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Don't forget, he speaks French! I'm on the same side. I love Liz, I hate the bus she's being tied down under and how many times it's likely to run over her before the year is up, but I don't see rape. We've seen soap characters keep pertinent information (sometimes about themselves, sometimes about something that affects the person they want to sleep with) to themselves in order to sleep with the person they desire. It's despicable, yes, but it's not rape. When the person in question is known to be mentally ill (like Ron's pet DID cases), that turns it into an issue where the person isn't able to give consent. Jake/Jason doesn't have a mental illness. He's clearly very into Liz and wants to have sex with her. My guess is, even if he knew who he was, that desire wouldn't go away (just like it didn't go away when he was presented with his "wife" Greenlee), until that rush of memories comes back to him, along with the related emotions. The issue here is her not telling him who he is and letting the chips fall where they may (which, again, could likely still be him wanting to sleep with her, if he doesn't feel those memories after she tells him who he is), not whether he can consent.

As Ron tries desperately to make "Michelle Stafford" fit..

I know there is a lot of thought that, given his full memories, there is no way Jason wouldn't go running back to Sam as fast as his feet will carry him. But, and this is a very small but... Jason has typically been rather passive when it comes to women. If he gets his memory back, and he sees Sam supposedly happy with Patrick, Danny, and Emma, I can see him thinking "she's better off," and having every intention of leaving her be where she is. And he has always loved Liz (to varying degrees at various times). Of course, the real crap issue in that outcome is Patrick/Sam, which sucks on every level. IMO, we can all have our theories, but the real outcome here will largely depend on what version of Jason comes out of this. Is it fully Jason Morgan? Jason Q? Some mixture of the two? An entirely new persona all together?

It feels kind of manipulative on his part. Like now he has two women he can blame this on - Helena and Liz. "I told Liz she should tell, but she begged me not to, and I feel like I owe her..."

I can't imagine she'll have to twist Nik's arm very hard on that last part. "So, you'll keep my secret, and I get to get laid a lot? Done!"

And that head writer is always on the wrong side of that discussion. Jasus, he has issues.

I miss the hell out of headcase Ally. Why can she not go all "I can smell the evil" on Rick and Maya's asses?

Well, it's a woman on GH. If they think any longer than 30 minutes straight, they'll just pass right out from the mental exhaustion of it all or something.

That's what I was hoping for. I hate what the "writers" are doing to Liz, but I do have one small request. When Carly inevitably finds out and starts frothing at the mouth that she was kept from her precious Jason for so long, I need at least one person to very calmly look her in the eye and tell her "it wasn't Liz's secret to tell."

I think if she was really worried about bringing the crazies out, rather than secretly loving the attention (vicariously through her son), she could have just as easily sent a private message with the same point. Because, if anything, her publicly stating that is what will really bring the crazies out. And she has to know that by now. Any chance someone can start a Morgan vs. Spencer fan war so we can watch Mama Bechtel and Mama Craig go at each other?

What? You don't believe that totally scientific, unimpeachable screenshot put together by the network?

Patrick is pretty much an empty vessel used for plot now. He's Liz. Talented actor, has a lot of fans, always able to bring it when given big moments, but used as a prop to fill in whatever plot carrying the show needs, regardless of what it means for the character himself. Please don't let Nicholas Bechtel have a brother. Please. Why would you put this kind of thing out into the universe? Run, Ellie! Run!! I just had a vision of Ron deciding to write "wacky family dinners" with Franco, Nina, Ellie, and Spinelli, and all the hair on the back of my neck stood up.

Yeah, if Spencer wasn't such a shit, but still ended up injured in a fire and felt insecure (or was maybe being teased) about the burns on his face, then while I loathe Courtney, I could at least tolerate a one shot Spencer gets a visit from Ghost Mommy to comfort him in is trauma kind of thing. But this entitled shit? Being rewarded for trying to off his cousin by a ghostly visit from his beloved "mudda"? Ick. Of course, they could surprise me and have her slap down some ghostly discipline over what a little shit he's become, but, 1) I highly doubt it, because we're supposed to see Spencer as this awesome, hilarious, precocious kid, and, 2) even if we did get her smacking him down, it would just be fuel for more Spencer griping about how awful life has been to him, and even his dead mother doesn't like him because he's hideous.

"Daddy, it would have been so much more fun if Mommy was at the ball." "Mommy goes to balls in Paris."

Maybe TC power voted for Courtney?

I'm sure they tweet.

Toonces! Look out!!

I think she was always going to "win" no matter how the voting came out.

I assume that would be Ron. And if it is, he'll never stop.

Grrpants, how awful for your friend! She had two guys to approach Liz, Cameron, and Jake in the park, pretending to be enemies of Jason, in the hopes that it would scare Liz off of any relationship with Jason. They could have been guys from her show's crew, I'm not positive on that. This was after she stood by and watched Jake's kidnapping and taunted Liz that he was probably dead.

Yeah, countless kids manage to subvert the locks and things like that and scoot out the door without warning. I don't see how that remotely equals (or surpasses??) hiring thugs to menace a toddler and a baby and standing by and watching while a baby is kidnapped without saying a word to stop it or let anyone know what you witnessed.

And why do I have the feeling that Nik, who has been keeping the Jason secret for how long now, will act like he's being such a "good friend" to Liz by letting her twist his arm to keep the secret? "Well, I don't know....I guess if it's really important to you..." Putting in the work now in the hopes that, when this eventually blows up and Jason ends up back with his weepy wife, he can catch Liz on the rebound?

I think Liz more than got hers when her child had to die so Sam and Jason could have a kid. Ron and Frank really can muck shit up, can't they? "It's the Nurses Ball! Except, well, budget, so it kind of feels more like a third of the cast got dressed up to come watch rehearsals for the Nurses Ball. And they just all squished in at the handful of tiny tables that were there. But, don't you worry, there will be some kind of shit about Spencer!"

There is no way there were any draperies even half that lively hanging in Nik's mausoleum of a home.

I didn't see Bill/Steffy, but I would be stunned if the show was able to find their way back to any level of maturity for Steffy at this point. Of course, I doubt they're interested in doing so. They want her like this. They think she's "fun and sexy."