Carlin and Evan: But Mostly Carlin!

[Heathen]

10 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

cereality, I remember when Mrs. Clark got injured in Mexico, the family consulted with an orthopedic surgeon back in NJ, so they definitely don't shortchange themselves when it comes to health care.

And speaking of family rifts, have you seen the drama with Tiffany? She unfollowed a bunch of people, including all the Bateses. Yesterday, she left several nice comments wishing Whitney a Happy Birthday. Whitney responded to everyone else and ignored Tiffany. There is enough pettiness swirling to fill the Grand Canyon. 

I have to wonder if the Bateses' treatment of Tiffany is rooted in racism. I think it probably is. 

[SMama]

1 minute ago, BitterApple said:

cereality, I remember when Mrs. Clark got injured in Mexico, the family consulted with an orthopedic surgeon back in NJ, so they definitely don't shortchange themselves when it comes to health .

Thank you for the reminder. IIRC initially the plan was for Mama Clark to have surgery in Mexico. It seemed like a certainty. They asked for prayers.
 

Then the announcement about the US consult and decision to get her home was posted. I’m not a Clark fan but they seem to value proper healthcare. They have repulsive beliefs, but Katie will get the best care the Clarks can afford.

Baby Clark will also be the first grandchild. That baby will be spoiled. Hopefully spared the physical abuse. 

[cereality]

29 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

cereality, I remember when Mrs. Clark got injured in Mexico, the family consulted with an orthopedic surgeon back in NJ, so they definitely don't shortchange themselves when it comes to health care.

And speaking of family rifts, have you seen the drama with Tiffany? She unfollowed a bunch of people, including all the Bateses. Yesterday, she left several nice comments wishing Whitney a Happy Birthday. Whitney responded to everyone else and ignored Tiffany. There is enough pettiness swirling to fill the Grand Canyon. 

I do remember that. They consulted w/ a US surgeon like within a day. So I do wonder if they raised some eyebrows if they felt that Evan/Carlin were futzing around with a potentially serious issue and G&K don't have the money, clout, or sense to step in and guide the process if Evan can't.

In that sense Katie is lucky. If she runs into more severe clotting disorders or whatever blood incompatibility Josie has w/ babies or if her kid needs a NICU like Zach and Josie's kids did -- they are headed to UPenn ASAP. Even if everything is fine and normal, she's already said she's going to deliver at the big health system in south jersey w/ an epidural. So unlike many of the sisters it's not about rolling the dice with creepy Dr. Vick for the first baby until some problem presents itself.

And WOW I just checked the Whit bday post and Whit REALLY went thru and responded to every person besides Tiff. In a normal family I'd say they're so petty bc they all have far far too much idle time given that they don't work and/or work = re-selling barrettes they buy off Amazon or doing makeup at a wedding twice a month [and I do think the core of Whit/Erin/Carlin/Josie/Katie's rifts are a product of idle hands].

BUT with Tiff I do have a feeling there's some racial thing there. Who knows what. It could be anything from referring to her as Lawson's Chinese wife to making remarks about how Asian their babies will look to saying stuff about how her parents aren't her REAL parents to simply just not treating her as one of them/not talking to her that much at events bc she's "different." I have noticed before how bored Law/Tiff are in Nashville. Like he'll take her out to a botanical garden or decent restaurant in Nashville and she'll be like - well I guess it's nice to get out. Like she seems lonely. His family is only 3 hrs away, neither of them works and they really don't ever kill time by saying - hey lets jump in the car and go visit your family. They were noticeably absent at some event recently - maybe Nathan/Esther's baby shower or Lydia's shower - and I remember thinking wow they'd really be bored all weekend rather than just drive 3 hrs and be with his family. In fact I think they see her family more than his even though they're across the country.

I don't think whatever is going on with Whit has anything to do w/ the Erin rift though - bc when Law/Tiff do hang out with family - we've seen them at Erin's house + Carlin's house, so it's not a matter of taking sides. Hope this isn't the start of cutting them out completely for Whit bc her older two kids genuinely seem to love Uncle Law.

[GeeGolly]

Yikes. This family is like a bad soap opera.

[BitterApple]

8 hours ago, Heathen said:

I have to wonder if the Bateses' treatment of Tiffany is rooted in racism. I think it probably is. 

Taking my response to the Lawson thread. 😉

[GeeGolly]

Carlin is leaving me hanging here. 😁 Did Gil get things done? 🤨

[Notabug]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Carlin is leaving me hanging here. 😁 Did Gil get things done? 🤨

My guess is the cardiologist told her that her entire cardiac workup was normal and they were signing off her case.  Gil couldn't have much to say about that.  As far as what is wrong with her, the cardiologist can only evaluate their own area of expertise; not go off into other organ systems.  

I presume the delay is because Carlin doesn't know how to spin this for the leghumpers and to keep clicks coming.  Her audience expects lots of fancy tests and abnormal results.  She's had all the fancy tests the cardiologist can order, without abnormal results, most likely.  Hard to keep the cliffhanger going when the tests are negative.

[GeeGolly]

Carlin is still on a FU interwebs roll. Now she's doing all these "appreciate the times at home" reels.

• Works ✔️
• Feeds her kids ✔️
• Stays home ✔️
• Layla does things other than look in the mirror or smile for the camera ✔️

Next up should be something about kids having schedules/structure, Carlin following doctor's orders and Evan slaving away editing reels for their blog and BSB.

👋🏽Hey Carlin, what we also want is some straight up answers about your health. You started it, now finish it up with some facts. 👀

[ginger90]

[Notabug]

5 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

All set up?  How hard is it to drag a bunch of bins full of unsorted merchandise out?

[Heathen]

That might be the first time Zade was ever photographed when his moronic parents DIDN'T face him outwards so the camera could get his face. Carlin must not have realized it. 🙄

Also, the expression in Carlin's eyes reminds me of the test pattern on older televisions. 

Edited September 24, 2022 by Heathen

[Jeanne222]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

All set up?  How hard is it to drag a bunch of bins full of unsorted merchandise out?

What a mess it all is!  Doesn’t even look as good as most garage sales at $1 per item!

They are so lazy in this business I just can’t believe it supports two families and a few employees plus rent, insurance and utilities!

What a mess!

The saying ‘Pretty is as pretty does’ comes to mind!

[BitterApple]

31 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

What a mess it all is!  Doesn’t even look as good as most garage sales at $1 per item!

They are so lazy in this business I just can’t believe it supports two families

I agree it looks WORSE than a garage sale. I was at a yard sale this morning, and the clothes were neatly folded in boxes and everything was separated by item type and size. Coats and sweaters were on a hanging rack. These girls are so incredibly lazy and I'm with you in disbelief that this crappy, half-assed business supports two families. 

Edited September 24, 2022 by BitterApple

[GeeGolly]

Their prices aren't even all that cheap. Kohls and Target probably sell better quality stuff at similar sale prices that you can at least try on and take back, if need be.

[Cinnabon]

3 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

What a mess it all is!  Doesn’t even look as good as most garage sales at $1 per item!

They are so lazy in this business I just can’t believe it supports two families and a few employees plus rent, insurance and utilities!

What a mess!

The saying ‘Pretty is as pretty does’ comes to mind!

They ain’t that pretty. . .

[Salacious Kitty]

Surprise! The cardiologist results came back normal, said they did all they can for her. 

Evan is talking about Cleveland and Mayo.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Salacious Kitty

[Notabug]

25 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Surprise! The cardiologist results came back normal, said they did all they can for her. 

Evan is talking about Cleveland and Mayo.

Do I get a prize for my psychic abilities?

If Evan is talking about new specialists, what about the neuro doc?  What about the 5 day EEG?    Did they already get the kiss-off from neuro and are too afraid of losing followers if they admit that they've exhausted the medical options and have been advised to seek psychologic evaluation?

[Salacious Kitty]

He mentioned that they were scheduling way out for the EEG. Like they could get into Cleveland or Mayo sooner? 😂

[ginger90]

4 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Do I get a prize for my psychic abilities?

If Evan is talking about new specialists, what about the neuro doc?  What about the 5 day EEG?    Did they already get the kiss-off from neuro and are too afraid of losing followers if they admit that they've exhausted the medical options and have been advised to seek psychologic evaluation?

They are going back to a neurologist. She’s supposed to have the 5 day EEG, but they are booked for quite a while. The psychological aspect hasn’t been mentioned, that I have seen.

As a side note, they  thought Izzy may be pregnant, although they said it would be impossible because she hasn’t been around another dog that wasn’t neutered. Results showed she isn’t.

[Jeanne222]

So is their dog pregnant???  I thought she was just a young pup?  Surely they are keeping her safe?????

[Salacious Kitty]

2 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

So is their dog pregnant???  I thought she was just a young pup?  Surely they are keeping her safe?????

No, it was a false alarm. Carlin hinted breeding her in the future. ☹️

[BitterApple]

Their dog isn't spayed? I guarantee they're going to breed her. They probably saw how much cash Travis and Katie made off Remi's litter and want in. It's not like Evan is going back to work anytime soon (or ever). 

[Notabug]

22 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

He mentioned that they were scheduling way out for the EEG. Like they could get into Cleveland or Mayo sooner? 😂

Or, that if they got to Cleveland or Mayo, they would be able to schedule a 5 day EEG sooner?  Nope.  Presuming that all the tests she has already had were done properly and the results are available, neither Cleveland nor Mayo would want to repeat them.  Or, at least, not most of them.  I presume the 5 day EEG is very likely what the neurologists at CCH or Mayo would recommend, too, as the next logical step.  And that, they too, have a waiting list for the test.  

I do not know what the neurology department waiting time is currently at Cleveland Clinic, but it is a safe bet that it is 2 months minimum.  There is absolutely nothing about Carlin's condition that will warrant her being able to jump the line.  She's been having her episodes for months now, but they're not worsening.  If anything, she seems to have improved a bit on anti-seizure meds.

I would not be surprised if someone somewhere suggested a psychologic consult for Carlin if only to help her handle the stress of her condition and its non-diagnosis.  I don't think Carlin or Evan would ever share that information with their followers, though, because they're not big believes in it themselves.

Edited September 24, 2022 by Notabug

[SMama]

How are they going to pay for all the testing and doctor visits? I don’t see these two as being sensible enough to have taken advantage of Cobra, if they were eligible. 

[Notabug]

1 minute ago, SMama said:

How are they going to pay for all the testing and doctor visits? I don’t see these two as being sensible enough to have taken advantage of Cobra, if they were eligible. 

Any hospital that receives public funding has to provide a certain amount of care to uninsured people.  That is most likely the loophole that Gil used when he bragged about using the ER as their family doctor.  If Carlin and Evan do not have health insurance and are not eligible for Medicaid; the hospital would have them speak to a Financial Advocate to see if they're eligible for free care.  Even though they own a home, they could qualify, especially since it seems a lot of their income is not easily traced.

[Heathen]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Surprise! The cardiologist results came back normal, said they did all they can for her. 

Evan is talking about Cleveland and Mayo.

It amazes me that these two willfully uneducated jackasses think they know more than actual doctors. Carlin's "illness" sounds more like factitious disorder every day. 

How long until her next attention-getting "seizure"? 

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, Heathen said:

It amazes me that these two willfully uneducated jackasses think they know more than actual doctors. Carlin's "illness" sounds more like factitious disorder every day. 

How long until her next attention-getting "seizure"? 

Maybe at today's Cash and Carry? Definitely not during the festivities surrounding Trace's wedding next week. 🙄

[GeeGolly]

So they haven't even booked the 5 day EEG? What dumb fucks, they should have booked that the minute it was suggested.

[cereality]

I assume this is from today's video, which I refuse to watch. But am confused - the 5 day EEG is booked out pretty far. Ok understandable but they said before she'd do in it October. Did they not grab an appt? They've been talking about this for at least one to two months now. When they knew two months ago that this may be needed and it's booked out until Oct., why not grab an appt then? They could even run by the dr that they wanted to schedule far out just to have it on the books for 2022 and if it turns out it was not needed, they'd cancel - what dr would say no?

Even now they say it's booked out - uh ok but have you grabbed the first appt you can for Dec/Jan or will you in Dec. come back and say oh can't get an appt?

Even if they want to go to Mayo/Cleveland, it's not like they'll magically get in faster there + those places will want this test too and frankly may refuse to see her until this test is done since high end specialists often want patients coming in with a package of testing done and ready to review. AND Mayo/CC may say - she's stable, we aren't going to upset our schedule to get her in for this test ASAP so when it's done in 2-3 mos, call us then for an appt.

[Salacious Kitty]

From the way Evan phrased it, it doesn't sound like they have set an appointment for the 5 day. Stupid idiots. As @cereality noted, they knew about this months ago. 

[Cinnabon]

If they have a deductible on their health insurance plan, someone should tell them that it resets in January. Or not. Let them learn a hard lesson.

[Jeanne222]

What a mess!  I still don’t understand if they had enough income and potential income to qualify for that nice home how they can get Medicade and say they’re  low income!

They own a business and issue paychecks and pay rent .

They must have that church insurance  

[Cinnabon]

49 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

What a mess!  I still don’t understand if they had enough income and potential income to qualify for that nice home how they can get Medicade and say they’re  low income!

They own a business and issue paychecks and pay rent .

They must have that church insurance  

They don’t qualify for Medicaid. If they’re receiving it, they committed fraud.

[65mickey]

They might be on medical insurance through the Affordable Care Act. They would most likely not admit this. 

[BitterApple]

For shits and giggles I just looked up the income thresholds for Medicaid, and for a family of four in TN the cutoff is just shy of 37k. If the Stewarts filed honest tax returns (and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt), there's no way they'd qualify. 

[Cinnabon]

17 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

They might be on medical insurance through the Affordable Care Act. They would most likely not admit this. 

Yep, they are nothing if not lying hypocrites.

[cereality]

So per Reddit - Evan makes it sound like they haven't scheduled the 5 day EEG but will be asking for Mayo/CC referrals. IDK if it works that way for all the reasons noted above. Maybe in normal times that would've been fine but in these pandemic/post-pandemic times healthcare is way slower due to higher demand.

Also unclear why Evan goes on about how Carlin was SO disappointed re the lack of answers from cardiology. IIRC didn't the cardiologist say/imply to them up front that they didn't think it was the heart, but they'd do these 2 tests as a rule out?

I really question what the drs. are saying and what they're understanding here. Also interesting that Evan acknowledges he could do a better job as a husband but he's so non confrontational that he doesn't want to seem like he's telling drs. what to do. But apparently Gil has no problem with that so he came along. Uh asking questions and understanding the plan isn't telling drs. what to do -- and as if you could even do that. I'm pretty sure your dining room science education doesn't qualify you to tell an MD what to do.

How on earth will these 2 manage Layla's heart issue? They seem to understand nothing. Though IDK I don't work in medicine, maybe this is what the average American is like? [Though IDK I feel like with the internet even the avg person w/ decent reading skills has gotten better at reading about something the dr told them and asking follow up questions.]

[ginger90]

I have to wonder what Gil’s wonderful part in the appointment was. The doctor said, it’s not a heart issue. What could he say?

[3 is enough]

I understand the frustration in not getting answers, but I would think that having heart problems ruled out definitively would be a GOOD thing.  
 Why they have not scheduled the 5 day EEG is beyond me.  Better to get that done before going to Mayo or Cleveland, if for no other reason than to minimize costs.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that Izzy is not spayed.  Female dogs can be breeders too. 🙄

Did they ever follow up on Layla’s heart issue?  As I understand it it is not uncommon and the hole usually closes up on its own.  Still, if it was my child I would not rest until I had some sort of answer.

[Notabug]

39 minutes ago, cereality said:

Also unclear why Evan goes on about how Carlin was SO disappointed re the lack of answers from cardiology. IIRC didn't the cardiologist say/imply to them up front that they didn't think it was the heart, but they'd do these 2 tests as a rule out?

I really question what the drs. are saying and what they're understanding here. Also interesting that Evan acknowledges he could do a better job as a husband but he's so non confrontational that he doesn't want to seem like he's telling drs. what to do. 

They're SO disappointed because a heart problem would generate more hits and would be easier for the leghumpers to understand than something neurologic or psychiatric, IMO.  It just seems more glamorous and photogenic.

And, yes, the cardiologist told them last time that they didn't think it was a heart problem.  The fact of the matter is, in someone Carlin's age without significant health problems; a normal EKG, holter monitor and cardiac echo were enough to rule out 99+% of all cardiac issues that might cause her symptoms.  Doing a vascular ultrasound of her carotids and a cardiac stress test are really beyond the typical cardiac workup for her history.  This tells me, that despite claiming he has trouble being assertive with the doctors; that either Carlin or Evan begged the cardiologist to please, please, please do EVERY possible test.  The cardiologist doesn't have anything other than a cardiac catheterization at this point, and she's got no signs whatsoever that she's lacking blood flow to her heart muscle so they are not going there with her.

I suspect that little ninny Carlin decided to put all her eggs in the cardiology basket and decided not to schedule the EEG until after they saw the cardiologist and are now disappointed to hear that the neurologist isn't willing to pull some strings to get Carlin an appointment ASAP.  Recall that Carlin lamented having to be away from her babies (Starbucks) for 5 days to do the EEG.  I can imagine they were hoping the neurologist would order an emergency inpatient EEG for her to help amp up the drama.

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

What a mess!  I still don’t understand if they had enough income and potential income to qualify for that nice home how they can get Medicade and say they’re  low income! 

I think it's pretty obvious that they don't qualify for Medicaid.  However, hospitals are required by law to provide a certain amount of care for free to uninsured people.  It is based on ability to pay, but the guidelines are very liberal and anyone who doesn't have insurance can apply.  I've never seen anyone get turned down for at least partial write-off of their care.  It does not matter if they own a home or not.  It's based on income and lack of standard health insurance for people who don't qualify for Medicaid or Medicare.  Cleveland Clinic refers to it as 'rating' and anyone who gets it can see any physician who can order any testing or treatment up to and including surgery and the patient will never see a bill.  We can even get a lot of meds free or at huge discounts through the hospital pharmacy.  Anyone who needs health care and doesn't have insurance can call their local hospital and ask for a Financial Advocate and find out all about it.

[Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, 3 is enough said:

I understand the frustration in not getting answers, but I would think that having heart problems ruled out definitively would be a GOOD thing.  
 Why they have not scheduled the 5 day EEG is beyond me.  Better to get that done before going to Mayo or Cleveland, if for no other reason than to minimize costs.

Exactly. When I was having major fatigue and heart palpitations a few years ago, I was incredibly relieved when I found out that I was severely anemic and did NOT have a cardiac issue. What is wrong with them?

ETA - I wonder if she was lying about “passing out” during her stress test a few weeks ago? Was that mentioned?

Edited September 25, 2022 by Cinnabon

[Notabug]

11 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

Exactly. When I was having major fatigue and heart palpitations a few years ago, I was incredibly relieved when I found out that I was severely anemic and did NOT have a cardiac issue. What is wrong with them?

ETA - I wonder if she was lying about “passing out” during her stress test a few weeks ago? Was that mentioned?

Carlin seems to call almost everything 'passing out'.  She probably hyperventilated and got dizzy and stumbled.  That is a normal response and doesn't involve loss of consciousness.  

It seems that Carlin is either 'passing out' or 'having a seizure' on a regular basis; but, in reality, I think that whatever she is experiencing is neither a loss of consciousness or an actual seizure.

[cereality]

1 hour ago, Notabug said:

I suspect that little ninny Carlin decided to put all her eggs in the cardiology basket and decided not to schedule the EEG until after they saw the cardiologist and are now disappointed to hear that the neurologist isn't willing to pull some strings to get Carlin an appointment ASAP.  Recall that Carlin lamented having to be away from her babies (Starbucks) for 5 days to do the EEG.  I can imagine they were hoping the neurologist would order an emergency inpatient EEG for her to help amp up the drama.

4 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Evan did say AT THIS POINT we're pursuing neurology and the 5 day EEG - as if they hadn't been pursuing it thus far because they were relying on cardiology? And said he's calling the drs to see if they could do anything sooner like refer out to Mayo/CC [IDK why he thinks major national places like that are faster] bc things are booking out locally. So yeah you called it. They clearly didn't book a fall appt in the summer when this was mentioned.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, who wants anything to be wrong? I realize she wants answers but shouldn't the fact that it's NOT her heart be a relief? Same way that I didn't understand when they got in the car early on after having an episode at the neuro office and the neuro said it looks like it could be seizures and they were GIDDY. Like OMG we're SOOO happy, he said it's a seizure. Again I understand the search for answers but doesn't everyone want a dr to be like - uh you stubbed your toe in a funny way and that caused this weirdo thing, don't worry when your toe heals, you'll be fine?

Don't mind me I have a scary cardiology appt this week and you best believe I won't be going in there face full of makeup w/ my videographer and picking up Sbux on the way while making sarcastic comments about how every drs appt is such a let down.

I will say though there's a shot of her standing up when they are taking her blood pressure and she closes her eyes - first thought is is she dizzy? Is it for camera effect. Bc if she is dizzy say something to the dr/nurse??

And re the Cash and Carry she posted saying Warden has been by her side all day to make sure she's ok. Uh isn't that why she has a headship? I realize he needed to film + take selfies with the customers and is walking around like a douchebag tourist w/ a camera around his neck BUT Mr. I Quit My Job to Take Care of My Wife can neither stay with his wife for 4 hrs nor ask the dr questions effectively enough so that his FIL doesn't need to show up at the appt? And @ginger90 - as much as they were like oh Gil can ask questions and MAKE drs. do stuff, lol he probably sat there and said "thanks doc" bc when cardiology says we've done x tests, these are the only tests indicated and signs off you can't MAKE THEM do anything.

[GeeGolly]

If these "episodes" are real, Carlin (& Evan) is not doing her part as a patient. The way to move things along is to do everything the doctors tell them to do. That includes scheduling (or letting the office schedule) every test available the moment the tests are mentioned. Its working around the appointments, not working the appointments around their outings. Its showing up to appointments on the right day and on time. Its taking notes during appointments, asking questions until they understand the answers.

Its also paying attention to self-care, including a scheduled bedtime, improving diet, hydration, etc.

If Carlin put half the effort into her medical/health care, as she does for her make-up and hair, she'd be much closer to finding out what is or isn't going on.

[GeeGolly]

21 hours ago, ginger90 said:

⬆️ This weekend's sale. ⬇️ Last sale. To me its looks like the exact same (now germy) stuff, just different day. Again most of the family was there. Again photos and autographs. Again no pics of any purchases. These must be ego boosts and maybe promos to get back on TV.

[floridamom]

Wow, how bare this store looks. It looks more like a "going out of business sale" to me.

[BitterApple]

I remember a while back Whit or Carlin said Zach does all the ordering because he's good at negotiating with vendors. I have a feeling there's a bunch of sales reps laughing their asses off in China every time he calls. 

I understand you have to buy in bulk to get a volume discount, but this is ridiculous. A small business shouldn't be drowning in that much excess inventory. Just donate that crap to Goodwill and write it off. The shapeless prairie dresses can keep the LuLaRoe leggings company. 

[GeeGolly]

6 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I remember a while back Whit or Carlin said Zach does all the ordering because he's good at negotiating with vendors. I have a feeling there's a bunch of sales reps laughing their asses off in China every time he calls. 

I understand you have to buy in bulk to get a volume discount, but this is ridiculous. A small business shouldn't be drowning in that much excess inventory. Just donate that crap to Goodwill and write it off. The shapeless prairie dresses can keep the LuLaRoe leggings company. 

I'm going to guess, at least in the beginning and maybe still, they made an order and had to agree to buy a 'you get what you get' order with it. These are all the get what you gets. The boxes in the pics look like cheap drab versions of Old Navy dresses.

[65mickey]

36 minutes ago, floridamom said:

Wow, how bare this store looks. It looks more like a "going out of business sale" to me.

I don't believe it is a store. It's just a warehouse to hold stock and get things mailed out and to take photos etc. They are only open to the public for sales on these cash and carry days. At least I think this is what this place is. I guess they do enough business to keep having these sales. I have to wonder if they have ever thought of donating clothes to a woman's shelter or other nonprofit. 

[Notabug]

12 hours ago, cereality said:

Evan did say AT THIS POINT we're pursuing neurology and the 5 day EEG - as if they hadn't been pursuing it thus far because they were relying on cardiology? And said he's calling the drs to see if they could do anything sooner like refer out to Mayo/CC [IDK why he thinks major national places like that are faster] bc things are booking out locally. So yeah you called it. They clearly didn't book a fall appt in the summer when this was mentioned.

Thanks for the confirmation.  They apparently thought the world would stand still and wait for them to schedule the EEG in October and were shocked to discover that time marched on and all the appointments were filled.

At a prior cardiology appointment, when Carlin was referred for the carotid dopplers and stress test, the cardiologist TOLD them that a cardiac cause for her episodes was very unlikely based on the initial testing.  Did they not believe it?  Did they think that ignoring any other possibility would make it so?  

Also, if she is having what she feels to be seizures, what she claims the neurologist identified as a seizure, why in heaven's name wouldn't she be rushing to get the neuro stuff done first?  Wouldn't it be logical to rule out the most likely things first?  These two are idiots.

When I was in med school and we were learning about differential diagnosis, the list you make when presented with a patient's symptoms and findings; it is important to rank the possible diagnoses from most likely to least.  That was referred to as the 'Willie Sutton method'.  Willie Sutton was a famous bankrobber back in the 1930's and '40's.  Someone asked him why he robbed banks. "Because that's where the money is", replied Willie.  Smart guy.  Medicine is no different than being a plumber or an auto repair person or working on computers.  You start with the most common problems and work your way down.