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I'm not sure if he knows or not. I can't remember if Ray mentioned traveling through time to stop Vandal Savage when he and Oliver chatted on LoT, or if he just mentioned teaming up with people for superhero hijinks through time.

I always thought Quentin was going to get it because of his involvement with DD, but if the "him" is Merlyn or someone else, and the dead person is Quentin, then I'm really curious about the circumstances of the death.

Yeah, if it's Lance, Laurel not being around makes no sense. Unless she pulled an Oliver and didn't show up, or is off on her own being the justice whoever can't run from.

Well, I for sure can't wait for more emotionally compromised Laurel, hell-bent on revenge! I Still think it's Quentin too, which...yawn. Surprise me, show (but don't surprise me with Diggle, pls)!

The "him" isn't Zoom, because Barry and Oliver talk about Zoom at the grave site - Barry was late because he was dealing with him over in Central City.

Stick to cooking eggs in your crock pot, Laura Hoffman!!!111!

Could be! If this does happen, BM/the kid sticking around will make even less sense.

I don't know what their plan is, but I'm really curious about how this storyline ends up, since in order to provide (flimsy) reasoning for the lie, they've written it so that the only believable outcome is for them to disappear from Oliver's life. I'm prepared for them to stick around though. I wonder what happens to make Oliver "begin" to feel guilty? I certainly hope it's not some off-handed comment from Felicity about their first child or something followed by a sad faced close up, LOL.

I forgot about the "begins" part of the synopsis, haha. Disregard my previous comment, then!

How would we know whether he remembers now or not though? No one on the show knows, so he'd either have to call Barry for a chat about feels, or call the BM for a chat about feels. He won't have anyone to talk to about it until he spills to whoever it is that isn't Felicity (Diggle, I guess, if DR's interviews are anything to go by) like the moron he is.

Yes, the whole reason they had BM make that ridiculous-ass request was so that it would wind up breaking up Oliver and Felicity. Because this is obviously a storyline they had planned for Oliver and Laurel, and there it would've made sense for him to keep the kid a secret willingly, since he was conceived while Oliver and Laurel were still together. They decided to stick with it here, I guess, because they are hacks.

Right, but the whole reason the mother has for wanting to keep the kid away from Oliver is because she's worried he's going to get hurt by being in Oliver's shitty life. If he gets kidnapped because of who his father is, why on earth would she let Oliver spend time with William, and why on earth would Oliver risk him? Seems like a setup for the shittiest parents of the year award if BM and the kid stick around.

Not sure if it's at the loft, but there is a party.

If so, they'd have to be at the end of 4x14 as a cliffie?

I would actually love it if she showed up at the debate since her whole dumbass spiel was about wanting to make sure Oliver was never publicly connected to William and she'd run to him for...some reason, I don't know why, since she doesn't know he's the Green Arrow. Unless Darhk tells her or something. This is the ep with the debate - 4x14. 4x15's synopsis (the ep where it seems like Oliver's son is kidnapped) won't be out until next week.

I hope the Eyeball of Doom shot comes right after Ruve's like, "We know you have a kid lol" and the hamster living in Oliver's head starts running really fast and he realizes that Damien Darhk knows he has a kid. BUT TOO LATE!!! HE GONE.

Yeah, if the wedding is "fast approaching" it theoretically could have supposed to have happened 4x16, so they'd have the venue. Any multitude of f-ed up stuff could happen in there that doesn't result in actual matrimony, haha.

BamBam isn't directing the "wedding" ep - he directed the one we're talking about now, 4x14.

Nope.

I can't imagine what other kind of not good Olicity scene could be in 4x15 if it isn't the breakup.

Since people are fleeing Star(ling) City left and right, they have their pick of venues/caterers/pretty much everything. No need to plan!!! Also, I thought Oliver was going to have an advocate after the truth came out, but how are we going to know he feels bad about not telling someone if he has no one to say that to? Is he going to tell someone (Diggle) before Felicity? Is he gonna have a chat with Barry? Call up BM and ask her pretty please to let him spill?

Well, Code of Silence sounds like a hot mess full of mangst. Quentin as the new Oliver. No thanks! And when did they start planning a wedding?

I didn't see anything at all like that, unless they deleted it. Maybe someone took offense to this (even though I have no earthly idea why they would): https://twitter.com/CW_Arrow/status/692514680850530304

Yes, please, after all this dude has gone through, I'm glad to see he's going to lose a limb. Hopefully the non-Legends fix that timeline.

No, he directed the scene in the limo.