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2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Yuck. Pale, bloated, waterlogged Heather laying in the morgue was not something I needed to see.

Though all that Botox made it easy to play a corpse!

Now we need to see if she was found bound up in those blankets from home to indicate that she did not voluntarily jump in the river, or she slipped out of the cocoon in the water, making it less obviously murder.

I wonder if Amy Lewis is a Detective now? Maybe her former boss Paul will ask her to look into it if TPTB won't allow Doug Davidson back on the show.

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So, Kyle's got the key to a "game changing moisturizer" at the very moment Heather is in desperate need of just such a thing.  Coincidence, you ask?  Oh, I think not.  Josh Griffith's latest labyrinthine tale of murder, deception, secrets, lies and skin care has begun.  Where will the dominoes fall?

Jabot is in peril of being the laughingstock of the industry because they don't have a COO.  That fact that people only get hired based on their DNA and/or declining mental acuity has nothing to do with it?  

While Jack Abbott dithers at Jabot, Billy Abbott dallies at Abbott/Chancellor, determined to,THIS time, prove all the people who've watched him mess up everything he's ever touched, that now he's just one big brainiac, oozing brain  matter out of every orifice not in constant use like his big mouth.  Nothing says "WOWZA" like handing a giant company doing fine for years to an ingrown pimple of a man who expects to be lauded simply for not destroying the company in record time.

Meanwhile, sitting at his desk in the Hell Mouth, Dr. Demento reads his lines off his computer, his phone, his carbuncles, muttering and mumbling about ruling all the giant businesses of Genoa City.  Every cheese platter will say NEWMAN or his name isn't Pennywise the Clown!

Glissade, that new, hip cosmetics company, previously run out of Paris but now headquartered in the Colby Cheese capital of the world, Genoa City, prepares to rise to the top like a container of Pillsbury Grands bursting open past its sell-by date.

Kyle has currently bested Audra by stealing that moisturizer recipe, but Audra is sure to come back with an unbeatable idea perfectly suited to Glissade in Wisconsin - dairy based beauty products. 

Think of it - yogurt-scented perfumes like Two Good Greek, Cherry Parfait Fruit on the Bottom, Bad Boy Blueberry and for those romantic nights, Chobani Dark.

Sour cream rubs to tighten up those sinking cheeks, a little large curd lotion for those living large, small curd for the teens.  It's an idea whose time has come.

Show is cooking with gas!  Just lean in a get a whiff......

Oh yeah, poor Heather.  I'm predicting right now that Paul is not going to make it to Heather's funeral, which I'm sure will be held at Crimson Lights and catered by Sharon (she has all those muffins all baked and ready to go), because he won't be able to shimmy out of his jeans in time to make his flight.  He'll probably do a pantless zoom.  Oh so sad.

One more thing

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Are Kyle and 

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Pepe Le Pew the same person?

Or do they just smell the same?

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So the writers/producers really did kill off Vail's acting career?  Yay!  Thank you, writers/producers for sparing us from Vail's annoying, breathless delivery & shitty hair-acting.  Sounds good to me.  Hopefully, the ensuing wah-wah-wah-ing won't last too long.

Man, Sharon certainly is honing her ability to give guilty looks, eh?

Ah, so Audra is fired?  Shockers!  Where will she land next?  Given her dust-up with Diane, guess she wouldn't be welcome at Jabot.  Sex pal Natey can't help her out cuz Devon can't stand her.  And her only friend in town, Sally, can't do much either cuz Summer pouts her head off whenever she's nearby -- and also can't stand her.

So what will become of Audra?  Maybe the GC escort service has some openings or available positions . . . 

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3 hours ago, Denize said:

I wonder if Amy Lewis is a Detective now? Maybe her former boss Paul will ask her to look into it if TPTB won't allow Doug Davidson back on the show.

Oh, okay, it hadn't occurred to me Amy Lewis might be coming back in that capacity. I figured she'd be telling Nate he has a half-sibling who needs a kidney, ha ha.

Re DD, allegedly he's been claiming on social media that he wouldn't come back even if TPTB begged him. So maybe Paul will be too upset about Heather's death to return to GC, and Daniel will decide to have Heather buried in Portugal.

Meanwhile, I like Audra and I'd hate to see her leave GC. I think she and Sally are good as besties since they're both sorta social outcasts in GC. Plus, every soap needs a resident Bad Girl who uses her feminine wiles to get ahead. Unless she's independently wealthy though (or Nate marries her, lol) I don't know how Audra can stick around much longer.

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Yeah, Kyle stealing the magic potion lotion was pretty lowball.  And it may seem like a big deal, but it's not.  First off, one product does not make a successful cosmetics/skincare company, let alone a stolen product.  And it sounds like it's still in development, so that's no guarantee of a hit.  Plus, Jabot can still come out with their magic lotion potion anyway & knock sales from Pissade's stolen version.  Dupes are all the rage in skincare.  Eh, yet another storyline not well thought out.

I'm not an Audra fan.  I make the same just-smelled-shit face everyone in GC does when she shows up.  But I do like her spunk & enjoyed her giving Diane a right-on reality check. I'm puzzled what Show is gonna do with her next.  And yeah, if this was 30 years ago, she would be wife #400 for Vic.  But since he can barely hold up his phone now & he starts (and finishes) every scene sitting down . . . uh, that ain't happening.

Oh Sharon, get a grip, hun.

Workin' Phyllis -- without her "cooperation"?  That sounds like a plan!

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15 hours ago, Denize said:

or she slipped out of the cocoon in the water, making it less obviously murder.

What if they found the blankets in the river as well, and when are they going to question how Heather could have sent messages to people from her phone after she was most likely dead, and if the pathologist's finding is that she had water in her lungs, that would mean that she was alive when Sharon tossed her in the river, but there would still be the blunt force trauma to her head to be explained . . . lots of questions to be answered.

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On 10/1/2024 at 12:48 PM, Sake614 said:

I disagree

Viewers in the early years of soap operas would find weekday distraction in the melodramatic presentation of the interpersonal tribulations of middle-class, laboring class, and smattering of rich, by the standards of the fictional localities, families that made up the majority of the characters, and the viewers believed in those characters - it's time for Y&R to transition from its 80s glitz phase with its tiresomely repetitive storylines and introduce characters the viewership can relate to.

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characters the viewership can relate to.

Let me rephrase - it's time for Y&R to introduce characters the viewership can care about.

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Shut up Sharon! Nick is making that face he makes when he is thinking with his brain. Daniel is grief stricken but he’ll also start to think AND he will tell his mommy who can’t wait to turn on her. Has she learned nothing from Ghost Cameron?

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Hey, it's Katie and Johnny.

TMW your 2nd ex-wife gives you worse news than she realizes, and it'll probably lead back to your 1st ex-wife in a terrible way. Poor Nick.

I think Sharon's doctor must be a quack if they don't realize she's a walking bundle of insanity right now. Was Sharon lying to Ghoul Cameron about receiving a nearly clean bill of mental health?

Lily, you are so dumb. You have no idea. Ugh though on Victor smirking at her like she's a kid awaiting a special toy he knows she ain't gonna get.

Yes, Lucy, it's all YOUR fault Heather is dead. Go jump into a bottle of vodka and then call Faith. You have a perfect excuse now.

MG certainly brought his A-game for his big Emmy reel moment. Daniel's emotional devastation after he spoke to Paul was almost palpable. Bravo.

Uh oh, did Lily accidentally put a target on Phyllis' back when she told Victor who Billy's COO is?

Victoria, take your "civil approach" and shove it up your hiney. You know Victor is in the wrong. Trying to use your kids to guilt Billy into folding on A-C was total b.s. and they unknowingly proved it. Hang tough, Billy.

(I'm rooting for Billy. What is this world?!?! 😱😱😱😱😱)

Wait, what? Victor and Lily think they can work Phyllis? HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH! Good luck with that, you morons.

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An Audra without an agenda is a dangerously loose cannon. Even if Nate is wrapped around her little finger, he has nothing to offer her business or career -wise. Methinks she has run out of available men dupes in Genoa City. Time to hunt up Tucker and polish up her wiles to lure him back to life in the corporate lane. His return to GC could coincide with the release of Ashley from her stay in "MaybeMartin's" Parisian asylum. 

Anything to put Tucker back into my life again. Ahem...OUR lives again, sorry....

 

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5 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

/ Dead//

OK, I GIVE UP.  Who the fuck is Paul?

Heathers dad. Paul Williams. He was a main character for years. Later appeared sporadically and now not at all

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@One Tough Cookie ...Others can do this better, but...old b-f of Sharon, baby-daddy of Heather, cult member with Sharon , former husband of Lauren, former husband of Cricket, former cop,  former PI, baby-daddy of Ricky with a deranged former client, pushed deranged son Ricky out of window to his death to avoid his own death, former stalkee of Phyllis, nicknamed "Paulie-Tight-Pants" by Preeverts for obvious reasons....so much more, but...

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6 hours ago, Peppermint said:

@One Tough Cookie ...Others can do this better, but...old b-f of Sharon, baby-daddy of Heather, cult member with Sharon , former husband of Lauren, former husband of Cricket, former cop,  former PI, baby-daddy of Ricky with a deranged former client, pushed deranged son Ricky out of window to his death to avoid his own death, former stalkee of Phyllis, nicknamed "Paulie-Tight-Pants" by Preeverts for obvious reasons....so much more, but...

AND proud wearer of the backward toupee!   Also, unintended father of Nikki's previously unknown child, Dylan McAvoy, portrayed by Block O'Wood Steve Burton, during one of his hissy fit sojurns from General Hospital, currently in the Witless Protection Program.

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Paul had an annoying mother, a cop father,  a priest brother(later played by Mrs Chancellor's real son), and sister Patty who was crazy about Jack and cats. He was married to Lauren. She put his naked picture in Playgirl. He ran a PI agency with Andy, President Gerald Ford's real son. He worked with Nathan Hastings, Nate's father. He was on the show almost the whole time. 

47 minutes ago, Peppermint said:

old b-f of Sharon, cult member with Sharon

You mean Nikki. Believe it or not, he never slept with Sharon. But Sharon joining a cult will probably happen. 

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Is it to much to ask for just once, that Jack or Diane know that vindictive and disloyal Kyle would snoop into their laptop? That they would plant false information to mislead him when he trying to engage in corporate espionage? He is such an idiot. He is trying to destroy the company his family owns in order to please the owner of the company where is an employee.

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See, @babyhouseman , I said others could do better than me....Paul & a blonde was all I remembered. And @boes, I did forget about Dylan. My Grandma was immensely proud of my cousin for being a TV Star. I was immensely embarrassed by his acting skills. 

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Oh Sharon, STFU & cool it, will ya?  Is Nick giving her suspicious looks -- or just going, "duh"?

So is the theft of the Jabot magic lotion potion a sign of Kyle's stupidity?  Sure, but more than that, it highlights the inexperience & incompetence of Diane.  She shouldn't be in the position she's in & the blame for that is solely on Jackie.  Billy got in a good shot at Jackie.  He is being over-run by his demanding shrewish wife.  The whipped dunce should be angrier at Diane than Kyle.

So will we see Paul & his wall-to-wall yellow head rug?  Eh, probably not . . . and who cares?  Still happy-happy don't have to watch Vail/Heather anymore.  Chelsea next, please?

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4 hours ago, Peppermint said:

And @boes, I did forget about Dylan. My Grandma was immensely proud of my cousin for being a TV Star. I was immensely embarrassed by his acting skills. 

Steve Burton is your cousin?  My apologies for slamming a family member.  

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42 minutes ago, Peppermint said:

No worries, I've done it myself. But never in front of Grandma. 🥴

Thank God for grandmothers.  They always see the best in us.

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16 hours ago, boes said:

AND proud wearer of the backward toupee!

This is something I gottta see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

16 hours ago, Peppermint said:

cult member with Sharon

Why do I absolutey believe this?

 

15 hours ago, babyhouseman said:

e was married to Lauren. She put his naked picture in Playgirl.

OMG, This makes getting  makes early worth it !

 

16 hours ago, boes said:

 

I hope the toupe guy makes it back for Hesther's funeral

 

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Guys, maybe I’m the one who is nuts, but despite actually being shown Heather on a slab I STILL don’t feel like it really happened. There’s just too much unbelievable stuff being overlooked, the way happens in dreams (no security cameras, superhuman strength, the coroner not mentioning the head trauma or no water in lungs, Lucy being suspicious of Sharp right away). Can ALL of that just be bad writing??

 

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 looks like I jumped the gun about the autopsy stuff. Still, that murder looked so fake I can’t convince myself it happened.

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Nope, Heather is dead.  Vail confirmed she's been fired.  She thinks she may get a call to come back someday.  Wouldn't hold my breath waitin' for that call, hun.  It took 'em 25 years to call J. Eddie.

Some really weak writing going on here.  So Heather's body is found, washed up by the river & NOBODY asks how she got there?  Not Daniel, not Lucy, not Summer & not Phyllis asks this.  In fact, the only one who does is Sharon, who Daniel accuses of being insane for sensibly (surprising for Sharon) asking about the details of how she got there.

And Phyllis's breakdown for someone she barely knew, who Daniel only got back together with a few months ago, was oddly over-the-top & definitely inappropriate.  Ah, but no surprise for Phyllis to be inappropriate, eh?  And in her tirade to Sharon, she conveniently forgot that Sharon had every right to be angry with Heather cuz her shitty parenting of Lucy led (if somewhat indirectly) to what could've been a fatal car crash involving Faith.

Sally's dangling earrings were cute, but they were reflecting light & were very annoying & distracting.  Oh no, are we really are gonna get Bally or Silly?  Meh.

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OMG the scene is taking place in a bar and MS makes the acting choice to wipe her snotty nose on her arm rather than grab a cocktail napkin. Maybe there wasn't one there but ugh that grossed me out.

Shallow note, Sally looked very pretty today. Great hair, good dress.

Poor Paulie Tightpants. He better find Dylan and keep an eye on him He's his last kid.

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Guess from the previews, we can assume that Sharon's frame-up of Daniel will lead to  . . . the GC trial of the century for Daniel?  Ugh, expect more high drama from Phyllis.  Ick.

And we're to believe there are NO witnesses to Sharon entering & leaving Daniel's building or apt.?  Not the first time OR the second time (while planting the frame-up)?  No neighbors, no dog-walkers, no joggers/walkers/hikers, no building staff and  NO CAMERAS ANYWHERE?  Er, huh?

Sorry, writers.  Uh, no, that's not the way it is in 2024.  Cameras ARE everywhere.

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@One Tough Cookie  As @babyhouseman corrected me, NIKKI was in the cult with Paul....the same cult that raised Cassie's twin Mariah.

And, yeah, Sharon would fit right into a cult.  

Since Sharon has shown by her cover up attempts that she knows right from wrong, will an insanity defense be denied ?? What's going to keep her out of prison ?? No one ever finding a clue ?? Not likely, with Chance back on the Job. 💞

The quickest job change in history...from COO to COP in 3-2-1...

And Lucy's sweater was beautiful and flattering.

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Maybe saying Cam told her to do it might help in her insanity defense?  Well, he can't help with an alibi . . .

Nice that Chance can just make a call & get back on GCP.  Did he call Vic?

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My score on Sally's bag = 10/10. Me want.

Hey, it's Chance.

Geez, I think Sharon needs to run in the opposite direction whenever she sees Daniel or Faith. She keeps acting lowkey weird around them.

Like Chelsea, Adam seems to have a hard time with the concept of breaking up. Two words, Sally: restraining order.

The jurisdiction where Heather's body was found wasn't the GCPD's but the Fates decided Sharon's ex-lover and former GCPD detective needed to get involved. Ruh roh.

FFS, Adam, walk away. You don't need to confront Billy every time you see him. And Chelsea doesn't require your services as a bodyguard.

Whoo chile, I was totally here for that fiery takedown Phyllis delivered to Sharon. She had all the smoke for Sharon's fake condolences.

Sounds like GC's coroner is putting together the facts about Heather's actual cause of death. Sharon might have to throw him off a bridge too, lol.

Alrighty then! Billy asked Sally out. Sorta. If the big A-C launch party even happens.

Summer suggested Lucy and Daniel come stay at the GCAC with her. Wasn't she supposed to be buying a house?

I guess Billy doesn't pay attention to news bulletins since he was blissfully unaware of Heather's sudden demise. Hey, William, it's okay for you to hug Phyllis in her grief but hail nah on any comfort sex. 🤨

Sharon planting evidence drenched with Heather's blood to make it look like Daniel killed Heather. Definitely didn't see that coming. < golf claps>

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Well, if it is a Dallas-like dream, please let Vail stay fired.  Is that why she's waiting for a call from producers to re-hire her?  She's banking on this being a dream after all?    Guess she'll need to keep up the Botox injections, especially if the call doesn't come for 25 years.

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On 10/1/2024 at 12:35 AM, Js Nana said:

There was a syndicated show called "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" which ran from 1984 through 1995 that had the catchphrase "champagne wishes and caviar dreams," interestingly, it was back in the early 1980s that Y&R transitioned into its "Lives of the Battling Billionaires" phase, from which it has yet to emerge - the "producers/studio heads/network, etc" need to wake up to the fact that what flew in the 1980s (aka "the me decade") no longer resonates in an era when most people are making sacrifices left and right just to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table - it's time to transition to storylines dramatizing the personal trials and troubles of Genoa City's middle-class and put the Abbotts/Newmans/Chancellors/Winters families in the background.

Particularly because they don’t even pretend to have the budgets to do “rich.” They don’t do a gala at the Colonnade Room, for example, they do it at the GCAC where people could walk through in their sweaty gym clothes. Adam is a business mogul with a 440 sq foot apartment. 

MS needs to lay off the self-tanner! 

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So lemme get this shit straight: Sharon just put her DNA and fingerprints alllll over the bloody clothes? What the everloving fuck?!?

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16 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Guess from the previews, we can assume that Sharon's frame-up of Daniel will lead to  . . . the GC trial of the century for Daniel? 

And GC has lost another lawyer. Will Brittany Hodges be back? Will Amy Lewis be a PI or lawyer?  Will Lucy's real mother pay her a visit? Chance is now free to be rehired as the one-man GCPD.

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9 hours ago, surfgirl said:

So lemme get this shit straight: Sharon just put her DNA and fingerprints alllll over the bloody clothes? What the everloving fuck?!?

Whose cabinet was she stuffing them into?  It looked like Danyell's liquor cabinet but I find it hard to believe she could break in there again. Has she wiped the bloodsmears off the back of her SUV yet?

Victor-Nikki-grandpiano's penthouse condo building should have security cameras, if not a doorman.

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43 minutes ago, Denize said:

Whose cabinet was she stuffing them into?  It looked like Danyell's liquor cabinet but I find it hard to believe she could break in there again. Has she wiped the bloodsmears off the back of her SUV yet?

Victor-Nikki-grandpiano's penthouse condo building should have security cameras, if not a doorman.

That is why this has to be a dream. Could they be this dumb? No way in 2024 is she gonna be able to drag a BODY wrapped up like a mummy (not stuffed in a crate even) out the door, down the stairs, out the door again through a parking garage, I assume, in the early evening with nobody noticing or a camera not catching her. lol. Ridiculous. (Not to mention there is just no way 50+ year old Sharon could carry Heather, about the same size, that way.) 

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4 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

That is why this has to be a dream. Could they be this dumb

You’re talking about Josh Griffith. So yes, he absolutely could be that dumb.

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On 10/2/2024 at 10:47 PM, boes said:

oozing brain  matter out of every orifice

. . . which explains why he leaves stains on every seat he sits on.

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On 10/2/2024 at 10:47 PM, boes said:

the Colby Cheese capital of the world

and playground for those international business giants, the Abbotts and the Newmans.

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Josh G should quit the show and rewrite Romeo and Juliet or Hamlet. Both were difficult to read (I was in high school) and tragedies.  Because what he is giving us right now is just miserable to try and get through. When viewers dread putting on your show; so rely on recaps to see what is going on....you have lost your audience. Even the sites on Facebook that are usually all-in on Show (and a lot of times pro-Phyllis) have turned. And now they are bringing back a character (someone who worked for Neil?) that I don't remember; how many viewers do? Because the "Claire" storyline has been so engaging? 

Does no one on CBS or CBS Daytime care anything about the ratings? Soaps seem to be dying but has anyone asked why they are? Same old writers or newbies that know nothing about writing for a soap opera. A few actors/actresses that are "overused". How about engaging plots, a light touch when needed, and a cast that is more balanced when it comes to storylines. Oh - and how about trying to clothe the actresses in cheaper but more a more realistic (better) wardrobe? Easier on the budget!

I am sorry to have gone on so long and...be such a Debby Downer. I remember watching this show in the teacher's lounge back-in-the-day; even the male teachers watched it. The plots may have been slow at times but did not insult the viewer's intelligence. How far we have come. 😥 

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On 10/2/2024 at 10:47 PM, boes said:

I'm predicting right now that Paul is not going to make it to Heather's funeral

I figured as much when Daniel called him to tell him that his daughter was dead, and his reply was to keep him posted on any developments.

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On 10/3/2024 at 4:46 PM, Chatty Cake said:

Nick is making that face he makes when he is thinking with his brain.

It's the same one he makes when he's constipated.

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1 hour ago, Js Nana said:

It's the same one he makes when he's constipated.

My thought exactly.  It takes a lot of work to get Nick's brain engaged, yet he looks like a Doofus!

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14 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

That is why this has to be a dream. Could they be this dumb? No way in 2024 is she gonna be able to drag a BODY wrapped up like a mummy (not stuffed in a crate even) out the door, down the stairs, out the door again through a parking garage, I assume, in the early evening with nobody noticing or a camera not catching her. lol. Ridiculous. (Not to mention there is just no way 50+ year old Sharon could carry Heather, about the same size, that way.) 

Yeah, I'm thinkin' this is a dream too -- and the reveal won't be for a long, long, long time.  They're gonna work this storyline but good.  Welp, we have gotten more than a few hints of this being a dream. 

First off, we've seen some of Sharon's dreams before.  And the long shot of Sharon dumping Heather's body off the bridge had a very dream-like quality.  Plus, her throwing the body over like it was a roll of toilet paper was beyond ridiculous.  Also, I'm pretty sure it's mandated now for ALL bridges to have cameras for safety reasons, so she should've gotten caught in 6 seconds.

OK, but if we're going with "Sharon's dream" (must we?), then what will happen next?  I'm predicting Danny & The Bug will come back to town, and The Bug will be defending Daniel in the GC Trial of the Century, over strenuous objections by Phyllis (of course).  But meanwhile Chance, who's now GCPD Commissioner (wow, that took him 2 seconds to become) will find out about Sharon's involvement in Heather's death & struggle what to do.

Then maybe sometime next year, Sharon will be sitting in her coffee joint, gazing at Nick, who's giving one of his usual dumb-dumb looks . . . and she'll realize she's been dreaming.  GAH!

But wait, Traci and Dead Martin have all but disappeared.  The writers pretty much forgot about her.

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On 10/4/2024 at 10:51 PM, boes said:

Chance was a bright light in today's show!  Here's hoping the GCPD has redesigned their uniforms and he'll soon  be laying the law down in Reno 911 hot pants and a Sam Brown belt.

I got no problem with Chance in booty shorts. None at all. He should keep his shirt mostly unbuttoned too. Officially of course.

16 hours ago, Kemper said:

Does no one on CBS or CBS Daytime care anything about the ratings?

Unfortunately, Y&R has fairly consistently led in the ratings even as the audience numbers sink for all daytime soaps. However, Y&R's most loyal, older demographic base is dying out, and CBS now has to compete with shows on streaming services for younger viewers. I think CBS is going to hang onto Y&R until the bitter end though because they want to be the last soap stiĺl standing.

9 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

I'm predicting Danny & The Bug will come back to town, and The Bug will be defending Daniel in the GC Trial of the Century, over strenuous objections by Phyllis (of course).  But meanwhile Chance, who's now GCPD Commissioner (wow, that took him 2 seconds to become) will find out about Sharon's involvement in Heather's death & struggle what to do.

Bleh on The Bug and Rock On coming back. AFAIC Sharon can kill them too. 😏Meanwhile, Phyllis could ask Amanda to return and serve as Danny's defense attorney instead of Christine.

Yeah, Chance's involvement in an official capacity might turn into a problem for both him and Sharon since they're former lovers. But recall how Chance eventually handled the death of Ashland. He pretty much gave the Newmans a pass because Abby begged him. I'd bet he's going to figure out a way to smooth over the Heather situation too though I'm not sure who will be the one to ask him for the favor. Maybe Mariah.

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23 hours ago, surfgirl said:

If it's a dream it means we aren't rid of Val/Heather and didn't she post that she's been fired? In which case it has to be real, right?

NO, do not put that into the ether.  Please.

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