psychologist in Mexico. I think BB has someone who regularly chats with people in the DR. I sort of remember previous season's HG talking about it.

Maybe it's for the best for the BB8 cast though. Several of them needed therapy before entering the house. I wonder if Amber has stopped crying to this day.

[Kris117]

Following a link to a BB clip on YouTube is almost as deadly as following a link to TV Tropes. I watch one clip, and then I glance at the suggested clips at the side, and click on those. I've even watched a couple from the UK BB. 

 

I also find it interesting that, even though I can't always remember houseguests' names, I immediately remember how I felt about them, and how that feeling changed or didn't during the season. It's a visceral thing, requiring no thought. 

[choclatechip45]

 

Maybe it's for the best for the BB8 cast though. Several of them needed therapy before entering the house. I wonder if Amber has stopped crying to this day.

Probably not she's been arrested I think three times since BB8.

[AndreaK1041]

Probably not she's been arrested I think three times since BB8.

Ah. Did not know. She was like the precursor to S9 with substance abuse issues abound. Edited September 2, 2014 by AndreaK1041

[choclatechip45]

 

Ah. Did not know. She was like the precursor to S8 with substance abuse issues abound.

She was unstable. I felt so uncomfortable watching her during that season. I thought she would snap any minute. I did get a laugh how much she detested Dani and Jen at the end. Who would of thought the following three things would happen after season 8.

Dani Donato would become best friends with Eric Stein

Jen Johnson and Nick would date

Jen Johnson would attend Dani Donato's wedding.

 

[AndreaK1041]

Eric Stein is one of my biggest hopes for All Stars 2. I know a lot of people hated the America's Player twist, but I thought he handled it as well as he possibly could. Did he get any bonus money for that at all?

[choclatechip45]

 

Eric Stein is one of my biggest hopes for All Stars 2. I know a lot of people hated the America's Player twist, but I thought he handled it as well as he possibly could. Did he get any bonus money for that at all?

I couldn't stand Eric Stein, but if anyone deserves to be on All Stars 2 he does. I would assume he got the money he earned through his tasks. If I remember there was no America's Favorite because of the America's Player Twist.

[Bob Sambob]

Eric Stein is one of my biggest hopes for All Stars 2. I know a lot of people hated the America's Player twist, but I thought he handled it as well as he possibly could. Did he get any bonus money for that at all?

 

I think he won something like $40,000 for the tasks he completed.

[methodwriter85]

I feel like an All-Stars 2 season is coming up, but knowing my luck, they'd probably bring back fucking Amanda Zimmerman because even though she said many offensive things in the house, they never aired it like they did Aaryn.

 

Honestly, I'd want Ginamarie back, so she can turn the tables on Caleb and stalk the shit out of him.

 

I don't think an All-Stars 2 season would have that many people from the earlier season- probably since about season 11 or so. You just KNOW that Jeff and Frank, Grodner's favorite pets from this decade, would come back.

 

I would love for the people from the older seasons to come back, but save for Chicken George, I can't see that happening because of the age thing. You can tell how much it killed Mike Boogie to be the "old guy" of the house.

 

Even Nakomis and Diane would be in their early 30's by now.

Edited September 2, 2014 by methodwriter85

[choclatechip45]

 

 

I don't think an All-Stars 2 season would have that many people from the earlier season- probably since about season 11 or so. You just KNOW that Jeff and Frank, Grodner's favorite pets from this decade, would come back.

 

I think Jeff has said he will  not come back a third time because its clear he's not very good at the game.

 

Even Nakomis and Diane would be in their early 30's by now.

Wow. Both of them were 21 & 22 when their season aired. I read Diane is married now I wonder what Nakomis is up too.

 

ETA I could see Amanda becoming like Rachel Reily unpopular the first time and fan favorite the second time.

Edited September 2, 2014 by choclatechip45

[AndreaK1041]

Me too about Amanda. I am very curious about All Stars 2 bc so many people have already played 2-3 times. To me, Rachel, Brendan, dick, Daniele, Dan, Jordan, Britney, Jesse and Jeff are all off the table. PreAll stars 1 also seems unlikely. So who is left? Amanda definitely. I hope they do it like last time where fans get to vote and producers get to choose some too. I would live Frankie to not get picked. Hahaha.

I'd like to see Eric, Jen Johnson, Chelsia (who I think is not crazy now), both Zachs, Amanda, Helen, Ian, Devin... I have to think more. I rally enjoyed all stars 1 but I don't know if that was just bc I really like Will and Janelle and they made it so far, or if it is actually good to have all returning players.

[choclatechip45]

 

I'd like to see Eric, Jen Johnson, Chelsia (who I think is not crazy now), both Zachs, Amanda, Helen, Ian, Devin... I have to think more. I rally enjoyed all stars 1 but I don't know if that was just bc I really like Will and Janelle and they made it so far, or if it is actually good to have all returning players.

Ian has said he asked Chelsia during his pre season interviews if she would do All Stars 2 and she said  no way. I hope it is the same as the first all-stars producers choice and fan choices.  I wouldn't mind as the twist they brought someone in during week 3 or 4 who did not get chosen. All these Big Brother people seem to know each other in real life. I do think Frank is a guaranteed slot. I would not mind seeing BB11 Laura I know its highly unlikely, but she seemed to know the game.

Edited September 2, 2014 by choclatechip45

[AndreaK1041]

I agree Frank is a lock. I just do not like him. :) I think Gina Marie will also make it. They can't have all favorites though! I also fear Elissa, Jeremy, or either Natalie could make it. Yucky.

I wonder if the All Stars get higher stipends? On Survivor they get $25K just for showing up as All Stars, but BB is a much cheaper show.

This show has virtually no diversity, but maybe they would also like to keep their 1 minority houseguest? Or maybe even more than one? That would be a twist!