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Reign airs on Wednesdays in Canada, meaning that the episodes are very often viewed a day before they have aired in the US. Therefore please be aware that this thread will definitely have spoilers for those who wish to wait until Thursday night to view the new episode. ETA: Not much to say about this episode right now, but I will say this: if Adelaide Kaine thinks she can convey every emotion by bugging out her eyes, this show is in trouble. Also getting really freaking tired of everyone leaving Greer's sister's out of the equation when they talk about her marriage. Are we supposed to see her so cruelly, that she would toss a perfectly good man for one that had more, just for the sake of having more?

Korra's only been missing for six months, maybe her friends came and visited her before then? The South Pole is a bit of a trek, and Korra probably had to stay there to be close to Katara for healing. It makes sense that she wouldn't be able to see her friends more than a few times in the past few years, especially since everyone has been so busy. I do wonder about phone calls and letters, though.

I don't think Korra is in Republic City, more likely somewhere random in the earth kingdom where none of her friends are. This next part references the season 4 trailer so I'll spoiler tag it just in case: Somehow I find myself really liking the idea of Korra out there on her own. It seems like her whole life has been dictated by other people, whether they want to help her or her to help them. Girl deserves some time to herself, I think.

Reign airs on Wednesdays in Canada, meaning that the episodes are very often viewed a day before they have aired in the US. Therefore please be aware that this thread will definitely have spoilers for those who wish to wait until Thursday night to view the new episode. Having given the warning up top, here are my (random, disorganized) thoughts: Mary and Catherine: I think Mary was fatally stupid in this episode, and I loved Catherine's reasonable arguments and explanations of where royalty gets their power. What I rather like about this is that Mary's behavior doesn't feel off when compared with the real Mary, Queen of Scots, who was also fatally stupid on more than one occasion. As I once read someone say, Mary was all heart, no head, and that was before her execution. *badum-ching* She has quite possibly screwed the entire country on her very first day as Queen. Francis and Lola: I liked their interactions throughout the episode, they felt very real. And I thought Toby sold Francis being unable to let go of the wee bastard very convincingly. I just hope they'll keep up the pretense of the baby being Julian's, and spare the kid from being treated like Bash. Francis and Mary could easily be named Godparents and it would not seem that strange if Francis was shown to have a particular affection for his "godson", especially since he doesn't have any children with Mary yet. Kenna and Bash: I continue to be surprised by how much I like them as a couple. I also find it funny that in this episode they were the most clear-cut heroes. Kenna was amazingly and heatbreakingly selfless, while Bash seemed to be doing a hell of a lot more for the castle than Mary, Catherine, or anyone else. He really looked after things for Francis. (That guy who mouthed off to Kenna is lucky he's dead, because the way Bash took care of things is in addition to the million other things that keep him in Francis's affections. My guess is that as soon as the king returns, Bash is going to be granted a very high position and Kenna will be holding a lot more power than before.) I'm sorry they lost Pascal but I see how his storyline is pretty much done with. I'm definitely preferring "ghost reckoning" to The Darkness, if this show insists on having a supernatural element always. Nostradamus: Beard. What. Greer, Leith, Castleroy and Yvette: I still want to hear Greer say, "I will not apologize for valuing my sisters more than I value a relationship with you, fuck off, etc" to Leith. I wonder if we're supposed to sympathize with Leith, who keeps acting like Greer is a simple gold-digger looking for the best title in a husband and nothing else. I found Yvette extremely stupid and rather callous to pursue Leith so hard after only knowing him for a short while and having found out about her soon-to-be-stepmother's past with him. That being said, I don't think she can be blamed even in part for her death; even though she was staying with them to see Leith, the family that Yvette was with was in fact secured and looked to be in a good place. That poisoning was more Mary's fault if anything (although obviously the most fault lies with the guy who poisoned the frikkin' water). I feel really bad for Castleroy, poor man. I really hope he'll have happiness, with Greer or without.

I just got my hands on the DVD set (by the way, worth it if only for the deleted scenes. They have one or two for almost every single episode, and many of them are some pretty meaty scenes!), and thought it was interesting how the lead costume designer described Mary's ladies in waiting: Kenna is the "Bohemian look" with a lot of flow-ey fabrics, Lola is "The Romantic", which seems to mostly play into her color choices; they always want her in warm colors and reds. Greer apparently they deliberately overdress to contrast against the other girls with her lack of title. Poor Aylee didn't get any breakdown of her wardrobe but I think we can probably call her The Innocent, since she was never overexposed or overdecorate. Most of this is pretty obvious from watching, but I thought it was interesting to hear about.

There's a little clip up from book 4! http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/korra-215-clip.html?xid=korranation

All spoilers, all the time. From the Book 3 Spoiler Thread: My guess is that Asami will have talked Korra into cutting her hair in a "new do, new you" kind of way, to cheer her up. This shorter look is more like a bob, which fits the 20's-esque world LoK is in. I can see Asami talking Korra into trying out a more fashionable way to wear her hair.

Moving this discussion to a Season 4 Thread...:D

The name for the last book has been announced, so I thought it was high time to make this thread. Please remember that this thread is for unspoilered speculation.

So sorry about the No Spoilers thing, I accidentally added it and cannot get rid of it! So yes, there are of course spoilers in this thread for these two episodes. The last two episodes are streaming together here: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-992-full-episode.html A few thoughts while I'm still trying to process this: HOLY SHIT DID SOMEONE'S HEAD JUST EXPLODE? I totally fell for the Bolin metalbending misdirection, and thought he would be awesomely bending every piece of metal in sight in the finale. So bravo, I love that he can lavabend. I wonder if that was already a thing or if Ghazan invented/discovered it? Because Bolin's gonna have to master it and either he'll have to figure it out himself (was it just me or did it seem like lavabending seems to incorporate more fluid, waterbending-esque movements?) or find a master. Lesson for today, kids. Don't ever try to induce the the Avatar State. You'd think they learned that in the last series. Poor Korra. I wouldn't be surprised if we return in book four to her having to relearn all her bending, if after two weeks she's still in a wheelchair, despite being both the avatar (who you'd think would need to return to peak physical condition by default) and a healer herself. Man she must have smacked into every mountain there was. So, body count: P'Li is definitely, explosively dead, Ghazan is almost certainly dead, Ming Wa is probably dead and Zaheer is alive and locked up. With his powers which include flight and choking people. And an avatar who is in no condition to de-bending power him. How has he not been executed? Dude killed a Queen, at the very least, then attempted murder (quite possibly mass murder, depending on what he was planning to do with the airbenders.

They didn't have a radio on the airship, it got stripped out by the looters.

Streaming Here: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-211-full-episode.html Holy crap, that was intense. I wasn't a fan of Kai being the one to do something while Jinora stayed behind, or of the fact that poor little Opal was used as a hostage. Otherwise I thought the episode was pretty damn spectacular.

Watch here: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-210-full-episode.html Dude. I think what they got away with in this episode may in fact surpass the "pantsless Sokka" scene from the original series!

The new episode is up and streaming on nick.com!: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-209-full-episode.html I'm...confused, honestly.

I think that Korra's learning metal-bending so quickly was meant to be consistent with one of the main points of her character: she may be pretty bad at diplomacy, spirits, general avataring, etc, but when it comes to learning bending, she's a prodigy. I've read the creators likening her to a pro athlete when it comes to bending. The only thing she was blocked on was airbending, and once she was unblocked she had already mastered all the forms, she just had to add actual air to it. She's not a master of air yet, but then again it's hard to say what criteria she has to meet (Especially with Tenzin as the judge). Before Aang the Avatars were told they were the Avatar at 16, I believe, and spent what sounds like a decade or so mastering the three other elements. Korra was bending three our of four when she was discovered as a child, and was declared to have mastered three by the time the series starts (I think she's supposed to 17 or 18?).

I definitely think that there's something deep going on in the Red Lotus's motives, and I suspect that it's going to be pretty noble. Both times they've come after Korra, they did not attempt to kill her, but to kidnap her. I have a feeling they want to talk with her more than anything. Something I appreciate about the show is how they're emphasizing that Korra's upbringing was overly-controlled and unlike any other Avatar, who was free to travel the world. Even now when Lin gives an order, Korra accepts that she has to go with the authority figure. It's just how she's been taught to think. Last season it was stated that Korra was locked in the compound because her parents wanted to keep her close, but this season it's claimed (or actually, said by Korra, who may be making the wrong assumption) that she was locked and guarded because of the kidnapping attempt. Which is it? And what good reason was there to keep her childhood kidnapping attempt a secret from her until now? Even if they were trying to protect her from fear, she should have been told at least when she arrived in Republic City, so she could get an idea of what kind of challenges there were out there for her. The girl was already a master of three elements at that point, she can in fact handle herself. So all this mystery around the Red Lotus seems very fishy to me. I have a feeling that they might have more of Korra's best interests at heart than some of the folks that raised her.

She did! Grey Delisle voiced Young Lin and Young Su was voiced by Jessie Flower, our very own Toph.

You can count me in with being deeply disappointed with how Lin was treated here. Toph should have at least let Su spend a night or two in jail to give her some perspective, even if she could use her connections to make the charges go away eventually. One thing I've been wondering though; did Toph know the extent of the damage to Lin's face? Or was she told at all? Because we know that her "sight" cannot distinguish faces. I think she'd still be mature enough to realize how traumatizing it can be to carry a large visible scar on your face, especially for a young woman. During the station scene I kept expecting (or maybe wanting more than expecting) Lin to say, that's all she gets after what she did to my face?! Although I don't know, it might not even have been vanity with Lin. Something still should have been said about Su hurting her sister so badly. When Su apologized in the present, I really really wanted to hear her specifically apologize for that scar.

Discuss Episode 7 here! I think we're clear of the leaked episodes, but if you do know something from future episodes that you want to bring up, please remember to spoiler tag.

Thought I'd start a discussion thread here. I believe we've gotten through all the leaked episodes, but please, make full use of the spoiler tag if you know something and feel the need to bring it up.

I've been turning it over in my mind for a while now, and I think I've come up with a likely headcanon for Philip-as-Misha (based on my own knowledge of wartime and post-war Russia, but also considering writing conventions): I think he's an orphan. If what he told Paige, about his father dying when he was six, is actually true to Misha's life, that places his death directly in the war. Even if the story isn't true to the exact detail, there was such massive loss of life in Russia -- most especially among men -- during the war that barely anyone Misha's age had a father. As for his mother, I sort of think that the writers wouldn't go that route since it would be too similar to Elizabeth/Nadezhda's upbringing. If Misha did lose his mother, it was probably to disease (typhus killed my Great-grandfather during the war, not the Nazis) or starvation. Without any parents or family, Misha would have ended up at an orphanage. In Tobolsk, which is very deep Russia. I don't know if I have to elaborate, but orphanages in the Soviet Union were horrific. Being plucked from an orphanage to be trained for KGB work would have been a huge honor and relief -- it would be a practically rags to riches story, leaving Misha very grateful. One of the reasons I really like this headcanon is that would add even more dimension to the difference between Philip and Elizabeth's views on protecting the USSR: Elizabeth didn't have a comfortable childhood, but she did have a mother who loved her and kept her -- and indoctrinated her to be a True Believer. Philip would have experienced years of neglect and starvation and the suffering of others. I think his motivation for being a spy is far less political than it is compassionate. While Elizabeth believes that she is defending the shining way to the future, Philip relates at a more human level, putting in work for his country with the idea that it benefits the suffering people he left behind; if America isn't a threat, than Russian citizens have a better chance of surviving and prospering and having a life better than his was. Can't wait to see how gloriously right or shamefully wrong I am!

The historical Mary actually did get married in white. It was her favorite color.

I want Greer to give Leith the most scalding verbal beatdown of his life after the way he treated her. I also want the show to futz with history and only stage Francis's death, and have him continue on the show under a new identity.