BunnySlippers September 20, 2016 Share September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Jellybeans said: ...and, how the story ends which will not be revealed tonight. You know they will show her leaving right at the end of the episode. Welcome! I agree. They're going to drag it out, just like they did with the Heather/Derek decision. 4 Link to comment
pinkelephant3 September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 http://www.inquisitr.com/3526867/huge-married-at-first-sight-spoilers-sonia-granados-niece-reveals-if-nick-and-sonia-split-or-stay-together/ Nick admits he's not attracted to sonia...wonder why type of woMAN hes attracted to... 3 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 "It is obvious that this is her niece and that a huge spoiler just got out. She is only around 13-years-old, so she probably didn’t know better than to post this, but you know it will be coming down soon." I have to say that when I see things like this said it annoys me. Sorry but that age is not stupid and knows exactly what they are doing when saying things like that or putting out a spoiler. My 14 yr old has known forever what that is and how to do it though. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a reason for putting it out there. Maybe she couldn't stand Nick or saw how he was to Sonia on the show and got sick of some of the comments from people. No matter what though any grown adult reading boards or SM should know there is the chance of running into a spoiler and if they can't handle it there is something wrong there. IMO saying she ruined the show for them and can't watch anymore seems over the top. 3 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Evil Queen said: "It is obvious that this is her niece and that a huge spoiler just got out. She is only around 13-years-old, so she probably didn’t know better than to post this, but you know it will be coming down soon." I have to say that when I see things like this said it annoys me. Sorry but that age is not stupid and knows exactly what they are doing when saying things like that or putting out a spoiler. My 14 yr old has known forever what that is and how to do it though. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a reason for putting it out there. Maybe she couldn't stand Nick or saw how he was to Sonia on the show and got sick of some of the comments from people. No matter what though any grown adult reading boards or SM should know there is the chance of running into a spoiler and if they can't handle it there is something wrong there. IMO saying she ruined the show for them and can't watch anymore seems over the top. Agreed. I mean seriously after the honeymoon did anyone think Nick and Sonia were going to make it? Furthermore, this isn't the Walking Dead, it's MAFS with real people, who have real families who know what's up etc. the truth was bound to get out before the season fully aired. Edited September 21, 2016 by Enero 5 Link to comment
HZAnita September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, Enero said: Agreed. I mean seriously after the honeymoon did anyone think Nick and Sonia were going to make it? Furthermore, this isn't the Walking Dead, it's MAFS with real people, who have real families who know what's up etc. the truth was bound to get out before the season fully aired. *sigh* 3 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) Oh wow. I kind of knew Sonia and Nick's secret was that they had sex. Now the question is when did they have sex. And if true, that means both Nick and Sonia were lying in their THs or the producers were just replaying the THs where they said they hadn't been intimate. It was probably the latter. The sex must've been cold because they weren't even lukewarm on the show at anytime. I mean not even touching or kissing or anything. Edited September 21, 2016 by Enero 5 Link to comment
BunnySlippers September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Maybe Nick apologized later and Sonia went back and that's when they had sex? Or was it clear from her chat with the pastor that they'd had sex before the fight and her moving out? Link to comment
1992austenlover September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 1 minute ago, BunnySlippers said: Maybe Nick apologized later and Sonia went back and that's when they had sex? Or was it clear from her chat with the pastor that they'd had sex before the fight and her moving out? I think I just saw a preview (on A&E) where Sonia said something along the lines of "I shouldn't be treated like that given what happened" (I'm deeply paraphrasing here), prompting the pastor to ask her what happened...which led her to reveal that she and Nick had sex. Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 I think they either had sex on the honeymoon. Or the night they did the wine tasting and the get to know you drinking game afterwards. Again, I don't think the earth moved for either of them. Though Sonia was hurt by Nick's comments he didn't break her down. Despite the sex, it doesn't seem like she felt very connected to him. 2 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Enero said: I think they either had sex on the honeymoon. Or the night they did the wine tasting and the get to know you drinking game afterwards. Again, I don't think the earth moved for either of them. Though Sonia was hurt by Nick's comments he didn't break her down. Despite the sex, it doesn't seem like she felt very connected to him. Wouldn't be surprised if it was drunk sex either. Seems to be the only way it would happen with him too. Which if they really did, those comments from him make him look so much worse. Plus sorry but not buying still that he likes women in that way. Maybe he was confused on things, plus drunk and gave it the ole college try. Now this is all blowing up left and right. Yet it was obvious from the get go he was never once into her at all. She seemed to just be trying but not to attracted to him really either. Edited September 21, 2016 by Evil Queen 6 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Evil Queen said: Wouldn't be surprised if it was drunk sex either. Seems to be the only way it would happen with him too. Which those comments from him make him look so much worse. Plus sorry but not buying still that he likes women in that way. Maybe he was confused on things, plus drunk and gave it the ole college try. Now this is all blowing up left and right. Yet it was obvious from the get go he was never once into her at all. She seemed to just be trying but not to attracted to him really either. Agree on all fronts. I mentioned this in the episode thread, but to me his comments about not having ever lived with a "significant other" seemed telling to me. I'm leaning more towards him being gay. I'd also argue that he's never had a real relationship in his life. IMO any one who has would not act the way he's acted with Sonia, even if they weren't into the person. At times he's come off completely juvenile and green a man (or woman) experienced with romantic relationships just wouldn't come off this way. Edited September 21, 2016 by Enero 4 Link to comment
amola September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 My bet would be on the date night or maybe after the tantric thing;). I actually think he may have liked her at the beginning and they did have some cute moments on the honeymoon but maybe their personalities just didn't mesh. His drunken comments about marriage not being work were beyond naive. His tirade was awful and I'm glad she walked out on him. 6 Link to comment
BunnySlippers September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 24 minutes ago, 1992austenlover said: I think I just saw a preview (on A&E) where Sonia said something along the lines of "I shouldn't be treated like that given what happened" (I'm deeply paraphrasing here), prompting the pastor to ask her what happened...which led her to reveal that she and Nick had sex. 16 minutes ago, Enero said: I think they either had sex on the honeymoon. Or the night they did the wine tasting and the get to know you drinking game afterwards. Again, I don't think the earth moved for either of them. Though Sonia was hurt by Nick's comments he didn't break her down. Despite the sex, it doesn't seem like she felt very connected to him. Oh, I see. I think if they'd had sex before this fight, then it must have been even more hurtful for Sonia to hear Nick yelling how much he didn't like her and didn't find her attractive. Ouch. I'm glad, too, that she didn't let his comments break her down. But there's one thing that still bugs me: when Sonia was talking to her friend, didn't she imply that they hadn't been intimate? 1 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, BunnySlippers said: But there's one thing that still bugs me: when Sonia was talking to her friend, didn't she imply that they hadn't been intimate? I believe so, but we don't know when that conversation actually happen in context with the sex. The show is very good at creating narratives build on illusions. I wouldn't be surprised if that conversation happened right after the honeymoon. 1 Link to comment
Waterlilly September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Maybe Sonia didn't seem too upset about leaving because of the sex (meh), and was glad to have an excuse to go. Sure didn't seem like it took her long to pack, she had everything right there in "her" bedroom. She seemed more upset to leave the dogs. 8 Link to comment
Nikkerpotomous September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 I was thinking the same thing about the dogs, Waterlilly! Especially on her way out when she said "Sorry your daddy is a *******". His comment about a relationship "shouldn't be work" is just making me want to throat punch him. Obviously he hasn't ever lived with anyone or has a very in depth relationship because the best relationships take the most work. GAH! What a turd-burglar! I have to say my favorite preview clip is when the Pastor tells him that "marriage is not for Punks!". Good for him, it is time to stop sugar coating it. This isn't little league, you don't get a trophy just for showing up......*coughNICKcough* Anyone else think it is weird how Nick just had a "sudden change of heart", in about 1 day? 6 Link to comment
humbleopinion September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) At least the doggies, Dax and Lola look at Sonia when she talks to them, unlike Nick... Edited September 21, 2016 by humbleopinion Dogs names revealed 13 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 11 minutes ago, Waterlilly said: Maybe Sonia didn't seem too upset about leaving because of the sex (meh), and was glad to have an excuse to go. Sure didn't seem like it took her long to pack, she had everything right there in "her" bedroom. She seemed more upset to leave the dogs. Probably feels sorry for the dogs being left with him. LOL They probably were thinking "Sonia, WAIT!!! Take us with you!" 3 Link to comment
zxy556575 September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) Sonia seems to tell Pastor Calvin pretty clearly in next week's preview that "we had sex." Can you imagine how bad it must have been? Spoilered for crassness: Spoiler Like, Nick had some random morning wood and rolled over half asleep and kept his eyes closed the whole time. Ew! He accidentally touched boob! Edited September 21, 2016 by lordonia 16 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) lordonia LMAO at that Edited September 21, 2016 by Evil Queen Link to comment
Snarklepuss September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Enero said: Agree on all fronts. I mentioned this in the episode thread, but to me his comments about not having ever lived with a "significant other" seemed telling to me. I'm leaning more towards him being gay. I'd also argue that he's never had a real relationship in his life. IMO any one who has would not act the way he's acted with Sonia, even if they weren't into the person. At times he's come off completely juvenile and green a man (or woman) experienced with romantic relationships just wouldn't come off this way. Yes, ITA, we think so much alike - I'm also wondering if it wasn't Nick and Sonia who kept the secret about the sex, not the show. Maybe it was like @Evil Queen said and it was drunk sex that didn't go well esp. from his POV. More fuel for the gay fire if he was just getting drunk to force himself to "try it out". No wonder they didn't want to reveal it if it was that bad. Poor Sonia. My theory about Nick being bi-curious may actually apply after all. It certainly looks like a real possibility. The episode description coming up about them keeping a "secret" - now we know what it is, but I think perhaps the REAL secret is still Nick being basically gay. I feel very sorry for Sonia right now. She seems to be handling it well and with grace, but that has to have been HORRIBLE. 4 Link to comment
Cherrio September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 I will be happy with Sonia runs off with the Tantric instructor. 9 Link to comment
Stillhoping September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) Youch....this is getting painful to watch. Some time back I posred my theory....and it seems even more evidence backs it up.....I feel Nick has not had love or loving sex ever with anyone of any persuasion. I said before...I sense random hookups.. the pool bathroom...hotel trysts with tourists.. one night stands...hookup with air bnb renters. Now it seems booze was a part of it? I wonder if they had one awkward boozed up unfullfilling encounter? Notice she said "had sex" didn't. say Made Love. Crappy...unfullfilling... 2 minute wham bam..or a fumbling round of ED without viagra lol...a loveless quickie with no foreplay....and more unsavory scenarios. Yuck. I think Nick is a selfish lousy lover tho the dogs enjoy kissing him ewww. I remain remain hopeful for Lilly and Tom. Dr Pepper must be kicking herself and her new colleagues...they actually paired a couple who were a good physical match. A couple who seem to have shared interests...no substance abuse problems...who are willing to put in the so called work and have some fun. Even when they disagree they have addressed the problem without attacking character. I feel..hope...they make ut. So far all the drama has been producer driven. They seem like a real couple. Real couples want to please each other...include family. Lilly's birthday surprize...Tom holding Lilly and vowing to help her thru the surgery...yes the experts failed and let 2 nice compatable peeps in. Re Heather...shame she is blamed so much....dealt a whiney pothead. I feel Derek said a lot more nasty things on the honeymoon from hell..."Below the Belt". I still feel the producers allowed the very early split due to fact weed is still illegal in Florida. Lastly...have we collectively forgotten that Dereck and Heather married 2weeks later.. pulled in as another couple dropped out. maybe actually dropped out at the alter. Just refused the ceremony? Remember Sam and Neil were also replacenent 2nd choice cast members haha Edited September 21, 2016 by Stillhoping 4 Link to comment
StayingAfterSunday September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 13 hours ago, Snarklepuss said: I could find a lot of things not to love about Heather but I think her not being into the TV thing might show that she may have been a serious candidate. I can see her as someone who "tried everything to find love and came up empty-handed" and thought "What the hell, I'll apply for the show, nothing else has worked so why not do something crazy, you never know?". Like others have said, I thought she was more mature than Derek. I almost felt like it could have been me reacting to him. It was almost like a mother/son thing. Mr. Snarkle said that Heather seemed so much more sophisticated than Derek in a lot of ways and I agree, although she won no points with me for acting toward Derek like he had no class compared to her. She of the tacky plunging wedding gown. You mentioned the "mother/son thing" in your post, which got me thinking about the various matches we've seen thus far on MAFS. Have you noticed that the majority of the men - with the exception of Doug Henner - were raised without their natural fathers, and that many of them profess to having very close relationships with their mothers? On 9/16/2016 at 1:27 PM, Evil Queen said: Pepper was buddies with the guy that owned the rental they were in and that is how that happened. He was at one point on a HGTV show. But does make you wonder where they found him and Derek as well. We know Tom they got from FB. Which if Nick was found this way, he probably thought about how he could promote his businesses and nothing more. I still wonder if Dr. Pepper is related to Derek. Same last name, albeit a rather common one. Maybe she is his aunt? The shape of their mouths is similar, but I could be imagining that. On 9/19/2016 at 8:05 AM, Snarklepuss said: I know, it's like this bears no resemblance to what we're seeing on TV, in fact, just the opposite. She said she worried before the wedding that they might match her with someone "selfish" - Obviously she didn't know Nick very well when she did this interview! Maybe it was done after the honeymoon before "evil Nick" showed his face? She said she told him she was "in this for keeps" when she first met him. If he went on the show to promote a business or another agenda, that must have freaked the crap out of him! She also said she only had 2 weeks to plan for the wedding, which explains why the gown didn't fit as well as it should have. Same for Heather, I'm thinking. She made reference again to Nick's habit of eating "boxes and boxes of sweets" in the middle of the night. There's something disturbing and messed up about that, I'm sorry. Yes to the "boxes and boxes of sweets" observation. This seems to imply more than the simple sweet-tooth factor. I believe he finds comfort and a sense of wellbeing from the sugar, obviously, but I also suspect that he would be just as liable to substitute alcohol for the sweets -- in other words, they're likely interchangeable. I also think Nick is an emotionally immature young man who was raised by a mother (does he know much about his biological father?) who seems somewhat dominant in personality. Nick's verbal tirades are unleashed when he drinks. Up until that point he suppresses his anger -- I believe this is anger that has built up over he years and is partially directed at his mother, despite his claims of being a "mama's boy." There are mother issues at play here, and father anger, too. Sonia is lucky to be rid of him as these drunken verbal purges would become more frequent, with Nick using Sonia as a scapegoat for all those boxes of anger he has collected over the years. 4 Link to comment
holly4755 September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Very little on Tom and Lily. all we got was the birthday party? did I miss something? It was cute that he screwed up on Quinceanera. 21 hours ago, ctbabe said: Heather is friends with everyone except Derek. Not as close as the rest though How do we know this? she is never in any of the pictures with anyone. Link to comment
HZAnita September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, holly4755 said: Very little on Tom and Lily. all we got was the birthday party? did I miss something? It was cute that he screwed up on Quinceanera. How do we know this? she is never in any of the pictures with anyone. I've seen a couple of photos of her on Twitter with Lillian and Sonia. But I don't know if those were taking at some sort of cast party or something. Link to comment
Snarklepuss September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, StayingAfterSunday said: You mentioned the "mother/son thing" in your post, which got me thinking about the various matches we've seen thus far on MAFS. Have you noticed that the majority of the men - with the exception of Doug Henner - were raised without their natural fathers, and that many of them profess to having very close relationships with their mothers? Yes, I have noticed that and have been wondering how it is that so many of the male candidates come from this type of scenario. Makes me wonder if in some cases this leads to an overly strong attachment to their mothers and so they have trouble separating from them and including a woman in their lives. And/or they end up relating to other women as mothers (Howard Wolowitz anyone?). I think this can also happen in 2 parent families too depending on the relationship between mother, father and son. I have seen this play out in my husband's family too. 3 hours ago, StayingAfterSunday said: Yes to the "boxes and boxes of sweets" observation. This seems to imply more than the simple sweet-tooth factor. I believe he finds comfort and a sense of wellbeing from the sugar, obviously, but I also suspect that he would be just as liable to substitute alcohol for the sweets -- in other words, they're likely interchangeable. I also think Nick is an emotionally immature young man who was raised by a mother (does he know much about his biological father?) who seems somewhat dominant in personality. Nick's verbal tirades are unleashed when he drinks. Up until that point he suppresses his anger -- I believe this is anger that has built up over he years and is partially directed at his mother, despite his claims of being a "mama's boy." There are mother issues at play here, and father anger, too. Sonia is lucky to be rid of him as these drunken verbal purges would become more frequent, with Nick using Sonia as a scapegoat for all those boxes of anger he has collected over the years. Yes, re: the sweets and alcohol with Nick, plus I sense a "smother" in his mother. She seems nice but is possibly overbearing to her son which has its affects and resulting resentment/anger in him. Regarding the sweets, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar but in this case I think you are spot on about the tie in with anger toward his parents projected and scapegoated on a partner and resulting blow ups - YES - Can I triple like that? EXCELLENT! Edited September 21, 2016 by Snarklepuss Clarification. 1 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, StayingAfterSunday said: You mentioned the "mother/son thing" in your post, which got me thinking about the various matches we've seen thus far on MAFS. Have you noticed that the majority of the men - with the exception of Doug Henner - were raised without their natural fathers, and that many of them profess to having very close relationships with their mothers? I don't want to armchair diagnose but I also find it interesting that all of the guys, this season, (I don't know about the others because this is my first season watching) were raised by their moms with the father apparently being absent. I believe the ones who've had trouble this season were an only child too (Does Nick or Derek have siblings? I haven't seen any or heard about any being mentioned). I too wonder if this along with being raised by their mothers is having a negative affect on how they approach relationships. Though Nick says he's a mama's boy, the interaction we've seen him have with her seems to say otherwise. To me he doesn't seem very close to her. In fact, in the few scenes we've seen them share, he almost seemed annoyed by her. On the other hand, Derek does seem kind of close to his mom. Therefore, I can see the mama's boy title being applied to him more than Nick. Edited September 21, 2016 by Enero 1 Link to comment
Jellybeans September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Long-term, I think things are ok with Sonia and Nick based on their IG accounts. As far as the niece goes, she may be watching the show like everyone else. No idea if said niece is around daily. I suspect they are still together. Link to comment
bonniegoat September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 5 hours ago, StayingAfterSunday said: Yes to the "boxes and boxes of sweets" observation. This seems to imply more than the simple sweet-tooth factor. I believe he finds comfort and a sense of wellbeing from the sugar, obviously, but I also suspect that he would be just as liable to substitute alcohol for the sweets -- in other words, they're likely interchangeable. I also think Nick is an emotionally immature young man who was raised by a mother (does he know much about his biological father?) who seems somewhat dominant in personality. Nick's verbal tirades are unleashed when he drinks. Up until that point he suppresses his anger -- I believe this is anger that has built up over he years and is partially directed at his mother, despite his claims of being a "mama's boy." There are mother issues at play here, and father anger, too. Sonia is lucky to be rid of him as these drunken verbal purges would become more frequent, with Nick using Sonia as a scapegoat for all those boxes of anger he has collected over the years. Nick's father? I believe this may be him: http://bailbondcity.com/hendry-inmate-PENDERGRAST/1673 Link to comment
julyjen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 I really was rooting for them before this episode. Sadly Nick is acting childish in the way he started out saying "I like her a lot" or commenting on how he finds he attractive and then go have a full blown outburst about not liking her at all and finding her unattractive. He should of kept his mouth about how he "felt" when they turned out to be lies. I dont see how they can work through this to be honest. It seemed to me that he checked out way before his confession. And about her telling the pastor "we had sex" I'm a bit taken back. From the looks of things before it seemed like they had not been intimate at all. I am intrigued to see whether or not they actually did have sex or if it was editing. Either way next episode hopefully wont be all about Derek and Heather....I am over both of them. 1 Link to comment
Neurochick September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Enero said: I don't want to armchair diagnose but I also find it interesting that all of the guys, this season, (I don't know about the others because this is my first season watching) were raised by their moms with the father apparently being absent. I believe the ones who've had trouble this season were an only child too (Does Nick or Derek have siblings? I haven't seen any or heard about any being mentioned). So now, not only is it bad to be a single mother, raising a son; but to be a single mother raising a son ALONE. OMG. Why focus on just the men? What about the women? Didn't Lily's father leave the family when they children were grown? Aren't Sonia's parents separated? And where is Heather's family? Why haven't we seen them yet? If Nick and Sonia had sex, then why did Sonia keep saying that she wishes they'd get intimate? Unless she doesn't consider their sex intimate. Link to comment
bonniegoat September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, bonniegoat said: Nick's father? I believe this may be him: http://bailbondcity.com/hendry-inmate-PENDERGRAST/1673 Yup, I was right --> http://razor.charlesbullock.net/bullock/arthur/carol/kurt/kurt.htm Link to comment
julyjen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 16 minutes ago, Neurochick said: So now, not only is it bad to be a single mother, raising a son; but to be a single mother raising a son ALONE. OMG. Why focus on just the men? What about the women? Didn't Lily's father leave the family when they children were grown? Aren't Sonia's parents separated? And where is Heather's family? Why haven't we seen them yet? If Nick and Sonia had sex, then why did Sonia keep saying that she wishes they'd get intimate? Unless she doesn't consider their sex intimate. Nick also said that they had no been intimate. Maybe they both had agreed after it to keep it to themselves and not share that information. Who knows? It could be the editing. 1 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Neurochick said: So now, not only is it bad to be a single mother, raising a son; but to be a single mother raising a son ALONE. OMG. Why focus on just the men? What about the women? Didn't Lily's father leave the family when they children were grown? Aren't Sonia's parents separated? And where is Heather's family? Why haven't we seen them yet? No one said it was bad, just that it could potentially cause issues in how individuals deal with relationships. I know I've had my fair share of difficult relationships with men who were raised by single mothers (not all were difficult and again, nothing against single mothers. Many do an excellent job with their sons) and a lot of the issues did seem to stem from mother's being mother bears or trying to make their sons into their pseudo man of the house and as a result, the men either becomes a man child or just resentful of strong women in general. Quote Why focus on just the men? Didn't Lily's father leave the family when they children were grown? Aren't Sonia's parents separated? And where is Heather's family? Why haven't we seen them yet? The ladies certainly have their issues, but they at least, for the most part act like adults, not so much for the men, specifically Derek and Nick. With regards to Heather, we saw her parents at the wedding. They'd been together for 30+ years. Quote If Nick and Sonia had sex, then why did Sonia keep saying that she wishes they'd get intimate? Unless she doesn't consider their sex intimate. Because the producers of this show are damn good at duping the audience and making us believe the narrative they're telling is the truth by repeatedly airing the same THs over and over again that are saying the same thing. People then start to think, "Sonia is whiny and desperate to have sex with Nick." "Nick is shy and hasn't been intimate with Sonia, but each episode he says he's attracted to her." Or "Tom is really worried about the bus and Lily is harping on having children." If you watch closely, all the producers are doing is replaying the same THs over and over again in each episode to reinforce the narrative they've chosen to tell. It's rare that we get a "gem" like Nick's outburst last night, which was one of the few new THs we've seen since the episodes after the honeymoon started to air. Edited September 21, 2016 by Enero 6 Link to comment
Nikkerpotomous September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 5 hours ago, holly4755 said: Very little on Tom and Lily. all we got was the birthday party? did I miss something? It was cute that he screwed up on Quinceanera. I was also thinking how they were the primary couple in the beginning, but now that they are a well-functioning couple, they spend less time on them, and continue to focus on any dysfunction that they can find. If Tom and Lilly don't make it, the only thing I can think of is that it will be "the hottest fire burns out the fastest" situation. 1 Link to comment
ctbabe September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Enero said: believe the ones who've had trouble this season were an only child too (Does Nick or Derek have siblings? I haven't seen any or heard about any being mentioned). Derek and Nick both have siblings. 1 Link to comment
1992austenlover September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 New preview for next week posted on the MAFS Facebook page... https://www.facebook.com/MarriedAtFirstSight/ Apparently they had sex more than once. Interesting... 2 Link to comment
ctbabe September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 24 minutes ago, 1992austenlover said: New preview for next week posted on the MAFS Facebook page... https://www.facebook.com/MarriedAtFirstSight/ Apparently they had sex more than once. Interesting... I think Nick is lying. No eye contact. He is acting like an asss... 3 Link to comment
1992austenlover September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 Just now, ctbabe said: I think Nick is lying. No eye contact. He is acting like an asss... I'm definitely more inclined to believe Sonia, that's for sure. 4 Link to comment
Enero September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 We could be getting duped, but I agree. I think Nick is lying. He's ashamed he had sex with her or the sex was so bad he just wants to forget it ever happened. SMH. What a train wreck he and Sonia are turning into. At this point, they are worse than Derek and Heather. 4 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 9 hours ago, Stillhoping said: Lastly...have we collectively forgotten that Dereck and Heather married 2weeks later.. pulled in as another couple dropped out. maybe actually dropped out at the alter. Just refused the ceremony? Remember Sam and Neil were also replacenent 2nd choice cast members haha I don't remember seeing anything about them being a last minute couple. I think someone assumed it but there was on proof. We know they had picked a different man for Heather though but as was said before he wanted someone more ethnic looking so they didn't go with him. Its a shame that the ones that drop out we don't see. 3 hours ago, Enero said: Though Nick says he's a mama's boy, the interaction we've seen him have with her seems to say otherwise. To me he doesn't seem very close to her. In fact, in the few scenes we've seen them share, he almost seemed annoyed by her. On the other hand, Derek does seem kind of close to his mom. Therefore, I can see the mama's boy title being applied to him more than Nick. Agree, Nick doesn't come off mama's boy at all with how he is towards his mom but Derek for sure does. 1 hour ago, Enero said: No one said it was bad, just that it could potentially cause issues in how individuals deal with relationships. I know I've had my fair share of difficult relationships with men who were raised by single mothers (not all were difficult and again, nothing against single mothers. Many do an excellent job with their sons) and a lot of the issues did seem to stem from mother's being mother bears or trying to make their sons into their pseudo man of the house and as a result, the men either becomes a man child or just resentful of strong women in general. My husband was raised by a single mom. He actually had to step up at a really young age and take care of himself and his sister because his mom would be working to make sure they had a place to live and food. He doesn't act like a mama's boy (or we wouldn't have worked out). In fact because of how he has had to be growing up, working in his teens, and seeing his mom have some bad relationships...those are what have made him be who he is and show him who he did/didn't want to be like. He is a great dad to our kids and a great husband. Yet I have known men that were like what you are talking about as well. They are bitter about women or they are so close to mommy that they can't leave her or be to far from her because they still need mommy to take care of them...more so if their girlfriend/wife doesn't do it like mommy. Then there are those in between. I am sure it happens to those in 2 parent homes though too. 16 minutes ago, Enero said: We could be getting duped, but I agree. I think Nick is lying. He's ashamed he had sex with her or the sex was so bad he just wants to forget it ever happened. SMH. What a train wreck he and Sonia are turning into. At this point, they are worse than Derek and Heather. It is insane. Nick is just digging himself further and further into that whole of hole full of shit. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if he was so damn drunk that it wasn't good or barely happened so he is just trying to pretend it didn't happen at all or he will claim he was to drunk to remember. 1 Link to comment
ctbabe September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, Evil Queen said: is insane. Nick is just digging himself further and further into that whole of hole full of shit. Of course I wouldn't be surprised if he was so damn drunk that it wasn't good or barely happened so he is just trying to pretend it didn't happen at all or he will claim he was to drunk to remember. Sonia said MULTIPLE times. It's going to be hard to use the drunk excuse 1 Link to comment
Evil Queen September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 19 minutes ago, ctbabe said: Sonia said MULTIPLE times. It's going to be hard to use the drunk excuse Yes but doesn't mean he wouldn't try...IF he ever admits to anything at all. Not sure he even knows how to tell the truth unless drunk and angry though. Link to comment
BunnySlippers September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, 1992austenlover said: New preview for next week posted on the MAFS Facebook page... https://www.facebook.com/MarriedAtFirstSight/ Apparently they had sex more than once. Interesting... Wow. Just wow. What an asshole. Poor Sonia. 1 Link to comment
psychoticstate September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 1 hour ago, 1992austenlover said: New preview for next week posted on the MAFS Facebook page... https://www.facebook.com/MarriedAtFirstSight/ Apparently they had sex more than once. Interesting... I can't access Facebook right now but I'm not totally surprised. I'm not going to comment on Nick's preference or sexuality but it wouldn't surprise me if he decided why not give it a knock or two even if he's not in it for the long haul. (sorry to be crass.) Maybe that's why he was so defensive with Sonia. She wants and expects this to be long term, he doesn't and maybe he feels guilty for feeding into that expectation. Oy. 2 Link to comment
moonxyz September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 This is reaching Jerry Springer levels of foolishness. However, I can't wait to watch the episode as well as the FM fallout. 3 Link to comment
humbleopinion September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 I'll match your Oy. And raise it to Oy Vey. 8 Link to comment
ctbabe September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, psychoticstate said: I can't access Facebook right now but I'm not totally surprised. I'm not going to comment on Nick's preference or sexuality but it wouldn't surprise me if he decided why not give it a knock or two even if he's not in it for the long haul. (sorry to be crass.) Maybe that's why he was so defensive with Sonia. She wants and expects this to be long term, he doesn't and maybe he feels guilty for feeding into that expectation. Oy. Just for you Link to comment
Jellybeans September 21, 2016 Share September 21, 2016 (edited) Sonia is part of the problem. Remember her talk with her girlfriend- all her previous relationships had failed because she did not communicate. She walks out when she should talk. That is very unattractive... Maybe she figured that out- but Nick was not trusting what she was saying. I am not condoning his behavior but it seems to me the producers were all over them. Edited September 21, 2016 by Jellybeans forgot a t 2 Link to comment
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