Trini

Tie-in website: Gotham Chronicle.

Interview with Robin Taylor (Cobblepot). Interesting; I didn't realize they put a prosthetic nose on him.

Interview with showrunner Bruno Heller. Spoiler-phobes beware, it mentions a few things that happen in the pilot and second episode, and talks about the direction of a couple of characters. And just in case anyone needs a head's up; the Pilot will be screened at Comic-Con this weekend, so spoilers will going around the internet.

I would have thought that we'd see Harvey Dent before kid!Ivy, since in some continuities he was a classmate of Bruce. And since we're dealing with the childhood of Bruce Wayne I'm surprised Leslie Thompkins(sp?) hasn't been cast.

So... like one half of every other buddy cop team on TV in recent years.

Seriously? The thread title hasn't been fixed yet?

Shame on me, I hadn't even thought of Hamill! That would be great. And there's hope, because they convinced him to do a cameo for Chuck, so I assume this is an easier sell. I wish they would keep the Joker out of this. Even a "pre-Joker". (From interviews, etc, you know they're going to go there.) I know he has various origins, but in my mind, the Joker only exists because Batman exists.

Compare and contrast the show with the comics, TV shows, and movies.

Getting one of the other "Batmen" would be cool, but I was also thinking of other adjacent actors. But now that I think over the list (of the more famous actors from the movies), most of them are unlikely to appear on a network show. Chris O'Donnell is doing TV, but he's with a competing network/studio. ------ Anyway, I kind of hate that they have to(?) throw all these these characters/allusions in the first season (and probably the first episode). Or even have some of them here at all. To me, this seems like the perfect setup to gradually learn more about the character and characters of Gotham.

I'm trying to think of another drama where a pre-teen was part of the main cast, and I'm blanking. Wait-- Seventh Heaven, but that show was about that family. And Touch, and Believe, but those were short-lived. If we're going to be spending time with young Bruce, it might be nice if they expand on his relationship with Alfred.I don't think that's been explored much.

Re-posting my thoughts on the name: I think it's silly that they changed her name. I assume it's for the audience to recognize that she grows up to became Poison Ivy. But it's redundant since they already picked the most recognizable/familiar villains for the cast. And no one else got a name change. That poster is a little too on-the-nose for my taste, with all that foliage in the foreground. And it looks like they're already styling her to look somewhat crazy (the hair). I don't really have any expectations for this character; I wasn't even expecting her to show up so soon.

Think we'll get any cameos from other versions of Batman? I know it's kind of gimmicky, but Smallville had several actors from movies and Lois & Clark show up, and I thought that was fun. I mean, Adam West is still alive right? (::goes to wikipedia::) Whoa; I didn't know he's near 90!

It gives a few details, but I feel this is mostly spoiler free: TVLine Gotham pilot preview. --- Even if they wanted to name her Ivy, they could have done something better than "Pepper". There are lots of plant names that start with 'P'.

Copying from the Spoiler thread since these aren't spoilers:

Heh, yeah. I'm Trini Girl in the afterlife. :) ------ Ben McKenzie interview.

Posters/ads of the cast have been released (can't put a link right now) and confirms that kid!Poison Ivy is named "Ivy Pepper" instead of "Pamela Isley". I think it's silly that they changed her name. I assume it's for the audience to recognize that she grows up to became Poison Ivy. But it's redundant since they already picked the most recognizable/familiar villains for the cast. And no one else got a name change. ------- Since I'm here... Judging from marketing/promotion so far, it looks like WB/DC/Fox are fairly committed to making sure Gotham does well. Unless it totally bombs in the first season, I assume this will get at least two seasons. Also, I hope that the producers and writers take into account that they have several child actors as regulars; because growth spurts are real.

Ha! I wanted to bring up the Billie Jean haircut (but it's not actually the Billie Jean haircut).

This was the One Thing that turned me off. It was completely unnecessary, seemed out of place, and yeah-- probably only there because "we're on cable and we need to sex this up".It was alright, and I didn't mind the slow (for now) pace or tech jargon.

I'll be checking out the Pilot at least; but from the trailer, I already like this less than New Amsterdam.

This is set in the 'present day', right? Like Smallville was? (Even though it about the backstory)

Copied form TWoP: I can't believe I watched a second episode of this mess (I fast-forwarded through half of it, though). At least it was a reminder of why I never watch these types of shows. This was stupider than stupid. And I already knew it was stupid going in, but it's not even funny or entertaining at all. Nobody is fooled, so what is the point of this?? Everyone is a fakey fake faker. In the right hands, I could even see this premise working as a sitcom, but this crap? NO. It's not worth watching to snark on, because I could feel brain cells dying. Stay away!