Spoil Me This, Mando: Spoilers for The Mandalorian

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

There was a rumor - and I think it was confirmed by Favreau, but I'm still skeptical to say anything is the "truth" - that they had to reshoot parts of the last half of this season because the story went in a different direction than planned (or something like that). 

That’s another Grace Randolph rumor that was immediately shot down by more reliable sources. Favreau hasn’t confirmed any of it. These clickbait vlogers have twisted his words into something he didn’t say. 

Here’s the quote they claim confirms the show has a major shift halfway through, “As we introduce other characters, there are opportunities to follow different storylines,” said director Jon Favreau. “The world was really captivated by Game of Thrones and how that evolved as the characters followed different storylines — that’s very appealing to me as an audience member.”

It’s a real leap to the conclusion being drawn. 

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Does anyone think that maybe Ahsoka did originally take Grogu with her, but then they realized how horrible that would be so they changed their minds and kept him with Din?  Just a thought I had... I highly doubt it myself, but you never know.

No. That Ahsoka takes Grogu rumor was pure clickbait speculation that combined the Ahsoka series rumor and the Mandalorian second half shift rumor.

[FnkyChkn34]

9 hours ago, Dani said:

That’s another Grace Randolph rumor that was immediately shot down by more reliable sources. . . .

This woman needs to just go away!  Because I've never read her blog or watched her YouTube videos or whatever it is that she does, but her bad information sure gets around if I've heard it!  Ugh!!

Thank you for the clarification!

[magdalene]

So I read through our spoiler thread here to refresh my memory especially on all the spoilers that were posted last summer on reddit.

Boy, they  got almost everything wrong.  The only things they so far have gotten right  is that Bo Katan, Asohka, Boba Fett and Cobb Vanth would be in the show - and those names were widely reported in the trades.  The only thing one of those reddit leakers got right was the name "Grogu" for Baby Yoda.  And somebody is probably in trouble for this leak with Disney by now.  Laughs.  All Disney has to do is a process of elimination.  Who had access to the script?  Who had access to the set? It's bound to be a short list of people.

[paigow]

1 hour ago, magdalene said:

All Disney has to do is a process of elimination.  Who had access to the script?  Who had access to the set? It's bound to be a short list of people.

Favreau announced Grogu to the crew during Season 1 filming, so the list of suspects includes more than people directly linked to Chapter 13....

[FnkyChkn34]

12 hours ago, paigow said:

Favreau announced Grogu to the crew during Season 1 filming, so the list of suspects includes more than people directly linked to Chapter 13....

And Pedro Pascal revealed Din Djarin's name in an interview on the day the premiere was released.  Do they actually care if names are a secret?

[pezgirl7]

3 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

And Pedro Pascal revealed Din Djarin's name in an interview on the day the premiere was released.  Do they actually care if names are a secret?

I think they definitely cared about the baby's true name being revealed because there was a lot of mystery surrounding it. The interview Pedro did was produced by Disney, so if Disney didn't want Din's name being released, they could have edited it out of the promotional package. I'm glad so many of the alleged spoilers have been wrong, but it's also one of the reasons I haven't been paying attention to them lately. I just realized that @TVFan17 hasn't posted in a while, so I hope they're ok!

[magdalene]

8 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

And Pedro Pascal revealed Din Djarin's name in an interview on the day the premiere was released.  Do they actually care if names are a secret?

Oh, they care.  Disney contacted the "Heavy Spoilers" guy - he is the one who posted the Ashoka episode leaks including the baby name on you tube a couple of days before the episode aired - and they had a "little chat" with him.  He said they were not nasty to him but very curious who his source was.  He still has his youtube account which makes you wonder whether he threw his source under the bus.

[Guest]

On 12/2/2020 at 3:57 PM, magdalene said:

The only thing one of those reddit leakers got right was the name "Grogu" for Baby Yoda.  And somebody is probably in trouble for this leak with Disney by now.  Laughs.  All Disney has to do is a process of elimination.  Who had access to the script?  Who had access to the set? It's bound to be a short list of people.

That leak was supposed to have come from a stunt man who worked on both seasons. It’s a pretty narrow pool of suspects. I kind of love that the biggest actual spoiler came from some random guy and not an “insider”. It just goes to show that most of the people who make money from this are complete phonies. 

I looked over some of the “spoilers” and most of them were laughably bad. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, magdalene said:

Oh, they care.  Disney contacted the "Heavy Spoilers" guy - he is the one who posted the Ashoka episode leaks including the baby name on you tube a couple of days before the episode aired - and they had a "little chat" with him.  He said they were not nasty to him but very curious who his source was.  He still has his youtube account which makes you wonder whether he threw his source under the bus.

Or he made the whole thing up to give himself more credibility. Either way Disney has no recourse against random people who repeat spoilers. 

[magdalene]

32 minutes ago, Dani said:

Or he made the whole thing up to give himself more credibility. Either way Disney has no recourse against random people who repeat spoilers. 

He seemed to be afraid they would get at him through a copyright strike on his you tube channel.  Violating you tube terms of service is no joke.  That's what you tube content creators and reactors fear.  I do know three strikes against a you tube channel  can mean the end for your channel.  Now that doesn't matter much if you have few subscribers but some of these guys have enough views and subscribers that they make a tidy sum.

Edited December 4, 2020 by magdalene

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, magdalene said:

He seemed to be afraid they would get at him through a copyright strike on his you tube channel.  Violating you tube terms of service is no joke.  That's what you tube content creators and reactors fear.  I do know three strikes against a you tube channel  can mean the end for your channel.  Now that doesn't matter much if you have few subscribers but some of these guys have enough views and subscribers that they make a tidy sum.

I was thinking that you were talking about a different YouTuber so I have to take back what I said about the guy lying. I have no problem believing Disney contacted him over that leak. 

I’m not surprised he was concerned over copyright but I doubt Disney would do that just because these channels create buzz and are seen by a pretty small audience overall. They’re good for business. 

[magdalene]

I was very surprised Disney was not nasty. They have a rep for being absolutely ruthless going after people who use Disney property without their permission.  There was this case of somebody putting some Disney thing on their recently passed away child's grave stone and Disney went after the bereaved parents. 

Sure you would think these big companies would be grateful for free buzz these you tube channels generate but that is not the case.

[FnkyChkn34]

I think Disney and Lucasfilm have more control over the spoilers and "leaks" than we all think.  They let out what they want out, or at least don't stop what they don't really care about.  I'm definitely no insider of the business, so maybe others of you have more insight than I do, but it's just my opinion.  I go back to the existence of Baby Yoda/Grogu in the first place.  That never got out until the first episode was released, and that was a much bigger secret and better spoiler than just a character's name.  They might have to make "threats" against YouTubers to save face, but at the end of the day - any press is good press.  

[Guest]

1 hour ago, magdalene said:

 

I was very surprised Disney was not nasty. They have a rep for being absolutely ruthless going after people who use Disney property without their permission.

 

Most of those videos fall under fair use and do not violate copyright law. Disney still could create an issue but they seemed to have realized it’s not worth it. 

1 hour ago, magdalene said:

There was this case of somebody putting some Disney thing on their recently passed away child's grave stone and Disney went after the bereaved parents. 

This wasn’t a case of Disney actively protecting the copyright. That family was required by their town to ask Disney for permission and Disney said no. Supposedly Walt Disney enacted a policy that all requests to but their characters on grave stones would be denied. 

5 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I think Disney and Lucasfilm have more control over the spoilers and "leaks" than we all think.  They let out what they want out, or at least don't stop what they don't really care about.  I'm definitely no insider of the business, so maybe others of you have more insight than I do, but it's just my opinion.  I go back to the existence of Baby Yoda/Grogu in the first place.  That never got out until the first episode was released, and that was a much bigger secret and better spoiler than just a character's name.  They might have to make "threats" against YouTubers to save face, but at the end of the day - any press is good press.  

I think it’s a little of both. Most they know of or don’t care about but occasionally something leaks that really worries them. Not because of the content but because of the level of access. After watching the video in question I absolutely believe Disney wanted to figure out how that got out. Not because of the name, which was leaked months ago, but because the source had clearly seen large parts of the episode. 

[pezgirl7]

I posted a very short sound clip from a Beauty and the Beast song on my rinky dink Tumblr account, and Disney filed a copy right claim against me. So I can believe they would come after bigger content creators.

I know Grace and some others said that Mando was going to take a back seat to the story in the middle of this season so the show could focus on other characters, but we haven't really seen that. Yes, there have been new characters introduced, and Mando hasn't been on screen 99% of the time, but it's no where near the level that some people predicted. I think that just goes to show that we shouldn't place much stock in to most of the rumors regarding the storyline. They took one comment from Jon and went to the extreme.

Also, I'm really surprised that the baby's name wasn't spoiled for me, since I follow the show pretty closely.

Edited December 4, 2020 by pezgirl7

[Guest]

Pedro doing press for WW talked about the upcoming Mandalorian spin-offs.

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As the Star Wars world around his Mandalorian expands, Pascal says his character "has to be" a part of the upcoming titles outside of his own. "Man, fingers crossed. How could you not?" he says. "This is like, this is something that's so much bigger than all of us, and we're all a passenger to it in a great way. And so, I find out, as it is decided and shared."

This isn’t particularly a spoiler but it certainly seems to be the final nail in the coffin of the rumor that Pedro quit the show. Can everyone start ignoring Grace Randolph now?  I’m so tired of seeing her as the source for articles. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by Guest

[FnkyChkn34]

I don't think this is a spoiler because it's complete conjecture and rumor, but I'll share anyway:

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/star-wars-rumor-reveal-saved-baby-yoda-order-66/?fbclid=IwAR1LcDp9KIieGBRUlWRClwFef76RT4JE3AAGqYgwB20jJgg52GcOt0FaLIk

If true, then even 

Spoiler

Samuel L. Jackson

needs a little Baby Yoda time too?  LOL 

[Sakura12]

They should just go with R2 saved him. That Droid knows everything. 

[Peace 47]

I listen to John Campea’s YouTube show from time to time, and he says that “We Got This Covered” is completely unreliable for any kind of spoiler/ casting/ whatever news.  They apparently are more than willing to print Internet fan wish lists or speculation as fact.  (ETA:  And I know you already said that it was just conjecture or rumor, so just “adding” my two cents to the conversation, and just passing along that the site is pretty much just an unchecked rumor mill for all kinds of industry speculation by fans.)

Edited December 21, 2020 by Peace 47

[FnkyChkn34]

36 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

They should just go with R2 saved him. That Droid knows everything. 

I agree.  And it seems to make the most sense.

31 minutes ago, Peace 47 said:

I listen to John Campea’s YouTube show from time to time, and he says that “We Got This Covered” is completely unreliable for any kind of spoiler/ casting/ whatever news.  They apparently are more than willing to print Internet fan wish lists or speculation as fact.  (ETA:  And I know you already said that it was just conjecture or rumor, so just “adding” my two cents to the conversation, and just passing along that the site is pretty much just an unchecked rumor mill for all kinds of industry speculation by fans.)

I sort of figured, but good to know!  I take everything I read on the internet with a huge grain of salt (or two) anyway.  😉  I don't really trust anything until it's been reported multiple times and one seems like a more reliable mainstream source, e.g. Variety, and even then it could still be wrong.  

[Guest]

3 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

I don't think this is a spoiler because it's complete conjecture and rumor, but I'll share anyway:

https://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/star-wars-rumor-reveal-saved-baby-yoda-order-66/?fbclid=IwAR1LcDp9KIieGBRUlWRClwFef76RT4JE3AAGqYgwB20jJgg52GcOt0FaLIk

If true, then even 

  Reveal spoiler

Samuel L. Jackson

needs a little Baby Yoda time too?  LOL 

We got this covered is completely unreliable but the original source is semi-reliable. It could go either way. It’s been a rumor floating around for a few weeks. Probably a 50/50 chance if it actually being true. 

[FnkyChkn34]

3 hours ago, Dani said:

We got this covered is completely unreliable but the original source is semi-reliable. It could go either way. It’s been a rumor floating around for a few weeks. Probably a 50/50 chance if it actually being true. 

Honestly, I just thought it was funny.  Can you see him on this show? 🤣  I know that he was in the movies and played his character well, but I still can't help but picture him as the foul-mouthed badass in every role. 😜

And also, I just realized that I used a spoiler tag in the spoiler thread.  Ha, I guess I didn't need to do that, right?  Ah, Mondays...

[magdalene]

I wouldn't count anything out  at this point.  Maybe they would bring this Mace Windu on the Boba Fett show.  Boba might be a tad upset to see him on account of Mace beheading his daddy.  Dramatic conflict!

[paigow]

46 minutes ago, magdalene said:

I wouldn't count anything out  at this point.  Maybe they would bring this Mace Windu on the Boba Fett show.  Boba might be a tad upset to see him on account of Mace beheading his daddy.  Dramatic conflict!

Adolescent Boba attempted to kill Mace several times on Clone Wars. Mando-era Boba has no logical reason [like any of us] to believe that Mace is still alive.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Honestly, I just thought it was funny.  Can you see him on this show? 🤣  I know that he was in the movies and played his character well, but I still can't help but picture him as the foul-mouthed badass in every role. 😜

I can easily see it. He’s a massive Star Wars fan  and has been arguing that Mace is still alive and should came back for years. 

55 minutes ago, magdalene said:

I wouldn't count anything out  at this point.  Maybe they would bring this Mace Windu on the Boba Fett show.  Boba might be a tad upset to see him on account of Mace beheading his daddy.  Dramatic conflict!

I would be interesting. Boba is basically the Inigo Montoya of Clone Wars.

Now I kind of wish Boba had gone on the final mission. Luke and Boba meeting again would completely change the last scene. 

[FnkyChkn34]

14 hours ago, Dani said:

Now I kind of wish Boba had gone on the final mission. Luke and Boba meeting again would completely change the last scene. 

Right?  It kind of angered me that he just light-speeded out of there and left everyone else to fend for themselves.  UberBoba is boring. 🙂 

[paigow]

45 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Right?  It kind of angered me that he just light-speeded out of there and left everyone else to fend for themselves.  UberBoba is boring. 🙂 

Part of the plan was to capture the cruiser without inflicting serious damage.  So there was not much else for him to do anyway.

[tv echo]

Not much of a spoiler, but posting here just to be safe...

The Mandalorian Season 3 Features Lots of New Characters, Teases Star
BY MOLLY BRIZZELL    PUBLISHED 2 DAYS AGO
https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-season-3-pedro-pascal-new-characters-response/ 

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Now, the show's star, Pedro Pascal, teased new information about Din's journey in The Mandalorian season 3. The actor, who plays the show's titular character, was recently interviewed by the German magazine Neelix. He was asked about filming the show's third season and anything else he could reveal. In the true spirit of a modern-day Star Wars actor, Pascal kept things brief, but he could still provide some insight into what the fans can expect to see—or rather, who. Pascal teased the inclusion of many new characters in Din's season 3 journey. You can see everything he had to say in the quote below:

Q: In October last year, the shooting of the new season of The Mandalorian began. What can you tell us about it?

A: Definitely nothing (laughs). Okay, there will be some familiar faces and there will be a lot of new faces. In addition, there is again a lot of action and a really great story. Satisfied?

 

Edited February 17, 2022 by tv echo

[FnkyChkn34]

Not a spoiler - Pedro is adorable.  🥰  "Definitely nothing" is a very Star Wars/MCU answer, unless you ask Tom Holland something.

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, magdalene said:

I saw a very strange Grogu spoiler today on Star Wars Meg youtube channel for Mandalorian season 3.   The last time I was that taken aback was when I was spoiled to the name "Grogu" and that ended up to be his name.  So here it goes:

  Reveal spoiler

Somehow IG-11 returns and becomes both Grogu's armour and also his very own Jarvis.  I think this could be true for two reasons, with his Marvel history this seems plausible to be something Favreou to cook up, and I read a while ago that Taika Waititi may be involved in season 3.

What do you guys think?

I could see aspects of that happening but as a whole it sounds absurd. IG-11 is a droid so him coming back wouldn’t be difficult. Droids giving probabilities is nothing new but equating it to JARVIS and Iron Man seems likely to be a misinterpretation at best. 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Guest

[tv echo]

Edited March 12, 2022 by tv echo

[tv echo]

EXCLUSIVE: Axe Woves returns in The Mandalorian season 3
BY BESPIN BULLETIN    March 16, 2022
https://bespinbulletin.com/2022/03/exclusive-axe-woves-returns-in-the-mandalorian-season-3/ 

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Last week we were fortunate enough to get a glimpse of the third season of The Mandalorian filming at Long Beach, California – away from their usual spots of Manhattan Beach Studios, and the train yard location in El Segundo. We got to witness a few days worth of filming, and some scenes play out. As expected we saw some familiar faces, and helmets, but one stood out to us…Axe Woves.

The character of Woves was noticeably absent in The Mandalorian season two finale, but Bo-Katan Kryze actress, Katee Sackhoff, hinted at some bigger plans for Woves when appearing on The Sith Council podcast, “He just wasn’t there and there’s a reason. It’s just one of those things where I don’t know if the story is something I’m supposed to tell. So he’s just not there.”

Woves actor, Simon Kassianides, took to Instagram following the season two finale and responded to fans asking why Woves wasn’t in the finale saying, “There will be answers. This is the way”. I think I might know the answer, but more on that in the coming days as I’m piecing it together with more from the scenes that were filmed.

We managed to snap some shots of Woves from a fair distance, but our guy on the ground felt very confident in the actor being Kassianides, and a source told me he expected him to return for these scenes that were shot. Kassianides was seen working with Katee Sackhoff on set, and the latter was seen shooting scenes with Din Djarin.

 

Edited March 17, 2022 by tv echo

[tv echo]

Pedro Pascal teases Mando's leadership role in The Mandalorian season 3
By Jack Shepherd    July 26, 2022
https://www.gamesradar.com/mandalorian-season-3-pedro-pascal-leader/ 

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Lucasfilm are keeping very quiet on The Mandalorian season 3. In fact, the trailer that was released at Star Wars Celebration has still not been unveiled online. However, Total Film was on the scene and saw the footage which was epic in scope, with Mando venturing to the planet Mandalore to be "forgiven for his transgressions" after removing his helmet. There’s also a glimpse of Pedro Pascal’s hero seemingly leading a group of Mandalorians.

"If he is stepping into a leadership position, he’s reluctant to do so," Pascal tells Total Film in the new issue(opens in new tab), featuring The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power on the cover. "I don't think that there's anything more interesting than a character being forced into discovering what they're capable of, and who they are. That part has been really, really fun. Also, from my point of view, there's so many searchable ways to find the tonality of that. I just tried to achieve the subtleties of that kind of character development.”

While Mando steps up, Bo-Katan is dealing with the disappointment of not taking back the Darksaber. "Anytime you have a goal and you don't succeed, I think you reevaluate,” Katee Sackoff, behind Bo-Katan's mask, says. 

That’s as specific as she will get, though the Celebration footage did reveal she has further scenes with Grogu. "It’s funny because you always have to think about how you're interacting with Grogu," Sackoff says. "It's so specific, you have to make sure that you're not doing anything that says something different. Every single thing, every single interaction with Grogu is very, very thought out."

Edited July 27, 2022 by tv echo

[tv echo]

EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Bo Katan fights fellow Mandalorian on set of The Mandalorian season 3
BY BESPIN BULLETIN   SEPTEMBER 5, 2022
https://bespinbulletin.com/2022/09/exclusive-video-bo-katan-fights-fellow-mandalorians-on-set-of-the-mandalorian-season-3/ 

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Back in March we at Bespin Bulletin were able to locate a set of The Mandalorian season three in El Dorado Park in Long Beach, California and saw multiple scenes play out from afar. During that month we shared various images and revealed that we spotted the return of Simon Kassianides who plays Axe Woves alongside Katee Sackhoff. We also captured footage of scenes playing out which you can see one of below.

[tv echo]

The Mandalorian Season 3 ‘Opens Up The World Of Mandalore And The Mandalorians’, Says Pedro Pascal – Exclusive Image
By Ben Travis   Feb 11, 2023
https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/mandalorian-season-3-opens-up-world-of-mandalore-pedro-pascal-exclusive/ 

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It’s fair to say that the scope of the new season – delving further into the Mandalorian mythology Filoni helped establish in The Clone Wars – is about to get bigger. “What I love most about Season 3 is how much the world opens up in terms of Mandalore and Mandalorians,” Pedro Pascal tells Empire in the world-exclusive The Mandalorian Season 3 issue. “That means so many different facets of culture, politics, and rules and discoveries. Delicious doors are flying wide open.” Adding complications to his quest for forgiveness? Mando now wields the much-contested Darksaber, a hard-fought-after weapon with a weighted history for the Mandalorian people, and special significance for his fellow Mandalorian warrior Bo-Katan Kryze.

Introduced in live-action in The Mandalorian Season 2, Bo-Katan sees actor Katee Sackhoff reprise her voice role from the animated series – and after all her years in the Star Wars galaxy, even she was surprised when she saw the territory the Season 3 scripts were taking them into. “[I was] texting Jon and Dave, ‘Are you serious?’ This is an epic season – it’s so big and so bold and so different,” she promises. And for Bo-Katan, it brings big challenges – her dynamic with Din Djarin isn’t an easy one, and her tangled history doesn’t hold easy options for the future. “We know the family that she was born into; now what’s the family that she’s going to choose? What does that look like?” questions Sackhoff. That’s the thing with Mandalorians – they always find the way.

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by tv echo

[Guest]

Carl Weathers posted that he directed the next episode and that it is called THE FOUNDLING. Lots of potential with that title. My first thought was Grogu backstory since he is the current foundling of the group. 

[Guest]

The opening of episode 7 was aired at Celebration. 
Mandalorian Episode 7 Clip Hints at Live-Action Return of Beloved Star Wars Character

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The clip opens with a futuristic city, showing Elia Kane speaking to Moff Gideon through a hologram. Discussing the Mandalorians, Moff asks which ones are causing problems and, of course, it's Bo-Katan and Din Djarin.

"I shall deal with our Mandalorian friends," said Moff Gideon, before saying that "Grand Admiral Thrawn is missing. With respect, our one hope for success relies upon the secrecy of his return,” he continued. "I never hear a word of Thrawn. You’ve spoken of his imminent return. Perhaps it’s time that we look to new leadership."

The Mandalorian just has two episodes left in Season 3, though executive producer Rick Famuyiwa teased that plot threads from previous seasons will be addressed in them.

"Things have been building over the two seasons of the show and Book of Boba Fett," he said. "Obviously I think when we get to seven and eight, a lot of interesting things have been planted and we’ll see some resolution."

I was reminded on social media that Star Wars, and particularly Filoni, likes to follow up lighthearted and silly episodes with gut punches. And now I am concerned since episode 6 was as light and weird as this show as ever done. 

[magdalene]

Lots of people predicting that Din will die in the finale. I actually don't believe that.

I think he will be tortured and may end the season mind-wiped.  And may end the season separated from Grogu and Bo. I would hate that.

I also had the crazy thought that Bo may see Din without the helmet and kiss him. 

I am basing this on the chemistry I saw between them all season and a couple of things some of the actors, including Pedro Pascal, have said.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, magdalene said:

I think he will be tortured and may end the season mind-wiped.  And may end the season separated from Grogu and Bo. I would hate that.

I seen a lot of people saying that and I really hope they don’t with something that predictable. 

[Peace 47]

Honestly, I think the main reason that there is speculation about Din Djarin being killed off in the finale is extracurricular to the story.  Those rumors about Pedro Pascal clashing with Jon Favreau from a few years ago just won’t die and have been making new rounds on YouTube and fan sites from people with “sources” other than Grace Randolph (the reporter of the original story), with additional rumors added about Favreau also more recently clashing with Kathleen Kennedy over her interference with his creative vision for the show.

Even Screen Crush, a very positive and upbeat YouTube channel about all the fandoms it covers and not in the business of trashing anyone from what I’ve seen, gently alluded to the rumors in one of their recent reviews where they were considering whether Din could kick the beskar bucket.

But all that said, I would bet significant monies that Din Djarin will not be killed off this season.  Probably all my monies, lol.  I can believe that there is some kind of behind the scenes drama, though, just not to the level where they would dump the main character—something like that would have leaked to a major publication, I think.  And Pascal and Favreau even did some limited joint press together for the season.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Peace 47

[FnkyChkn34]

From what I hear, Pedro Pascal is just a fantastic human, so how could he clash with anyone?  If he doesn't like his costume, that's one thing, but I doubt he clashes with anyone that much.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Peace 47 said:

Honestly, I think the main reason that there is speculation about Din Djarin being killed off in the finale is extracurricular to the story. Those rumors about Pedro Pascal clashing with Jon Favreau from a few years ago just won’t die and have been making new rounds on YouTube and fan sites from people with “sources” other than Grace Randolph (the reporter of the original story), with additional rumors added about Favreau also more recently clashing with Kathleen Kennedy over herinterference with his creative vision for the show.

I agree and I think it all of it is just a sign of how much rage farming content creators determine the narrative around Star Wars. Right now I feel that it is driven but the fear mongering that Din is being driven out by Bo. The plot this season is everything certain groups need to drive fear that men are being replaced by “wokeness”. 

It’s completely illogical but these are people who believed they were going to retcon the sequel trilogy and Rey out of canon. 

Din won’t be written out unless Pedro wants out and when then can be just a voice over job there is literally no reason for Pedro to want out. 

[Peace 47]

1 hour ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

If he doesn't like his costume, that's one thing, but I doubt he clashes with anyone that much.

Well, if hard feelings between Favreau and Pascal have existed at any point over how much Pascal gets to show his face on camera (which is the basic outline of the persistent rumor that won’t die), it can’t be that momentous now, since like I said, they did some joint press together for this season.  And I don’t think they would have done something like that “snack food rankings” video together (that I got recommended on YouTube because apparently I am a Pedro Pascal fan now), if Pascal had demanded to leave the show.

I just posted in the TV Tropes thread here last week (before Paz died in this show, and I wasn’t even thinking about this show), that I don’t really love in general all the breathless speculation (bloodlust?) in every show nowadays over “who’s gonna die, and it’s a cop-out if it’s not someone important.”  The speculation over “who may be a spy” here is much more fun, but Character Death is something that audiences really seem to love, so that plus behind the scenes rumors make it an attractive topic, I guess.  I have seen it everywhere.

@Dani, I agree, and I also think it’s hard to have reasoned critique about a fandom-heavy show because valid critique can be dismissed as being a hater when sometimes you just want to think through how a character is being used.   Like, I actually do not think Din was overall well-used as a character in episodes 3 through 5, even maybe 6 in some regards, but I do enjoy Bo-Katan’s redemption tour.
 

 

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41 minutes ago, Peace 47 said:

Well, if hard feelings between Favreau and Pascal have existed at any point over how much Pascal gets to show his face on camera (which is the basic outline of the persistent rumor that won’t die), it can’t be that momentous now, since like I said, they did some joint press together for this season.  And I don’t think they would have done something like that “snack food rankings” video together (that I got recommended on YouTube because apparently I am a Pedro Pascal fan now), if Pascal had demanded to leave the show.

I don’t think those rumors have any real validity as far as Pedro wanting out but I also don’t think we can tell anything about their relationship from press. They are both actors and it is their job to promote the show. 

 

42 minutes ago, Peace 47 said:

@Dani, I agree, and I also think it’s hard to have reasoned critique about a fandom-heavy show because valid critique can be dismissed as being a hater when sometimes you just want to think through how a character is being used.   Like, I actually do not think Din was overall well-used as a character in episodes 3 through 5, even maybe 6 in some regards, but I do enjoy Bo-Katan’s redemption tour.

Part of the reason many of the theories of the racist and misogynistic portion of the fandom make it into the mainstream is because they usually rely on twisting legitimate things. It is unfortunate how much that can stifle legitimate critique. 

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On 4/17/2023 at 10:13 AM, Peace 47 said:

Character Death is something that audiences really seem to love, so that plus behind the scenes rumors make it an attractive topic, I guess.

Only speaking for myself, as I don't pay attention to "fandoms" , but characters we care about can die and it can mean something if the story telling is good.  Or characters can continue to get out of improbable situations, which means the viewer knows they always will do so, which means there are no stakes.  You can still have good story telling with that of course, though for me it hasn't happened in this case.   I can see a clear split in the story telling of this show from each season on, and it hasn't been for the better, IMO.  Now, I don't think the show is terrible, though it's had some bad episodes; it just hasn't been what I expected.

With Famuyiwa saying the Mandalorian could be anyone and Filoni saying he doesn't know when Grogu will start talking, it makes it sound more like they are testing the PR winds on the show rather than telling a story.   We don't really know much about Grogu's species, which could be an interesting story telling point but there's only so much you can do with puppets, I guess.  I've heard of the plan to bring this show together with Ahsoka's et al - so we'll see.  Indestructible villains are fairly uninteresting to me, though Thrawn has a personality, intellect and a very welcome reluctance to monologue, so I would much rather see him than Palpatine AGAIN, ugh.

[FnkyChkn34]

Here's a video I just watched with some interesting rumors.  As she says, take it all with a big grain of salt, they are all just rumors. 

She says that Din was supposed to take his helmet off in the last scene with Grogu and the frog.  But due to Pedro's unavailability, they couldn't film it.  I find it hard to believe that Pedro couldn't find a day or 2 somewhere to be able to film a scene, but I guess anything is possible.

 

 

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28 minutes ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

She says that Din was supposed to take his helmet off in the last scene with Grogu and the frog.  But due to Pedro's unavailability, they couldn't film it.  I find it hard to believe that Pedro couldn't find a day or 2 somewhere to be able to film a scene, but I guess anything is possible.

That can’t be true. One of the actresses from Guns For Hire has said that she filmed with Pedro. I’ve read a few reports that he had a break during filming The Last of Us where is filmed for season 3 but can’t confirm it. Season 3 reshoots were after TLoU finished filming. If they really wanted a helmetless scene they could have done it. 

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14 minutes ago, Dani said:

That can’t be true. One of the actresses from Guns For Hire has said that she filmed with Pedro. I’ve read a few reports that he had a break during filming The Last of Us where is filmed for season 3 but can’t confirm it. Season 3 reshoots were after TLoU finished filming. If they really wanted a helmetless scene they could have done it. 

That's what I thought too.  Plus now that I think about it more, it's just one scene with minimal CGI needs - they could have filmed it a month before the show premiered and edited it in.  Maybe the helmet thing will be answered in Ahsoka or next season...

[magdalene]

In addition to season 4 being written it's been reported on industry and production sites that Mando season 4 is in pre-production to begin filming in October.  I trust those kind of websites more than anything else.

I had to learn the hard way that you cannot trust  fan sites even with millions of followers as many of them have various agendas that conflict with what I like and want from the show.  There are the Disney haters, the Grogu haters, the sequels haters, the Pedro Pascal haters.  And all those youtube channels whose bread and butter is constant negativity.

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3 hours ago, magdalene said:

In addition to season 4 being written it's been reported on industry and production sites that Mando season 4 is in pre-production to begin filming in October.  I trust those kind of websites more than anything else.

I had to learn the hard way that you cannot trust  fan sites even with millions of followers as many of them have various agendas that conflict with what I like and want from the show.  There are the Disney haters, the Grogu haters, the sequels haters, the Pedro Pascal haters.  And all those youtube channels whose bread and butter is constant negativity.

I agree and take all of the fan sites with a heaping grain of salt.  I only found that one interesting because she gave herself the disclaimer and said multiple times they were just rumors that she heard and she couldn't verify anything, but they were interesting enough tidbits to ponder.  I don't believe that Pedro wasn't on set at all during Season 3.  

The Last of Us season 1 took one year to film, and I can find an article that quotes Pedro as saying that there's only a chance that season 2 starts filming before the end of 2023.  If Mando starts in October, that gives him a couple months (hopefully, or more) to be on the Mando set and do the helmetless scenes (fingers crossed!).  Plus, he obviously must get some time off during that year and isn't needed on TLoU set every single day.