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In those stills I wonder if Sin's telling Lance - "You realized that buckled-up blonde over there isn't Sara, right?"

Scenes of fighting. A voiceover of Oliver saying "If you've shown me anything, it's that the city is more than safe in your hands. All of your hands." And Diggle replies with, "You've started something. Something strong enough to live on past you. Question is, can you live with what it's become?"

It is, and I don't think it has been pushed back, I think they just needed to do a few rewrites to match up the timelines because of a network-mandated break.

Maybe the suspenders pop off and start a domino effect of things falling down, maybe they don't....

Well, if that's the case then I hope that Thea and Malcolm go to the island to get some information from Slade and Thea isn't taken to get at Oliver. Because Slade needs to turn in his villain card if he's out for retribution and doesn't even bother with the woman who was responsible for him getting taken down in the first place.

Back to the Slade thing and Oliver being "horrified" when he sees him again and Slade being angry with Felicity and not interacting with her, is it possible that Malcolm and Thea go to see him (why, I don't know), Oliver tracks them there, and Slade manipulated the situation to get Oliver away from the city so he (Slade) could dispatch someone to take her? A long shot, I know, but I'm really puzzled by this one.

He didn't want to dance with her - he asked her if she wanted to so he could reveal that he invited Barry. But I agree about the suspenders, THIS IS A TRAVESTY

It just seems like such a dumb time to take a stand like that, because they've been up against ONE GUY since he left. And from the looks of it Oliver had to swing in to help out with that one. They didn't even get a single victory on their own. It definitely isn't Oliver's mission anymore, I get that. I don't even disagree with the sentiment necessarily, it's just...they didn't have Oliver gone long enough for something like that at this particular time.

CAN YOU LIVE WITH IT, OLIVER? CAN YOU BEAR HOW CAPABLE WE ARE WITHOUT YOU even though we got our asses kicked and we still haven't beaten THE ONE CRIMINAL WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH SINCE YOUR DEPARTURE but whatever.

I didn't hate it either, I actually expected it. It was the relationship that came after it that was a bit baffling to me (but I also didn't hate that).

So, new promo. How long has Oliver been gone? Jesus. I know the team decided to carry on without him but now it's like, "can you handle what it's become?" What it became was the Starling City Comedy Hour watching them trying to fight crime without him. Digg running comms in hostage situations instead of being in the field, Felicity helping Laurel fool a father about his daughter being dead, Laurel doing...well, whatever in the hell. Roy making the most sense out of all of them. Come on. I hope those voiceovers are way, way out of context.

I'm interested in it too, because I can't really think of much that would enrage me. I wouldn't be upset if they talked about feelings and either one of them pushed the other away. A Ray lunge wouldn't enrage me, necessarily. I think the only thing that would truly upset me is Felicity being flat-out mean to him with whatever she says, being heartless and cruel. Or Oliver to her (although I can't see that happening at all, unless he's trying to push her all the way away). Other than that...meh?

I think IF there's a lunge, its distastefulness level of it will be determined by what exactly transpires between Oliver and Felicity. I don't expect her to want to jump in his arms and pursue something the moment he's back, and I don't think she should wait around for him to get his shit together. I think it just depends on why they have words and why she's angry and why she does what she does. I don't necessarily hate the idea of Felicity and Ray - I've liked him the past two eps generally speaking, apart from the fact that the mission he started to honor his dead fiancee (and was still about her a week ago) is now about Felicity. It just went from nothing to a kiss back to nothing to I WANT TO KEEP YOU SAFE. It drives me freaking crazy that they just will not give ANYTHING on this show its due.

Wasn't the spoiler that Sin was supposed to have information vital to the investigation of who killed Sara or some mess like that? I guess that was just to mislead us?

I think the "happy Olicity kiss" referred to the version of the hallway scene from The Calm that was released in the Canadian trailer for season 3. Felicity was smiling and she went up on her tiptoes to kiss him while grabbing onto his forearms - it was a completely different angle, and they did look happy.

And you know he's GOT to be a penicillin connoisseur.

I replied to that tweet - but it wasn't about Laurel becoming BC, I asked him if he didn't see those people in his timeline because it was filled with people upset about Laurel I was nice about it though.

So, after reading that MG said we'd be madder than we were after "the lunge," I think we're going to have Felicity tell Oliver that she doesn't love him, doesn't want him to love her, and then she's going to go off and have sex with Ray.

I was thinking that if she is Lazarus Pitted and for real in Canaries that she'd somehow say goodbye to Quentin and let him know that she couldn't come back this time and wouldn't be able to keep in touch or something along those lines. Thus absolving Laurel of the guilt and making it seem like she did the right thing stringing him along because look! She came back! Not sure what that would mean for Dinah thinking she's dead, but they act like Dinah doesn't exist half the time anyway, so there's that. Or maybe she'd get killed in front of Quentin so everyone could pretend the first time never happened.

Probably. I couldn't figure out if the heart thing was mentioned last night to remind us of the idiotic reason for not telling him or because it's still gonna be a thing and he'll die from it when she tells him. But you know, if he dies after she tells him the truth? I'd blame her stupid ass for going to see him and pretending to be her instead of just telling him in the first place.

So how does this Quentin thing play out? Is Laurel going to keep going to him with that voice modulator? Because she's going to keep dressing up like Sara; he's going to keep seeing her/hearing that she's around. How long does she think she can get away with this? How long will she get away with it? Is Sin gonna get brought into the station next ep and hear something about the Canary and say, "nah, that ain't her." Will that ping Quentin's radar and will he demand to see her? Is that when Laurel calls Nyssa for advice? There's a reason she goes to Nyssa for help. Is the solution going to be Lazarus Pitting her? Is Sara actually in Canaries, not just as a hallucination? Surely they wouldn't resurrect her and then, what? Have her die again? Have her go crazy and have to go off to some LoA reprogramming camp? Is it going to be as simple as Nyssa telling Laurel to tell Quentin the damn truth? That can't be it.

I hope my belief that SARA LIIIIIIIIVES makes that ridiculous list.

That's gotta be it, doesn't it? Unless Ray gets in on the Arrow secret sooner than later.

Remember when there was talk on the board about Laurel dressing up to fool Lance and how we didn't think they'd be so stupid to have her do that? Could we ever have fathomed that not only would she let Quentin see her to fool him, but that she'd also talk to him using Sara's voice? What sweet summer children we were. Ah, the good 'ol days.